Paul Byrd busted for HGH! (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

This guy was a bum before he starting using.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10422998

 

[Die]

This guy was a bum before he starting using.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10422998

During the time of the alleged purchases, the pitcher was with the Kansas City Royals, Atlanta Braves and the Los Angeles Angels. HGH was not banned by baseball then When Byrd used HGH, it was not illegal. The records they have are from when it was legal to use. Non story.

 

[top dog]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

A little different take on the story as well. He claims he had a legitimate medical condition and that he team was aware he was taking it.

In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him.

"I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown."

In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither."

The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004.

Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries.

It's kind of a moot point though as Die pointed out as it was before it was a banned substance in MLB.

 

[Tom Servo]

Obviously leaked to hurt the Indians in game 7 tonight. Non-story.

 

[Da Guru]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

A little different take on the story as well. He claims he had a legitimate medical condition and that he team was aware he was taking it.

In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him.

"I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown."

In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither."

The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004.

Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries.

It's kind of a moot point though as Die pointed out as it was before it was a banned substance in MLB.

It was not banned because MLB had no idea was HGH was. HGH is a very effective muscle and strength and recovery drug.Ask Barry Bonds. It is rare that pro athletes improve over age of 35 unless they have some help.

 

[Tom Servo]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

A little different take on the story as well. He claims he had a legitimate medical condition and that he team was aware he was taking it.

In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him.

"I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown."

In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither."

The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004.

Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries.

It's kind of a moot point though as Die pointed out as it was before it was a banned substance in MLB.

It was not banned because MLB had no idea was HGH was. HGH is a very effective muscle and strength and recovery drug.Ask Barry Bonds. It is rare that pro athletes improve over age of 35 unless they have some help.

Let's see...BB on 'roids to roll up stats = Paul Byrd on HGH for what could be legimate medical reasons.Got it.

 

[top dog]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

A little different take on the story as well. He claims he had a legitimate medical condition and that he team was aware he was taking it.

In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him.

"I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown."

In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither."

The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004.

Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries.

It's kind of a moot point though as Die pointed out as it was before it was a banned substance in MLB.

It was not banned because MLB had no idea was HGH was. HGH is a very effective muscle and strength and recovery drug.Ask Barry Bonds. It is rare that pro athletes improve over age of 35 unless they have some help.

Ok.. and it's only a story with Bonds because he broke arguably the most cherished record in all of baseball and he was taking HGH (and possibly other things) for the purpose of gaining an edge.. We're talking about a marginal starting pitcher who is no danger of breaking any records any time soon who might have a legitimate reason to have used HGH. I'm not trying to be a here or be some Byrd apologist.. I just don't think they are the same thing.

 

[Da Guru]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

A little different take on the story as well. He claims he had a legitimate medical condition and that he team was aware he was taking it.

In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs.

Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him.

"I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown."

In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither."

The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004.

Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries.

It's kind of a moot point though as Die pointed out as it was before it was a banned substance in MLB.

It was not banned because MLB had no idea was HGH was. HGH is a very effective muscle and strength and recovery drug.Ask Barry Bonds. It is rare that pro athletes improve over age of 35 unless they have some help.

Ok.. and it's only a story with Bonds because he broke arguably the most cherished record in all of baseball and he was taking HGH (and possibly other things) for the purpose of gaining an edge.. We're talking about a marginal starting pitcher who is no danger of breaking any records any time soon who might have a legitimate reason to have used HGH. I'm not trying to be a :( here or be some Byrd apologist.. I just don't think they are the same thing.

Players like Byrd do not care about records..they care about paydays! Look at Byrds salary for a below average pitcher for most of his career.

 

[Your Mother]

This guy was a bum before he starting using.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10422998

Way to completely not read the story.

 

[Finless]

This explains Byrd's dominance over the years.

 

[Workhorse]

Who gets HGH from their dentist?

 

[Tom Servo]

Players like Byrd do not care about records..they care about paydays! Look at Byrds salary for a below average pitcher for kost of his career.

I dunno...does this look average to you?
Year Ag Tm Lg W L G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP IBB BK ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP 1995 24 NYM NL 2 0 17 0 0 0 6 0 22.0 18 6 5 1 7 26 1 1 91 1 2 2.05 4.06 198 1.136 1996 25 NYM NL 1 2 38 0 0 0 14 0 46.7 48 22 22 7 21 31 0 3 204 4 0 4.24 4.01 95 1.479 1997 26 ATL NL 4 4 31 4 0 0 9 0 53.0 47 34 31 6 28 37 4 3 236 4 1 5.26 4.17 79 1.415 1998 27 TOT NL 5 2 9 8 2 1 0 0 57.0 45 19 17 6 18 39 0 2 233 1 0 2.68 4.36 162 1.105 ATL NL 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.0 4 3 3 0 1 1 0 0 11 0 0 13.50 4.15 31 2.500 PHI NL 5 2 8 8 2 1 0 0 55.0 41 16 14 6 17 38 0 2 222 1 0 2.29 4.36 190 1.055 1999 28 PHI NL 15 11 32 32 1 0 0 0 199.7 205 119 102 34 70 106 17 11 872 2 3 4.60 4.80 104 1.377 AS 2000 29 PHI NL 2 9 17 15 0 0 0 0 83.0 89 67 60 17 35 53 3 1 371 2 0 6.51 4.68 72 1.494 2001 30 TOT 6 7 19 16 1 0 1 0 103.3 120 54 51 12 26 52 2 2 444 1 0 4.44 4.78 108 1.413 PHI NL 0 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 10.0 10 9 9 1 4 3 1 1 45 0 0 8.10 4.28 53 1.400 KCR AL 6 6 16 15 1 0 0 0 93.3 110 45 42 11 22 49 1 1 399 1 0 4.05 4.84 119 1.4142002 31 KCR AL 17 11 33 33 7 2 0 0 228.3 224 111 99 36 38 129 7 3 935 1 1 3.90 4.96 127 1.1472004 33 ATL NL 8 7 19 19 0 0 0 0 114.3 123 57 50 18 19 79 2 1 482 0 0 3.94 4.31 110 1.2422005 34 LAA AL 12 11 31 31 2 1 0 0 204.3 216 95 85 22 28 102 7 1 842 1 0 3.74 4.23 113 1.1942006 35 CLE AL 10 9 31 31 1 0 0 0 179.0 232 120 97 26 38 88 6 2 805 3 0 4.88 4.52 93 1.5082007 36 CLE AL 15 8 31 31 2 2 0 0 192.3 239 107 98 27 28 88 6 5 835 3 0 4.59 4.61 100 1.388=========================12 Yr WL% .545 97 81 308 220 16 6 30 0 1483.0 1606 811 717 212 356 830 55 35 6350 23 7 4.35 4.57 105 1.323Notice that he didn't get regular work until 1999. He was out of action for all of 2003 most of the 2004 season with arm problems. The other two seasons look decent to me where he was taking HGH.If you caught his presser, he stated he used his own credit card and, in many instances, had them delivered to whatever clubhouse he was in at the time. He's either the stupidest man alive, or he had a problem which necessitated the HGH. I may be a , but I'm at least willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Will you?

 

[Da Guru]

Who gets HGH from their dentist?

Exactly..

 

[Bobcat10]

Obviously leaked to hurt the Indians in game 7 tonight. Non-story.

#1 - Isn't George Mitchell on the Red Sox board? Isn't SF the mecca of the investigation? Not why the Tribe lost, but interesting no less. Non-story when released that the media makes a story because of what team is playing.#2 - Dude has a tumor on his pituitary gland and will be getting further MRIs soon, allegedly. You don't mess around with something like this if true.

 

[Workhorse]

Mitchell says that he didn't leak the info and didn't know about Byrd until the SF paper broke the story.

 

[jtnt1096]

When they finally bust a big name player that has actually taken something since all this stuff has become illegal, then it is a story.

I get tired of hearing about all these breaking news stories about someone who supposedly took HGH or steriods 5 to 10 years ago. Personally, I don't care. It was not illegal then.

It would be like if they made alcohol illegal today. Five years from now, would people be frowned upon because they drank when it was legal.

 

[the moops]

When they finally bust a big name player that has actually taken something since all this stuff has become illegal, then it is a story.

I get tired of hearing about all these breaking news stories about someone who supposedly took HGH or steriods 5 to 10 years ago. Personally, I don't care. It was not illegal then.

It would be like if they made alcohol illegal today. Five years from now, would people be frowned upon because they drank when it was legal.

No it wouldn't.I dont really care because I am a cynic and I believe the number of players that took steroids/HGH is substantial...but to play this whole "not illegal" thing is bogus. Some of y'all make it sound as guys would be shooting on camera...cause, you know, it wasn't "illegal" or anything.

But, like I said...I dont really care, cause I think they were all on something at some point.

 

[David Yudkin]

When they finally bust a big name player that has actually taken something since all this stuff has become illegal, then it is a story.

I get tired of hearing about all these breaking news stories about someone who supposedly took HGH or steriods 5 to 10 years ago. Personally, I don't care. It was not illegal then.

It would be like if they made alcohol illegal today. Five years from now, would people be frowned upon because they drank when it was legal.

From what I've heard, steroids as a whole were classified as banned substances by MLB after the strike of 1981. (I saw a program on tv that discussed the history of the steroids problem.) However, there was no testing policy and no consequences/suspensions were set forth until the past few years. Since then, specific substances have been spelled out.So technically there were players that were breaking the rules, but beyond that it gets dicey as to how you can enforce a policy when there was no system to monitor it and no disciplinary rules set forth to do anything about it.

 

[Dentist]

Who gets HGH from their dentist?

Exactly..