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[Burning Sensation]

if im not mistaken, for next year the patriots gained the saints 1st and 2nd rounders and the raiders 2nd rounder. seems detractors are underrating that.

Always getting next year's picks isn't going to help your team if you're taking questionable RBs back to back and a QB that's useless sitting behind a HOFer not ready to retire. Now I guess they could turn him for another pick later since that's what they do best.

there would be no criticism of the patriots if they were sitting on solder, dowling and vereen right now. or even solder, vereen and mallet. ppl are punishing them for having extra picks right now. the patriots just got 5 players in the first 3 rounds and they are sitting on 3 extra picks in next years first 2 rounds. i dont see how this isnt a huge win, even if you disagree with a few of the specific choices.

People keep saying they need to make instead of trade picks, but they ARE making picks...more picks than anyone else, and usually more in the first 4 rounds, year in, year out, than anyone else. It's BRILLIANT.

More isn't always better. I thought this was the year they should have moved up to take a stud like AJ Green or Julio Jones. Instead they're the same Patriots.

Is that bad?

I don't think they've drafted all that well recently before 2010.

Off the top of my head, Mayo, Chung, Gronk, Hernandez and Mccourty seem like some good picks over the last few years. Im a Bills fan, so my standards are low, but the Patriots seem to be doing a pretty good job to me.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

if im not mistaken, for next year the patriots gained the saints 1st and 2nd rounders and the raiders 2nd rounder. seems detractors are underrating that.

Always getting next year's picks isn't going to help your team if you're taking questionable RBs back to back and a QB that's useless sitting behind a HOFer not ready to retire. Now I guess they could turn him for another pick later since that's what they do best.

there would be no criticism of the patriots if they were sitting on solder, dowling and vereen right now. or even solder, vereen and mallet. ppl are punishing them for having extra picks right now. the patriots just got 5 players in the first 3 rounds and they are sitting on 3 extra picks in next years first 2 rounds. i dont see how this isnt a huge win, even if you disagree with a few of the specific choices.

People keep saying they need to make instead of trade picks, but they ARE making picks...more picks than anyone else, and usually more in the first 4 rounds, year in, year out, than anyone else. It's BRILLIANT.

More isn't always better. I thought this was the year they should have moved up to take a stud like AJ Green or Julio Jones. Instead they're the same Patriots.

Is that bad?

I don't think they've drafted all that well recently before 2010.

Off the top of my head, Mayo, Chung, Gronk, Hernandez and Mccourty seem like some good picks over the last few years. Im a Bills fan, so my standards are low, but the Patriots seem to be doing a pretty good job to me.

You can remove some of those because I said "recently before 2010". Better than the Colts drafts for sure, except for this year. Polian has sucked in recent years, but he nailed it this year.

 

[renesauz]

if im not mistaken, for next year the patriots gained the saints 1st and 2nd rounders and the raiders 2nd rounder. seems detractors are underrating that.

Always getting next year's picks isn't going to help your team if you're taking questionable RBs back to back and a QB that's useless sitting behind a HOFer not ready to retire. Now I guess they could turn him for another pick later since that's what they do best.

there would be no criticism of the patriots if they were sitting on solder, dowling and vereen right now. or even solder, vereen and mallet. ppl are punishing them for having extra picks right now. the patriots just got 5 players in the first 3 rounds and they are sitting on 3 extra picks in next years first 2 rounds. i dont see how this isnt a huge win, even if you disagree with a few of the specific choices.

People keep saying they need to make instead of trade picks, but they ARE making picks...more picks than anyone else, and usually more in the first 4 rounds, year in, year out, than anyone else. It's BRILLIANT.

More isn't always better. I thought this was the year they should have moved up to take a stud like AJ Green or Julio Jones. Instead they're the same Patriots.

But it's not JUST more...it's more in relatively high rounds where value is often found, more 2nds, 3rds and 4ths. They took a couple bullets years ago, and have made out VERY well on the theory everyone ELSE has that a pick this year is worth a round higher than next years. They are forever accepting VALUE by saying sure, you can have our 3 for your 2 next year...then taking that 2 and saying sure..you can have our 2 for your 1 next year....then they take that 1, move back for a 2,3, AND 5...use 2 of those picks, rinse and repeat. After investing a couple mid round picks years ago, they reaquire two or three picks in the 2-4th rounds EVERY year....and still have nothing more invested than those 2 or 3 picks from years ago.Sorry, but it's brilliant. If they use that extra first, than they'll have to re-invest. They are playing on FREE MONEY, and Bill is going to continue to collect the interest on his investment, and let his eventual replacement screw up and cash out. I say "GOOD FOR HIM...BRILLIANT MOVE" taking advantage of the idiotic premise that a 3 this year is worth next years two. (ESPECIALLY when the teams forever trading the 2 are bad teams!)

 

[Ron_Mexico]

if im not mistaken, for next year the patriots gained the saints 1st and 2nd rounders and the raiders 2nd rounder. seems detractors are underrating that.

Always getting next year's picks isn't going to help your team if you're taking questionable RBs back to back and a QB that's useless sitting behind a HOFer not ready to retire. Now I guess they could turn him for another pick later since that's what they do best.

there would be no criticism of the patriots if they were sitting on solder, dowling and vereen right now. or even solder, vereen and mallet. ppl are punishing them for having extra picks right now. the patriots just got 5 players in the first 3 rounds and they are sitting on 3 extra picks in next years first 2 rounds. i dont see how this isnt a huge win, even if you disagree with a few of the specific choices.

People keep saying they need to make instead of trade picks, but they ARE making picks...more picks than anyone else, and usually more in the first 4 rounds, year in, year out, than anyone else. It's BRILLIANT.

More isn't always better. I thought this was the year they should have moved up to take a stud like AJ Green or Julio Jones. Instead they're the same Patriots.

I say "GOOD FOR HIM...BRILLIANT MOVE" taking advantage of the idiotic premise that a 3 this year is worth next years two. (ESPECIALLY when the teams forever trading the 2 are bad teams!)

It was a 3 and a 4, for a 7th and a 2nd in 2012.

 

[fruity pebbles]

if im not mistaken, for next year the patriots gained the saints 1st and 2nd rounders and the raiders 2nd rounder. seems detractors are underrating that.

Always getting next year's picks isn't going to help your team if you're taking questionable RBs back to back and a QB that's useless sitting behind a HOFer not ready to retire. Now I guess they could turn him for another pick later since that's what they do best.

there would be no criticism of the patriots if they were sitting on solder, dowling and vereen right now. or even solder, vereen and mallet. ppl are punishing them for having extra picks right now. the patriots just got 5 players in the first 3 rounds and they are sitting on 3 extra picks in next years first 2 rounds. i dont see how this isnt a huge win, even if you disagree with a few of the specific choices.

People keep saying they need to make instead of trade picks, but they ARE making picks...more picks than anyone else, and usually more in the first 4 rounds, year in, year out, than anyone else. It's BRILLIANT.

More isn't always better. I thought this was the year they should have moved up to take a stud like AJ Green or Julio Jones. Instead they're the same Patriots.

Is that bad?

I don't think they've drafted all that well recently before 2010.

Off the top of my head, Mayo, Chung, Gronk, Hernandez and Mccourty seem like some good picks over the last few years. Im a Bills fan, so my standards are low, but the Patriots seem to be doing a pretty good job to me.

You can remove some of those because I said "recently before 2010". Better than the Colts drafts for sure, except for this year. Polian has sucked in recent years, but he nailed it this year.

How do you know? He nailed it cause his picks matched up well with your issue of Lindys?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

How do you know? He nailed it cause his picks matched up well with your issue of Lindys?

No, but I'm sure you have some issues yourself.

 

[GregR_2]

What's up with this pick, from the NFL trade tracker:

Eagles, Pats swap picks

Eagles receive:

» Sixth-round pick (No. 193):

Brian Rolle

Patriots receive:

» Sixth-round pick (No. 194):

Markell Carter

Edit to add: Ah, according to PFT sounds like it's sort of a joke, because the Pats have traded with the Eagles every year since BB became coach and someone made a deal out of the other day.

 

[twistd]

How few seasons are left for Brady?? I figure he's good for around 5 more so don't get Mallett pick.

I think, with all those picks, this was a value pick. You develop him, maybe trade Hoyer or, down the road you show Mallet is a player and you trade him. If they used a pick when they only had six picks, that might be a little frivolous, but they had a bunch of picks. This is an investment.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

What's up with this pick, from the NFL trade tracker:Eagles, Pats swap picksEagles receive:» Sixth-round pick (No. 193):Brian Rolle Patriots receive:» Sixth-round pick (No. 194):Markell CarterEdit to add: Ah, according to PFT sounds like it's sort of a joke, because the Pats have traded with the Eagles every year since BB became coach and someone made a deal out of the other day.

I think it's just draft shtick.

 

[Cassius]

Two RB's is a head scratcher. Other than that they took an OT, CB, RB, all positions of need, and walked out with another 1st and 2nd round next year...after only 3 rounds. Not sure what there is to not like.

What's not to like? How about using a high pick on a QB when you have a top-2 QB already. How about not drafting a pass rusher when that's your BIGGEST need?definition of 'homer'

He's been doing this for years. I remember yelling at my TV when he passed on Manny Lawson one year. Now I'm just used to it. He obviously has a certain philosophy about building defenses that has to do with emphasizing corner. Historically I know they have been low on drafting LB's because the system is very complicated and it takes rookies a while to get it. Not sure if that's still a factor.I also think this was a vote of confidence in Cunningham, who has only had one year to develop.The problem is EVERY team has "pass rusher" as a top 2-3 need, BB probably just thinks the demand is too high and it pushes lower rated players up, and he won't reach for a player to fill a need. Never really has. Mallet pick is probably my favorite pick of NE's draft.

 

[jon_mx]

What's up with this pick, from the NFL trade tracker:Eagles, Pats swap picksEagles receive:» Sixth-round pick (No. 193):Brian Rolle Patriots receive:» Sixth-round pick (No. 194):Markell CarterEdit to add: Ah, according to PFT sounds like it's sort of a joke, because the Pats have traded with the Eagles every year since BB became coach and someone made a deal out of the other day.

Might be the first time the eagles got the better end of the deal.

 

[Zeff]

lol pats fans....all the sudden they love mallet when the same dudes probably ripped him last week. Face it...your draft hasn't been good.

I think people who were "ripping" Mallet last week were ripping the idea that he would be a wise investment of a first or high-second round draft pick (and money). I didn't see any skeptics saying he was such a non-prospect that he wouldn't be worth a mid-round selection. Now, I can certainly imagine such a vehement anti-Mallet stance, and feel it was the case for Cam Newton myself (not worthy of a selection at any point in the draft). But I never heard people making that argument with respect to Mallet. Even his big detractors were like, be careful, kid's got a lot of baggage to go with that golden arm.I think Bill was careful enough. Nice selection.