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This team is starting to look like a police station with all the donut eating.

This team is starting to look like a police station with all the donut eating.
I'm going to be posting the sign up for it in five minutes.rads can you please bump the thread with your new league proposal?vaguely remember it
Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
I think fairness is what this contest is about.That sounds chaotic to me. Not that the idea isn't original though, I just don't see the strategy in that type of game. You could get screwed and get the last pick every round. How is that fair?Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
I did a redraft league before where you re-picked draft order after every two rounds, kinda funI think fairness is what this contest is about.That sounds chaotic to me. Not that the idea isn't original though, I just don't see the strategy in that type of game. You could get screwed and get the last pick every round. How is that fair?Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
that would be cool as hellCouldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
Personally, I have fared well from any draft spot and generally have no complaints even drafting last. Yes, it's a decided disadvantage to overcome but throughout the course of the draft you still have access to all but the top 11-15 guys off the board (depending on league size). last year, I was in a true "experts" league with fantasy guys from KFFL, FoxSports, CBSSportsline, The Sporting News, etc. and picked last and came about 3 points short of winning the title. The trick is geting value from all of your picks and identifying sleepers that pan out. I ended up having a decent team which included Vick, Westbrook, Addai, Driver, Cotchery, Crumpler, the Ravens D, and some other players that did pretty well.IIRC, I was the last team out in TLSL last year drafting from the 12 spot. An early draft slot does not automatically mean you end up with a winning team and a late draft slot doesn't spell doom and gloom either. I'd be potentially interst to try your league and just slot me in at the #16 pick just to show people that you can still do well even with a lousy draft slot.I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
I don't disagree with you whatsoever. In fact, I imagine there might be a few people that won't end up bidding for a few of the spots. In which case, we may have to roll a die to settle ties of 0.00 bids. I'm actually trying to discount the early pick advantage. Or I hope to. But, I'd like to see how much others think the LT2 (as well as others) advantage is worth. You're welcome to join even if you have no intent of bidding anything at all.Personally, I have fared well from any draft spot and generally have no complaints even drafting last. Yes, it's a decided disadvantage to overcome but throughout the course of the draft you still have access to all but the top 11-15 guys off the board (depending on league size). last year, I was in a true "experts" league with fantasy guys from KFFL, FoxSports, CBSSportsline, The Sporting News, etc. and picked last and came about 3 points short of winning the title. The trick is geting value from all of your picks and identifying sleepers that pan out. I ended up having a decent team which included Vick, Westbrook, Addai, Driver, Cotchery, Crumpler, the Ravens D, and some other players that did pretty well.IIRC, I was the last team out in TLSL last year drafting from the 12 spot. An early draft slot does not automatically mean you end up with a winning team and a late draft slot doesn't spell doom and gloom either. I'd be potentially interst to try your league and just slot me in at the #16 pick just to show people that you can still do well even with a lousy draft slot.I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
I don't think the 16th pick, particularly this year, is the worst spot. Being stuck between 11-14 is really the ugly position, IMO.Personally, I have fared well from any draft spot and generally have no complaints even drafting last. Yes, it's a decided disadvantage to overcome but throughout the course of the draft you still have access to all but the top 11-15 guys off the board (depending on league size). last year, I was in a true "experts" league with fantasy guys from KFFL, FoxSports, CBSSportsline, The Sporting News, etc. and picked last and came about 3 points short of winning the title. The trick is geting value from all of your picks and identifying sleepers that pan out. I ended up having a decent team which included Vick, Westbrook, Addai, Driver, Cotchery, Crumpler, the Ravens D, and some other players that did pretty well.IIRC, I was the last team out in TLSL last year drafting from the 12 spot. An early draft slot does not automatically mean you end up with a winning team and a late draft slot doesn't spell doom and gloom either. I'd be potentially interst to try your league and just slot me in at the #16 pick just to show people that you can still do well even with a lousy draft slot.I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
From what I've seen it's not a rising tide, just your skills decaying.To be honest of the teams I've seen I haven't seen an F or D...we've been doing these for several years now and everybody understands how to draft for this format. When we first started drafting I was pretty much the only one going 8 deep at WR and 4 deep at RB, now it's what everybody tries to do. Everybody knows when the runs are coming and everybody knows each others tendencies. All of that levels the playing field and and the best teams should really be the teams that draft 1-5...because they get the huge advantage of safe, high scoring RBs in addition to 3 of the top 38 players.IMHO, we need to change the format. I have plenty of ideas as I've been thinking about it for a while now.I agree with this. There were plenty of people that failed out of the school I went to. I also concur with the much stricter grading scale. Better to be a Simon and be a bit more critical and learn something, than be a Paula and give each other reach arounds.
VeryPersonally, I have fared well from any draft spot and generally have no complaints even drafting last. Yes, it's a decided disadvantage to overcome but throughout the course of the draft you still have access to all but the top 11-15 guys off the board (depending on league size). last year, I was in a true "experts" league with fantasy guys from KFFL, FoxSports, CBSSportsline, The Sporting News, etc. and picked last and came about 3 points short of winning the title. The trick is geting value from all of your picks and identifying sleepers that pan out. I ended up having a decent team which included Vick, Westbrook, Addai, Driver, Cotchery, Crumpler, the Ravens D, and some other players that did pretty well.IIRC, I was the last team out in TLSL last year drafting from the 12 spot. An early draft slot does not automatically mean you end up with a winning team and a late draft slot doesn't spell doom and gloom either. I'd be potentially interst to try your league and just slot me in at the #16 pick just to show people that you can still do well even with a lousy draft slot.I really like that idea, but I'm trying to gauge the perceived differential of values by draft position. The person bidding on the first selection also is bidding on the fact that he'll have 3 picks in the top 33.David, if you want to start another league that works like this, count me in. Feel free to jump into this one as well.Couldn't we also have random die rolls PER ROUND to determine which draft slot we would each get? There would also be an element of risk in that you would never know how to plan for you next pick and how long a wiat there would be between picks.radballs said:
From what I've seen it's not a rising tide, just your skills decaying.To be honest of the teams I've seen I haven't seen an F or D...we've been doing these for several years now and everybody understands how to draft for this format. When we first started drafting I was pretty much the only one going 8 deep at WR and 4 deep at RB, now it's what everybody tries to do. Everybody knows when the runs are coming and everybody knows each others tendencies. All of that levels the playing field and and the best teams should really be the teams that draft 1-5...because they get the huge advantage of safe, high scoring RBs in addition to 3 of the top 38 players.IMHO, we need to change the format. I have plenty of ideas as I've been thinking about it for a while now.I agree with this. There were plenty of people that failed out of the school I went to. I also concur with the much stricter grading scale. Better to be a Simon and be a bit more critical and learn something, than be a Paula and give each other reach arounds.
Yo Pimpin'...thanks for the Gonzalez pick (although do better on the bye next time). My WRs are gonna throw down some huge numbers.QB: Leinart 8, Lefwich 4 I like Leinart with the weapons he has and see a QB12 finish with a high deviation in scoring. Leftwich has been a very good fantasy producer when he plays. Grade CRB: LJ 8, Jordan 5, Bell 6, Booker 9LJ counts for 1.5 RBs. My success will hinge on every Jordan or Bell hitting. Pretty confident in Jordan, not so much in Bell. Hoping Booker = 2006 MJD later in the year. Grade BWR: ROY 6, Walker 6, Stallworth 10, Booker 9, Randle El 4, Washington 6, Gonzalez 6My top 2 are WR1's in this league and I expected one or both to be knocking at top 5 numbers. Stallworth and Booker frequently post huge weeks, El and Washington an occasional huge week. Gonzalez is probably a warm body. Grade ATE: McMichael 9, Pope 8, Fletcher 6Three guys on high scoring offenses. Wouldn't mind seeing Fletcher in the slot this year with Stokley gone. Grade DD: SD 7, Tampa 10 Grade BK: Rackers 8, Akers 5 Grade BCertainly not a favorite to win, but definately a lot of upside with this squad. This is the type of group that could either flame out early or be winning immunity on a weekly basis later in the year.
Still too early to tell about your WRs. Pats are still in the running for Moss which would hurt Stallworth. Booker rumored to be cut in MIA. CJ could eat into Roy's #s. Gonzalez was a nice compliment as it turns out, but who knows what he'll do as a rookie. This WR corp is good . . . but I don't think they got more a ton more valuable since the PDSL draft.BassNBrew said:Yo Pimpin'...thanks for the Gonzalez pick (although do better on the bye next time). My WRs are gonna throw down some huge numbers.QB: Leinart 8, Lefwich 4 I like Leinart with the weapons he has and see a QB12 finish with a high deviation in scoring. Leftwich has been a very good fantasy producer when he plays. Grade CRB: LJ 8, Jordan 5, Bell 6, Booker 9LJ counts for 1.5 RBs. My success will hinge on every Jordan or Bell hitting. Pretty confident in Jordan, not so much in Bell. Hoping Booker = 2006 MJD later in the year. Grade BWR: ROY 6, Walker 6, Stallworth 10, Booker 9, Randle El 4, Washington 6, Gonzalez 6My top 2 are WR1's in this league and I expected one or both to be knocking at top 5 numbers. Stallworth and Booker frequently post huge weeks, El and Washington an occasional huge week. Gonzalez is probably a warm body. Grade ATE: McMichael 9, Pope 8, Fletcher 6Three guys on high scoring offenses. Wouldn't mind seeing Fletcher in the slot this year with Stokley gone. Grade DD: SD 7, Tampa 10 Grade BK: Rackers 8, Akers 5 Grade BCertainly not a favorite to win, but definately a lot of upside with this squad. This is the type of group that could either flame out early or be winning immunity on a weekly basis later in the year.
QB- With Minny passing on Quinn and other QBs, I am much happier with that spot. A+RB- Took some chances with 3 rookie RBs and hit on 2 of them, especially Jackson in the 19th round. Ajeter23
PDSL 1
9th pick
QB
2.08 Peyton Manning (6)
10.08 Tarvaris Jackson (5)
I was not planning on taking a QB as early as I did, but there was no RB that I really wanted at that spot and I felt Manning was good value. The QB run in the mid rounds certainly hurt my backup. Of course, having Manning makes that less of an issue.
A- (if Jackson starts for Minny)
B (if Jackson does not start)
RB
1.09 Joseph Addai (6)
3.09 Duece McAllister (4)
4.08 Adrian Peterson
13.09 Kenny Irons
19.09 Brandon Jackson
This is certainly a young group other than Duece, but I am still very happy with my depth. If Irons or Jackson end up getting a decent amount of playing time, this should be the best group in the league.
A
WR
5.09 Jerricho Cotchery (10)
7.09 Santonio Holmes (6)
8.08 Greg Jennings (7)
11.08 Dwayne Bowe
14.08 Robert Meachem
18.08 Roddy White (8)
20.08 Malcolm Floyd (7)
Going with Manning early and having depth at RB cost me big time at WR. After getting my first three WRs, I really planned to take a vet, but I got sniped several times. I ended up with too many rookies and guys that might not see a lot of time. It is possible that I have only one starting WR.
C-
TE
6.08 Ben Watson (10)
12.08 Marcedes Lewis (4)
I have never been one that was high on Watson and I know he disappointed a lot of us last year. After suffering at WR, i decided to get as many top players at the "other" positions. I chose Watson over a lower tier WR.
B
Kicker
15.09 Matt Stover (8)
17.09 Matt Bryant (10)
I waited a round too late on a kicker, but was still happy to get Stover in the middle of the big run. I also was one of the last to get my 2nd kicker, but as long as Bryant has a job, I will be happy.
B-
Defense
9.07 Chicago (9)
16.08 Buffalo (6)
Getting the Bears early followed along with my hope of getting some of the top players at the other spots (other than RB and WR). I didn't really start a run, but I wouldn't have gotten them or Baltimore with my next pick. I doubt Buffalo is as good as they have been recently, but they will work fine as a Def2 for me.
A+
Overall-
I think I ended up with way too many rookies and 2nd year players on my team. This may end up being a good thing, but it is way too early to tell. There is some definite upside on this team, but that is a bad word this time of year.
B
Actually the prospect of CJ was why I drafted ROY. I think this will help free up ROY. Martz has previously shown that three WRs on his team can be fantasy impact players.I'm also all for the washed up decoy coming to NE. Moss can draw the double coverage and Stallworth can run free on the other side. He won't put up huge reception totals, but the frequent 15+ point days will be great for this format.Still too early to tell about your WRs. Pats are still in the running for Moss which would hurt Stallworth. Booker rumored to be cut in MIA. CJ could eat into Roy's #s. Gonzalez was a nice compliment as it turns out, but who knows what he'll do as a rookie. This WR corp is good . . . but I don't think they got more a ton more valuable since the PDSL draft.
Thanks, luck for the most part. I did like him pre-draft. Now I like him a bit more.Nice score with Jackson Jeter...