Peyton Hillis will be a top 15 rb this year (1 Viewer)

[SteelerMurf]

Huge BustKC is inept and Crennel is a terrible coach.Staying away from everything KC related, Bowe/Charles/Hillis etc.

They were 10-6 in 2010 and 7-9 last year despite being forced to roll out a Tyler Palko and Jackie Battle starting backfield the last quarter of the season. They're not a certain playoff team, but they're good enough to be in the hunt.

Agreed I think they are a solid team

 

[jackdubl]

Charles looks like he never got hurt.

 

[kutta]

Charles looks like he never got hurt.

That's because they're using rubber bullets. When the real things start to fly, it's going to be a different story.

 

[Mile High]

Huge BustKC is inept and Crennel is a terrible coach.Staying away from everything KC related, Bowe/Charles/Hillis etc.

Finally someone other than me says it.

2nd best team in the AFCW

 

[LHUCKS]

Charles looks like he never got hurt.

That's because they're using rubber bullets. When the real things start to fly, it's going to be a different story.

Exactly, we'll see how she holds up when they're playing for paychecks.

 

[Run It Up]

Huge BustKC is inept and Crennel is a terrible coach.Staying away from everything KC related, Bowe/Charles/Hillis etc.

Finally someone other than me says it.

2nd best team in the AFCW

I have a differing opinion, I think they are competing for 3rd in their division at best.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Unless you're predicting an injury to Charles or a 12-4 season for KC, Peyton Hillis isn't sniffing 250 carries. I like him, but that's just not a realistic projection.

Well it might just be coachspeak but the KC coaching staff claims they want to run the ball 500 times this season. In that scenario I dont think hillis getting 250 carries is crazy at all...i think charles getting 250 carries coming off ac surgery is nuts. in fact i think that anyone who thinks charles is going to have a top 10 year this year is nuts. I dont care how talented that kid is no rb comes back full strength only 12 months removed from ACL tear. providing that charles stays healthy this year, he will be decent, but not at ALL worth his current ADP. next year he will return to full strngth and top 5 status. Hillis is healthy, and a battering ram. He should get more carries than charles, and lots of TD's, and lots of receptions. He is great in pass pro and he is a great receiver out of the backfield so it wouldnt surprise me to see him on the field more than charles on passing downs. People are sleeping on hillis this year...just the way i like it!

Deuce McAllister tore his ACL in '05 and then had a big year in '06. It's not impossible, and the sample size of running backs as talented as Charles suffering ACL injuries in modern times is impossibly small.McCluster, Cassel, Breatson and others will probably get around 75 carries this year. I don't care how many carries the KC coaching staff wants to have, in reality, losing teams simply can't afford to run. I don't expect Kansas City to have a winning record this season, and I would project them at 475 carries. So that's 220 for Charlies, 180 or so for Hillis. Projecting 250 for Hillis or anything close to that means you have to assume too many things (i.e., KC is very good, Hillis gets more carries than Charles, no one else carries the ball for KC).

I never understood the Chiefs love this preseason. They were a very bad team last year that lucked into 7 wins.

 

[FF Ninja]

I never understood the Chiefs love this preseason. They were a very bad team last year that lucked into 7 wins.

Nice bump. I'll play along, though. As a Hillis supporter, I can say he was the only player I wanted any piece of on this team. I liked the addition of Eric Winston and the fact that Hillis was reunited with Daboll. I knew they had a lot of defensive injuries last year and thought they could stay in games this year with a strong run game. Hillis was in line for goal line carries and he's a plus receiver and blocker, so I figured he'd catch a few passes as well. Seemed like a great deal for a 5th/6th pick. That was pretty much all the logic that went into it. So far Hillis has had a couple injuries and the defense has been horrible. Now that Brady Quinn is in the mix, it just got even more unsavory.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

 

[zamboni]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Nice work.Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

 

[JNox3]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Nice work.Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

:whoosh:

 

[zamboni]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Nice work.Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

:whoosh:

Knew he was being sarcastic - said nice work in sincerity.My second point was directed towards the original bump.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Well done

 

[Concept Coop]

Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

I hate them. It is almost comical to see the forum after a big (or bad) game from certain players, and being able to predict certain threads on the front page.

 

[trader jake]

Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

Accountability?

 

[JNox3]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Nice work.Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

:whoosh:

Knew he was being sarcastic - said nice work in sincerity.My second point was directed towards the original bump.

Oh ok. This is for me then :whoosh:

 

[Bogeys]

Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

Accountability?

So then is he going to bump the ones he is wrong about?Accountability goes both ways and to me it is a little unseemly for an admin to bump an "I told you so".

 

[49er fan]

I never understood the Chiefs love this preseason. They were a very bad team last year that lucked into 7 wins.

Nice bump. I'll play along, though. As a Hillis supporter, I can say he was the only player I wanted any piece of on this team. I liked the addition of Eric Winston and the fact that Hillis was reunited with Daboll. I knew they had a lot of defensive injuries last year and thought they could stay in games this year with a strong run game. Hillis was in line for goal line carries and he's a plus receiver and blocker, so I figured he'd catch a few passes as well. Seemed like a great deal for a 5th/6th pick. That was pretty much all the logic that went into it. So far Hillis has had a couple injuries and the defense has been horrible. Now that Brady Quinn is in the mix, it just got even more unsavory.

add me to the mix of disappointed Hillis Drafters...NINJA's logic was my exact reasoning for taking a shot at him in the 6th round...it didn't work out, oh well...I'm sure I have and will make worse selections in the future, but thanks for the reminder C-STU

 

[SacramentoBob]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

 

[ratbast]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

No he actually has had many great games and had proven to be a strong receiver and goal line threat. Unfortunately he has also proven to be injury prone and vanish from existence.

 

[BoltBacker]

Don't really understand the point of I-told-you-so posts. We all hit and miss in this hobby.

Accountability?

I don't think that's quite the right word, but I don't see any problem with bumping posts where people make wildly different educated guesses.If you would have told me before the preseason that KC would add Berry and a 1st round DLman to an already pretty solid defense and it would get worse I would have disagreed with you quite a bit. If you would have told me that in the first half the season KC would never hold a lead I would have said you were crazy. Has anyone ever done that for an entire season? KC is half way there.More than anything else their season proves just how important turnovers are. They were nearly a .500 team last year with a middle of the road (-2). This season they are dead last with a (-20) and that translates to a 1-7. Why fumbles lost and INT's aren't -5 I'll never understand. Especially when so many leagues give too much reward for yards. Giving their opponent almost three extra possessions per game is the single biggest reason KC has completely tanked. Everyone wants to blame the QB's but they weren't any better last year.

 

[jurb26]

I want to come in and pile on too. I'll say that I knew Hillis was going to be terrible and was trying to tell people as much. I'm right about everything. I have no bad draft picks from this year. All were fantastic value and all are in the top 10's for scoring right now. If one of them gets hurt or plays subpar from here on, then I didn't actually draft them but drafted a different guy who is doing better at that time. I'm so much better at this than everyone else.

Very nice.

 

[BlueBlazer05]

Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis, all in the same college backfield at Arkansas (remember, Hillis was the fullback). All of them have been injury-prone in the NFL.

Didn't draft Hillis, but was looking at him before he got scooped up. I thought he could at least fill that Thomas Jones role this year, but it hasn't worked out.

 

[Badgers Fan]

I have failed my fake football team.

 

[rickyg]

I just want this thread to get buried already. I've already taken m medicine and eaten my Crowe publicly for endorsing this turd and drafting hi on just about all of my teams. I want nothing to do with him anymore. He's outta my life! Lol

Please let this thread die it just keeps reminding me of my wasted 6th and 7th rd picks.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Bucs signed RB Peyton Hillis to a one-year contract.
The Bucs worked out Hillis on Tuesday and liked what they saw. In Tampa Bay, he'll be far from a lock to make the 53-man roster. Hillis has battled a variety of injuries over the last two seasons, limiting him to just 246 carries. He's averaged 3.64 YPC over that span and looked genuinely washed up in Kansas City last year. A sort of hybrid fullback/power back, Hillis and Brian Leonard may wind up competing for one roster spot. Speedster Michael Smith and rookie Mike James are also in the mix for backup duties behind Doug Martin.

Related: Buccaneers

Source: Stephen Holder on Twitter

 

[beef]

White rbs lol...

 

[dickey moe]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

 

[greggorymac]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

Calling FFninja...

 

[FF Ninja]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

Calling FFninja...

I'm the only one that can look this up? He was 2nd in 2010. I still think the talent is there. Just not sure we'll ever see the right combination of opportunity and health ever again. But hey, the depth behind Martin is razor thin. If he gets hurt, Hillis will have his chance. But Martin seems pretty durable, so I'd bet against it.

 

[JohnnyU]

He probably won't make the final cut.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

He probably won't make the final cut.

cupboard is pretty bare behind Martin.

 

[shadyridr]

So this guy took steroids three years ago, right? Thats the only explanation

 

[Phenix]

So this guy took steroids three years ago, right? Thats the only explanation

Guess so, the injury that Charles had and Hillis upside from 2010 had me thinking 2011 was the fluke, it's obvious 2010 was and 2011 and 2012 wasn't.

I was high on this guy, but Hillis definitely was on HGH or something.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm not quite as high on Hillis in 2013 as I was in 2012.

 

[Shutout]

I admit I have a bias against this guy. In 2010, he basically destroyed my title run as I played him twice and he had two beast games against me and I remember asking "what the #$%^ is a Peyton Hillis??" So I have always ben jaded on this guy because he seemed to use his 15 minutes of fame crapping on me..LOL.

Otherwise, he seems to be just a guy who had a nice little situaiton for a minute or two. I know there were a lot of people around here last year talking him up, saying he would get 50% of the carries in KC last year and stuff. I'm sure people could find those threads if they want to revisit.

 

[FF Ninja]

So this guy took steroids three years ago, right? Thats the only explanation

Hillis has always been a good player, but continually overlooked. It took like 4-5 injuries, but he got his chance to shine in his rookie year in Denver. He started 4 games (got injured in the 2nd quarter of the 4th game) and was RB7 during that span (week 11-14 of 2008). Hell, he was actually RB10 if you count weeks 9 and 10 and he was just a role player (the primary backup RB) during that span.

Then Shanahan got fired and the new coaching staff undervalued him (13 carries in 14 games in 2009). He was traded to Cleveland as a throw-in for Brady Quinn in 2010 and we all know how the rest of that story goes.

 

[Warhogs]

This actually isn't too bad a landing spot for Hillis owners hoping for something from him. Not a lot of competition to be the top reserve to Martin and potentially an injury away from carving out a nice role.

This doesn't say much for guys like Benson, Beanie Wells and such still looking for a job.

 

[Slapdash]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

I don't agree with this really. That Browns management at the time was quite adept at pissing off their RBs.

 

[Shutout]

This actually isn't too bad a landing spot for Hillis owners hoping for something from him. Not a lot of competition to be the top reserve to Martin and potentially an injury away from carving out a nice role.

This doesn't say much for guys like Benson, Beanie Wells and such still looking for a job.

I dont think Beanie is healthy yet. For guys like him and Benson it may be better for them if they sit back and wait to see if an injury leads to a position open. Otherwise, anywhere they go right now they are likely not playing much.

 

[greggorymac]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

Calling FFninja...

I'm the only one that can look this up? He was 2nd in 2010. I still think the talent is there. Just not sure we'll ever see the right combination of opportunity and health ever again. But hey, the depth behind Martin is razor thin. If he gets hurt, Hillis will have his chance. But Martin seems pretty durable, so I'd bet against it.

I was paging the FFninja not to look up stats, but because you professed your love for him in 2012 to anyone that would listen.

 

[Touchdown There]

Never got the fascination with this guy. He had 2-3 good games 2 years ago and people act like he's going to be the next fantasy star.

I think he was like the 3rd or 4th highest scoring RB in FF three seasons ago - then he got hurt, grew an attitude, and fell off the map.

I don't agree with this really. That Browns management at the time was quite adept at pissing off their RBs.

Agreed. They handled Hillis very poorly at the management level.

 

[Touchdown There]

This actually isn't too bad a landing spot for Hillis owners hoping for something from him. Not a lot of competition to be the top reserve to Martin and potentially an injury away from carving out a nice role.

This doesn't say much for guys like Benson, Beanie Wells and such still looking for a job.

I dont think Beanie is healthy yet. For guys like him and Benson it may be better for them if they sit back and wait to see if an injury leads to a position open. Otherwise, anywhere they go right now they are likely not playing much.

Get off the Beanie train. It has wrecked and has no chance at recovery.