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kneeunthaface

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Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?

Who else has this happened to?

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :kicksrock:
 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
Yes, you are overreacting. I've had 2 drafts so far and neither draft had all the owners present. Commish had to call an owner to pick each round. It's a little bit of a pain, but not that big of a deal. Sometimes life gets in the way of fantasy. Go figure!Edited to make more sense.
 
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well over the years we have had guys move to another state and stay in the league ...so when we drafted they did it over the phone on speaker...another time a guy used his computer and the commish sent him each pick as it happened. Last year the commish actually picked players for a guy who couldnt make ...just picked the best available player on the board. Yes it kinda sucks but it is life and real life comes first,kids ,family,work...wharever.

 
I drafted Sunday evening where only 13 of 14 teams were registered and several were from overseas so they were on auto draft. What does a league do with 13 teams? Is there an option besides redrafting? It's a free league so there isn't a financial stake here. If one team were to drop out and bring the league down to 12 would you just put the players from the abandoned team back into the pool?

Any thoughts here?

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :goodposting:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
 
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Hey - at least you had some notice. We thought we had 12 teams this season and the day of the draft - 2 guys failed to show. We ended up going with 10 teams. It really sucks because they didn't call or anything. Plus it screws up your entire draft plan

In our other league the commish is having a problem getting all 10 guys together for the draft. It amazes me how many guys want to play fantasy football but can't seem to find time in their schedule to have a draft. :goodposting:

 
I drafted Sunday evening where only 13 of 14 teams were registered and several were from overseas so they were on auto draft. What does a league do with 13 teams? Is there an option besides redrafting? It's a free league so there isn't a financial stake here. If one team were to drop out and bring the league down to 12 would you just put the players from the abandoned team back into the pool?Any thoughts here?
we had a guy drop out 2 days before the draft and couldnt find a replacement...we just set up the weekly schudule for double headers every week...worked pretty good...you get to play against 2 teams every week..so u split,lose 2 or win 2
 
75% of my league is out of town 9/12 months of the year.

This year I setup an ongoing live draft on CBS because last year I had to draft for one of the owners (which I agree kills the integrity of the league).

Our draft has been going on for almost a week now and we are in the 8th round...

I would consider yourself lucky since the owners at least gave you a heads up and you can figure something out in the meantime.

 
Life intervenes, but there are also alternative ways to conducting a draft than just live. Make do.

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :popcorn:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :popcorn:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
Yeah, and people on a FF messageboard understand how unimportant a measily FF draft is. :hot:Like I said, if there is a way to contact them by phone, it probably is no big deal. However, if people are SOL this is no different than flaking out in any other circumstance when you've made a comittment and people are counting on you, such as not showing up to a softball game when the 8 other guys wasted their own important time to do so. I somewhat doubt multiple people in this guy's league were having surgeries.
 
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I think you have a right to be pissed, unless these guys were called into emergency surgery or something. You make a commitment to make the draft and then you back out? You're not welcome next year.

Scheduling this year's draft was a major pain in the ###. We basically have our draft the Saturday before Labor Day Weekend each year. Well, now I've learned I have to put that on the calendar a year in advance. This year, all I heard from everyone was, "I'm out of town", "I've got a hockey game", "I can't do Saturdays", etc...Guys we do the same damn day every year, mark it down and don't freakin' schedule anything.

We ended up doing it on Friday night, but we had 5 owners drafting on-line with the rest in person. But even then, a few guys were a couple rounds late, so we had to call them on the phone for their first couple of picks.

Does it work? Sure, you can make it work. Is it a pain in the ###? Yes, it's a huge pain in the ###. I just want to sit back and drink my beer without worrying about who I have to call, or whether someone's internet connection dropped (which it did several times for one guy).

Our draft used to be about sitting around for a Saturday, drinking beer and talking football. Now, everyone's worried about some other crap. Is fantasy football life or death? No, but if you can't make the commitment one day out of 365, then I don't want you in the league.

/rant]

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :kicksrock:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
yeah - imagine complaining about it in a FANTASY FOOTBALL forum. :rolleyes:
 
We had 3 owners out of 10 not show up for this year's draft. Only one had a legit excuse (he was sick). The other 2 will not be invited back next year. One guy chose to play softball instead. We schedule our draft at least 6 weeks in advance on a date everyone agrees to. If it's not important enough for you to block out a few hours then you probably aren't that interested in playing anyway.

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :blackdot:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
What an insensitive jerk. C'mon, you can't relate to the disappointment that someone might have for last minute cancellations of a planned event. What difference does it make whether you think It's important or not as long as it is important to the person planning the event or attending the event.Sorry, I'll let you get back to saving the world.
 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :rolleyes:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
:blackdot: Basically, its a few hours out of the year to draft and makes for the whole year. People should show up aside from an emergency. I would not want to be in a league where people flake out, even though it does happen.
 
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I think you have a right to be pissed, unless these guys were called into emergency surgery or something. You make a commitment to make the draft and then you back out? You're not welcome next year.Scheduling this year's draft was a major pain in the ###. We basically have our draft the Saturday before Labor Day Weekend each year. Well, now I've learned I have to put that on the calendar a year in advance. This year, all I heard from everyone was, "I'm out of town", "I've got a hockey game", "I can't do Saturdays", etc...Guys we do the same damn day every year, mark it down and don't freakin' schedule anything.We ended up doing it on Friday night, but we had 5 owners drafting on-line with the rest in person. But even then, a few guys were a couple rounds late, so we had to call them on the phone for their first couple of picks. Does it work? Sure, you can make it work. Is it a pain in the ###? Yes, it's a huge pain in the ###. I just want to sit back and drink my beer without worrying about who I have to call, or whether someone's internet connection dropped (which it did several times for one guy).Our draft used to be about sitting around for a Saturday, drinking beer and talking football. Now, everyone's worried about some other crap. Is fantasy football life or death? No, but if you can't make the commitment one day out of 365, then I don't want you in the league./rant]
I'm with you on this. I actually am surprised at the number of people (commissioners I assume) who have leagues where owners don't show up. Commissioning going on ten years now, one local and one online, and it's made clear to the local owners that if you fail to show you won't be playing, period. Didn't have a problem until this year, this past Saturday, when one owner thought the draft was on Sunday. We held the draft about 45 minutes. No big deal, but I guess I'm fortunate to have owners and friends who realize that yes, it's just a game and a hobby, but also that it's a commitment like any other. It's put on their calendars and planned for like any other holiday.
 
We expanded from 10 to 12 this past year. One of the guys we added was from out of state and I took a couple owners word that he was a stand up guy. As the draft grew closer talk of him having to work during the draft came up. It was going to be ok because we'd call him and he'd have his cheatsheets handy to draft.

We do an all day live Sunday draft. At 2am he sends a text message to our commish at the end of our annual poker night; "Sorry to duff, but I'm not going to be able to help tomorrow. I quit."

So I had less than 7 hours to fix the problem. I posted in the "Looking for a League" thread on FBG's and had a couple excellent people willing to stand in.

Solutions are available, you just have to be diligent. Call who you know. Call friends of friends. I know if someone called and wanted me to draft live tonight I'd be there. We're addicts. We just have to find each other. :thumbdown:

 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It sucks. But any commish who's been doing this for a while has a back-up plan. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people like dagwood who act like it's insignificant.
 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :lmao:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
What an insensitive jerk. C'mon, you can't relate to the disappointment that someone might have for last minute cancellations of a planned event. What difference does it make whether you think It's important or not as long as it is important to the person planning the event or attending the event.Sorry, I'll let you get back to saving the world.
Dude...I have been playing FF for a long time...had several drafts where we had people not show up...some gave notice, some didn't...I was commish in some of those situations....we got by.....the draft went on.....the season went on...people had fun....sometimes the offenders were not invited back....sometimes they were....Breathe Deep.....it will be ok....jeebus... :rolleyes:
 
What really sucks is when you lose to the no-show during the season or better yet their auto-drafted team wins the championship. :lmao:

 
What really sucks is when you lose to the no-show during the season or better yet their auto-drafted team wins the championship. :lmao:
Yep...or the no shows team actually makes the playoffs.....unbelievable....that's when you know luck plays a HUGE role in FF success...
 
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It sucks. But any commish who's been doing this for a while has a back-up plan. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people like dagwood who act like it's insignificant.
:lmao:
 
I drafted Sunday evening where only 13 of 14 teams were registered and several were from overseas so they were on auto draft. What does a league do with 13 teams? Is there an option besides redrafting? It's a free league so there isn't a financial stake here. If one team were to drop out and bring the league down to 12 would you just put the players from the abandoned team back into the pool?Any thoughts here?
We had a similar problem a few years back... we just threw a team on the schedule named "Average Joe".... the score for that team was the combined average of all of the other teams scores...If you were better than average that week, you beat Average Joe.... I thought it worked pretty well, but it was probably 12-15 years ago, so the memory is a bit fuzzy...
 
What really sucks is when you lose to the no-show during the season or better yet their auto-drafted team wins the championship. :lmao:
Yep...or the no shows team actually makes the playoffs.....unbelievable....that's when you know luck plays a HUGE role in FF success...
I can one up you. No show in my most recent draft drew the first pick. Now he has LT. I was thinking of quitting this league for various other reasons, but decided it would be tacky to quit since I won it last season. I think it will be my last season in that league, unless I win again of course. The first pick for a no show was just the last straw, there were several other reasons that I was considering dropping that league.
 
What really sucks is when you lose to the no-show during the season or better yet their auto-drafted team wins the championship. :yes:
Yep...or the no shows team actually makes the playoffs.....unbelievable....that's when you know luck plays a HUGE role in FF success...
I can one up you. No show in my most recent draft drew the first pick. Now he has LT. I was thinking of quitting this league for various other reasons, but decided it would be tacky to quit since I won it last season. I think it will be my last season in that league, unless I win again of course. The first pick for a no show was just the last straw, there were several other reasons that I was considering dropping that league.
Now THAT would piss me off....
 
In our league we simply have the draft minus the player who doesn't show. Then when the other owner shows up he can draft a team based off of what's left. That tends to discourage no shows. It really sucks to have to start Ron Dayne all year.

 
Tubalcane said:
In our league we simply have the draft minus the player who doesn't show. Then when the other owner shows up he can draft a team based off of what's left. That tends to discourage no shows. It really sucks to have to start Ron Dayne all year.
And then he quits and doesn't pay his fee if it hasn't already been collected and nobody is willing to take over a lame duck team that has no chance of winning.
 
Not showing up without notice or a valid excuse is a total lack of respect for the effort that the rest of the league made to make it to the draft and the work that the commish did to put the whole league together. It's a great test of priorities to find out who really values the friendships and the league. I completely understand that there are higher priorities other than FF (like family) but I expect people who say they're going to play and draft to follow through on their commitment. Otherwise, they don't value the opportunity and don't deserve it.

 
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I think you have a right to be pissed, unless these guys were called into emergency surgery or something. You make a commitment to make the draft and then you back out? You're not welcome next year.Scheduling this year's draft was a major pain in the ###. We basically have our draft the Saturday before Labor Day Weekend each year. Well, now I've learned I have to put that on the calendar a year in advance. This year, all I heard from everyone was, "I'm out of town", "I've got a hockey game", "I can't do Saturdays", etc...Guys we do the same damn day every year, mark it down and don't freakin' schedule anything.We ended up doing it on Friday night, but we had 5 owners drafting on-line with the rest in person. But even then, a few guys were a couple rounds late, so we had to call them on the phone for their first couple of picks. Does it work? Sure, you can make it work. Is it a pain in the ###? Yes, it's a huge pain in the ###. I just want to sit back and drink my beer without worrying about who I have to call, or whether someone's internet connection dropped (which it did several times for one guy).Our draft used to be about sitting around for a Saturday, drinking beer and talking football. Now, everyone's worried about some other crap. Is fantasy football life or death? No, but if you can't make the commitment one day out of 365, then I don't want you in the league./rant]
My league went to the Sunday before the Labor day weekend because it was to hard to get everybody together over the Labor Day weekend. It's way easier on everybody.
 
Well I will be honest..A good commish being pro-active and with good communication will take care of most of these problems. Will there occasionally be a turd that cancels last minute for a dumb reason? Yeah...but there are solutions to that. In RTS you can use league average if someone no shows. I drafted for a guy one year that bailed right before the draft and I will never do it again. I drafted a good team using FBG and this tool just #####ed. I offered him the team I drafted if he didn't like it but he still #####ed and I ended up winning the league that year. I would rather go with league average then do that again. The only exception would be a family emergency.

RTS has live drafting which works well so if they can at least get to a computer they can still draft. But to have several guys no show the night before makes me wonder.

Did the Commish speak to everyone and find a suitable time for most? I work on this at least a month before and double check to make sure it is still good a week prior to the draft. Lots of guys have kids, family, commitments etc. I usually check with these guys to determine a good date/time first. I know who is single and has a flexible schedule and who doesn't. If they can't commit to a date then you should go and find a new owner. Be honest. Tell them I need to know by this date if you can make it or I have to find someone else.

I definitely make sure I call the owners that are not logging into the site during pre-season. You can usually tell who is interested and who isn't. Usually you have sense just based on the previous season.

If people can't commit then I tell them I need to find a new owner and they can be first in line the following year ir a spot opens up.

I always say $$ is due at the draft but that if this isn't possible and you need to make arrangements then PM me. In reality sometimes $$ is the issue and I don't mind showing leniency if I feel they will pay and that is the only thing keeping them from showing up. Usually it is only one or two guys and I make sure I get the cash from them at a later date.

 
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kneeunthaface said:
Just found out yesterday that there are going to be some no shows for tonights draft. I think it sucks! It's one night out of the whole year that you have to show up for a couple hours and draft your team. I feel that the integrity of the draft/league is compromised because of this. Am I overreacting?Who else has this happened to?
It really sux when someone else's real life difficulties disrupt your fantasy football experience.... :goodposting:
Sorry, I missed the part where the OP mentioned there was a valid reason for the no-shows, and it wasn't clear that the no-shows were going to be available by phone. If they are, it's probably no big deal. However, your response seems harsh when you are ignorant as to the degree of "difficulties" and whether the draft can go on given the absentees. Frankly, the speed at which you defended absolute strangers makes you sound like the sort of person who would readily inconvenience 10 people to polish your wife/GF's nails, and then make those 10 people feel like they did something wrong for being upset about it. The OP is right to be upset if the no shows turn the draft into a hassle or even force it to be postponed. I was once delayed by 45 minutes, which was no biggie. In general though, people who can't commit to a couple hour block on a single night, when an entire league is relying upon them, stink.
You need to chill out....this is a fantasy football draft....
What an insensitive jerk. C'mon, you can't relate to the disappointment that someone might have for last minute cancellations of a planned event. What difference does it make whether you think It's important or not as long as it is important to the person planning the event or attending the event.Sorry, I'll let you get back to saving the world.
Dude...I have been playing FF for a long time...had several drafts where we had people not show up...some gave notice, some didn't...I was commish in some of those situations....we got by.....the draft went on.....the season went on...people had fun....sometimes the offenders were not invited back....sometimes they were....Breathe Deep.....it will be ok....jeebus... :goodposting:
I guess the "Be good to one another" is out the window in Mr. "I like to roll my eyes" mind. Pop a few vicodin and chill out man.
 
On first pass I really felt for the OP. No-shows can be annoying to say the least. But they should generally be because of emergency.

If a league knows a full day ahead of time that several members will be missing...I have to start questioning the sheduling.

In my leagues, I ask around and double check EVERYONE's personal schedule. If someone has a family event or wedding, we try to plan around it. If we can't, we offer the member alternatives (substitute drafter, have him make extensive personal cheetsheets, etc.) By planning the draft early, and reminding everyone often, multiple absences will be avoided.

One or two planned absences shouldn't destroy a league, and should never be held against the drafter. Several planned absences simply scream a deeper problem.

Emergencies (my kid just broke his leg!) should never be held against the drafter either. The commissioner should ALWAYS have a PUBLISHED) plan in place to handle such, and then when someone misses, he knws how his absence will be cared for.

When several guys are calling out the day before....something almost certainly went wrong in the planning stage. Did the commish chedule it one week ago based on his own personal preferances?

That said......when the draft is planned well in advance, and everyone says they'll be there, it is VERY irritating when someone doesn't. It's worse when his excuse later is..."My wife made plans for us."

 
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Missing with a good reason = annoying, but understandable. Make arrangements and move on.

Blew it off for something else = asswipe, no invite for you next year.

If someone can't make it for good reason, we skip his turn for 2 full rounds, then give him best available at the position the consensus thinks he needs at the time. SOB won the championship that year.

 
If you can't make it to the draft, you shouldn't be in a league IMO, unless you are drafting over the phone. They would be out if it were my league. You better have a wedding or death in the family, and you better have someone to come and make your picks if that is the case...

 
On first pass I really felt for the OP. No-shows can be annoying to say the least. But they should generally be because of emergency.

If a league knows a full day ahead of time that several members will be missing...I have to start questioning the sheduling.

In my leagues, I ask around and double check EVERYONE's personal schedule. If someone has a family event or wedding, we try to plan around it. If we can't, we offer the member alternatives (substitute drafter, have him make extensive personal cheetsheets, etc.) By planning the draft early, and reminding everyone often, multiple absences will be avoided.

One or two planned absences shouldn't destroy a league, and should never be held against the drafter. Several planned absences simply scream a deeper problem.

Emergencies (my kid just broke his leg!) should never be held against the drafter either. The commissioner should ALWAYS have a PUBLISHED) plan in place to handle such, and then when someone misses, he knws how his absence will be cared for.

When several guys are calling out the day before....something almost certainly went wrong in the planning stage. Did the commish chedule it one week ago based on his own personal preferances?

That said......when the draft is planned well in advance, and everyone says they'll be there, it is VERY irritating when someone doesn't. It's worse when his excuse later is..."My wife made plans for us."
My two leagues draft on the Saturday and Sunday before the 1st game of the year, everyone knows almost a year ahead of time when the next draft will be, no excuses then... :confused:
 
Some great posts in this thread.

Bottom line, as a commish, you need to have an emergency plan in place in case something happens. I had an owner once call right as we were getting ready to start and say, "My wife has asked me install tile in the kitchen today. I can't make it." I was :shrug: with him, but I could tell in his voice he was in a no-win situation. We drafted a ghost team that was later assumed by another willing owner.

When we were young and all of us single, we would start the draft at 10:00 am and drink and draft and eat and the draft usually got over at 6:00 pm or so. It was an all day event and something I actually do miss now.

Flash forward 19 years, alot of us are married with kids, and things happen. This weekend our 4 year old got sick the day of the draft and my wife, who has been a very successful owner for the past 5 years, had to miss our draft. Cell phone with speaker and her on-line at home at home using the Draft Dominator--problem solved.

Be creative and everything works out

 
Over the years it has become very clear that SOME people don't like FF as much as others

That is why you have peolpe who use FBG and some who don't.

I bet you any amount of money that any no show at the draft is not going to be the best FF owner and no owner would ever miss the draft if he was part of FBG....

:football:

 
Some great posts in this thread. Bottom line, as a commish, you need to have an emergency plan in place in case something happens. I had an owner once call right as we were getting ready to start and say, "My wife has asked me install tile in the kitchen today. I can't make it." I was :pokey: with him, but I could tell in his voice he was in a no-win situation. We drafted a ghost team that was later assumed by another willing owner.When we were young and all of us single, we would start the draft at 10:00 am and drink and draft and eat and the draft usually got over at 6:00 pm or so. It was an all day event and something I actually do miss now.Flash forward 19 years, alot of us are married with kids, and things happen. This weekend our 4 year old got sick the day of the draft and my wife, who has been a very successful owner for the past 5 years, had to miss our draft. Cell phone with speaker and her on-line at home at home using the Draft Dominator--problem solved.Be creative and everything works out
You let wives in? :whistle: jk
 
Rules help.

Here's one.

You have the right to draft your team.

You have the right to a designated drafter.

If do not afford a designated drafter, a drafter will be appointed to you.

There is no guarantees of the quality of the appointed drafter and we don't care as long as your paid.

Unpaid drafters will be replaced from alternate list.

 
This is such a touchy subject. I think each league has its own level of seriousness. I'm in several leagues and scheduling a live draft for each is a serious issue every year. I can't commit every labor day weekend to drafts. I had to decline a league because they wanted to draft on Labor Day every year.

It is up to the commish to enforce the level of seriousness in the league. If they allow people to miss without excuses then people will. If those are eliminated from the league then only serious owners will be left. I have some leagues where all owners try hard to make the draft. I have another that is a family league and I wind up drafting for teams every year because they can't make it and can't be online. One owner has never made the draft and I drafted them their fantasy bowl winning team last year.

I am looking at the same again this year so I need to come up with a Draft Dominator alternative to drafting. I may pick by ADP for them.

The best solution might be to run an online draft where they can prerank players and if they are not online it auto-picks for them. Then they can be in charge of their own players. For a last minute owner quit, I'd suggest using ADP to draft and either rotate who picks the starters or start based on predicted points from your league site. The team should not be eligible for playoffs.

 
cjack said:
I think you have a right to be pissed, unless these guys were called into emergency surgery or something. You make a commitment to make the draft and then you back out? You're not welcome next year.

Scheduling this year's draft was a major pain in the ###. We basically have our draft the Saturday before Labor Day Weekend each year. Well, now I've learned I have to put that on the calendar a year in advance. This year, all I heard from everyone was, "I'm out of town", "I've got a hockey game", "I can't do Saturdays", etc...Guys we do the same damn day every year, mark it down and don't freakin' schedule anything.

We ended up doing it on Friday night, but we had 5 owners drafting on-line with the rest in person. But even then, a few guys were a couple rounds late, so we had to call them on the phone for their first couple of picks.

Does it work? Sure, you can make it work. Is it a pain in the ###? Yes, it's a huge pain in the ###. I just want to sit back and drink my beer without worrying about who I have to call, or whether someone's internet connection dropped (which it did several times for one guy).

Our draft used to be about sitting around for a Saturday, drinking beer and talking football. Now, everyone's worried about some other crap. Is fantasy football life or death? No, but if you can't make the commitment one day out of 365, then I don't want you in the league.

/rant]
This pretty well sums it up for ours. This league has been going on 15+ years; only a few times have had to draft on remote (including me once) and it's a real pita. I've seen some of the other responses in this thread--married life vs single, family emergencies, vacation planning....the key is locking it in as a primary date. There aren't that many 'emergencies' if the planning is right. For the record--I can tell you when our draft is scheduled in 2021 with a quick calender check--it's always the Saturday before Labor Day weekend. Easy to remember and easy to schedule since the families will be planning their stuff the next week.
 
I commish a two-conference league comprised of 24 people. Everyone pays a $50 non-refundable deposit August 1st. Then they can pay the $50 balance at the draft. I've been in this league for 10 years and not one single person has ever missed a draft without notice and someone else to draft for them.

This is pretty simple: you made a commitment. How about some personal responsibility? Hey, if there's a medical emergency, that's a legitimate excuse. But many excuses are bull####.

Fantasy football isn't important to some people, so chill out, right? Screw that. You made a commitment. Don't waste people's time if you don't plan on acting like an adult and following through with your commitments.

 
One of our long-term owmers wasn't able to be there last night. He is on his honeymoon. He had a friend draft for him. No big deal. I hope he's having a great time and not worried about fantasy, well football, anyway.

 
One of our long-term owmers wasn't able to be there last night. He is on his honeymoon. He had a friend draft for him. No big deal. I hope he's having a great time and not worried about fantasy, well football, anyway.
My question to you is knowing you are the commish and that this guy is a long term owner so I know u knew his wedding was coming up, why would you not make arrangements in advance so maybe you draft a week earlier so 1 of your longtime owners could be there?? I've been commish of my league for 10 yrs now and my co-commish and co founder of the league quit the league 1 week before the draft. Not only did he quit on short notice he helped set the draft order!! He won the champioship for the 1st time last yr and now he quit. That's the kind of thing that's hard to plan for I really wanted to kick his a** What would other commish have done in this case. I should have a backup plan because 1 mos. earlier he told me that he might not be able to play because he's in a relationship now!! :goodposting: That is maybe the gayest thing I ever heard but the next day after some ribbing he said he was playing, I should have took the hint
 
This is such a touchy subject. I think each league has its own level of seriousness. I'm in several leagues and scheduling a live draft for each is a serious issue every year. I can't commit every labor day weekend to drafts. I had to decline a league because they wanted to draft on Labor Day every year.It is up to the commish to enforce the level of seriousness in the league. If they allow people to miss without excuses then people will. If those are eliminated from the league then only serious owners will be left. I have some leagues where all owners try hard to make the draft. I have another that is a family league and I wind up drafting for teams every year because they can't make it and can't be online. One owner has never made the draft and I drafted them their fantasy bowl winning team last year.I am looking at the same again this year so I need to come up with a Draft Dominator alternative to drafting. I may pick by ADP for them.The best solution might be to run an online draft where they can prerank players and if they are not online it auto-picks for them. Then they can be in charge of their own players. For a last minute owner quit, I'd suggest using ADP to draft and either rotate who picks the starters or start based on predicted points from your league site. The team should not be eligible for playoffs.
Excellent post!The Labor Day weekend thing came up in our league this year. A few years back we had a HUGE and passionate discussion as to whether we should draft as close to Week 1 as possible or whenever everyone could make it. The decision was made via consensus to have it as close to Week 1 as possible. This obviously meant Labor Day Weekend.This year, we have two owners who can't make it because of weddings (they are in the weddings). Ok, fine, legit excuse in my book. One of them will be drafting online and we actually started earlier in the day than normal so he could draft from Tahoe where the wedding is. Then my punk ### brother in law bailed because he had wine tasting this weekend. Ok, fine, we had a short list of replacements and worked it out.But I have informally polled the league in e-mail and phone convo and there is now a feeling that we should not have it on Labor Day Weekend. It was too late to have another debate and change the draft date but next year I think we will move it back 1 week.The owners in my league are pretty involved in trash talk and FA moves all year so I am going to accomidate them by moving it back. Not my preference but we are 8 years in with a nice travelling trophy and my #1 job is to keep the league together as long as everyone is involved and makes an effort to draft.As for the OP; yeah dude it sucks. Just try to work it out or have a smaller league this year with owners who are involved.***ETA*** Hey MOAT; Does Ryan Moats represent good value this year? :lmao:
 
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