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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Fids, ya know we're buds but I see issues with your squad bro
Pennington NYJ 10
Russell ?
Quinn ?
You got caught in the QB run, Cpenny is not enough both rookies should play and will by CHads bye, but meh Grade: F+
Westbrook Phi 5
Norwood Atl 8
LWashington NYJ 10
Leonard ?
Henry ?
Shipp 8
I Love Westy, hes a ppr monster as most know, norwood & leon should platoon at RB2 with some points, too rookies and shipp might give you some points. Overall though weak after westy Grade: B
Owens Dal 8
AJohnson Hou 10
Edwards Cle 7
Henderson NO 4
Hagan Mia 9
Your top 4 look great but in these 5 wr's are just not enough. Owens-AJ-BRaylon-Devery should be fine most weeks, but one injury and byes weeks = trouble. Not enough Depth - C+
Cooley Was 4
Scheffler Den 6
Rock solid here B+
Graham 5
Scobee 4
Pittsburgh 6
St. Louis 9
these guys look good to go B
Fidds two of your RB's should have been WR's. And the guy who goes 16th at QB usually has issues.
With your strategy Fidds Im interested to see how your team plays out, Im betting you'll last until 2 of your big WR's have crap games the same week.
Pennington NYJ 10
Russell ?
Quinn ?
You got caught in the QB run, Cpenny is not enough both rookies should play and will by CHads bye, but meh Grade: F+
Westbrook Phi 5
Norwood Atl 8
LWashington NYJ 10
Leonard ?
Henry ?
Shipp 8
I Love Westy, hes a ppr monster as most know, norwood & leon should platoon at RB2 with some points, too rookies and shipp might give you some points. Overall though weak after westy Grade: B
Owens Dal 8
AJohnson Hou 10
Edwards Cle 7
Henderson NO 4
Hagan Mia 9
Your top 4 look great but in these 5 wr's are just not enough. Owens-AJ-BRaylon-Devery should be fine most weeks, but one injury and byes weeks = trouble. Not enough Depth - C+
Cooley Was 4
Scheffler Den 6
Rock solid here B+
Graham 5
Scobee 4
Pittsburgh 6
St. Louis 9
these guys look good to go B
Fidds two of your RB's should have been WR's. And the guy who goes 16th at QB usually has issues.
With your strategy Fidds Im interested to see how your team plays out, Im betting you'll last until 2 of your big WR's have crap games the same week.
radballs
Footballguy
I'm going to be posting the sign up for it in five minutes.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
Team Legacy
Footballguy
I think fairness is what this contest is about.That sounds chaotic to me. Not that the idea isn't original though, I just don't see the strategy in that type of game. You could get screwed and get the last pick every round. How is that fair?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I did a redraft league before where you re-picked draft order after every two rounds, kinda fun
Fiddles
Footballguy
that would be cool as hell
radballs
Footballguy
I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Personally, I have fared well from any draft spot and generally have no complaints even drafting last. Yes, it's a decided disadvantage to overcome but throughout the course of the draft you still have access to all but the top 11-15 guys off the board (depending on league size). last year, I was in a true "experts" league with fantasy guys from KFFL, FoxSports, CBSSportsline, The Sporting News, etc. and picked last and came about 3 points short of winning the title. The trick is geting value from all of your picks and identifying sleepers that pan out. I ended up having a decent team which included Vick, Westbrook, Addai, Driver, Cotchery, Crumpler, the Ravens D, and some other players that did pretty well.IIRC, I was the last team out in TLSL last year drafting from the 12 spot. An early draft slot does not automatically mean you end up with a winning team and a late draft slot doesn't spell doom and gloom either. I'd be potentially interst to try your league and just slot me in at the #16 pick just to show people that you can still do well even with a lousy draft slot.
radballs
Footballguy
I don't disagree with you whatsoever. In fact, I imagine there might be a few people that won't end up bidding for a few of the spots. In which case, we may have to roll a die to settle ties of 0.00 bids. I'm actually trying to discount the early pick advantage. Or I hope to. But, I'd like to see how much others think the LT2 (as well as others) advantage is worth. You're welcome to join even if you have no intent of bidding anything at all.
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Thom Yorke
Footballguy
I don't think the 16th pick, particularly this year, is the worst spot. Being stuck between 11-14 is really the ugly position, IMO.
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
From what I've seen it's not a rising tide, just your skills decaying.
Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
LHUCKS
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Yo Pimpin'...thanks for the Gonzalez pick (although do better on the bye next time). My WRs are gonna throw down some huge numbers.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Still too early to tell about your WRs. Pats are still in the running for Moss which would hurt Stallworth. Booker rumored to be cut in MIA. CJ could eat into Roy's #s. Gonzalez was a nice compliment as it turns out, but who knows what he'll do as a rookie. This WR corp is good . . . but I don't think they got more a ton more valuable since the PDSL draft.BassNBrew said:
jeter23
Footballguy
QB- With Minny passing on Quinn and other QBs, I am much happier with that spot. A+RB- Took some chances with 3 rookie RBs and hit on 2 of them, especially Jackson in the 19th round. A
WR- Again, took some chances and hit on both Meachem and Bowe, IMO. I can see both starting and faring well, from a fantasy perspective. I still lack the depth since I went for other spots first. C+
TE- Wasn't affected by yesterday. B
K- Ditto B-
Def- Ditto A+
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Actually the prospect of CJ was why I drafted ROY. I think this will help free up ROY. Martz has previously shown that three WRs on his team can be fantasy impact players.I'm also all for the washed up decoy coming to NE. Moss can draw the double coverage and Stallworth can run free on the other side. He won't put up huge reception totals, but the frequent 15+ point days will be great for this format.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
QUARTERBACKS
5.02 Tom Brady - QB6 - NE (10)
8.15 Jason Campbell - QB26 - WAS (4)
Brady's stock continues to rise as the team added mercurial Randy Moss to the mix. Given the make up of the team, I'm starting to think the Pats will throw a fair amount more this year. Campbell still is unproven and certainly the Skins can't add anyone to help the offense in the draft.
RUNNING BACKS
1.02 Steven Jackson - RB2 - STL (9)
2.15 Chester Taylor - RB20 - MIN (5)
7.02 Warrick Dunn - RB38 - ATL (8)
13.02 Michael Bennett - RB54 - KC (8)
ADP heading to MIN sticks a dagger in Taylor's value, but I think they will split time most of the year. CT goes from a Top 12 back to a borderline Top 25 back if he plays well enough. Leonard to STL probably doesn't help S-Jax but I still think Jackson gets a ton of touches. ATL did not take a RB so Dunn may have more value than expected.
WIDE RECEIVERS
3.02 Marques Colston - WR12 - NO (4)
6.15 Issac Bruce - WR36 -STL (9)
9.02 Derrick Mason - WR45 - BAL (8)
10.15 Amani Toomer - WR60 - NYG (9)
12.15 Patrick Crayton - WR74 – DAL (8)
15.02 Ted Ginn Jr. - WR83 – MIA (9)
19.02 Kevin Walter - WR98 - HOU (10)
Not sure what Meachem does to Colston's value in NO. The Ravens didn't grab a WR super early so maybe that means Mason sticks around. Steve Smith to NYG may be a conern that Toomer is not going to be fully recovered but that's just speculation. I thought the Cowboys would take a top WR but didn't so that helps Crayton. Not sure what the Dolphins were thinking but I have to think that Ginn will get a lot more playing time as a Top 10 pick than he would have gotten elsewhere. HOU drafted Jacoby Jones at WR but I know very little about him.
TIGHT ENDS
4.15 Todd Heap - TE5 - BAL (8)
11.02 Eric Johnson - TE19 – NO (4)
20.15 David Martin – TE 34 - MIA (9)
Both NO and MIA could have added a TE but didn't so all three of these guys should be NFL starters and worth a lot in 2 PPR leagues.
PLACE KICKERS
16.15 Jeff Reed - PK23 – PIT (6)
17.02 Ryan Longwell- PK24 – MIN (5)
They're still just kickers . . .
DEF/ST
14.15 New York Jets - DEF15 (10)
18.15 Houston Texans - DEF32 (10)
Both units added some defensive help in the draft. I think the Jets defense should be pretty solid this year.
5.02 Tom Brady - QB6 - NE (10)
8.15 Jason Campbell - QB26 - WAS (4)
Brady's stock continues to rise as the team added mercurial Randy Moss to the mix. Given the make up of the team, I'm starting to think the Pats will throw a fair amount more this year. Campbell still is unproven and certainly the Skins can't add anyone to help the offense in the draft.
RUNNING BACKS
1.02 Steven Jackson - RB2 - STL (9)
2.15 Chester Taylor - RB20 - MIN (5)
7.02 Warrick Dunn - RB38 - ATL (8)
13.02 Michael Bennett - RB54 - KC (8)
ADP heading to MIN sticks a dagger in Taylor's value, but I think they will split time most of the year. CT goes from a Top 12 back to a borderline Top 25 back if he plays well enough. Leonard to STL probably doesn't help S-Jax but I still think Jackson gets a ton of touches. ATL did not take a RB so Dunn may have more value than expected.
WIDE RECEIVERS
3.02 Marques Colston - WR12 - NO (4)
6.15 Issac Bruce - WR36 -STL (9)
9.02 Derrick Mason - WR45 - BAL (8)
10.15 Amani Toomer - WR60 - NYG (9)
12.15 Patrick Crayton - WR74 – DAL (8)
15.02 Ted Ginn Jr. - WR83 – MIA (9)
19.02 Kevin Walter - WR98 - HOU (10)
Not sure what Meachem does to Colston's value in NO. The Ravens didn't grab a WR super early so maybe that means Mason sticks around. Steve Smith to NYG may be a conern that Toomer is not going to be fully recovered but that's just speculation. I thought the Cowboys would take a top WR but didn't so that helps Crayton. Not sure what the Dolphins were thinking but I have to think that Ginn will get a lot more playing time as a Top 10 pick than he would have gotten elsewhere. HOU drafted Jacoby Jones at WR but I know very little about him.
TIGHT ENDS
4.15 Todd Heap - TE5 - BAL (8)
11.02 Eric Johnson - TE19 – NO (4)
20.15 David Martin – TE 34 - MIA (9)
Both NO and MIA could have added a TE but didn't so all three of these guys should be NFL starters and worth a lot in 2 PPR leagues.
PLACE KICKERS
16.15 Jeff Reed - PK23 – PIT (6)
17.02 Ryan Longwell- PK24 – MIN (5)
They're still just kickers . . .
DEF/ST
14.15 New York Jets - DEF15 (10)
18.15 Houston Texans - DEF32 (10)
Both units added some defensive help in the draft. I think the Jets defense should be pretty solid this year.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
(For future reference, I weighed the positions unequally in determining total team scores. My "secret formula" is the average of: QB x 2, RB x 3, WR x 4, TE x 2, DEF x 1, and PK x 1.
NOTE: After reviewing all the teams I may go back and tinker with the grades . . .)
AARON RUDNICKI - Draft Slot #1
Player, Bye Week, Draft Pick #, PDSL ADP
QBs
Bulger 9, 65, 60
Culpepper 9, 160, 161
Frerotte 9, 320, 347
The Rams offense should be near the top of the league again and Bulger should again be a Top 5 QB as long as he's healthy. I happen to think Culpepper will be pretty much useless this year. I doubt MIA keeps him around but I don't know who else would really want him and given his health he may not even start anywhere this year. Obviously the bye week issue is unfortunate but those are the breaks. This may turn out to be 16 weeks of scoring a Rams QB (and that's probably not a bad thing). GRADE: B+ if Culpepper plays somewhere, B/B- if he doesn't.
RBs
Tomlinson 7, 1, 1
Lewis 7, 64, 61
Betts 4, 97, 95
Moore 5, 192, 201
Faulk 10, 193, 200
Any team with a healthy LT has great RB scoring. Lewis got a boost when CLE passed on ADP (but it's still CLE). Another bye week conflict could be problematic. Betts could very well be a reserve this year so he's tough to evaluate. Moore's stock took a dive with ADP coming to MIN. Faulk may seem some work but the Pats may not be done wheeling and dealing and may still end up with another RB. How can you give a team with LT anything but a . . . GRADE: A.
WRs
Driver 7, 32, 32
Houshmandzadeh 5, 33, 37
Battle 6, 128, 129
Curry 5, 129, 139
Jenkins 8, 161, 159
JReed 6, 289, 332
Driver and Housh should be a great 1-2 punch, especially with Moss not coming to GB and Henry suspended in CIN. Battle's stock took a dip with D-Jax coming in but Curry's went up with Moss heading out. Jenkins should do ok in ATL but the Falcons really have not put up great numbers for WRs. Not a huge fan of Reed's but maybe he can help in a pinch. Probably would have wanted to see another WR in the mix. I see three solid starters in Driver, Housh, and Curry though. GRADE: B+/A-.
TEs
DeClark 9
Utecht 6
Clark's value went down a notch with Olsen's selection. I doubt he'll be a top 10 TE again this year. Utecht will be servicable but really is the #2 in IND. If Clark loses a lot of playing time, this may be a very bland pairing. GRADE: C/C+.
PKs
JBrown 8
Lindell 6
They're kickers. And they both have steady jobs. Both ranked in the 10-15 range last year, so they should be above average. GRADE: B.
DEF/ST
Redskins 4
Chiefs 8
Certainly not the best duo to have. The Skins were terrible for fantasy purposes last year and IIRC KC was around the #20 defense. At least there are two of them. GRADE: D-.
OVERALL
Solid team that may have a tough road to hoe come Weeks 7 and 9. LT could carry the team himself if needed. Bulger coupled with strong RBs and WRs may be solid enough to advance until the bye weeks could become a problem. Not a huge fan of taking Moore and Faulk at 192/193. Probably there were better options at other positions still available. TEAM GRADE: B (Score of 86).
NOTE: After reviewing all the teams I may go back and tinker with the grades . . .)
AARON RUDNICKI - Draft Slot #1
Player, Bye Week, Draft Pick #, PDSL ADP
QBs
Bulger 9, 65, 60
Culpepper 9, 160, 161
Frerotte 9, 320, 347
The Rams offense should be near the top of the league again and Bulger should again be a Top 5 QB as long as he's healthy. I happen to think Culpepper will be pretty much useless this year. I doubt MIA keeps him around but I don't know who else would really want him and given his health he may not even start anywhere this year. Obviously the bye week issue is unfortunate but those are the breaks. This may turn out to be 16 weeks of scoring a Rams QB (and that's probably not a bad thing). GRADE: B+ if Culpepper plays somewhere, B/B- if he doesn't.
RBs
Tomlinson 7, 1, 1
Lewis 7, 64, 61
Betts 4, 97, 95
Moore 5, 192, 201
Faulk 10, 193, 200
Any team with a healthy LT has great RB scoring. Lewis got a boost when CLE passed on ADP (but it's still CLE). Another bye week conflict could be problematic. Betts could very well be a reserve this year so he's tough to evaluate. Moore's stock took a dive with ADP coming to MIN. Faulk may seem some work but the Pats may not be done wheeling and dealing and may still end up with another RB. How can you give a team with LT anything but a . . . GRADE: A.
WRs
Driver 7, 32, 32
Houshmandzadeh 5, 33, 37
Battle 6, 128, 129
Curry 5, 129, 139
Jenkins 8, 161, 159
JReed 6, 289, 332
Driver and Housh should be a great 1-2 punch, especially with Moss not coming to GB and Henry suspended in CIN. Battle's stock took a dip with D-Jax coming in but Curry's went up with Moss heading out. Jenkins should do ok in ATL but the Falcons really have not put up great numbers for WRs. Not a huge fan of Reed's but maybe he can help in a pinch. Probably would have wanted to see another WR in the mix. I see three solid starters in Driver, Housh, and Curry though. GRADE: B+/A-.
TEs
DeClark 9
Utecht 6
Clark's value went down a notch with Olsen's selection. I doubt he'll be a top 10 TE again this year. Utecht will be servicable but really is the #2 in IND. If Clark loses a lot of playing time, this may be a very bland pairing. GRADE: C/C+.
PKs
JBrown 8
Lindell 6
They're kickers. And they both have steady jobs. Both ranked in the 10-15 range last year, so they should be above average. GRADE: B.
DEF/ST
Redskins 4
Chiefs 8
Certainly not the best duo to have. The Skins were terrible for fantasy purposes last year and IIRC KC was around the #20 defense. At least there are two of them. GRADE: D-.
OVERALL
Solid team that may have a tough road to hoe come Weeks 7 and 9. LT could carry the team himself if needed. Bulger coupled with strong RBs and WRs may be solid enough to advance until the bye weeks could become a problem. Not a huge fan of taking Moore and Faulk at 192/193. Probably there were better options at other positions still available. TEAM GRADE: B (Score of 86).
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Team Legacy
Footballguy
Nice score with Jackson Jeter...
David Yudkin
Footballguy
(For future reference, I weighed the positions unequally in determining total team scores. My "secret formula" is the average of: QB x 2, RB x 3, WR x 4, TE x 2, DEF x 1, and PK x 1.
NOTE: After reviewing all the teams I may go back and tinker with the grades . . .)
DAVID YUDKIN - Draft Slot #2
Player, Bye Week, Draft Pick #, PDSL ADP
QBs
Brady 10, 66, 62
Campbell 4, 127, 134
Brady's stock may never be higher with the bounty of receivers he has to throw to this year. Moss should help even more. I wasn't thrilled with the pick at the time but I am happy I got him att his point. Campbell did pretty well in limited action last year--mostly by way of passing TDs which are very hard to predict. I suspect a healthy Brady will be good for 4,000+ yards and 28 TDs. The Pats on paper look to be bulking up for more of an aerial attack this year. Who knows with Campbell, but he was the last true starter left after the massive QB run in the 9th/10th rounds. GRADE: B+.
RBs
SJackson 9, 2, 2
CTaylor 5, 31, 28
Dunn 8, 98, 82
Bennett 8, 194, 215
Jackson won't see 90 receptions again and Leonard may lighten his workload some but S-Jax will again be a stud. Taylor's stock took a dive with the drafting of ADP, but from what I've been hearing ADP may need surgery that could keep him out for 4 months and would definitely limit him early in the year. This situation could end up like TJones and Benson Year 1 in CHI or Deuce/Bush in NO. Over the weekend I thought Taylor was going to be a wasted pick but from what I've been seeing it looks to be a sharing of the workload not a turning over the reins situations. ATL did not snag a RB as anticipated and one would think that Dunn still will get a decent workload. Bennett has been pimped by Edwards as in line for 100 carries this year even if LJ remains healthy and given Johnson's EXTREME workload since taking over for Holmes, Johnson could be in line for some bumps and bruises. GRADE: A-/B+.
WRs
Colston 4, 34, 36
Bruce 9, 95, 96
Mason 8, 130, 120
Toomer 9, 159, 162
Crayton 8, 191, 179
Ginn 9, 226, 202
Walter 10, 290, 289
Colston should be a stud again especially with Horn gone. Bruce is the same as always and again should be in the Top 20-30 WRs. Mason looked like he was going to get traded but obviously has not been to date and should continue to get a lot of receptions (almost 70 last year). Toomer has been flying under the radar but if healthy should still be the #2 in NYG. From what I've seen he should be good to go for the start of the season. Crayton did pretty well as a third receiver and Glenn and Owens are not getting any younger, so he may even get a chance to start a game or two with an injury to the other guys. I'm not sure WHAT the Dolphins were thinking, but they paid through the nose to get Ginn. Booker is rumored to be a potential cap casualty, so I wonder (hope?) that the Fins would at some point look to start Ginn. As discussed in the other draft thread, Walter still looks to be the #2 WR in HOU unless Jacoby Jones from Lane will start (doubtful in my book). Colston should be solid. Bruce/Mason/Toomer should all be decet WR2s and WR3s for this size league, and Crayton/Ginn/Walter may chip in a week or two here or there. Week 9 may be a challenge, but many teams could be in the same boat. Based on overall depth: GRADE: B+.
TEs
Heap 8, 63, 55
EJohnson 4, 162, 144
Martin 9, 319, 259
I see these guys as 3 clear starters all with a very good shot at 40+ receptions. IMO, this is the strongest group of TEs in the league--even better than LHUCKS with Gates. GRADE: A.
PKs
JReed 6, 255, 267
Longwell 5, 258, 268
They're kickers. With different bye weeks. And they should not lose their jobs. Nothing exciting here. GRADE: C.
DEF/ST
Jets 10, 223, 223
Texans 10, 287, 266
I think the Jets defense will be much improved this year and should rank in the Top 15 or so. Houston has made some steps to bolster their D, but I'm not expecting them to be anything to write home about. Their bye weeks, of course, had to be the same. GRADE: C-.
OVERALL
I think I did a decent job with some late additions that should see more playing time and more production than many are expected. IMO, you are better off taking guys slated to see action than those that have to vault up the depth chart and hopefully will contribute. The Taylor/ADP situation may have a profound effect on my team (as will Norwood/Dunn in ATL). While they may not be sexy picks, the group of WRs and TEs should do very well. Obviously not a lot was invested in PK or DEF, so I don't expect much out of them. I don't know if overall this team is strong enough to win, but it should be solid enough to early on NOT be the lowest scorer each week. TEAM GRADE: B/B+ (Score of 87).
NOTE: After reviewing all the teams I may go back and tinker with the grades . . .)
DAVID YUDKIN - Draft Slot #2
Player, Bye Week, Draft Pick #, PDSL ADP
QBs
Brady 10, 66, 62
Campbell 4, 127, 134
Brady's stock may never be higher with the bounty of receivers he has to throw to this year. Moss should help even more. I wasn't thrilled with the pick at the time but I am happy I got him att his point. Campbell did pretty well in limited action last year--mostly by way of passing TDs which are very hard to predict. I suspect a healthy Brady will be good for 4,000+ yards and 28 TDs. The Pats on paper look to be bulking up for more of an aerial attack this year. Who knows with Campbell, but he was the last true starter left after the massive QB run in the 9th/10th rounds. GRADE: B+.
RBs
SJackson 9, 2, 2
CTaylor 5, 31, 28
Dunn 8, 98, 82
Bennett 8, 194, 215
Jackson won't see 90 receptions again and Leonard may lighten his workload some but S-Jax will again be a stud. Taylor's stock took a dive with the drafting of ADP, but from what I've been hearing ADP may need surgery that could keep him out for 4 months and would definitely limit him early in the year. This situation could end up like TJones and Benson Year 1 in CHI or Deuce/Bush in NO. Over the weekend I thought Taylor was going to be a wasted pick but from what I've been seeing it looks to be a sharing of the workload not a turning over the reins situations. ATL did not snag a RB as anticipated and one would think that Dunn still will get a decent workload. Bennett has been pimped by Edwards as in line for 100 carries this year even if LJ remains healthy and given Johnson's EXTREME workload since taking over for Holmes, Johnson could be in line for some bumps and bruises. GRADE: A-/B+.
WRs
Colston 4, 34, 36
Bruce 9, 95, 96
Mason 8, 130, 120
Toomer 9, 159, 162
Crayton 8, 191, 179
Ginn 9, 226, 202
Walter 10, 290, 289
Colston should be a stud again especially with Horn gone. Bruce is the same as always and again should be in the Top 20-30 WRs. Mason looked like he was going to get traded but obviously has not been to date and should continue to get a lot of receptions (almost 70 last year). Toomer has been flying under the radar but if healthy should still be the #2 in NYG. From what I've seen he should be good to go for the start of the season. Crayton did pretty well as a third receiver and Glenn and Owens are not getting any younger, so he may even get a chance to start a game or two with an injury to the other guys. I'm not sure WHAT the Dolphins were thinking, but they paid through the nose to get Ginn. Booker is rumored to be a potential cap casualty, so I wonder (hope?) that the Fins would at some point look to start Ginn. As discussed in the other draft thread, Walter still looks to be the #2 WR in HOU unless Jacoby Jones from Lane will start (doubtful in my book). Colston should be solid. Bruce/Mason/Toomer should all be decet WR2s and WR3s for this size league, and Crayton/Ginn/Walter may chip in a week or two here or there. Week 9 may be a challenge, but many teams could be in the same boat. Based on overall depth: GRADE: B+.
TEs
Heap 8, 63, 55
EJohnson 4, 162, 144
Martin 9, 319, 259
I see these guys as 3 clear starters all with a very good shot at 40+ receptions. IMO, this is the strongest group of TEs in the league--even better than LHUCKS with Gates. GRADE: A.
PKs
JReed 6, 255, 267
Longwell 5, 258, 268
They're kickers. With different bye weeks. And they should not lose their jobs. Nothing exciting here. GRADE: C.
DEF/ST
Jets 10, 223, 223
Texans 10, 287, 266
I think the Jets defense will be much improved this year and should rank in the Top 15 or so. Houston has made some steps to bolster their D, but I'm not expecting them to be anything to write home about. Their bye weeks, of course, had to be the same. GRADE: C-.
OVERALL
I think I did a decent job with some late additions that should see more playing time and more production than many are expected. IMO, you are better off taking guys slated to see action than those that have to vault up the depth chart and hopefully will contribute. The Taylor/ADP situation may have a profound effect on my team (as will Norwood/Dunn in ATL). While they may not be sexy picks, the group of WRs and TEs should do very well. Obviously not a lot was invested in PK or DEF, so I don't expect much out of them. I don't know if overall this team is strong enough to win, but it should be solid enough to early on NOT be the lowest scorer each week. TEAM GRADE: B/B+ (Score of 87).
bostonfred
Footballguy
QB
Matt Hasselbeck
Phillip Rivers
Still happy with this. Hasselbeck's stock may drop a bit without Jackson, but he's still a solid QB1. Rivers added Craig Davis at the end of the first. Two good QBs.
RB
Travis Henry
Willis McGahee
Deshaun Foster
Henry looks safe after Denver drafted an offensive lineman and three defensive linemen with their first four picks. McGahee looks improved with Baltimore drafting the best guard in the class and another guard in the third. And Foster looks as safe as he'll ever look, with Carolina passing on RBs altogether. Still very happy with my backs.
WR
Laveranus Coles
Mark Clayton
Eric Parker
Peerless Price
Jabar Gaffney
Dennis Northcutt
Bobby Engram
Jeff Webb
Kelley Washington
Coles and Clayton emerge from the draft unscathed. My last pick was either going to be Marcus Robinson or Kelley Washington. At this point, I kind of wish I'd taken Robinson, even though it looks like he'll be the #4 in Detroit. Gaffney/Washington both took a major hit with the Moss trade. Eric Parker may dip a bit with the addition of Craig Davis, although I think he's still decent. Northcutt still looks to be the slot receiver in Jacksonville, and should put up OK numbers once in a while. Peerless Price appears to have solidified his status with Buffalo passing on WR altogether. Engram's value goes up with the trade of Darrell Jackson; I think he became a good value here. Jeff Webb's value dips with the selection of Dwayne Bowe by KC, but he was strictly a flier anyways. This squad is still the weakness of my team, but I don't think it looks much different than it did before draft day - a couple of my shots in the dark (Price and Northcutt) kept their jobs, another (Engram) improved, while a couple others (Webb, Gaffney, Washington) didn't.
TE
LJ Smith
Marcus Pollard
Philadelphia didn't go after a WR or a TE. That's good news for Smith. Seattle didn't go after a WR or TE either, and lost one of their possession targets. That's better news for Pollard. Happy about this.
K
Jeff Wilkins
Jason Hanson
Both teams improved their offenses in the draft. Looks good to me.
D
New England
Baltimore
New England drafted a safety, but I was hoping they'd take two defensive players. Baltimore didn't address defense in the draft at all, but with two guards and a fullback, seems to be building around McGahee. That might be good news. Overall I'm still high on both of these defenses.
Matt Hasselbeck
Phillip Rivers
Still happy with this. Hasselbeck's stock may drop a bit without Jackson, but he's still a solid QB1. Rivers added Craig Davis at the end of the first. Two good QBs.
RB
Travis Henry
Willis McGahee
Deshaun Foster
Henry looks safe after Denver drafted an offensive lineman and three defensive linemen with their first four picks. McGahee looks improved with Baltimore drafting the best guard in the class and another guard in the third. And Foster looks as safe as he'll ever look, with Carolina passing on RBs altogether. Still very happy with my backs.
WR
Laveranus Coles
Mark Clayton
Eric Parker
Peerless Price
Jabar Gaffney
Dennis Northcutt
Bobby Engram
Jeff Webb
Kelley Washington
Coles and Clayton emerge from the draft unscathed. My last pick was either going to be Marcus Robinson or Kelley Washington. At this point, I kind of wish I'd taken Robinson, even though it looks like he'll be the #4 in Detroit. Gaffney/Washington both took a major hit with the Moss trade. Eric Parker may dip a bit with the addition of Craig Davis, although I think he's still decent. Northcutt still looks to be the slot receiver in Jacksonville, and should put up OK numbers once in a while. Peerless Price appears to have solidified his status with Buffalo passing on WR altogether. Engram's value goes up with the trade of Darrell Jackson; I think he became a good value here. Jeff Webb's value dips with the selection of Dwayne Bowe by KC, but he was strictly a flier anyways. This squad is still the weakness of my team, but I don't think it looks much different than it did before draft day - a couple of my shots in the dark (Price and Northcutt) kept their jobs, another (Engram) improved, while a couple others (Webb, Gaffney, Washington) didn't.
TE
LJ Smith
Marcus Pollard
Philadelphia didn't go after a WR or a TE. That's good news for Smith. Seattle didn't go after a WR or TE either, and lost one of their possession targets. That's better news for Pollard. Happy about this.
K
Jeff Wilkins
Jason Hanson
Both teams improved their offenses in the draft. Looks good to me.
D
New England
Baltimore
New England drafted a safety, but I was hoping they'd take two defensive players. Baltimore didn't address defense in the draft at all, but with two guards and a fullback, seems to be building around McGahee. That might be good news. Overall I'm still high on both of these defenses.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
BASSNBREW - Draft Slot #3
QBs
Leinart 8, 99, 87
Leftwich 4, 126, 136
A lot will depend on how you well you think these guys will do. Even with Bolding and Fitz in the fold, I look for ARI to run A LOT this year. I saw somewhere that they were hoping to get 500-550 rushing attempts. That would not leave a lot of plays left for passes, but I doubt that the Cards are good enough to pull a Steelers 3 yards and a cloud of dust approach to game management. THe Jags have always seemed to be on the verge of putting up decent passing numbers but something always happens and it hasn't materialized yet. There were a bottom 10 passing team last year and only slightly better the years before. Others may rate this pair higher than I would. GRADE: B-/C+.
RBs
LJohnson 8, 3, 3
LJordan 5, 62, 75
TBell 6, 94, 104
Booker 9, 190, 158
Johnson should be a stud again, but I have a feeling he won't do as well as last year with an evolving OL and a slightly reduced workload. We've discussed Jordan in the other thread and I still think he will be sharing the workload a lot more than in 2005. I'm undecided on Bell, as it appears that his value will be high as long as KJones is banged up and a lot lower otherwise. Booker did not really end up in a great situation. Other than Johnson, I don't see a full time starter at RB (although Jordan and Bell may have games where they see a lot of work). Johnson alone could be enough if he stays healthy and the OL holds up. GRADE: B+.
WRsRoy Williams 6, 30, 30
Walker 6, 35, 38
Stallworth 10, 67, 71
Booker 9, 158, 156
Randle El 4, 195, 234
NWashington 6, 259, 218
Gonzalez 6, 286, 257
As mentioned above, good set of receivers but it's still too early to annoint them as great. Roy may lose some touches to CJ, Walker should be solid, but Stallworth may lose a lot of looks to Moss. I suspect he will have some huge games and disappear in others (which is ok in this format). I'm not a huge fan of Randle El or Washington, but they may chip in on occasion. Booker is rumored to be a cap casualty in MIA and if that happens who knows where he could end up. Gonzalez could turn out to be a gift that late if he picks up the Colts' offense quickly and they go back to utilizing 3 WRs like they did a few years ago. GRADE: A-.
TEs
McMichael 9
Pope 8
Fletcher 6
Hard to guess what McMichael will do in STL given that up until now the TE spot has been pretty unproductive for the Rams. Pope and Fletcher did not do much last year. A lot of roster spots for what may not be a lot of production. GRADE: B-.
PKs
Rackers 8
Akers 5
Two solid kickers. Rackers probably won't have 2005 numbers. Akers seems to have dropped off some since several years ago, as his FG% was always in the mid-to high- 80s and the past couple years he dipped to the mid 70s. GRADE: B+.
DEF/ST
Chargers 7
Bucs 10
Chargers should again be strong. TB looked old and vulnerable last year. GRADE: B.
OVERALL
This team is pretty solid and if a QB or a RB2 emerges it could do better than I graded it. There are no real bye week issues and that should be a plus compared to some of the other teams. The top 3 WRs and LJ (the good one) could carry this team some weeks. I'm curious to see what McMichael does in STL. Overall no glaring weaknesses and if Johnson stays healthy this team could hang around. TEAM GRADE: B (Score of 85).
QBs
Leinart 8, 99, 87
Leftwich 4, 126, 136
A lot will depend on how you well you think these guys will do. Even with Bolding and Fitz in the fold, I look for ARI to run A LOT this year. I saw somewhere that they were hoping to get 500-550 rushing attempts. That would not leave a lot of plays left for passes, but I doubt that the Cards are good enough to pull a Steelers 3 yards and a cloud of dust approach to game management. THe Jags have always seemed to be on the verge of putting up decent passing numbers but something always happens and it hasn't materialized yet. There were a bottom 10 passing team last year and only slightly better the years before. Others may rate this pair higher than I would. GRADE: B-/C+.
RBs
LJohnson 8, 3, 3
LJordan 5, 62, 75
TBell 6, 94, 104
Booker 9, 190, 158
Johnson should be a stud again, but I have a feeling he won't do as well as last year with an evolving OL and a slightly reduced workload. We've discussed Jordan in the other thread and I still think he will be sharing the workload a lot more than in 2005. I'm undecided on Bell, as it appears that his value will be high as long as KJones is banged up and a lot lower otherwise. Booker did not really end up in a great situation. Other than Johnson, I don't see a full time starter at RB (although Jordan and Bell may have games where they see a lot of work). Johnson alone could be enough if he stays healthy and the OL holds up. GRADE: B+.
WRsRoy Williams 6, 30, 30
Walker 6, 35, 38
Stallworth 10, 67, 71
Booker 9, 158, 156
Randle El 4, 195, 234
NWashington 6, 259, 218
Gonzalez 6, 286, 257
As mentioned above, good set of receivers but it's still too early to annoint them as great. Roy may lose some touches to CJ, Walker should be solid, but Stallworth may lose a lot of looks to Moss. I suspect he will have some huge games and disappear in others (which is ok in this format). I'm not a huge fan of Randle El or Washington, but they may chip in on occasion. Booker is rumored to be a cap casualty in MIA and if that happens who knows where he could end up. Gonzalez could turn out to be a gift that late if he picks up the Colts' offense quickly and they go back to utilizing 3 WRs like they did a few years ago. GRADE: A-.
TEs
McMichael 9
Pope 8
Fletcher 6
Hard to guess what McMichael will do in STL given that up until now the TE spot has been pretty unproductive for the Rams. Pope and Fletcher did not do much last year. A lot of roster spots for what may not be a lot of production. GRADE: B-.
PKs
Rackers 8
Akers 5
Two solid kickers. Rackers probably won't have 2005 numbers. Akers seems to have dropped off some since several years ago, as his FG% was always in the mid-to high- 80s and the past couple years he dipped to the mid 70s. GRADE: B+.
DEF/ST
Chargers 7
Bucs 10
Chargers should again be strong. TB looked old and vulnerable last year. GRADE: B.
OVERALL
This team is pretty solid and if a QB or a RB2 emerges it could do better than I graded it. There are no real bye week issues and that should be a plus compared to some of the other teams. The top 3 WRs and LJ (the good one) could carry this team some weeks. I'm curious to see what McMichael does in STL. Overall no glaring weaknesses and if Johnson stays healthy this team could hang around. TEAM GRADE: B (Score of 85).
jeter23
Footballguy
Thanks, luck for the most part. I did like him pre-draft. Now I like him a bit more.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
TWILIGHT - Draft Slot #4
QBs
Romo 8, 93, 89
Schaub 10, 125, 123
I think Romo will be closer to the guy that ended the year than the guy who was red hot for a month and I see the Boys running a lot next year. Schaub might be better than Carr but he still should be running for his life. GRADE: B-/C+.
RBs
Gore 6, 4, 5
White 4, 100, 98
RWilliams 9, 157, 143
APittman 4, 260, 209
Dayne 10, 292, 240
Gore should again rack up a ton of yards. White probably gets more looks now that Turner will not be coming to town. Who knows where Williams will be playing and what role he will serve. Pittman's value bottomed out going to NO. Dayne might become a short yardage specialist but likely won't get many yards. Like the other teams before this one, having a true RB stud alone can be enough at the RB position. GRADE: B+.
WRs
Boldin 8, 29, 31
Branch 8, 61, 77
Galloway 10, 68, 76
Jarrett 7, 164, 174
McDonald 6, 196, 258
Wilford 4, 253, 282
SSmith 9, 285, 290
RDavis 9, 317, 360
Boldin is top notch provided the Cardinals don't run the ball extensively. Branch may finally get his chance to be a WR1. Galloway will be 36 and you have to wonder how long he can keep it up. Jarrett may eventually take over for Keyshawn but maybe not this year. McDonald seems pretty far down the depth chart but may have a few decent games. Who knows if anyone will emerge in JAX. If Toomer is out longer than extended SMith may get a chance. Davis should have weeks were he scores in this format as he is a better Survivor prospect than a redraft prospect. Overall, the top 3 are solid and the bottom guys all seem like they will are good bets to throw up a couple good weeks. GRADE: B+.
TEs
Gonzalez 8, 36, 45
HMiller 6, 132, 141
Tony G remains the best receiving option in KC. Miller slipped a little last year but should still be a top 15 TE. GRADE: A-.
PKs
Kaeding 7
Only one kicker may not make a difference but would have perferred another. Not sure who was available at the time but may have taken a kicker over Davis at WR. Who knows what happens to the SD offense with an entire new staff. GRADE: B-.
DEF/ST
Broncos 6, 189, 198
Titans 4, 228, 241
DEN is normally a Top 10 D. I'm not sold on the Titans but they may not be called upon much. GRADE: B-.
OVERALL
Twilight normally fields a very competitive team and may be in the running to repeat his title. If Romo plays like he did early last year the QB position may chip in more than I expect. Another team that with an emerging RB2 may be around for a long time. No real weaknesses, only minor bye week issues, and another solid team. TEAM GRADE: B/B+ (Score of 86).
QBs
Romo 8, 93, 89
Schaub 10, 125, 123
I think Romo will be closer to the guy that ended the year than the guy who was red hot for a month and I see the Boys running a lot next year. Schaub might be better than Carr but he still should be running for his life. GRADE: B-/C+.
RBs
Gore 6, 4, 5
White 4, 100, 98
RWilliams 9, 157, 143
APittman 4, 260, 209
Dayne 10, 292, 240
Gore should again rack up a ton of yards. White probably gets more looks now that Turner will not be coming to town. Who knows where Williams will be playing and what role he will serve. Pittman's value bottomed out going to NO. Dayne might become a short yardage specialist but likely won't get many yards. Like the other teams before this one, having a true RB stud alone can be enough at the RB position. GRADE: B+.
WRs
Boldin 8, 29, 31
Branch 8, 61, 77
Galloway 10, 68, 76
Jarrett 7, 164, 174
McDonald 6, 196, 258
Wilford 4, 253, 282
SSmith 9, 285, 290
RDavis 9, 317, 360
Boldin is top notch provided the Cardinals don't run the ball extensively. Branch may finally get his chance to be a WR1. Galloway will be 36 and you have to wonder how long he can keep it up. Jarrett may eventually take over for Keyshawn but maybe not this year. McDonald seems pretty far down the depth chart but may have a few decent games. Who knows if anyone will emerge in JAX. If Toomer is out longer than extended SMith may get a chance. Davis should have weeks were he scores in this format as he is a better Survivor prospect than a redraft prospect. Overall, the top 3 are solid and the bottom guys all seem like they will are good bets to throw up a couple good weeks. GRADE: B+.
TEs
Gonzalez 8, 36, 45
HMiller 6, 132, 141
Tony G remains the best receiving option in KC. Miller slipped a little last year but should still be a top 15 TE. GRADE: A-.
PKs
Kaeding 7
Only one kicker may not make a difference but would have perferred another. Not sure who was available at the time but may have taken a kicker over Davis at WR. Who knows what happens to the SD offense with an entire new staff. GRADE: B-.
DEF/ST
Broncos 6, 189, 198
Titans 4, 228, 241
DEN is normally a Top 10 D. I'm not sold on the Titans but they may not be called upon much. GRADE: B-.
OVERALL
Twilight normally fields a very competitive team and may be in the running to repeat his title. If Romo plays like he did early last year the QB position may chip in more than I expect. Another team that with an emerging RB2 may be around for a long time. No real weaknesses, only minor bye week issues, and another solid team. TEAM GRADE: B/B+ (Score of 86).
