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Player Spotlight: Brandon Jackson & Vernand Morency (1 Viewer)

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2007 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Brandon Jackson & Vernand Morency, RBs, Green Bay Packers

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Ill be honest, I dont know much about Jackson, but I have seen Morency play a bit and I like what I see. If he can keep the fumbles to a minimum I dont see any reason why he cant be succesful and be the fulltime back. I saw explosiveness, speed, and the ability to make people miss last year from him. Also, he was good at catching the ball out of the backfield. I think Morency gets the job and keeps it all year. A nice sleeper to draft late although I would expect superstar #s or anything. Despite having a good line this is still an average team with Brett Favre slinging the ball.

Morency:

240 att, 1000 yds, 6 tds, 25 rec, 150 yds, 1 td

Jackson:

80 att, 220 yds, 1 td, 8 rec, 45 yds, 0 td

 
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This is a tough call.

Morency has good vision and bounce for a RB. But he is already an older runner with not much experience.

Jackson is similar but younger. May have better acceleration then Morency, but has never carried the load.

This will be a two back system within the first month. But Morency will remain the A option and Jackson the B option.

A

225 rushes

970 yards

4 TDs

35 catches

235 yards

1TD

B

155 rushes

650 yards

2 TDs

27 catches

180 yards

1 TD

 
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I'm having great difficulties deciding which of the candidates, Vernand Morency or Brandon Jackson will be the more likely one to win the outright starting job in Green Bay. Obviously others are as well since this is only the third post on this pair thus far.

Morency has one year of experience in the offense, but he only backed up Ahman Green last year as Green had 266 rushes to Morency's 91. In addition, Morency had 32 of his 91 carries in the two games that Ahman Green missed and only had double digit carries in one game that Green played. Furthermore in 05 with Houston, Morenecy had 21 of his carries in the last game of the season, which was his tryout to get on the trading block. He played the entire year behind Dom (Davis) Williams AND Jonathan Wells. Wells had significantly more carries than Morency. Also consider the variety of RBs that came in after Morency left, you can see that the Texans thought highly of him.

Brandon Jackson was drafted in the second round and will get a chance to compete for the starting job. He is only 21 years old entering his rookie season. I just have an instinct that he will outperform Mornecy running the ball. It always seems to be the NFL rookie RBs just can't block well enough to stay on the field in obvious passing situations, but in Green bay this will be less important as the Gunslinger gets rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid taking sacks.

Based on the above, I think that it will start out as a full fledged RBBC in Green Bay. But, Jackson will have more success and gradually increase his share of the load as the season progresses. Green Bay heavily involves their RBs in the passing game so there will be ample opportunity at fantasy success here, even in a partial year RBBC, especially in ppr leagues.

Brandon Jackson 245 carries 1029 yards (4.2 ypc) 5 TDs and 38 catches for 303 yards and 1 TD

Vernand Morency 135 carries 567 yards (4.2 ypc) 1 TD and 26 catches for 193 yards and 0 TDs

 
Can someone please look into their crystal ball and let me know exactly how this situation turns out?

As an Morency owner I hope he follows in the same footsteps as A. Green and becomes a superstar. Reality Check....

I think Mornecy does everything he can to hold on to the job through camp and to start the season. I think Morency may be the starter at the start of the season but after poor performances against San Diego in week 3 and MN in week 4 it will become a full blown RBBC with who ever has the hot hand getting the majority of the carries.

Total Guess here..

Morency - 212 carries 826 yards 4 TD 40 Catches for 360 Yards 1TD

Jackson - 174 carries 730 yards 5 TD 18 Cathes for 144 yards 0 TD

 
I think as far as a RBBC goes.

Jackson will be in on 3rd downs....b/c he has good pass protection(due to Nebraska's west coast system) and he is a great reciever out of the backfield.

Morency gets the short yardage carries.

then they split the rest???

If it is RBBC, is that how others see it?

 
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=630935

Running with a new crowd

Herron only holdover from last year's camp

By ROB REISCHEL

Posted: July 10, 2007

If Noah Herron asks for nametags to also be distributed, you can understand why.

At this time a year ago, Herron was one of 10 players in Green Bay's backfield who went to training camp with the Packers. Today, Herron is the only player left from that group.

"That's crazy," Herron said. "I know there's a lot of turnover in this league, but that's really a lot."

You bet it is.

Ahman Green, the second-leading rusher in franchise history, signed a free-agent contract in Houston. William Henderson, a starter since 1996, was released this off-season. The other seven backs who went to camp with the Packers in 2006 are long gone, too.

Vernand Morency, who arrived in a trade from Houston last September and backed Green up, is the front-runner at tailback. Morency figures to be pushed, though, by rookie second-round draft pick Brandon Jackson.

Brandon Miree, who played in 10 games last season after being waived by Denver, is the only fullback among four on the roster with any NFL experience. For the most part, the entire backfield is littered with questions, questions and more questions.

"I look at it as this: we have a lot of players that can help us in a lot of different ways," Packers running backs coach Edgar Bennett said. "A lot of different talented guys. People may not be familiar with their names, but I think they're very good competitors. When we get going into training camp, you'll see there's those attributes that you look for in football players.

"Guys that can step up and help you win football games. I'm excited about our group. I think we have a very talented group, some hard workers. One thing I love about the guys that are in that room is really their work ethic. They're passionate about football and they're going to step up to do whatever they can to help us win games this year."

Since 2003, when Green set a franchise record with 1,883 rushing yards, Green Bay's running game has gone backward. The Packers ranked No. 3 in rushing yards per game in '03, but since then they've finished 10th, 30th and 23rd.

And there's nothing to suggest 2007 will be any better.

"I'm not going to sit here and put expectations on individuals," Packers head coach Mike McCarthy said. "I think we have excellent competition. Who plays how much, or who's starting and so forth, those are all things that will be answered."

Morency (5-10, 220) and Jackson (5-10, 212) are virtually the same size. And neither has yet to prove they're durable enough to carry the ball 300 times in a season.

That could make Green Bay the latest team to use a running-back-by-committee approach. McCarthy, though, emphasized at the end of the Packers' June practices that he'd like to see someone emerge.

"You'd always like to see someone jump up and grab a position, because I think when that happens, obviously productivity increases," he said. "But once again, you want as much competition. It's a long season, God forbid injuries are part of our game. So I'm very comfortable if it takes three, if it takes two, if it takes one. That doesn't bother me at all. That's the job of the coaching staff, to take advantage of the personnel."

There are ways the Packers can take advantage of Morency's skills.

Morency, who came in a trade for Samkon Gado, is a one-cut runner who is a natural in the Packers' zone-blocking scheme. He has more shake in his game than Green did and will try making defenders miss rather than run through them.

After arriving in Green Bay a year ago, Morency averaged 4.6 yards on his 91 carries and scored two touchdowns. But he had some fumbling issues that cut into his playing time and he often failed to gain tough yards inside.

Morency, who spent three years in the Colorado Rockies farm system and is already 27 years old, knows he might never get another chance like this. So he trained diligently this off-season, added eight pounds of muscle and seems focused on making the most of his opportunity.

"He's got really good feet and he's elusive," Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said of Morency. "He's got some shake to him, so that's one of the things if you look maybe a year ago at Ahman, he was physical, a slasher, putting the pads down, knock-you-back type of a runner.

"Whereas Mo is kind of a guy, he's going to get to that aiming point. He's got a little short area quickness, he's really very good. So I do think he made some things happen on his own and hopefully we open up some bigger holes for him this year."

Jackson was a surprise pick in the second round after sharing time at Nebraska last season. And had Jackson returned for his senior season this fall, there were no guarantees he would have been the starter.

Jackson missed Green Bay's mandatory minicamp from May 18-20 to fulfill an NFL obligation in Los Angeles. Then, he missed a large portion of the Packers' organized team activities sessions in June with a minor knee injury.

When Jackson was around, he displayed the niftiest feet on the team. The Packers also believe Jackson is a perfect fit for their scheme, although his productivity at the collegiate level (11 career starts, 1,431 rushing yards in three years) has to be a concern.

"I think we got a hell of a player," Bennett said. "He's more than capable of doing it for us. He has fairly decent size, 210, excellent, excellent feet. He can plant and explode, good speed, 4.45 speed, good receiver out of the backfield, has good vision and he's tough. I really like Brandon."

Herron was the Packers' primary third-down back last year, and like Tony Fisher before him, did all the little things to earn the caching staff's trust. Herron, who played at Northwestern, blocks well, has decent hands (29 catches) and is assignment-sure.

Herron's Achilles' heel, though, will always be his pedestrian speed. But because Herron is steady and the coaches trust him, he might be tough to unseat as the third-down back.

"Personally I feel a lot better this year with myself," Herron said. "I have a year that I've been here, played well and I understand the offense as well as anybody.

"You never feel safe, though. Maybe more comfortable, but not safe. I'm just trying to be safe with my play."

The Packers made a surprising move last month when they released running back Arliss Beach, who had been a training-camp hit in 2006 before spending the year on injured reserve with an ankle injury. That leaves seventh-round pick DeShawn Wynn and second-year man P.J. Pope to battle Herron for the No. 3 job.

Wynn was the leading rusher (699 yards) for the national champion Florida Gators last season. But attitude issues, questionable work ethic and a lack of toughness caused him to drop to the seventh round.

"I have no issues with the way he's worked," McCarthy said of Wynn. "He's young and he probably recognizes his excellent opportunity, so he's done very well so far."

Pope was signed off the Chicago Bears practice squad midway through the 2006 season and played just one game on special teams. He's strong, thick and has a 37-inch vertical leap, but lacks any special qualities and faces an uphill climb to make the roster.

Miree is a good bet to emerge at fullback, based largely on what he showed a year ago. In 10 games, including three starts, Miree had nine receptions and displayed the athleticism necessary for Green Bay's scheme.

Although Miree lacks great size (6-0, 245), he's a perfect fit for what the Packers do. He's also bright, assignment-sure and reliable.

"Brandon's athletic, he can read, react and adjust like a runner would," Bennett said. "And he's gotten stronger. He's a little bit bigger this year. He's stronger. I love how he's improving his pass protection. I'm excited to see him progress and keep getting better."

Korey Hall, a rookie sixth-round pick, played linebacker at Boise State. He'll try making the move to fullback, but is likely to make the roster more for his outstanding abilities on special teams.

Free agents Ryan Powdrell and Corey White opened some eyes during the Packers' post-draft practices. But their fates will be determined when pads go on.

"Powdrell looks like he has some football in him," Philbin said. "And Corey White . . . you don't have to be a genius. He walks down the hall and he looks like a football player. That's a real positive."

It remains to be seen if Green Bay's backfield will be a positive in 2007. If it is, it will be a surprise to many.

Most national pundits and pre-season publications list the Packers' backfield among the worst in the NFL. Now, it will be up to Green Bay to prove them wrong.

"All the critics and analysts and specialists are saying how bad we are," Herron said. "But who's right and who's wrong? You just have to wait and see. For us, it's just going to be playing uphill and playing against the critics."

 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
I think as far as a RBBC goes.Jackson will be in on 3rd downs....b/c he has good pass protection(due to Nebraska's west coast system) and he is a great reciever out of the backfield.Morency gets the short yardage carries.then they split the rest???If it is RBBC, is that how others see it?
The article above suggests that Herron, who was the third down specialist last year, is a good candidate to do so again because of his dependability. Given that I would be surprised to see Jackson fill that role. He will either beat out Morency and be the starter or he will sit the pine and not be that involved.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
I think as far as a RBBC goes.Jackson will be in on 3rd downs....b/c he has good pass protection(due to Nebraska's west coast system) and he is a great reciever out of the backfield.Morency gets the short yardage carries.then they split the rest???If it is RBBC, is that how others see it?
The article above suggests that Herron, who was the third down specialist last year, is a good candidate to do so again because of his dependability. Given that I would be surprised to see Jackson fill that role. He will either beat out Morency and be the starter or he will sit the pine and not be that involved.
I think Jackson will supplant Herron as the 3rd down back. He is an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and isn't too shabby at blocking. Herron may be "dependable," but he doesn't have Jackson's skill, talent, or work ethic.
 
This is definately one of those wait till the preseason type of decisions.

Jackson will get every opportunity to be the man in Green Bay. With all the needs the Packers had in the draft, they only took BJ because they honestly thought that he has the chance to be the Man, and must of been convinced that morencey was not the man.

Should BJ put up the numbers in preseason, he will get at least 70% of the carries. McCarthy is on record as saying he wants to run one primary RB, not RBBC.

So - will he be the man? I wont guess at this point, and if I was drafting before game 2 of the preseason I would not be spending any higher than a fourth round pick on either of them - too many unknowns. Once we know who will be starting - move the winner up to a second round pick.

Whomever gets the starting spot will be a fine RB2, especially in PPR leaugues.

 
I apparently like Jackson more than most. I think he wins the job in camp and gets 80-90% of the carries. :hifive:
Even if one back "wins" the job, there is no way that anyone in Green Bay will get that percentage of the carries.
If he's a better "3rd down" back than Herron and a better "short yardage" back than Morency, why not?Now, if you are saying the "rookie wall" will get him week 13, OK.
 
I apparently like Jackson more than most. I think he wins the job in camp and gets 80-90% of the carries. :thumbup:
I too like Jackson more than most around here and would use a #4 dynasty pick on him in a heartbeat. Jackson will be given every opportunity to earn the starting job, and there are rumors that team officials expect him to win the job as they believe he is a better fit for their offense.Packer Update from 7/16

 
I'm having great difficulties deciding which of the candidates, Vernand Morency or Brandon Jackson will be the more likely one to win the outright starting job in Green Bay. Obviously others are as well since this is only the third post on this pair thus far.Morency has one year of experience in the offense, but he only backed up Ahman Green last year as Green had 266 rushes to Morency's 91. In addition, Morency had 32 of his 91 carries in the two games that Ahman Green missed and only had double digit carries in one game that Green played. Furthermore in 05 with Houston, Morenecy had 21 of his carries in the last game of the season, which was his tryout to get on the trading block. He played the entire year behind Dom (Davis) Williams AND Jonathan Wells. Wells had significantly more carries than Morency. Also consider the variety of RBs that came in after Morency left, you can see that the Texans thought highly of him. Brandon Jackson was drafted in the second round and will get a chance to compete for the starting job. He is only 21 years old entering his rookie season. I just have an instinct that he will outperform Mornecy running the ball. It always seems to be the NFL rookie RBs just can't block well enough to stay on the field in obvious passing situations, but in Green bay this will be less important as the Gunslinger gets rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid taking sacks.Based on the above, I think that it will start out as a full fledged RBBC in Green Bay. But, Jackson will have more success and gradually increase his share of the load as the season progresses. Green Bay heavily involves their RBs in the passing game so there will be ample opportunity at fantasy success here, even in a partial year RBBC, especially in ppr leagues.Brandon Jackson 245 carries 1029 yards (4.2 ypc) 5 TDs and 38 catches for 303 yards and 1 TDVernand Morency 135 carries 567 yards (4.2 ypc) 1 TD and 26 catches for 193 yards and 0 TDs
Very :confused: I agree with all of this.
 
http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../708010623/1989

Thumbs down

There's one sure-fire way for a running back to lose his starting job — repeatedly botch the blitz pick-up drill in training camp.

The sooner rookie Brandon Jackson figures that out, the better off his quarterbacks will be and the better his chances will be to secure the starting job.

Once again, Jackson missed a blitz pickup during a team period in which the defense blitzes on every play. He barely grazed linebacker Nick Barnett, who had a free shot at quarterback Aaron Rodgers. At least Jackson managed to touch Barnett on that play. Earlier in training camp, both Barnett and fellow linebacker A.J. Hawk steamrolled Jackson on separate plays during the same drill.

It's a good thing for the sake of the quarterbacks that it was only practice, because if it happened in a game, one of them might have gotten drilled.

Jackson's problem is he's too tentative. Instead of heading off the blitzer by stepping into him, he sits back and waits. By then, the blitzing player has all the momentum, and Jackson is left flat-footed.

Jackson has received the bulk of the reps with the No. 1 offense since Vernand Morency went down with a knee injury on July 28, but the coaching staff might have to consider taking Jackson out — especially in obvious passing situations — if he can't figure out how to pick up blitzes.

 
Toughest thing to project in rookie RBs is their ability to block and pick up the blitz. If he can't get it, his talent will be wasted on the bench.

 
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2007/08/13/5/

(How is Brandon Jackson doing in the blocking drills?)

I'll keep saying it, he needs to play. He needs as many reps as possible. His technique wasn't very good and it affected the way he practiced today. He didn't have a very good day.

(Have you seen any improvement in that regard?)

He showed it Saturday night. He did a lot of positive things Saturday night with the opportunities that he had. The one negative was his dropped ball. He was very good in his pass protection. I was pleased with both Brandon and Korey Hall in there, particularly with the early group.

(Did he have many opportunities in pass blocking during the game?)

Yes, he did a good job.

(Are your three backs wearing down from the work?)

I don't think so. I think they're benefiting. The way they played showed that. Brandon Jackson did a lot of positive things in the game. I'm very pleased with Korey Hall. Ryan needs to keep playing. Powdrell needs to play. Corey White is a big, physical kid. He's got a lot of football in front of him. Ted and I talked again this morning, like we do every morning, about players that are out there. We're going to stay the course. We are young but these guys will benefit from the extra reps.

(Any update on Morency or Pope?)

Still a couple weeks away. Mo still feels soreness in his knee. With P.J.'s scope, he doesn't have full range of motion yet. They're probably still a couple weeks away.
 

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