Patriots being investigated after Colts game (5 Viewers)

[devouredbychaos]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth. Sounds to me like the Ravens and Colts might've been a little salty and wanted to throw the Pats under the bus..

 

[OldMilwaukee]

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[Dr. Octopus]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth. Sounds to me like the Ravens and Colts might've been a little salty and wanted to throw the Pats under the bus..

Poor Patriots. Why does the league constantly punish them for things every team does? They're so oblivious.

 

[Freelove]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

 

[ROCKET]

And Rocket needs to realize what is being reported in the media is not what the league has found out. There could be plenty of evidence.

I never said there wasn't. If they have evidence and Kraft.BB knew they might well lose then I could see them accepting a punishment in exchange for the evidence and scandal to go away. If they have evidence the Pats are screwed, I already acknowledged that.

Now IF the only evidence they have is 12 balls were 2 psi lower at halftime than they were when being tested prior to the game that doesn't prove anything, in and of itself. Those saying that is all the evidence Goodell needs are fools. It will take more than that. Why would Kraft and BB agree to sanctions when they would win the appeal easily for lack of evidence? Either there is more evidence and the Pats are in a bad spot or there isn't and the league is in a bad spot.

 

[12punch]

that's a pretty slick set up ---- isn't pagano harbaugh's boy?

he makes sure to fill his balls up and then files this complaint lol

 

[thatguy]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Not defending the Pats by any means but as has been said, if the Colts did in fact make the complaint before the game as is now being reported, then of course they'd make sure every one of their balls was inflated to the required PSI. It says nothing of their SOP.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Because they knew the NFL planned on testing the game balls, so they inflated them to the correct limit.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Seems silly to be focusing on this issue while the Pro Bowl draft is going on.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Not defending the Pats by any means but as has been said, if they did on fact make the complaint before the game as is now being reported, then of course they'd make sure every one of their balls was inflated to the required PSI. It says nothing of their SOP.

If Luck likes his balls deflated and Indy regularly does that, it'd be stupid to do this just to catch the Pats in a trap. Intentionally putting your QB at a disadvantage doesn't seem like the soundest strategy.

 

[the moops]

Surprised the NFL just didn't squash this whole thing and just tell the Pats to knock it off.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I bet the colts players were letting the air out of the pats balls when ever they got a chance ...like when it was intercepted ...or there ball boy snuck over to the pats bench and let the air out when none of the thousands of fans ...coaches ....cheerleaders weren't looking...and when all the cameras were focused elsewhere ...hey its as believable as any of the other scenarios out there

 

[The General]

It's prolly been mentioned but I bet Dez holds on to a deflated ball.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Not defending the Pats by any means but as has been said, if they did on fact make the complaint before the game as is now being reported, then of course they'd make sure every one of their balls was inflated to the required PSI. It says nothing of their SOP.

If Luck likes his balls deflated and Indy regularly does that, it'd be stupid to do this just to catch the Pats in a trap. Intentionally putting your QB at a disadvantage doesn't seem like the soundest strategy.

Did you see how bad Luck played?

 

[ROCKET]

I think it was Tom Cruise descending from the ceiling MI style to deflate the balls. Hired by BB of course.

Goodell: Hey Robert, how bout we trade off this situation for you dropping the tampering chages vs my buddy Woody?

Kraft: Well Rog I guess you got me by the short hairs on this one. Hey did you check out my GF?

Goodell: Yup, prime piece of a$$ there Bob.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Not defending the Pats by any means but as has been said, if they did on fact make the complaint before the game as is now being reported, then of course they'd make sure every one of their balls was inflated to the required PSI. It says nothing of their SOP.

If Luck likes his balls deflated and Indy regularly does that, it'd be stupid to do this just to catch the Pats in a trap. Intentionally putting your QB at a disadvantage doesn't seem like the soundest strategy.

Did you see how bad Luck played?

Ah, so it wasn't the Patriots defense?

 

[thatguy]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Not defending the Pats by any means but as has been said, if they did on fact make the complaint before the game as is now being reported, then of course they'd make sure every one of their balls was inflated to the required PSI. It says nothing of their SOP.

If Luck likes his balls deflated and Indy regularly does that, it'd be stupid to do this just to catch the Pats in a trap. Intentionally putting your QB at a disadvantage doesn't seem like the soundest strategy.

I agree with this, too, and considered it... I have no idea what the truth is. All I'm saying is the Colts would have been foolish to alert the NFL of this before the game only to do the same thing they accused the Pats of doing, regardless of their usual/preferred practice.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I think it was Tom Cruise descending from the ceiling MI style to deflate the balls. Hired by BB of course.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time Cruise has sucked balls

 

[devouredbychaos]

John Harbaugh had plenty of issues with the New England Patriots in the AFC divisional round. But deflated footballs wasnt one of them. In the midst of all the hot air surrounding DeflateGate, the Baltimore Ravens head coach went on the record Wednesday to say he had no problem with the footballs used during his teams 35-31 loss to the Patriots. We did not notice anything, Harbaugh said, via ESPN. We never had a ball that they used or anything like that on offense, so we dont know anything about that in our game. We didnt have a chance to handle any of their offensive footballs. Each team uses its own footballs while on offense, but the two teams share the footballs used in the kicking game. A report surfaced late Tuesday night that some Ravens players believed the balls used by kickers and punters were slightly under-inflated. Harbaugh addressed that report Wednesday and believe it or not had a reasonable explanation for his players reported comments.

As far as the kicking balls, it was 20 degrees out, so the balls were softer, Harbaugh said. Our guys told us during the game, and I just chalked that up to the fact that it was cold and that both teams were kicking the same kicking balls, so I didnt think really anything of it during the game. Other than that, its not something weve really given any thought to at all. The weather was cold, so the balls were slightly less inflated. Makes sense.

 

[thatguy]

I think it was Tom Cruise descending from the ceiling MI style to deflate the balls. Hired by BB of course.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time Cruise has sucked balls

I don't know that he sucked the balls, but he certainly did inappropriate things with them in order to relieve pressure. That too would not be a first.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I think it was Tom Cruise descending from the ceiling MI style to deflate the balls. Hired by BB of course.

Certainly wouldn't be the first time Cruise has sucked balls

:golfclap:

 

[HobbesAB]

Nice video from ESPN Sports Science on playing with a deflated football. It helps the defense more than people think. Perhaps the NFL should expand the psi range in the rule?

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12207314

 

[GrandpaRox]

I think it's absurd to say that the NFL should "finally" take a hard line. The SpyGate penalties were the most severe in NFL history.

..and yet, they continue to cheat.

.and yet they continue to rack up championships and Super Bowl appearances.

The rest of the NFL must be stupid as ####.

 

[Run It Up]

I think it's absurd to say that the NFL should "finally" take a hard line. The SpyGate penalties were the most severe in NFL history.

..and yet, they continue to cheat.

.and yet they continue to rack up championships and Super Bowl appearances.

The rest of the NFL must be stupid as ####.

But the jokes on the Pats this time, after an entire season of conspiring against the evil league of evil the rest of the AFC has finally trapped the Pats in another meaningless scandal.

 

[bucsbaby]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

 

[Run It Up]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

But you don't understand, its the culture of doing pointless ####! Think of the children tainted by this scandal!

 

[moleculo]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

 

[bostonfred]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

thankfully the Broncos don't have to play the what if game, so you have more time to calculate the air pressure deflation rate of an oblong spheroid.

 

[johnnycakes]

Patriots have a long history of cheating dating back to at least 1982 when they brought out a snow plow in a game against Miami.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

Now if your wife comes up two condoms short at the end of the month, then deflated balls is really worth talking about.

 

[moleculo]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

thankfully the Broncos don't have to play the what if game, so you have more time to calculate the air pressure deflation rate of an oblong spheroid.

Believe me, after seeing how things went down Sunday, I was very happy for the Broncos to not be playing.

 

[TheAristocrat]

http://deadspin.com/the-patriots-ballghazi-scandal-cannot-be-overblown-enou-1680853191

 

[Buffaloes]

Ballghazi is such a better term than the tired and lazy ### deflategate thing btw

 

[Mr Two Cents]

It is like what Hillary said "at this point what difference does it make"

 

[Tool]

It's prolly been mentioned but I bet Dez holds on to a deflated ball.

sure, until it hit the ground.

 

[TheAristocrat]

Ballghazi is such a better term than the tired and lazy ### deflategate thing btw

Me too. I'm sick of all -gates. 40 years later and "journalism" (such as it is) hasn't been able to progress any in the creativity department when it comes to naming a scandal. They do use some excellent creative writing techniques in their stories though.

 

[bucsbaby]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

 

[moleculo]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

if they were doing it, do you really think that it was a one time thing?

 

[flapgreen]

I get a giggle out of seeing the Pats embarrassed.

 

[flapgreen]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

if they were doing it, do you really think that it was a one time thing?

Apparently so

 

[flapgreen]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

eh?

 

[devouredbychaos]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

if they were doing it, do you really think that it was a one time thing?

If they were doing it, do you really think they're the only team that was doing it? Doubtful.

 

[JohnnyU]

There's cheating and there's cheating. It's not like the Pats are all roided up. They blew Indy out. It's not like they got a slight edge to beat a superior team. I'm not condoning the behaviour, but it's also not like they paid off the refs. They deserve to be consequenced for violating the rules, but the reactions are also way overblown imo. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the haters are holding onto Hernandez for $1 in a dynasty.

what if they were doing the exact same thing the previous week, where they won by 4? A game where a single incompletion could have derailed a scoring drive?

The optics around that would obviously be a lot worse, but it's also not what's on the table currently being debated. Like I said, I'm not condoning it, but they blew Indy out and saying they cheated their way to the Superbowl is hyperbole at its finest.

Why don't u understand that beating Indy by a thousand pts doesnt excuse cheating. It's all about intent. Their arrogance and paranoid belief they need to cheat is the issue, not whether it actually makes a difference in the game.

 

[Run It Up]

If they were doing it, do you really think this was all they were doing? In twenty years, when they find the death camps - then they will know.

 

[HughHoney]

Patriots parody video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3D2gsPUR0

 

[Lutherman2112]

Here's a terrible idea.

For the first offensive play for the Patriots, the Seahawks field two scrub defensive players; one jumps offsides and tackles Brady at the knee causing injury while the other scrub removes his helmet and whacks Coach Belichick upside the head with said helmet. Brady can't play and Belichick can't coach...both Seattle scrubs are thrown from the game and penalty yardage assessed.

Is that against the rules? Is the planning for the scheme worse than the actuating of the scheme?

[sidebar: I'm drunk.]

 

[CapnJB]

Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before DQwell Jackson interception

Its been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts. Its unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore. Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, its no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits. If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/report-nfl-planned-to-inspect-patriots-football-before-dqwell-jackson-interception/#comments

If you don't think this is common practice among ALL NFL teams, then you're oblivious to the truth.

Except the Colts, all 12 of whose footballs were inflated to spec upon being tested?

Because they knew the NFL planned on testing the game balls, so they inflated them to the correct limit.

So what are the odds that Hernandez gets to play in the Superbowl?? He's got to... right?

 

[12punch]

Why Not?

Worked For Greg kite

 

[DropKick]

Patriots have a long history of cheating dating back to at least 1982 when they brought out a snow plow in a game against Miami.

I remember the game - they beat us 3-0 (or very few points). It was a guy from prison driving the plow as I recall - work release or something like that.

 

[Green and Gold]

Here's a terrible idea.

For the first offensive play for the Patriots, the Seahawks field two scrub defensive players; one jumps offsides and tackles Brady at the knee causing injury while the other scrub removes his helmet and whacks Coach Belichick upside the head with said helmet. Brady can't play and Belichick can't coach...both Seattle scrubs are thrown from the game and penalty yardage assessed.

Is that against the rules? Is the planning for the scheme worse than the actuating of the scheme?

[sidebar: I'm drunk.]

Might be hard to get someone to nail Belichick, as that has legal ramifications. Pretty sure the Saints have shown that you can get away with hurting players on the field of play, though, just as long as you arent dumb and talk about it.