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Peyton, numero uno but how does the rest shake out? (1 Viewer)

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Peyton is usually a lock to be the first QB taken in almost every draft but how does the rest go? Palmer, Brees, Bulger, Brady and then I actually like Romo (I think TO is in for a beast of a year). Also hasnt the gap with Peyton closed a great deal? It seems like you can worry about your QB later and still have a shot at "Peyton-like" production out of that position.

 
I agree that value in the QB position can be had in rounds 6-10, but I would not discount big years for Palmer, Brees and Bulger. The problem, the way I see it, is by drafting one of them early on is that you are shorting yourself at another position. In my opinion, that position would be the WR position and there are a ton of studs out there, especially in 3 wr, 1ppr leagues. I'd rather have a Fitz/Colston combo to go with my 2 rbs (whoever they are) and draft a QB later. Romo is a great value QB, along with Rivers and Kitna. These QBs will be solid and occasionally put up big weeks.

 
You cannot wait until later in the draft and get "Peyton-like" production. That is why gets drafted so highly, year in and year out.

I like Roethlisberger.

 
You cannot wait until later in the draft and get "Peyton-like" production. That is why gets drafted so highly, year in and year out. I like Roethlisberger.
Why Ben Roethlisberger ?
He finished as a top ten qb last season despite not being healthy to start the season. People are drafting him almost as some kind of fantasy afterthought. I'm not sure why he won't finish as a top ten qb again, but he can be drafted much, much later.
 
after peyton

Palmer

Bulger

Brees

Brady

McNabb

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Kitna

Hasslebeck

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Big Ben

then the super young high upside guys

Romo

Rivers

Cutler

Leinart

Young

 
I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:

P Manning

Palmer

Romo

Brees

Bulger

Kitna

Hasselbeck

Roethlisberger

Leinart

IMO, the big dropoffs are after Brees, and after about the #12 QB. I see Romo, Hasselbeck, and Roethlisberger as good values, and guys I'm targeting as starters that can be had in rounds 6-7 (later for Ben). Kitna is still somewhat undervalued, but the secret is out, and his ADP is approaching his real value.

 
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I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:
He certainly has the tools to finish as the top qb but I'm not sure the team will be forced into throwing the ball as much as the Colts. The Patriots actually have a good defense while the Colts have...well they have Bob Sanders and not too much else.
 
I agree that Manning will throw like crazy this year. I'm actually strongly considering taking him with the 2nd pick of the 1st round in a 14-team draft. I like sure things. None of the RBs after Tomlinson are sure things. Manning is.

 
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I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:
He certainly has the tools to finish as the top qb but I'm not sure the team will be forced into throwing the ball as much as the Colts. The Patriots actually have a good defense while the Colts have...well they have Bob Sanders and not too much else.
Agreed... I think its a 2 horse race for the number 1 spot this year, and I think Palmer will win it over Peyton rather convincingly... The Bengal D will put Carson in shootouts often enough and there are less questions with him this season... If your league rewards for long TD's i think this puts Carson squarely as qb 1...The Colts on the other hand just one the superbowl by running the football... They will need to do that even more this year to keep their ridiculously weak run defense off the field... In the first preseason game Peyton didnt even get off the field until there were only about 5 minutes left in the first quarter... If teams are having that kind of success on the ground it may hurt Peytons totals... Throw in the fact that he will have to get rid of the ball earlier and may take some hits due to the loss of Glenn, then you have a situation in which I would not want to spend to early of a pick on... In a start 2qb league where several qbs go early and often I would take Carson as qb1...
 
I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:
He certainly has the tools to finish as the top qb but I'm not sure the team will be forced into throwing the ball as much as the Colts. The Patriots actually have a good defense while the Colts have...well they have Bob Sanders and not too much else.
Agreed... I think its a 2 horse race for the number 1 spot this year, and I think Palmer will win it over Peyton rather convincingly... The Bengal D will put Carson in shootouts often enough and there are less questions with him this season... If your league rewards for long TD's i think this puts Carson squarely as qb 1...The Colts on the other hand just one the superbowl by running the football... They will need to do that even more this year to keep their ridiculously weak run defense off the field... In the first preseason game Peyton didnt even get off the field until there were only about 5 minutes left in the first quarter... If teams are having that kind of success on the ground it may hurt Peytons totals... Throw in the fact that he will have to get rid of the ball earlier and may take some hits due to the loss of Glenn, then you have a situation in which I would not want to spend to early of a pick on... In a start 2qb league where several qbs go early and often I would take Carson as qb1...
I don't follow your logic. The Bengals will have a terrible defense so Palmer will get into loads of shootouts...yet the Colts have such a terrible defense so they will run the ball a ton?
 
I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:
He certainly has the tools to finish as the top qb but I'm not sure the team will be forced into throwing the ball as much as the Colts. The Patriots actually have a good defense while the Colts have...well they have Bob Sanders and not too much else.
Agreed... I think its a 2 horse race for the number 1 spot this year, and I think Palmer will win it over Peyton rather convincingly... The Bengal D will put Carson in shootouts often enough and there are less questions with him this season... If your league rewards for long TD's i think this puts Carson squarely as qb 1...The Colts on the other hand just one the superbowl by running the football... They will need to do that even more this year to keep their ridiculously weak run defense off the field... In the first preseason game Peyton didnt even get off the field until there were only about 5 minutes left in the first quarter... If teams are having that kind of success on the ground it may hurt Peytons totals... Throw in the fact that he will have to get rid of the ball earlier and may take some hits due to the loss of Glenn, then you have a situation in which I would not want to spend to early of a pick on... In a start 2qb league where several qbs go early and often I would take Carson as qb1...
I don't follow your logic. The Bengals will have a terrible defense so Palmer will get into loads of shootouts...yet the Colts have such a terrible defense so they will run the ball a ton?
Sounds like he was going for the old "Chewbacca Defense"."It doesn't make sense!......You must acquit."
 
I think Brady will finish the year as the #1 fantasy QB. The rest of my top 10:
He certainly has the tools to finish as the top qb but I'm not sure the team will be forced into throwing the ball as much as the Colts. The Patriots actually have a good defense while the Colts have...well they have Bob Sanders and not too much else.
Agreed... I think its a 2 horse race for the number 1 spot this year, and I think Palmer will win it over Peyton rather convincingly... The Bengal D will put Carson in shootouts often enough and there are less questions with him this season... If your league rewards for long TD's i think this puts Carson squarely as qb 1...The Colts on the other hand just one the superbowl by running the football... They will need to do that even more this year to keep their ridiculously weak run defense off the field... In the first preseason game Peyton didnt even get off the field until there were only about 5 minutes left in the first quarter... If teams are having that kind of success on the ground it may hurt Peytons totals... Throw in the fact that he will have to get rid of the ball earlier and may take some hits due to the loss of Glenn, then you have a situation in which I would not want to spend to early of a pick on... In a start 2qb league where several qbs go early and often I would take Carson as qb1...
I don't follow your logic. The Bengals will have a terrible defense so Palmer will get into loads of shootouts...yet the Colts have such a terrible defense so they will run the ball a ton?
Reading comprehension would probably help... You are taking a small piece of what I said and making it your whole rebuttal...... The reason Peyton has a ring is because the Colts ran the ball decisively in the playoffs and superbowl... Do you think that philosophy is going to change this year..??? Of course they will still pass and of course Peyton is great but we are talking fantasy, not real football.... Also, the Bengals give up points and are not a good defense but you will not be able to simply run the ball down their throats all day like you may be able to against the colts this season.. In the first series of the year in their first preseason game the Colts defense was on the field for ten minutes.... not good... Also, a little tidbit that I forgot to add in my first post, if your playoffs start in week 14 like most leagues, Peyton plays the Ravens in Baltimore, a team that held him to 170 yards and 2 picks the last time they saw him... If you like Peyton better, good for you, so does everyone else, but I think he has more questions this year than ever before and I am giving you some reasons why I dont feel he is a slam dunk this year... If you disagree your in good company.
 
Brady put up 4100 yards with Deion Branch and David Givens as his only real passing threats two years ago, lost both of them and still put up 3500 yards and 24 TDs. He now has Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker, a healthy Ben Watson, and still has Kevin Faulk, and is hitting his prime. I could see him set some career numbers this season, something along the lines of 4200/30. Obviously, he's not as sexy of a pick as Carson Palmer or Peyton Manning, but he *will* put up serious numbers this year.

The WRs he has this year are tremendous in comparison to what he's used to. I could see two WRs on this team going over 1000 yards, as Belichick will utilize his best players on offense to put up points. In his words, "I don't care how we score the points as long as we score them"

 
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In the first series of the year in their first preseason game the Colts defense was on the field for ten minutes.... not good...
1. It's preseason2. 2 of their 3 best defensive starters weren't playing (Sanders and Mathis).3. They had a very vanilla game plan and started rookies.I really don't think the Colts D will be as bad as it seems right now. I actually saw potential for a faster defense with much better tackling than last season. And, just as important, that was the best special teams coverage I've seen from the Colts in a couple of years - and that is what was killing them as much as their run D last year.Plus, the last 2 seasons, they lost more pre-season games (8) than they did regular season and playoff games combined (7). How much can you take from results from Colts pre-season games? Last pre-season, Addai looked like the biggest bust of the 1st round. Now he's a 1st round pick in most fantasy drafts.
 
You cannot wait until later in the draft and get "Peyton-like" production. That is why gets drafted so highly, year in and year out. I like Roethlisberger.
I :shrug: Big Ben this year.His interception rate last year was way, way too high given his 60% comp. That's a statistical anomaly that'll be significantly reduced this year.His health and state of mind were in total disarray. He's healthy now, has a new pass-friendy offense. They'll be running the no-huddle, three quality receivers, a great TE, FWP out of the backfield...parts that have all matured since last year.I rank them:ManningBulgerPalmerBradyBreesRoethlisberger
 

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