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Of course the cart can be moved, but more likely, the cart will get blown by wind into the car and do the damage that you want to do but aren't man enough to do and let's you vandalize the car without actually vandalizing the car.
No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.I am not afraid of confrontation. If you cut in front of me I say something and you will move back. This is why I am often put in charge of situations where confrontation is likely, I have a backbone. I don't do something you'll never know I did. So I can give myself a little thrill at what a "bad boy" I am.
No, because you put quotes around "crime" to point out that taking up 2 parking spaces is such a minor thing that no one should get upset about it or do anything about it.Personally, while I'd never do it, I appreciate seeing selfish inconsiderate people get some consequences for their actions. If they don't they'll never change what they're doing. And if other people see them getting away with it, then others will start doing the same thing (i.e taking up 2 spaces). Wouldn't parking be fun if half the cars were taking up 2 spaces?Cutting into line is I think a perfect analogy - it doesn't hurt anyone, right? It's not a crime, all it does is make the people already in line have to wait a little longer - kinda like they just have to walk a little further when 2 spaces are taken up by one car.The funny thing is, people will get all hot under the collar if someone cuts in line in front of them and most people will speak up and do something about it. But people parking in 2 spots get a free pass?You arrive at that conclusion because I think keying a car is way higher on the tool scale than double parking?That's all I've really been talking here.How do you think keying the car and double parking rate on the scale?J
What's with everyone questioning the manhood of certain individuals in this thread? The cart is left near the car to make a point not to do damage the car, tough guy. Yes, it's only a minor inconvenience that the tool has to move the cart, but I'm certain he'll find it very annoying to see a cart that close to his precious car. Add to that a note telling him he's an inconsiderate ##### and I've made my point. If you think that's cowardly then so be it. You can stand around, wait for him to show up, puff up your chest and show him what a big man you are. I'm not giving any more time to people like this than I have to, but I prefer not to ignore the problem either. Keep in mind that I'm talking about taking up 2 spaces in the middle of a crowded lot on a busy shopping day. I have no problem with someone who parks as far as possible away from the store when the lot is nearly empty so as to avoid door dings. They inconvenience themselves with a longer walk to and from the car, which is the way it should be. Why they would need to take up 2 spaces in this situation is beyond me, but if it's not inconveniencing others then I really don't care.
Same with someone who cuts in line in front of you, yet you're willing to confront such a person, which could possibly lead to physical acts.
He's out shining his killer IROC with the cool flaps that say Back Off
No it isn't. Cutting in front of me is disrespecting me intentionally and directly. I deal with it directly. Parking in two spaces is a not a personal affront. Well for me anyway, based on this thread I guess some people take everything personally.No, because you put quotes around "crime" to point out that taking up 2 parking spaces is such a minor thing that no one should get upset about it or do anything about it.Personally, while I'd never do it, I appreciate seeing selfish inconsiderate people get some consequences for their actions. If they don't they'll never change what they're doing. And if other people see them getting away with it, then others will start doing the same thing (i.e taking up 2 spaces). Wouldn't parking be fun if half the cars were taking up 2 spaces?Cutting into line is I think a perfect analogy - it doesn't hurt anyone, right? It's not a crime, all it does is make the people already in line have to wait a little longer - kinda like they just have to walk a little further when 2 spaces are taken up by one car.The funny thing is, people will get all hot under the collar if someone cuts in line in front of them and most people will speak up and do something about it. But people parking in 2 spots get a free pass?You arrive at that conclusion because I think keying a car is way higher on the tool scale than double parking?
As I posted in answer to Boot one is an act of personal disrespect, the other is just an act of toolish behavior directed at no one in particular.
Do you ever involve yourself in a situation where the act occurring does not affect you personally or is a personal affront to you?No it isn't. Cutting in front of me is disrespecting me intentionally and directly. I deal with it directly. Parking in two spaces is a not a personal affront. Well for me anyway, based on this thread I guess some people take everything personally.No, because you put quotes around "crime" to point out that taking up 2 parking spaces is such a minor thing that no one should get upset about it or do anything about it.Personally, while I'd never do it, I appreciate seeing selfish inconsiderate people get some consequences for their actions. If they don't they'll never change what they're doing. And if other people see them getting away with it, then others will start doing the same thing (i.e taking up 2 spaces). Wouldn't parking be fun if half the cars were taking up 2 spaces?Cutting into line is I think a perfect analogy - it doesn't hurt anyone, right? It's not a crime, all it does is make the people already in line have to wait a little longer - kinda like they just have to walk a little further when 2 spaces are taken up by one car.The funny thing is, people will get all hot under the collar if someone cuts in line in front of them and most people will speak up and do something about it. But people parking in 2 spots get a free pass?You arrive at that conclusion because I think keying a car is way higher on the tool scale than double parking?
Taking up 2 parking spots is an act of disrespect directed toward everyone in the parking lot, of which group you are a member.Just like cutting in line is an act of disrespect toward everyone in the line (not just you).It's interesting that one bothers you and the other doesn't - which is why the analogy is a good one.
Like?Do you ever involve yourself in a situation where the act occurring does not affect you personally or is a personal affront to you?No it isn't. Cutting in front of me is disrespecting me intentionally and directly. I deal with it directly. Parking in two spaces is a not a personal affront. Well for me anyway, based on this thread I guess some people take everything personally.No, because you put quotes around "crime" to point out that taking up 2 parking spaces is such a minor thing that no one should get upset about it or do anything about it.Personally, while I'd never do it, I appreciate seeing selfish inconsiderate people get some consequences for their actions. If they don't they'll never change what they're doing. And if other people see them getting away with it, then others will start doing the same thing (i.e taking up 2 spaces). Wouldn't parking be fun if half the cars were taking up 2 spaces?Cutting into line is I think a perfect analogy - it doesn't hurt anyone, right? It's not a crime, all it does is make the people already in line have to wait a little longer - kinda like they just have to walk a little further when 2 spaces are taken up by one car.The funny thing is, people will get all hot under the collar if someone cuts in line in front of them and most people will speak up and do something about it. But people parking in 2 spots get a free pass?You arrive at that conclusion because I think keying a car is way higher on the tool scale than double parking?
No everyone wouldn't as has been well shown in this thread.
They have no idea who is there, it is an impersonal act.
I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
I assure you, the person cutting in line in front of you has no idea of who you are and has absolutely no intention of showing you up or disrespecting you. They just value their time more than yours and think they can get away with it.Which is an awful lot like parking in 2 parking spaces, is it not?
And its impersonal acts that make it bad. If I'm in a movie theater that you are in and I'm talking to a friend of mine rather loudly during the movie...... that isn't a personal affront against you. I'm not singling out NCCO as a target for the inconvience that my talking will cause. I'm just talking to a friend. I don't want to live in a country where people don't give a damn about the inadvertant minor inconviences that they might cause anonymous people.
He/she has no idea I am there or you are there. It is an impersonal act of selfishness and the rules don't apply to me.I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
There is a line, they know people are there. It is two different things.
But they realize that there are people in this society who might need that spot who are there. Remember...... Saddam Hussein was a double parker. ( at least according to Seinfeld).He/she has no idea I am there or you are there. It is an impersonal act of selfishness and the rules don't apply to me.I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
As more and more people started doing it, I'm quite sure that virtually everyone would eventually use 2 spaces.When there are no rules against it, and no negative consequences for doing it, people will do it.
Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
way to put words in his mouth.My enhanced tool meter looks like this:double spot parker--->boot to the head--->person who cuts in line--->car keyer
And I would turn around and say something. I have on more than one occasion. If it persists that's why they have managers and security there. But that is much different than what I commented on. Which is that somehow the destruction of someones property is permissible or understandable in that situation. I responded about the positive support for keying cars not about confronting someone over there behavior.
Not may people realize that was yet another reason we had to go to war in Iraq. If Saddam would have been allowed to continue to double park then the terrorists would have already won.But they realize that there are people in this society who might need that spot who are there. Remember...... Saddam Hussein was a double parker. ( at least according to Seinfeld).He/she has no idea I am there or you are there. It is an impersonal act of selfishness and the rules don't apply to me.I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
Ok, I think I see your stance.If someone does something selfish/inconsiderate that directly affects you, then you will take action.But if someone does something selfish/inconsiderate that doesn't directly affect you, then you are ok with it.
Depends.
I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Yep.
To be clear if you want to confront them roll on as I said earlier. What I didn't condone was the childish and cowardly do something while they weren't there method that seems to be so in fashion for some.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Depends on how you interpret the tool-o-meter.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Good logic there.Depends on how you interpret the tool-o-meter.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Thanks. Trying to bring myself to your level.Good logic there.Depends on how you interpret the tool-o-meter.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
In that case try refuting something using a little logic instead of personal attacks.Thanks. Trying to bring myself to your level.Good logic there.Depends on how you interpret the tool-o-meter.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
who did I attack?In that case try refuting something using a little logic instead of personal attacks.Thanks. Trying to bring myself to your level.Good logic there.Depends on how you interpret the tool-o-meter.I see... so you're saying maybe confrontation isn't the way to go when someone takes up 2 spots?Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.I don't see any flaws with your plan.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Man, I'm just trying to get some tortilla chips and beer, and now I need to be fighting for social justice too?I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
Like Costanza said in the episode where they were at the Chinese restaraunt and the lady took the phone that he was waiting for: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY HERE!!!!!!..Actually this conversation could have been right at home on Seinfeld.Man, I'm just trying to get some tortilla chips and beer, and now I need to be fighting for social justice too?I think that to a certain point it is about you. Most of us take the effort in this world to not take up two spots in a lot. Hell, I'd love to drive up to the front row and park in the middle of four spaces...just for the convience. But I don't because I have respect for the anonymous people who live in this society. When you see someone park across two spots...you see someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone else. Now while keying is not a "punishment" worth the "crime", a minor, minor inconvience is worth it.....if nothing more than to let this person know that the people he doesn't have respect for aren't going to stand for it.No my recommendation was to let it go and realize it isn't about you. I have real problems and real worries to deal with personally.Got it.So your recommendation is to sit down and wait until the guy that's taking up 2 spaces comes out so you can say something to him.No I key their cart like all the brave men do.
Other than maybe having to wait a couple of hours, maybe finding out that (surprise!) the person you just waited for is a jackass who couldn't care less about you being offended about his selfish parking habits, and maybe finding out that he also has no problem with sucker punching you and giving you a kick to the ribs before he drives off.
I don't see any flaws with your plan.
Put the cart right up against the door moulding. That's what it's for, no?
I get that, too. Kind of a natural scowl I guess.
My first and only post in this thread. I agree with this guy.My points and I'm out:I don't key cars that double park nor do I do anything to them for that matter. I think keying is too severe too... I like the idea of letting the air out of a couple of tires. Only aggravation, no permanent damage. Karma if you will.I'm fine with cars that park away from everyone else - that's the proper way to do it if your car is that important to you.The reason cars get keyed is because it's human nature for people get pissed off when they see someone taking up 2 spaces when everyone else is following the rules and respecting their fellow man. Absence of this respect = chaos. It's really simple if you don't want your car keyed in a parking lot - just don't take up 2 spots. Like everyone else in the parking lot doesn't. That's how societies work.Regardless of how you feel about retribution to these thoughtless people, you benefit because it happens.If you think about the logical progression if everyone could double park without concern for their car's well being, you can figure out where it would lead.Bottom lineeople that randomly key cars = Tool and criminalPeople that key double parked cars = complex situation as this thread attests, but bottom line for me is that I think the driver deserved it for selfishly putting their interests above everyone elses, and that if it didn't happen we'd be overrun by these tools. I'd vote for letting the air out of their tires, but since keying is quick and simple that's why it happens.As a last comment, I'll bet that a lot of people who have keyed double parked cars are normal ordinary people who have never done anything like that before and likely never will again. Here's to no door dings for anyone
Yep that's the description I get from my wife. It's funny because I am a very easy going guy who doesn't get mad very easily. But hey if it makes people mess with me less I am thinking it's a benefit.I get that, too. Kind of a natural scowl I guess.
Yep that's the description I get from my wife. It's funny because I am a very easy going guy who doesn't get mad very easily. But hey if it makes people mess with me less I am thinking it's a benefit.I get that, too. Kind of a natural scowl I guess.
So, if you were to park along side the tool taking two spots, kinda blocking him in, like a double park type of deal...what are the chances he keys your car?
Probably high since we've already determined he's a tool.
I would think the chances are great. He's already proven to be a huge tool.
So what's the big deal? How wide is a parking space? 7 feet? Under all but super-packed Christmas shopping conditions the absolute worst thing that happens to you from a guy double-spot parking is that you may have to walk an additional 7 feet to get into a wherever. That's just slightly more than two steps for a man. Two steps? You feel justified in engaging in a criminal and possibly felonious act because of two steps? You'll spend way more time and effort becoming a criminal than you will just putting your left foot in front of your right. In all likelyhood it's not your parking lot so what moral or legal right do you have to take humbrage and mete out punishment? Who is really the bigger tool - the souble-spot parker or the vandal?Again: Never done it. Likely never will. Don't care one way or the other but I'm surprised by some of the responses in here.
I've never keyed a car.But generally speaking, this happens in crowded shopping areas that often have limited parking. I'm from SoCal, so maybe it's different here, but crowded parking lots happen all year round. Sometimes it will mean the difference of parking a few blocks farther away.When I was in college, parking was so bad that you'd sometimes have to wait 30 minutes for a spot.I don't think the anger elicited in this thread comes from someone double parking in a wide open parking lot.
This is the proper thing to do. People who park in 2 spots are a special breed and they deserve what comes to them.
