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Pink Floyd releasing a new album this October (1 Viewer)
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St. Louis Bob
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Todem
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I believe only Gilmore and Waters are the only original members still alive.Sure would be nice if they got most or all the band together for a final farewell tour.. I've seen Waters do the Wall twice and Gilmour do Dark side of the moon.. Would love to see them work out their differences..
But yeah…would be nice to see them both play live one more time together. Last show I went to was Roger Waters The Wall. Pretty amazing production and the band was spot on. I actually enjoyed Waters Dark Side of the Moon tour far more though. I was never a huge fan of The Wall.
94 was the last time I saw Gilmore live (The Division Bell tour). It was truly an amazing experieince
Ghost Rider
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Gilmour is not an original member; Nick Mason is, though.
If they do tour, which I doubt, Jon Carin could easily fill the spot as their main keyboard player. He was their 2nd keyboard player on both the AMLOR and The Division Bell tours, and has toured with both Waters and Gilmour on their solo tours, so he has the Pink Floyd keyboard vibe down to a 't'.
If they do tour, which I doubt, Jon Carin could easily fill the spot as their main keyboard player. He was their 2nd keyboard player on both the AMLOR and The Division Bell tours, and has toured with both Waters and Gilmour on their solo tours, so he has the Pink Floyd keyboard vibe down to a 't'.
3C's
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While he's not an "original" member he may as well be since Syd was only around for 1 album and Gilmour was there through all of the big success.
And correct on Carin, he could easily fill in. He was doing a lot of the work live even when Wright was there. I think Waters and Gilmour could tour together but they both keep busy separately. Mason says he's all for it and ready to go. He says the only thing that will get them back together is another Live 8 type event. We can always hope for more.
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CurlyNight
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Yeah I saw the news that Gilmour's wife accidentally leaked the release in Oct. There was no accident about it. It's to get us revved up and to start screaming for a tour! Can't wait! If Floyd goes on tour, I'm not going to miss it. I saw Brit Floyd's concert on tv several times and I'm amazed how good they are! Floyd isn't easy to mimic.
Anarchy99
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Already announced that there is no plan to tour. Once Gilmour had a family, he mostly lost interest in the touring thing. He has 8 kids and 5 are adults now. The leftovers are 12, 17, and 19. When he toured off of his last solo album, he only played a few dates and the tour only lasted a few weeks. I doubt we will ever get another Pink Floyd tour (with or without Waters). They both are loaded and don't need the money.
CurlyNight
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Endless River is available starting 11/10. A teenage guy designed the cover. I really like the look!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/meast/egyptian-teenager-pink-floyd-album-cover/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/meast/egyptian-teenager-pink-floyd-album-cover/
Amused to Death
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CurlyNight
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The title of the album is very fitting too in terms of how Rick Wright was an integral part of the band and always will be forever.
Anarchy99
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http://www.americansongwriter.com/2014/10/listen-new-pink-floyd-song-louder-words/
No mistake that it sounds like Pink Floyd (the Gilmour version). Slower song with some typically good guitar work.
No mistake that it sounds like Pink Floyd (the Gilmour version). Slower song with some typically good guitar work.
Apple Jack
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Are you trading or selling all the DVDs in you signature?
snogger
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Found it faster to right click on it and save it locally... Now I can listen to it as much as I want without dealing with you internetI think everyone and their 4th cousins are trying to listen to it.. Been looping for about 20 minutes now... "GET OFF MY INTERNET!!!"
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Apple Jack
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Will probably get around to checking out a couple minutes of this sometime in the next three or four years.
snogger
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Anarchy99
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CurlyNight
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CurlyNight
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This is it. :( I hope touring isn't out of the question at least...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/david-gilmour-on-pink-floyd-its-a-shame-but-this-is-the-end-20141009
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/david-gilmour-on-pink-floyd-its-a-shame-but-this-is-the-end-20141009
snogger
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he already stated they had no plans on touring..
This is basically a tribute album to Rick Wright.
Anarchy99
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CurlyNight
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Well he's 68, not that old. I mean Tom Jones who is 73 is touring. But I get the feeling his wife is at the helm and in control so that may be it. Mason did express interest not long ago. Just sucks. Had I known it was going to go like this, I would have gone to the Division Bell concert, but he was 48 then and who would have thought that would have been it back then for a real Pink Floyd tour.he already stated they had no plans on touring..
CurlyNight
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Anarchy99
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It's supposed to be set up as 4 sides of music, with each side it's own theme/piece of music (even if there are several songs to each stanza).
This song is the first bit of the first side. The later songs are supposed to be less mellow (but mostly instrumental), but I would guess the songs will sound more like solo DG than a PF album. I would not expect anything truly rocking or hard rock out of this, but I hope to be wrong on that front.
Willie Neslon
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What is sad is Roger Waters has ideas for a new album but instead they take 20 year old recordings from an album that Roger was already 10 years plus removed from, that no pink floyd fan would say was good and punch it up and call it a new pink floyd album. Pink floyd in legal name only and what i have heard from the album so far is not special in any way. I will listen and I hope I'm wrong but this will not be liked by very many. This is one very stubborn man who just will not forgive and forget and the world has had to pay and with releases like this will continue to pay. Who would want a tour anyway? You would have to listen to this and other non roger stuff before you heard the good stuff and you're only seeing basically a solo act with the name of the group on the ticket. Roger has practically begged and they just will not let it go.
I had this discussion last week with my friend who is a very good guitarist. If Nick mason left the Gilmour side and went to Roger and the two of them made an album and called themselves pink floyd, wouldn't the album be a miles better than what is about to be released? We both thought that it would.
I had this discussion last week with my friend who is a very good guitarist. If Nick mason left the Gilmour side and went to Roger and the two of them made an album and called themselves pink floyd, wouldn't the album be a miles better than what is about to be released? We both thought that it would.
snogger
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I'm not sure he is done touring, as he still does small shows for his own material. but in regards to this album, he stated it is a tribute album to Rick Wright and they won't be doing a followup tour for it.. We can always hope it sells well enough to change their minds, but at this time it doesn't look good :(Well he's 68, not that old. I mean Tom Jones who is 73 is touring. But I get the feeling his wife is at the helm and in control so that may be it. Mason did express interest not long ago. Just sucks. Had I known it was going to go like this, I would have gone to the Division Bell concert, but he was 48 then and who would have thought that would have been it back then for a real Pink Floyd tour.he already stated they had no plans on touring..
Willie Neslon
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They do not care about moneyI'm not sure he is done touring, as he still does small shows for his own material. but in regards to this album, he stated it is a tribute album to Rick Wright and they won't be doing a followup tour for it.. We can always hope it sells well enough to change their minds, but at this time it doesn't look good :(Well he's 68, not that old. I mean Tom Jones who is 73 is touring. But I get the feeling his wife is at the helm and in control so that may be it. Mason did express interest not long ago. Just sucks. Had I known it was going to go like this, I would have gone to the Division Bell concert, but he was 48 then and who would have thought that would have been it back then for a real Pink Floyd tour.he already stated they had no plans on touring..
Anarchy99
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DG is loaded. Money is certainly not a motivating factor.I'm not sure he is done touring, as he still does small shows for his own material. but in regards to this album, he stated it is a tribute album to Rick Wright and they won't be doing a followup tour for it.. We can always hope it sells well enough to change their minds, but at this time it doesn't look good :(Well he's 68, not that old. I mean Tom Jones who is 73 is touring. But I get the feeling his wife is at the helm and in control so that may be it. Mason did express interest not long ago. Just sucks. Had I known it was going to go like this, I would have gone to the Division Bell concert, but he was 48 then and who would have thought that would have been it back then for a real Pink Floyd tour.he already stated they had no plans on touring..
snogger
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I didn't meanDG is loaded. Money is certainly not a motivating factor.I'm not sure he is done touring, as he still does small shows for his own material. but in regards to this album, he stated it is a tribute album to Rick Wright and they won't be doing a followup tour for it.. We can always hope it sells well enough to change their minds, but at this time it doesn't look good :(Well he's 68, not that old. I mean Tom Jones who is 73 is touring. But I get the feeling his wife is at the helm and in control so that may be it. Mason did express interest not long ago. Just sucks. Had I known it was going to go like this, I would have gone to the Division Bell concert, but he was 48 then and who would have thought that would have been it back then for a real Pink Floyd tour.he already stated they had no plans on touring..
wise as much as Popularity.. If it sells well and shows a good following they may feel the need to tour for it.
Ghost Rider
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Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.
Willie Neslon
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this is not their swan song, their swan song was long ago. I know David had said rehearsals were tough but that is because he doesn't want to listen to anyone. I had heard Roger say that back when he left the band he was the only one with any ideas or drive to turn those ideas into an album. The rest of the guys said they would get around to a new album in 4 or 5 years. He wanted to go to work and they did not. He was the only one who had ideas and as he said should he have just not shared them because they didnt want to work? If nobody else had anything he should have just been quiet? They are friendly now but why still hold any grudges. I mean does Gilmour think this album will come off well? This is about him not wanting to be second banana to anyone. Maybe Roger could be a ##### but he was the band during their best times. People in college now will hear new "pink floyd" for the first time with this album and think what was the big deal about this band.Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.
snogger
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Willie Neslon said:this is not their swan song, their swan song was long ago. I know David had said rehearsals were tough but that is because he doesn't want to listen to anyone. I had heard Roger say that back when he left the band he was the only one with any ideas or drive to turn those ideas into an album. The rest of the guys said they would get around to a new album in 4 or 5 years. He wanted to go to work and they did not. He was the only one who had ideas and as he said should he have just not shared them because they didnt want to work? If nobody else had anything he should have just been quiet? They are friendly now but why still hold any grudges. I mean does Gilmour think this album will come off well? This is about him not wanting to be second banana to anyone. Maybe Roger could be a ##### but he was the band during their best times. People in college now will hear new "pink floyd" for the first time with this album and think what was the big deal about this band.Ghost Rider said:Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.Willie Neslon said:
to FBG Mr. Waters.... 
Fiddles
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I would think they probably heard the good stuff at home from their parentsWillie Neslon said:this is not their swan song, their swan song was long ago. I know David had said rehearsals were tough but that is because he doesn't want to listen to anyone. I had heard Roger say that back when he left the band he was the only one with any ideas or drive to turn those ideas into an album. The rest of the guys said they would get around to a new album in 4 or 5 years. He wanted to go to work and they did not. He was the only one who had ideas and as he said should he have just not shared them because they didnt want to work? If nobody else had anything he should have just been quiet? They are friendly now but why still hold any grudges. I mean does Gilmour think this album will come off well? This is about him not wanting to be second banana to anyone. Maybe Roger could be a ##### but he was the band during their best times. People in college now will hear new "pink floyd" for the first time with this album and think what was the big deal about this band.Ghost Rider said:Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.Willie Neslon said:
Ghost Rider
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Well, I see you're strongly in the Waters camp here. Gilmour is the way he is towards Waters cause of Waters' tyrannical attitude toward them the last few years they were a working band together (late 70s/early 80s). Gilmour doesn't want to listen to anyone? Uh, not true. He just isn't gonna go back to being second fiddle and having to force his ideas on to a resisting Roger Waters, like it was in the late 70s/early 80s.Willie Neslon said:this is not their swan song, their swan song was long ago. I know David had said rehearsals were tough but that is because he doesn't want to listen to anyone. I had heard Roger say that back when he left the band he was the only one with any ideas or drive to turn those ideas into an album. The rest of the guys said they would get around to a new album in 4 or 5 years. He wanted to go to work and they did not. He was the only one who had ideas and as he said should he have just not shared them because they didnt want to work? If nobody else had anything he should have just been quiet? They are friendly now but why still hold any grudges. I mean does Gilmour think this album will come off well? This is about him not wanting to be second banana to anyone. Maybe Roger could be a ##### but he was the band during their best times. People in college now will hear new "pink floyd" for the first time with this album and think what was the big deal about this band.Ghost Rider said:Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.Willie Neslon said:
Saying Waters was the band during their best times is not really accurate. Yes, he was the main creative force, but without the contributions of Gilmour and Wright (before the coke crushed his creative side prior to The Wall), that music wouldn't have been nearly as good or iconic. Without Gilmour, that iconic four-note guitar lead in Shine On... does not exist. Without Gilmour, there is no gorgeous lead in Wish You Were Here. Without Gilmour, there is no Comfortably Numb (a song Waters didn't want on The Wall). Etc. And Wright's contributions on Dark Side and WYSH are more than evident.
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Willie Neslon
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I agree with everything you wrote. Those guys had a lot to do with their greatness but not nearly as much as waters. I think roger's greatness has been proven in the albums with and without him.Well, I see you're strongly in the Waters camp here. Gilmour is the way he is towards Waters cause of Waters' tyrannical attitude toward them the last few years they were a working band together (late 70s/early 80s). Gilmour doesn't want to listen to anyone? Uh, not true. He just isn't gonna go back to being second fiddle and having to force his ideas on to a resisting Roger Waters, like it was in the late 70s/early 80s.Willie Neslon said:this is not their swan song, their swan song was long ago. I know David had said rehearsals were tough but that is because he doesn't want to listen to anyone. I had heard Roger say that back when he left the band he was the only one with any ideas or drive to turn those ideas into an album. The rest of the guys said they would get around to a new album in 4 or 5 years. He wanted to go to work and they did not. He was the only one who had ideas and as he said should he have just not shared them because they didnt want to work? If nobody else had anything he should have just been quiet? They are friendly now but why still hold any grudges. I mean does Gilmour think this album will come off well? This is about him not wanting to be second banana to anyone. Maybe Roger could be a ##### but he was the band during their best times. People in college now will hear new "pink floyd" for the first time with this album and think what was the big deal about this band.Ghost Rider said:Gilmour has said that he and Waters are on friendly terms again, but simply cannot work together. He said that became obvious during rehearsals for the Live 8 show; even Waters said as much at the time. This album is Pink Floyd's swan song. This is it. Deal with it.Willie Neslon said:
Saying Waters was the band during their best times is not really accurate. Yes, he was the main creative force, but without the contributions of Gilmour and Wright (before the coke crushed his creative side prior to The Wall), that music wouldn't have been nearly as good or iconic. Without Gilmour, that iconic four-note guitar lead in Shine On... does not exist. Without Gilmour, there is no gorgeous lead in Wish You Were Here. Without Gilmour, there is no Comfortably Numb (a song Waters didn't want on The Wall). Etc. And Wright's contributions on Dark Side and WYSH are more than evident.
Ghost Rider
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Well, I love The Division Bell to pieces, but it's definitely missing that conceptual feel that Waters always brought to the table, but conversely, if you listen to Waters' solo records, they are missing a lot, too. Amused to Death could have been a magnificent Floyd record, instead of being a really good Waters solo record that is missing a few key elements that could have made it truly great. It goes without saying that when the two work together, they are at their best, but if I were close to 70, I doubt I'd want to work again with someone who drove me nuts either, so I totally get Gilmour's stance.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
I agree. But Gilmour could not put out anything on his own that is close to amused to death. It just must be tough for Roger to hear pink floyd album is out next month when it has nothing to do with him.
snogger
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Just so you know what you are getting if you buy this:
All of the tracks on the album but the last are instrumentals. Reviews are
so far..
All of the tracks on the album but the last are instrumentals. Reviews are
so far..
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Haven't heard it yet but if it's a tribute to Rick then that makes sense as you can barely hear his part in their usual type of music.Just so you know what you are getting if you buy this:
All of the tracks on the album but the last are instrumentals. Reviews are
snogger
Footballguy
yea, I'm still looking forward to it.. but some out there may have been "fooled" into thinking this was an outright "Pink Floyd" album after the first single was released.Haven't heard it yet but if it's a tribute to Rick then that makes sense as you can barely hear his part in their usual type of music.Just so you know what you are getting if you buy this:
All of the tracks on the album but the last are instrumentals. Reviews are
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
I listened to it once. My initial thought is it is not a complete album. It's like they got 30% done and just decided to release it. It has some nice moments but overall it sounds like they're just jamming around with the equipment. It would have been nice if they put a few songs in there because the potential was there. They throw in some nostalgic notes and bits and also try to keep current with stuff that sounds like radiohead in parts. All in all i'd give it a 4 out of 10. If they took about a third of this, condensed it and kept writing it had the potential to be decent. Better than the last 2 albums because they stuck to what they do instead of trying to recreate Roger's part. You can almost hear what it could be if Roger was allowed to collaborate. You can hear riffs where if David and Roger were singing over they it'd be like old times. the one actual song "Louder Than Words" lacks any kind of punch and doesnt really fit at the end of the album. I do like that the lack of structure in the album lets then sound a little closer to themselves but the effort feels half baked. The two songs I really liked were Sum and Allons Y.
Listening to it a second time now and thinking how cool it would have been to give this to waters and let him put his touch on it, edit it and finish it.
Listening to it a second time now and thinking how cool it would have been to give this to waters and let him put his touch on it, edit it and finish it.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Will be interesting to hear it. My favorite is Pulse/Division Bell live concert with Gary Wallis on drums/percussion. Man watching him in a cage like setting bouncing around with Floyd music is so awesome!
