Patriots dominate overrated Cowboys (1 Viewer)

[SeniorVBDStudent]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

Hello troll.

 

[Bossman]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

I'm amused that some people think that a "videotape" of defensive signals had anything to do with the Patriots success.It's obvious they are an incredibly talented and well coached team... and always have been.People that bring it up now just seem frustrated by NE's success.... or their own teams "lack their of".

 

[porkins]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

I'm amused that some people think that a "videotape" of defensive signals had anything to do with the Patriots success.It's obvious they are an incredibly talented and well coached team... and always have been.People that bring it up now just seem frustrated by NE's success.... or their own teams "lack their of".

 

[Phulish]

While on the other hand Bill Belichick gave the rest of the NFL a blueprint on how to rip apart the now suspect Dallas defense.

Blueprint:Take one of the Greatest QB's ever and attach an experienced and solid OL. Bolt a HOF WR and 2 other role players and a very good TE.Yea that "Blueprint" should translate nicely to all the other NFC teams.....Congrats to NE on a nice victory, hope to get another shot at you in January.Anyone see Crayton say that next week Dallas will be the Purple People Eaters? Priceless...

 

[culdeus]

Overrated? I wasn't aware there was an AP poll in the NFL.

 

[simmonjm]

Once again, just goes to show how much better the AFC is as a whole then the NFC.

The numbers dont support your argument so far the AFC is 14-12 against the NFC. But I will agree that 4 out of the 5 top teams are in the AFC.(Steelers, Chargers, Pats, Colts, Cowboys)

 

[adamjw2]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

I'm amused that some people think that a "videotape" of defensive signals had anything to do with the Patriots success.It's obvious they are an incredibly talented and well coached team... and always have been.People that bring it up now just seem frustrated by NE's success.... or their own teams "lack their of".

For me, it's the fact that some members of the Patriots organization felt it was more important to win at all costs than the integrity of the game. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. The fact that Mangini knew about it well enough to be able to rat them out shows that a lot of people knew it was going on and knew that it was wrong and chose to look the other way. I LOVE the NFL, and when cheating starts getting brushed to the side, because it is a "small or insignificant" way of cheating, I take offense to it. I can't imagine that there is any worse feeling than rooting for a team all the way to a Super Bowl championship only to later find that there will always be questions about the validity of those wins. I'm not saying this is how it is with NE now, just any team in general. With all that said, the NFL imposed some stiff penalties onto the Pats, and they've paid their dues, imo, so hopefully we can all move past this. I just have a real problem with anyone who tries to downplay cheating, no matter how small.

 

[simmonjm]

Dallas played the Pats tough and could not cover all the receiving options. Anthony Henry not being able to play really hurt. Dallas was not able to match up Newman to the slot because it would have left their 4th corner Nate Jones on a #1 or #2 WR which is a horrible matchup but when Henry returns I could see an improvement on the 3rd down defense. Hats off to Pats but I think this game proved that the Pats are not invincible and their defense is somewhat suspect, i.e. run defense with old LB'ers and Rodney Harrison having trouble in pass coverage.

 

[pizzatyme]

much like the 04/05 AFC title game, when the Steelers made the same mistake, this one was basically over when the Cowboys settled for a FG early in the 4th. If Wade had been a little more aggressive, the Cowboys had a chance in a heavyweight slugfest, instead the Patriots won going away because the Cowboys didnt take the necessary risk to have a chance to win.

This is one of the best posts I've ever read on this MB IMO. I was thinking the exact same thing when they kicked the FG.

 

[butcher boy]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

I'm amused that some people think that a "videotape" of defensive signals had anything to do with the Patriots success.It's obvious they are an incredibly talented and well coached team... and always have been.People that bring it up now just seem frustrated by NE's success.... or their own teams "lack their of".

No, it's the amount of hypocrisy in the fans/media that bugs me. When guys like McGuire and Bonds get accused of cheating, it's ALL you ever hear about them, and these guys didn't even get caught. New England actually gets caught blatantly cheating and by week 6 it's all forgotten and they're the "greatest team ever" now. There's no doubt in my mind that NE is a great team with great players, but McGuire and Bonds were great too and they will never get to escape the stigma of the *. New England has received a free pass. Perhaps Bonds and McGuire and other alleged cheaters of years past were cursed by playing on the teams they did. Maybe if they were playing for Boston or the Yankees or another media darling team, then their alleged cheating would have been overlooked as well.

 

[Workhorse]

I've addressed the spygate thing in countless threads here but do you ever wonder WHY the Patriots received a "free pass" in the followup on this? John Czarnecki (a 30+ year NFL columnist/reporter with a HOF vote) pretty much nailed it:

I don't know Bill Belichick, but I respect him a lot despite all this Spygate garbage. A lot of teams steal signs and videotape their opponents when it makes sense. Belichick will tell you that his security team caught a Jets employee filming them last season in Gillette Stadium and he didn't go running to the commissioner's office. The word is that when the NFL picked up the Patriots' so-called Spygate files, the Patriots also supplied them with information about other NFL teams and what they might have been involved in.

It was in the best interest of the ENTIRE league for this thing to go away quietly.

 

[butcher boy]

I've addressed the spygate thing in countless threads here but do you ever wonder WHY the Patriots received a "free pass" in the followup on this? John Czarnecki (a 30+ year NFL columnist/reporter with a HOF vote) pretty much nailed it:

I don't know Bill Belichick, but I respect him a lot despite all this Spygate garbage. A lot of teams steal signs and videotape their opponents when it makes sense. Belichick will tell you that his security team caught a Jets employee filming them last season in Gillette Stadium and he didn't go running to the commissioner's office. The word is that when the NFL picked up the Patriots' so-called Spygate files, the Patriots also supplied them with information about other NFL teams and what they might have been involved in.

It was in the best interest of the ENTIRE league for this thing to go away quietly.

So its in the best interest of everyone to just let everyone continue cheating? That seems like a very dangerous attitude to take.How do you think it would go over with fans and the media in MLB if they took the same attitude about steroids? It's widely rumored that the steroids problem was much more widespread than anyone ever thought, so why isnt everyone wanting to sweep this under the rug like they are with the NFL thing for the "best interest" of the league?

No, I think the fact that it was the Patriots that got caught has a lot to do with wanting to sweep it under the rug, not for the sake of the game, for the sake of ratings. If Arizona or Minnesota got caught filming, it would be much bigger.

 

[pizzatyme]

Can we please do the following:

Stop the "Spygate" talk

Stop the Manning vs. Brady threads

Stop the Undefeated Pats talk

The facts are that the Pats have been a tremendous dynasty of late. They won (sometimes ugly) 3 Superbowls because they played better that day.

Manning and Brady are 2 of the best ever. Regardless of whether or not Brady gets the TD record this year, he is every bit as good as Manning for his own reasons.

The Patriots may go undefeated. If so, I will be here applauding their accomplishment as a Colts fan.

The Patriots may win another Superbowl this year. If so, I will salute them.

But, for the love of all things good, people. Please eat some humble pie or cool your hatred when it comes to the New England Patriots.

TIA

 

[Workhorse]

I've addressed the spygate thing in countless threads here but do you ever wonder WHY the Patriots received a "free pass" in the followup on this? John Czarnecki (a 30+ year NFL columnist/reporter with a HOF vote) pretty much nailed it:

I don't know Bill Belichick, but I respect him a lot despite all this Spygate garbage. A lot of teams steal signs and videotape their opponents when it makes sense. Belichick will tell you that his security team caught a Jets employee filming them last season in Gillette Stadium and he didn't go running to the commissioner's office. The word is that when the NFL picked up the Patriots' so-called Spygate files, the Patriots also supplied them with information about other NFL teams and what they might have been involved in.

It was in the best interest of the ENTIRE league for this thing to go away quietly.

So its in the best interest of everyone to just let everyone continue cheating? That seems like a very dangerous attitude to take.How do you think it would go over with fans and the media in MLB if they took the same attitude about steroids? It's widely rumored that the steroids problem was much more widespread than anyone ever thought, so why isnt everyone wanting to sweep this under the rug like they are with the NFL thing for the "best interest" of the league?

No, I think the fact that it was the Patriots that got caught has a lot to do with wanting to sweep it under the rug, not for the sake of the game, for the sake of ratings. If Arizona or Minnesota got caught filming, it would be much bigger.

MLB would have swept steroids under the rug if Congress hadn't gotten involved. Believe it.

 

[joelib77]

Is this best the NFC has to offer?

The Patriots humbled the Cowboys today. It looked like the varsity team (Pat's) was playing in an exhibition game against the junior varsity team (Dallas)

The Cowboys simply could not stop the Patriots high powered offense. If it wasn't for Tom Brady fumbling inside his own 20 yard line + giving Dallas an easy score the Pat's would have beat the Cowboys by 30 points.

Keep in mind the Patriots are doing all of this without their best defensive player (Richard Seymour)

With the exception of the Colts I don't think there is a team in the NFL that can stop what seems to be a team for the ages.

Actually if you watched the game, it looked like a great team against a good team. The Patriots seemed to be in control and were comfortable. They played from behind in the second half which was new for them. But their talent came through when needed. But thanks for trying.

J

Thanks for trying? Come on Joe, this was a beat down. They "played from behind" for all of 2 minutes! Look at the stat line. It was largely a one-sided affair:Total offense

Patriots

78 plays

448 yards

Cowboys

46 plays

283 yards

Third-down efficiency

Patriots

11-17

Cowboys

4-11

Total time of possession

Patriots 38:15

Cowboys 21:45

Time of possession by quarter

1st 2nd 3rd 4th

Patriots 8:49 9:43 8:00 11:43

Cowboys 6:11 5:17 7:00 3:17

 

[Squinting Cyclops]

After all this bickering, all I can say is GO COLTS!

 

[kellumsboys]

I'm not sure I see how Dallas is overrated. They are thought of as the 3rd best team in the NFL and gave the Pats the best challenge they've seen so far. I'm not sure any other team other then Indy would have done better.

DALLASthey are who I thought they were.the best team in the NFC

 

[Borat]

Brady had a career game...

Stats can be deceiving. This game doesn't even make Brady's top 10. He was off on an awful lot of passes on Sunday. That wasn't even Brady's best game this year.

 

[Borat]

Overrated? I wasn't aware there was an AP poll in the NFL.

I wasn't aware that there had to be an AP poll for fans and media to have opinions of teams.

 

[Obie Wan]

How long until Goodell investigates this team further? They've proven that they dont think twice about cheating when it comes down to it. People always wonder about guys like Bonds (who has never been caught) and how he would be doing if he wasn't juicing or whether he's still juicing or whatever, but with the Patriots(who DID get caught), it's like it's all been forgotten and pushed aside so that we can watch this "amazing team". Media darlings, indeed.

I'm amused that some people think that a "videotape" of defensive signals had anything to do with the Patriots success.It's obvious they are an incredibly talented and well coached team... and always have been.People that bring it up now just seem frustrated by NE's success.... or their own teams "lack their of".

You are correct.The Pats got much better results from the 3 extra frequencies they were using to steal the live offensive play calls.Pats will cheat at will this year since teh league has closed the case because they don;t want to expose teh cheating. They can't afford to impune the Pats Super Bowl wins.

 

[Tyrion]

Brady had a career game...

Stats can be deceiving. This game doesn't even make Brady's top 10. He was off on an awful lot of passes on Sunday. That wasn't even Brady's best game this year.

Yeah stats are deceiving. The most deceiving stat of all was the score. It was a much closer game than the stats seem to indicate and the game could have gone either way.

That being said, the patriots scoring the most points they have scored in 23 years, Brady throwing for his most TDs and the 2nd most yards ever in a game was very impressive.

Good game by the Pats and, despite all of the mistakes, not a bad game by the Cowboys.

 

[netnalp]

If NE and Dal make it to the Super Bowl. The "America's Team" moniker should be on the line.

 

[monkeysee]

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[twitch]

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if youre gonna leave your mark, cmon, make a statement already. *

 

[Rhino]

Can we please do the following:Stop the "Spygate" talkStop the Manning vs. Brady threadsStop the Undefeated Pats talkThe facts are that the Pats have been a tremendous dynasty of late. They won (sometimes ugly) 3 Superbowls because they played better that day.Manning and Brady are 2 of the best ever. Regardless of whether or not Brady gets the TD record this year, he is every bit as good as Manning for his own reasons.The Patriots may go undefeated. If so, I will be here applauding their accomplishment as a Colts fan.The Patriots may win another Superbowl this year. If so, I will salute them.But, for the love of all things good, people. Please eat some humble pie or cool your hatred when it comes to the New England Patriots.TIA

That's asking an aweful lot of the Shark Pool!

 

[monkeysee]

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if youre gonna leave your mark, cmon, make a statement already. *

My bad. I love these Pats fans spanking each others little butts in excitement. So proud of their coach that lacks integrity.

Win all you want. You will always be labled cheaters and deservedly so.

:happydance:

 

[Clifton]

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if youre gonna leave your mark, cmon, make a statement already. *

My bad. I love these Pats fans spanking each others little butts in excitement. So proud of their coach that lacks integrity.

Win all you want. You will always be labled cheaters and deservedly so.

:happydance:

Do you realize how stupid you sound? Get over it.

 

[monkeysee]

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if youre gonna leave your mark, cmon, make a statement already. *

My bad. I love these Pats fans spanking each others little butts in excitement. So proud of their coach that lacks integrity.

Win all you want. You will always be labled cheaters and deservedly so.

:happydance:

Do you realize how stupid you sound? Get over it.

Translation = The truth stings and I have nothing else to respond with.Note - There is no sound online when reading text. Now who is stupid?

lol - can you hear that?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Note - There is no sound online when reading text. Now who is stupid?

That would be you.

 

[Borat]

For what it's worth, Sports Illustrated agrees that the Pats dominated the 'Boys:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/