Pats DE Marquise Hill Drowned in Lake (1 Viewer)

[Fear & Loathing]

Yessir, I've made some dumb mistake, I made choices just like Hill did. I almost drowned in 1995, a bit different circumstances but I was all but drowned and the only other boat on the river saved my life and that of my brother in law. I chose that day to do what I did.I was on the lake all day today, the most crowded I've ever seen a lake. We boated safely, and everyone I saw/noticed was boating safely too, but I'm sure a few dummies were on the water.What can I say ? its absolutely 100% well known knowledge to wear a life jacket when wearing a jetski, isn't it ? Not unlike wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle. Choose not to wear one ? Well, you can quickly become the poster child of "Wear a Life Jacket or Die' campaignThrough being big-headed, feeling bulletproof, alcohol, just plain being stupid or a myriad of other things, people choose to do stupid things in life, thats for certain.Yes, its sad his life is over because of a dumb choice, maybe others will live because they'll wear a life jacket remembering what happened to HIll ?

You're an #######.Save the preaching for another day.

 

[Sinrman]

RIP

 

[Penguin]

extremely sad

 

[Stealthycat]

Fear & Loathing - you know nothing about me, cast your silly internet insults at someone else and type something meaningful.

Wear a life jacket if you're on a jetski

Like that, something that might make a difference. Here's another

Wear your seat belt. Wear a helmet. Don't have unprotected sex.

Do you want more ? But too often, people feel bulletproof and don't listen, but I tell you, every now and then someone DOES listen, they think back to that NEP player who died when he was on a jet ski without a life jacket.

Things like that matter.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Fear & Loathing - you know nothing about me, cast your silly internet insults at someone else and type something meaningful.Wear a life jacket if you're on a jetskiLike that, something that might make a difference. Here's anotherWear your seat belt. Wear a helmet. Don't have unprotected sex.Do you want more ? But too often, people feel bulletproof and don't listen, but I tell you, every now and then someone DOES listen, they think back to that NEP player who died when he was on a jet ski without a life jacket. Things like that matter.

There is a time and a place, and IMO this isn't either.

 

[biggamer3]

Yessir, I've made some dumb mistake, I made choices just like Hill did. I almost drowned in 1995, a bit different circumstances but I was all but drowned and the only other boat on the river saved my life and that of my brother in law. I chose that day to do what I did.I was on the lake all day today, the most crowded I've ever seen a lake. We boated safely, and everyone I saw/noticed was boating safely too, but I'm sure a few dummies were on the water.What can I say ? its absolutely 100% well known knowledge to wear a life jacket when wearing a jetski, isn't it ? Not unlike wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle. Choose not to wear one ? Well, you can quickly become the poster child of "Wear a Life Jacket or Die' campaignThrough being big-headed, feeling bulletproof, alcohol, just plain being stupid or a myriad of other things, people choose to do stupid things in life, thats for certain.Yes, its sad his life is over because of a dumb choice, maybe others will live because they'll wear a life jacket remembering what happened to HIll ?

What you are saying is absolutely true, but your lack of compassion or heart is what is throwing people off.You make it sound like because he didnt wear the vest its OK that he died, thats so wrong, its a tragedy, just one that could have been avoided had he worn a vestI cant even think about how many times i made silly choices, like not wearing a seatbelt or running in the subway near the tracks, with one shove from a stranger i would fall into the tracks. I would hope if i god forbid got into a serious accident in any of those situations people wouldn't say, "He deserved to die", the only people who we can say its Ok that they died are those that threaten and or take the lives of others

 

[Stealthycat]

biggamer3 I didn't say he deserved it, rather his actions were a direct cause of his death, and that everyone could use it to learn a little something. His life came and went, and so often lives don't make no differences at all. If his could save one life froma stupid mistake by making just one person think twice and wear a PFD then it mattered more so, you know ?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Gee good thing we have Stealthycat here to teach us life lessons.

 

[Idiot_2]

"...Fare you well, fare you well

loved you more than words could tell..."

RIP Marquise Hill

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Stealthycat is right. Wear a life jacket, wear a seat belt, don't even drive a motorcycle (but if you do wear a helmet.)

 

[bostonfred]

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

 

[shadyridr]

Anybody else hear that Hill was engaged and that was not the same woman on the jet ski? I thought I heard that.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Anybody else hear that Hill was engaged and that was not the same woman on the jet ski? I thought I heard that.

I don't know about engaged, but I heard that the girl was not a romantic interest but a friend from high school.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

Nobody said that he couldn't say it - just that it was pretty awful tact and timing.Besides, I'm offended by your avatar and I don't say anything about it.

 

[fatness]

RIP MarquiseHe was helping building houses for families after Katrina in his spare time.

Yet nobody wants to talk about that; just about the life jacket. The moralists have taken over this board to show us the error of everyone's ways.

 

[fatness]

Link

"He was a hero until the end," his cousin, Elaine Hill Blackshire of Alabama, told the Boston Herald for Tuesday's editions. "He made sure he got her to safety. I'm just so sad that he lost his life, but he wouldn't have had it any other way. If he had saved himself, and knowing she couldn't swim, he couldn't have lived with himself.

"He thought of others first. He was just that kind of person."

I'm sorry he's dead. Sounds like a decent man.

 

[Yitbos69]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.RIPMarquise Hill

 

[Ron_Mexico]

You will be missed.

RIP Marquise Hill.

 

[redman]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.RIP

Marquise Hill

People are a little too oversensitive. First off, it's not like his family or friends frequent this board. We're not gossiping in the back of the funeral home. We're discussing a current event on a message board. Second, he's made comments about the poor choice in not wearing a life jacket, something that's included in every, and I mean every news report I've seen on this in the last 24 hours. He made no snarky comments about "sell high" or "you can cut him now" or anything else that would even place fantasy football interests over real life.

He's got his take, you've got yours.

 

[Slinger]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.

Second, he's made comments about the poor choice in not wearing a life jacket, something that's included in every, and I mean every news report I've seen on this in the last 24 hours.

That's the thing. We all know that you should wear a life jacket. Duh.

 

[zDwinger]

I learned long ago never do water sports without a vest. What a shame, could have been prevented.

:(

 

[identikit]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.RIP

Marquise Hill

People are a little too oversensitive. First off, it's not like his family or friends frequent this board. We're not gossiping in the back of the funeral home. We're discussing a current event on a message board. Second, he's made comments about the poor choice in not wearing a life jacket, something that's included in every, and I mean every news report I've seen on this in the last 24 hours. He made no snarky comments about "sell high" or "you can cut him now" or anything else that would even place fantasy football interests over real life.

He's got his take, you've got yours.

Very I'm sure if Hill could communicate from wherever he is now, he'd say to wear life jackets, no matter what.

Id

 

[Sidewinder]

Anybody else hear that Hill was engaged and that was not the same woman on the jet ski? I thought I heard that.

...Phoenix Ali, a friend and business partner of Hill's, said the woman who was with Hill was one of the athlete's childhood friends. Ali also would not identify her, but based on her report, he said, a disturbance in the water apparently knocked them off their craft....Link - full T-P article

 

[Rockton]

I'm a lil confused. If they fell off a jet ski, why not hold onto the jet ski?

They're built to stop going once the person falls off and the handles go back down to the base. It's a good few seconds and can be a little bit aways by the time it truly stops.I've read that he did know how to swim. This doesn't mean he knew how to tread for a long time in cold water without panicking(sp?). There's some mordbid type stat that panicking affects your breathing+heart rate so much that you're several times more likely to drown if you panic.

The key is normally attached to the life jacket so when you fall of the key pulls out and jet ski shuts off. If he wasnt wearing a lifejacket the key probably never pulle dout and the jet ski kept on going.

 

[fatness]

Boston Herald

Multiple sclerosis sufferer Barbara Jones’ life is “a dream” thanks to the generosity of Marquise Hill, so she wasn’t terribly surprised that the New England Patriot died a hero. “He was a very sweet, kind, personable individual. One of his comments to me was, he’s happy to do anything that would help somebody,” Jones, 60, recalled of the defensive end who helped build a wheelchair ramp on her Mattapan home two years ago. “I was hoping against hope,” Jones said upon learning the 6-foot, 6-inch, 24-year-old athlete’s body had been pulled from Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana.

In October 2005, two months after Hurricane Katrina all but destroyed his hometown of New Orleans, No. 91 went to Jones’ century-old Victorian on Babson Street with fellow Pats Tim Dwight, Patrick Pass and Tully Banta-Cain [stats] as members of Hometown Huddle, the Super Bowl champion team’s community-service partnership with United Way. In addition to replacing Jones’ front stairs with a ramp she could more easily manage on crutches, the players were sent to repair her fence and clean up her yard. “I’ve had MS for 28 years now,” the grandmother said. “(The ramp) makes life so much easier. I can just walk into my house. Before, I was struggling to get up the three steps that were there. Now, it’s just a dream.

Boston.com

Hill also took great pride in being from Louisiana. "He loved it, the little things like waking up in the morning and seeing alligators on the lawn," said Green, who also hails from Louisiana. "It's something different down there, and I remember when he first purchased a house, he was so happy."

Green said Hill's character was revealed after Hurricane Katrina "completely destroyed" the home. "He had to gut the house and start from scratch, and I remember him saying, 'God does different things to us,' and how he wanted to redo the house anyway," Green said. "He always stayed positive."

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

Nobody said that he couldn't say it - just that it was pretty awful tact and timing.Besides, I'm offended by your avatar and I don't say anything about it.

I second. RIP big guy.

 

[Yitbos69]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.RIP

Marquise Hill

People are a little too oversensitive. First off, it's not like his family or friends frequent this board. We're not gossiping in the back of the funeral home. We're discussing a current event on a message board. Second, he's made comments about the poor choice in not wearing a life jacket, something that's included in every, and I mean every news report I've seen on this in the last 24 hours. He made no snarky comments about "sell high" or "you can cut him now" or anything else that would even place fantasy football interests over real life.

He's got his take, you've got yours.

Well I guess you guys can keep on stating the obvious....."What can I say ? its absolutely 100% well known knowledge to wear a life jacket when wearing(riding) a jetski, isn't it ?" Is stealthycat trying to educate us on what he states is 100% well known?(whatever that means) I just don't see the point.

 

[Yitbos69]

I see nothing wrong with what stealthycat said. IIn fact, am a bit offended that anyone would say that he can't say that.

There is a time and a place and stealthycat was off on both.RIP

Marquise Hill

People are a little too oversensitive. First off, it's not like his family or friends frequent this board. We're not gossiping in the back of the funeral home. We're discussing a current event on a message board. Second, he's made comments about the poor choice in not wearing a life jacket, something that's included in every, and I mean every news report I've seen on this in the last 24 hours. He made no snarky comments about "sell high" or "you can cut him now" or anything else that would even place fantasy football interests over real life.

He's got his take, you've got yours.

BTW. I don't think someone can be a "little too oversensitive". You are either oversensitive or you are not. Well that's my take.

 

[mrhankey]

The LSU family sends our thoughts and prayers to the Hill family.

GEAUX TIGERS

 

[Micon]

His stupidity cost him his life. Sure it sucks that he died but his death could have been avoided by simply wearing a life jacket, common sense to most. His death is probably a good thing because people will be more aware of the dangers of boating without a life jacket and it could save some lives.

 

[prymetyme25]

His stupidity cost him his life. Sure it sucks that he died but his death could have been avoided by simply wearing a life jacket, common sense to most. His death is probably a good thing because people will be more aware of the dangers of boating without a life jacket and it could save some lives.

No actually jumping back in to save another human being cost him his life. Stupid is a very harsh word to some and shouldn't be used for a guy who risk his on life to save someone else. If he jump into the water without a vest to save your child I doubt if you would be calling him stupid right now.

 

[buck naked]

I think the many responses to this thread are good to discuss. I was thinking the same thing that stealthycat said. If we can't discuss it now, when would be better? When everyone has stopped thinking about it? That does not make us less compassionate.

I also find it very interesting that he was helping build homes after Katrina. Now I've learned that Hill had compassion and a will to serve others, but at the same time made a tragic mistake by not wearing a life jacket.

 

[PatsWillWin]

His stupidity cost him his life. Sure it sucks that he died but his death could have been avoided by simply wearing a life jacket, common sense to most. His death is probably a good thing because people will be more aware of the dangers of boating without a life jacket and it could save some lives.

 

[prymetyme25]

I think the many responses to this thread are good to discuss. I was thinking the same thing that stealthycat said. If we can't discuss it now, when would be better? When everyone has stopped thinking about it? That does not make us less compassionate. I also find it very interesting that he was helping build homes after Katrina. Now I've learned that Hill had compassion and a will to serve others, but at the same time made a tragic mistake by not wearing a life jacket.

Well thought out and well put. I thought calling the man stupid was out of line. but thats JMO.

 

[Stealthycat]

just that it was pretty awful tact and timing.

If you'd have put " Marquise Hill " and " PFD " in the same thread a week ago, nobody would have paid attention at all.What better way to look at death, then to find the best aspects of it and to to go from there ? When I die, I hopt that people celebrate that they knew me. I would hope that the WAY I died was to be used to help others NOT die. I'm a Christian man, in my death I pray that Jesus will give me life, and THAT is celebration that the living can be comforted with.As we learn more about Hill, he looks to have been a very good man. We'd never have known that if not for this accident, and from this accident will spawn safety awareness in boating I am certain.His death wasn't for nothing, it will save many other lives in the future I'd be my 1.1 Dynasty pick on it, and THAT is something that will last far longer than a simple " sorry to hear about that "

 

[Stealthycat]

We could have all said " Sorry about that motorcycle wreck there Ben " and thats that, but instead from Big Ben's motorcycle wreck I think there were lessons learned from it, and more people wear them now than before because of it.

i think the same will come from this

 

[Bri]

Would a normal life jacket support a 300+ pound man? Isn't there a weight limit where after a certain weight buoyancy isn't sufficient to keep his head above water?

Rest in Peace Marquise

 

[mrhankey]

I have no problem with discussing the "what ifs" and lessons learned from a tragic accident, but calling a kid "stupid" and his death "probably a good thing" is way out of line. Lets not forget that a human being has died and deserves a bit of dignity and respect, no matter what the circumstances of his death. What if we were talking about your dad, brother or son, would these words be acceptible?

 

[Micon]

I have no problem with discussing the "what ifs" and lessons learned from a tragic accident, but calling a kid "stupid" and his death "probably a good thing" is way out of line. Lets not forget that a human being has died and deserves a bit of dignity and respect, no matter what the circumstances of his death. What if we were talking about your dad, brother or son, would these words be acceptible?

"State regulations require anyone riding the popular speedy water craft to wear a life jacket and be off the water a half hour before sunset, said Coast Guard officer Aldo Portillo.Hill and his companion set out about 8:30 p.m. Sunday. Sunset was at 7:53 p.m., the Coast Guard said. "Jets skiing after dark = stupid + illegalJet skiing with no life jacket = stupid + illegalallowing a friend known as a poor swimmer to jet ski after dark with no life jacket = stupidjumping back into to look for friend in the dark with no life jacket = stupidHill made very poor decisions that day and paid for it with his life.And i dont believe everyone "deserves a bit of dignity and respect, no matter what the circumstances of his death." What about Josh Hancock? Eveyone was sad and sympathetic when he died. But the guy was drunk and high and deserved to die. Im just glad he didnt take anyone with him.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I have no problem with discussing the "what ifs" and lessons learned from a tragic accident, but calling a kid "stupid" and his death "probably a good thing" is way out of line. Lets not forget that a human being has died and deserves a bit of dignity and respect, no matter what the circumstances of his death. What if we were talking about your dad, brother or son, would these words be acceptible?

"State regulations require anyone riding the popular speedy water craft to wear a life jacket and be off the water a half hour before sunset, said Coast Guard officer Aldo Portillo.Hill and his companion set out about 8:30 p.m. Sunday. Sunset was at 7:53 p.m., the Coast Guard said. "Jets skiing after dark = stupid + illegalJet skiing with no life jacket = stupid + illegalallowing a friend known as a poor swimmer to jet ski after dark with no life jacket = stupidjumping back into to look for friend in the dark with no life jacket = stupidHill made very poor decisions that day and paid for it with his life.And i dont believe everyone "deserves a bit of dignity and respect, no matter what the circumstances of his death." What about Josh Hancock? Eveyone was sad and sympathetic when he died. But the guy was drunk and high and deserved to die. Im just glad he didnt take anyone with him.

Saying his death was probably a good thing was out of line and uncalled for. Period.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Wow - people are so judgementals it's sickening.

So pretty much we have people saying that Josh Hancock "deserved to die" and that Marquise Hill dying was "probably a good thing." Oh, also calling it "stupid" that Hill jumped into the water to help a friend and ULTIMATELY ENDED UP SAVING HER LIFE.

I'm glad we have some perfect human beings in the SP to judge us all.

 

[Micon]

Wow - people are so judgementals it's sickening.So pretty much we have people saying that Josh Hancock "deserved to die" and that Marquise Hill dying was "probably a good thing." Oh, also calling it "stupid" that Hill jumped into the water to help a friend and ULTIMATELY ENDED UP SAVING HER LIFE.I'm glad we have some perfect human beings in the SP to judge us all.

How did he save her life? He put her life at risk by not making her wear a life vest in the first place. He is no hero. He is just another punk athlete that thinks they are above the law and invincible.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Wow - people are so judgementals it's sickening.So pretty much we have people saying that Josh Hancock "deserved to die" and that Marquise Hill dying was "probably a good thing." Oh, also calling it "stupid" that Hill jumped into the water to help a friend and ULTIMATELY ENDED UP SAVING HER LIFE.I'm glad we have some perfect human beings in the SP to judge us all.

How did he save her life? He put her life at risk by not making her wear a life vest in the first place. He is no hero. He is just another punk athlete that thinks they are above the law and invincible.

The friend is an adult - she could've worn a life vest and didn't. I like how she's not responsible for her decision but somehow he is. He saved her life. This is not debatable. And people who are not "punk athletes" go out without life vests all the time. So don't talk about things that you clearly know nothing about.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Patriot fans:

I know this is off topic a bit, but it's been bothering me and I never asked - I vaguely remember an interview on NFL radio where Marquis mentioned that some of his relatives were shot and killed by police during the Katrina fallout. He didn't go into the details, but said he had alot of motivations for doing philanthropic work in NO. Does anyone know the story behind that? Also, please correct any inaccuracies I may have stated, it's been a while.

Also - how good was he? I clearly don't know much about the Patriots, but I wager it's tough to break through the starting three of the DL there. Was he the 5th guy in that behind Jarvis Green?

 

[duaneok66]

wow . . . interesting thread; I'd say that we ALL need to take a step back and make sure we try and do the right things as much as possible . . . I know I will

will YOU? (or are we going to keep arguing??)

 

[phthalatemagic]

will YOU? (or are we going to keep arguing??)

It's tough to ignore the classless remarks (I responded too) but I guess their reign of terror will end when people ignore them.

 

[The Shizzle]

It's nice to read about the good stuff he did during his short life, not read about how he made a mistake not wearing a life vest.