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JohnnyU

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There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.

 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
Well written, but you should probably send out to your leaguemates. If they are not following year round, chances are, they are not on this site year round
 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
Well written, but you should probably send out to your leaguemates. If they are not following year round, chances are, they are not on this site year round
Doubt they would respond to his frustration anyways...this should go for any dynasty format...regular and IDP...I am in seven IDP dynasties and only four of them have owners that do absolutely nothing during the off-season...
 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :yes: :pickle: :pickle: :hifive: I'm a commish in a dynasty and couldn't say this better myself.
 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
:eek: You surprised me JohnnyU. :lmao:
 
I think this is a great point. I joined three dynasty leagues in one season. And quite honestly, I just couldn't keep up with them. Not because I wasn't interested, but because I already have massive amounts to do for the site during the "offseason" and it was just hard to make those leagues my commitment. So I stepped down from two of them, and have kept just one. I'm finding my enjoyment of the one remaining is INFINITELY higher than it used to be, and it's much easier to focus.

There's no blueprint, everyone's mileage may vary. But I do agree with JohhnyU's underlying sentiment. Which is that you not only owe it to yourself to stay active in any league, but to your leaguemates as well.

 
:goodposting: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
 
:yes: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
If this is true, I give the league 3 years before it dies.
 
:lmao: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
If this is true, I give the league 3 years before it dies.
Agreed...who is that ducking the pass in your avatar?
 
:lmao: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
If this is true, I give the league 3 years before it dies.
From Feb to the NFL draft, there just isn't that much to do. Too much uncertainty in who will be drafted where to really make any moves. And in my dynasty, our FA is closed until after the rookie draft (since FAs are draftable)
 
:thumbup: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
If this is true, I give the league 3 years before it dies.
Agreed...who is that ducking the pass in your avatar?
I think that is JJ Stokes
 
:thumbup: In the one dynasty league that I'm in there is maybe 1 other guy who researches year-round. I am not complaining, he and I are usually the ones pulling in WR2's deep in the rookie draft while everyone else is dropping guys halfway through the season because their rookies aren't performing well.
If this is true, I give the league 3 years before it dies.
Agreed...who is that ducking the pass in your avatar?
I think that is JJ Stokes
Brandon Llyod
 
I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" period...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.

 
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I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" peroid...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.
I believe for the most part that is the OP...if someone sends you a trade offer, I feel it is only polite to respond in some fashion...
 
Heavily edited to remove my irritation at coworkers that overflowed into my original post.

I do agree in a general sense about evaluating commitment to leagues though. If someone can't be active when the league is up and going, it's probably in their own best interest to cut back to a level they can handle.

But you may want to talk to your league mates about if they want to be in a league that is active year round or not. Some people's PREFERENCE is that their dynasty leagues be active year round. But there isn't anything about a league being "dynasty" that inherently implies they are year round. If someone says they play in a dynasty league all you should feel sure on is that the majority of rosters are kept from one year to another.

Plenty of people want to play dynasty but don't want to have year round activity. Nothing wrong with that, it's a preference. If it frustrates someone to be in such a league, then clarify specifically when getting owners for the league whether they are seeking a very active year round league or not. Don't assume the word "dynasty" implies that. It doesn't.

 
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I didn't mean actively picking up guys off of waivers and trading during the off-season. Our league doesn't do our rookie/ free agent drafts until June. However, usually by May you'll see a few trades here and there with people moving up a few spots in the draft. My "year round" involvement is mostly researching trades, coaching changes, and injuries. OTA is also where I do most of my research on rookies while alot of our guys just look up a few rankings on a website and go off of that. I like to read rotoworld and hear what the beat writers have to see about a particular player especially when they draft two WR's. For example, last year Robiskie went a full round ahead of Mossoaquoi when I had M.M. ranked higher based on what I had read during the OTA's. We'll have to wait and see if I was really correct, but as of right now it looks okay.

 
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If you want an active year round league, then when you form your league make that a specific point made clear to any owners who are joining so everyone is of a like mind.
You would think that should work, but from what I've seen in 3 dynasties (pretty complex incl. contracts, free agency etc.) it doesnt.
 
If you want an active year round league, then when you form your league make that a specific point made clear to any owners who are joining so everyone is of a like mind.
You would think that should work, but from what I've seen in 3 dynasties (pretty complex incl. contracts, free agency etc.) it doesnt.
Of course it won't work 100%. People's priorities change as life goes on. But it will work better than calling it just plain "dynasty" and believing that must imply year round activity.
 
Same here. I'm in leagues that over-lap some owners who are inactive in all of them. What's the fascination with being in 3 dynasty leagues when you don't bother doing a thing in any of them? At least the rest of the teams never have to worry about being last

Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :bag:
 
I normally wouldnt sign up for a new league, but if this thread could produce a No Patience for Deadbeats dynasty league I would have to consider giving it one more shot.

 
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :rolleyes:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
Ugghhh....I've drafted with this guy recently. Nearly every single pick. Then the picks he did make really weren't all that great.
 
Dynasty league bylaws should include some kind of language that requires periodic owner check-in, even if it's once a month.

 
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :rolleyes:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
Ugghhh....I've drafted with this guy recently. Nearly every single pick. Then the picks he did make really weren't all that great.
Worse than this guy?Me via email on Wed morning: "You know you've been on the clock since Monday night".Him: "No, I hadn't checked but I'll make my pick when I get home tonight. Thanks" :mellow: :wall:
 
Zoomanji said:
LionsFan78 said:
Red Herring said:
Zoomanji said:
39407 said:
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :lmao:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
Ugghhh....I've drafted with this guy recently. Nearly every single pick. Then the picks he did make really weren't all that great.
Worse than this guy?Me via email on Wed morning: "You know you've been on the clock since Monday night".Him: "No, I hadn't checked but I'll make my pick when I get home tonight. Thanks" :shrug: :lmao:
Ugh, i can't imagine a draft without a reasonable time limit. How long do you have to wait? The dynasties I'm in have a 24 hour limit; its plenty of time to make a pick and if you can't be bothered to log into the site 1/x a day during the draft, it goes on without you.
 
I don't mind people taking time off. Hell, I go a month without logging into the league site, but I'll check my e-mail once a week. We had a guy put Calvin on the block after the regular season last year and then he didn't respond to any offers or e-mails the entire off-season. He ended up dealing Calvin right before the draft for signifcantly less than I would have given up, and less than another owner would have given up as well. And, I know we weren't the only two interested in Calvin.

 
I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" period...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.
:shrug: some would say checking everyday or every other day in the offseason is a problem.
 
I pay heavy attention to dynasty leagues around the NFL draft and league drafts, but beyond that I tend to ease off on league efforts because I keep the faith on my draft picks, and the rest of my roster, for better or worse. ...die with my picks

Most tradeable players on my roster (for example) are Brett Favre and Chester Taylor. They have near zero trade value, so I tend to tune out trade efforts for a few months, hoping their value will spike later

 
Zoomanji said:
Same here. I'm in leagues that over-lap some owners who are inactive in all of them. What's the fascination with being in 3 dynasty leagues when you don't bother doing a thing in any of them? At least the rest of the teams never have to worry about being last

39407 said:
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :hey:
I am in 7 dyanasty leagues now and 2 of them are with you. In 1 of my leagues you can forget about 4-5 of the other 15 owners, even during the season which is totally crazy. Then when you make a big trade they always seem to respond with, "I never ever get trade offers like this".I also feel your pain about the Hardcore draft, but it is finally over :excited:
 
I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" period...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.
Don't your Dynasty leagues have RFA in March or April before the rookie drafts?
 
I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" period...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.
:lmao: some would say checking everyday or every other day in the offseason is a problem.
I disagree. Every owner should check in at least once a week during the off-season to see if there are any league referendums to be voted on and to answer any trade offers. In reality they should be trying to improve their team year round by at least monitoring the waiver wire. There are injuries and other events that change player situations during OTAs, mini camp, and training camp, not to mention how NFL trades can change a player's value. Like I said, if owners aren't interested in this, then maybe redraft leagues would be more to their liking.
 
Zoomanji said:
Same here. I'm in leagues that over-lap some owners who are inactive in all of them. What's the fascination with being in 3 dynasty leagues when you don't bother doing a thing in any of them? At least the rest of the teams never have to worry about being last

39407 said:
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :lmao:
I am in 7 dyanasty leagues now and 2 of them are with you. In 1 of my leagues you can forget about 4-5 of the other 15 owners, even during the season which is totally crazy. Then when you make a big trade they always seem to respond with, "I never ever get trade offers like this".I also feel your pain about the Hardcore draft, but it is finally over :lmao:
I was actually talking about GMX :lol: of course its the same guy in both that's always the hold-up. We'd probably still be waiting if I hadn't emailed him :lmao: And those 4-5 guys are pretty annoying. Even worse is that they are active in political threads but can't check :bag: a trade offer
 
I am in several dynasty leagues...and I agree with the post for the most part...however I always inform my leaguemates that after the Super Bowl...I am shut down till the weeks leading up to NFL draft. I will answer trade offers...but I make no offers during this "down" period...everyone needs a break. Taking a couple of months off....is a good thing...not a bad thing.
:rant: some would say checking everyday or every other day in the offseason is a problem.
I disagree. Every owner should check in at least once a week during the off-season to see if there are any league referendums to be voted on and to answer any trade offers. In reality they should be trying to improve their team year round by at least monitoring the waiver wire. There are injuries and other events that change player situations during OTAs, mini camp, and training camp, not to mention how NFL trades can change a player's value. Like I said, if owners aren't interested in this, then maybe redraft leagues would be more to their liking.
Oh come on Johnny, First off all the dynasty leagues I am in (10 in total for the last 6 years) do not have any RFA period and only have a rookie/freeagent draft after the NFL draft in concluded. Taking off Feb and March (and when I mean taking off) I mean not actively looking to trade with other owners is a strategy I always have employed and it has worked for me. I am a very active owner but 2 months out of 12....sorry but I need a break and none of my leagues have ever had a problem with it. And like I said if I see a trade offer on my desk it is answered within 48 hours.....and I have even countered if it caught my attention. I am the type of owner who likes to know the value of the rookie picks before I deal for or away any of them. That is just me and it has worked. Those that roll the dice before knowing where rookies land...good for them. Do I deal Rookie picks during the season..of course. But in the offseason...it is an unknown and being patient and waiting for the NFL draft before making further moves for or trading away picks has proven very prudent for my squads.But I do read the news, keep up on player movment and coaching changes and then put all that info together and do a hard scout on rookies and then once the NFL draft happens I am back in business until the 2 months after the Super Bowl....again. Our leagues are pretty fine with this.If a league had a requirement that I be around every week, year round and drumming up activity...then I would never join it.But don't tell me I need to be in a redraft. I have not played in a redraft in 5 years.Please dude. I have been playing Dynasty leagues for a long time with great success taking my 2 month vacation. Hell I am on house money still. :lmao:
 
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There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
There are different types of dynasty leagues. I commish one where once the fantasy superbowl is done, league activity is done until the rookie draft. We do it to protect the league. Let's face it, reality is that there will be a large percentage of owners who need the time off from a long fantasy season. However, that doesn't mean they shouldn't get the chance to play in a league where you keep players on the team from year to year.Why does Dynasty mean you have to be a maniac and do waiver wires and check your trade offers in Feb. or April. If you have 12 owners who want to bang it out 52 weeks a year, then more power to those 12 guys. I don't want that, I love fantasy football and even like dynasty leagues, which to me means I have a team that we keep year in and year out, add to it by the rookie draft and free agency throughout the year as well as trades but come offseason, the league is shutdown to protect it's validity so when the NFL fires up again, there's no lopsidedness created from when guys were on vacation.
 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
There are different types of dynasty leagues. I commish one where once the fantasy superbowl is done, league activity is done until the rookie draft. We do it to protect the league. Let's face it, reality is that there will be a large percentage of owners who need the time off from a long fantasy season. However, that doesn't mean they shouldn't get the chance to play in a league where you keep players on the team from year to year.Why does Dynasty mean you have to be a maniac and do waiver wires and check your trade offers in Feb. or April. If you have 12 owners who want to bang it out 52 weeks a year, then more power to those 12 guys. I don't want that, I love fantasy football and even like dynasty leagues, which to me means I have a team that we keep year in and year out, add to it by the rookie draft and free agency throughout the year as well as trades but come offseason, the league is shutdown to protect it's validity so when the NFL fires up again, there's no lopsidedness created from when guys were on vacation.
Shutdown to protect the validity of the league? Seems counter-dynasty to me, but that's my opinion. Most everyone go on vacations, even in-season, so that's not a valid excuse for shutting down a dynasty league during the off-season.
 
There are too many owners who are playing dynasty when they should be playing redraft. With redraft leagues it's ok to ignore the off-season and not worry about their fantasy teams. Not so much with dynasty leagues however, which should require year round attention, that includes waiver wire activity, voting on league referendums, trading, etc.. There are more people playing fantasy football now than ever before, but there are also a lot of them playing in dynasty leagues and are nowhere to be found during the off-season. Forget about sending them trade offers, because you know they won't see them. I believe owners should take a long hard look at the type of leagues they are playing in and whether or not their participation matches the leagues they are playing in. If you're one of those dynasty owners who only show up for the draft and the season, you might want to do your league mates a favor and quit. Find a good redraft league to play in. Everyone will be happier.
There are different types of dynasty leagues. I commish one where once the fantasy superbowl is done, league activity is done until the rookie draft. We do it to protect the league. Let's face it, reality is that there will be a large percentage of owners who need the time off from a long fantasy season. However, that doesn't mean they shouldn't get the chance to play in a league where you keep players on the team from year to year.Why does Dynasty mean you have to be a maniac and do waiver wires and check your trade offers in Feb. or April. If you have 12 owners who want to bang it out 52 weeks a year, then more power to those 12 guys. I don't want that, I love fantasy football and even like dynasty leagues, which to me means I have a team that we keep year in and year out, add to it by the rookie draft and free agency throughout the year as well as trades but come offseason, the league is shutdown to protect it's validity so when the NFL fires up again, there's no lopsidedness created from when guys were on vacation.
Shutdown to protect the validity of the league? Seems counter-dynasty to me, but that's my opinion. Most everyone go on vacations, even in-season, so that's not a valid excuse for shutting down a dynasty league during the off-season.
I think the point is that you just need to understand the type of dynasty. Just because a league shuts down for a few months doesn't mean it's wrong, or not a good league. I'm in one that shuts down and one that pretty much goes all year round. As long as expectations are set, there's no problem.If you are in a league where only one or two owners work trades, etc. deep in the off-season, then maybe you are the ones that shouldn't be in that league.
 
I agree Johnny and good post.

I was in a league with a couple owners like this and they happened to not pay on time...so we booted them. They blamed us...but in the end the blame is on themselves.

Dynasty is the ultimate in FF....lucky is much less of a factor vs redraft...and keeping up to date year round is an essential to win. So if they don't that's fine with me. But it is bothersome when they don't respond to offers/posts/voting/etc I agree.

 
Great post... We booted a guy from our dynasty league (we are all friends) due to this exact thing. People may take it personally (although they should not), but essentially it needs to be done.

Anytime you are playing a game or sport and don't feel the level of commitment is there to keep the level "fun" for everyone then things like this need to happen. I don't care if I was playing a board game, card game, soccer game, etc. If someone is not commiting it makes it less fun for everyone. Fantasy football is about maximizing fun in a nerd way. My wife makes fun of me all the time for it, but I am definitely having fun! And if you are going to get in the way of my fun (not commiting) be prepared to suffer the consequences accordingly haha.

 
I completely agree with Johnny U. I'm in multiple dynasty leagues & run a redraft & a keeper league. I think there does need to be a different standard for dynasty. In the age of email - it isn't very difficult to have your fantasy website automatically email you trade offers. You don't need to log on to the site every day but if you get a trade offer - you can at least respond and say - "Hey, I'm not looking to deal right now - I'm taking a break - let me get back to you later in the off season." What rubs most people the wrong way is when you make offer after offer and don't hear back from an owner. On most league management service providers - you can see the owner activity - and everyone knows who hasn't been on the website in 4 months. In one of my leagues we voted someone that had not been on the website or responded to any trade offers in 4-5 months out of the league and replaced him with a more active owner. I think voting and writing a rule into the league rules such as - "An owner must check in once every 1-2 weeks or notify the league if they are on vacation....." might be a good idea. When I go on vacation - I always post on the message board when I will be gone & not checking my email/league site. It really isn't that difficult - takes a whole 30 seconds. So the people that say...I can't do it because I'm too busy are really kidding themselves.

 
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I am down to 2 leagues, both dynasty. The guys I play with are the most active guys I know.

There are occasional slow periods where everyone is slackin a bit but at the same time, if anyone is away for 4 days or more, we are putting a search party together :lmao: Even in the offseason.

I understand the OP all day...and agree...but one thing I think that you, the non-slacking owner can do is be more selective with your leagues and cut these tards out. Do not play with them. Period.

You will see people respond here babbling about money won, results and whatever but who really cares. WOW, you beat 10 ####### and your brother....what an accomplishment!!! I would rather beat 11 other guys who are as active as me, want the title as bad as me...winning actually takes something.

If everyone like me and the OP would just be diligent about who is allowed in their league, playing in less leagues if thats what it takes to accomplish it, then all the sorry-###-I-need-my-summer-vacation type owners can just play with themselves and not drive any of us insane. Take it from me, I no longer play in my local league and ever since I changed to just these 2 that are perfect...my enjoyment level is back up where it was when I first started playing.

Best of luck to all of you.

 
I think Grigs Allmoon said it best:

I think the point is that you just need to understand the type of dynasty. Just because a league shuts down for a few months doesn't mean it's wrong, or not a good league. I'm in one that shuts down and one that pretty much goes all year round. As long as expectations are set, there's no problem.
 
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :rolleyes:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
wait all year for the draft and then everyone is in a hurry to finish it. Never understood it.
It doesn't take 12 or even 24 hours to make your pick once its your turn especially in rounds 5, 6, 7, etc. I can see a delay in early rounds rounds if you are trying to deal the pick but later...What, are you savoring your time on the clock? :boxing:people who take more than 12 hours to pick. Never understood it.
 
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Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :lmao:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
wait all year for the draft and then everyone is in a hurry to finish it. Never understood it.
Is it too much to ask that people have a small idea of who they'd like to take? I don't understand not taking an active interest in your own hobby when there is league event like a draft in progress.
 
Clock hogging, non-responsive deadbeats are slowly but surely killing my fun.
Not kidding, try to check in on your draft once or twice a day :cry:
Not to mention people waiting till the last minute in hopes someone will offer them a great player for their mid 3rd rookie pick.....
wait all year for the draft and then everyone is in a hurry to finish it. Never understood it.
Never understood how people don't see that shopping your pick for hours and hours while on the clock, is ####### bushleague! You stay as true to the real format as possible, in the perfect world all drafts would be live.
 

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