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Player Spotlight: Chris "Beanie" Wells (1 Viewer)

Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league. Wells will need to be more ellusive than I think he is to make a huge impact on the ground this year.

I fully expect Hightower to begin the season as the "primary" ball carrier, relenting to Wells as the season moves forward...Hightower simply is not as good as Well, IMO. However, Hightower showed enough in the RZ to likely hold onto the bulk of the goal line carries, and it remains to be seen if they would like to trust their season in the pass-blocking of Wells on 3rd down.

Sure, Whisenhunt wants to throw less, but they threw the ball 65% of the time last season. Even if he gets them down 5-6%, you are looking at Wells getting 42% of about 385 carries.

168-621-4, 17-116-0

 
I also want to say that historically, ARZ is not that good. Historically, the SB loser regresses in the following year. Historically, Kurt Warner does not play many full seasons. (note I did not say due to injury.)Historically, the Cards have been bad at running the ball, and the OL has not changed.I would also like to add to Yudkin, I don't think that ARZ can beat HOU. And if GB has a D that isn't injured throughout, I don't think they beat them either. I would say Jennings is almost as good as Fitz (both top 5 receiver talents) and that Driver and the younguns are about as good as Boldin/Breaston. GB has a much better running game too. So I think 6-10 is more likely. Then again the division is not that good. So maybe they win all division games. Except Seattle gets all their players back this season, and SFO looks to improve as well.If we just look at facts, and then add in some small logical inferences, I would say it is definitely, easily within the realm of possibility that the Cards do not finish above, or maybe even at, .500EDIT: for spelling
Maybe the WORST post I have seen this offseason. Jennings is not CLOSE to Fitz. Driver cmpared to Boldin is a joke. The running game in GB is a joke.Now thats some facts for ya.
as a group I don't think the comparison is all that bad, but for natural talent or the ability to completely take over a game despite what the D does you're right, there's maybe 3 other WRs close to Fitz's talent and Jennings isn't that kind of WR. Never will be, but he doesn't have to be. GB running game is generally right smack in the band of mediocrity. If you're calling the GB running game a joke, what is Arizona's?
 
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
 
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I'm in no way endorsing Wells or comparing him to any other RB, but teams can improve on team ypc even with the same OL by an improvement in the RB position. I'd argue (no study or stats to back this up) that most teams that have a big increase in rushing production and/or efficiency do so by having a more talented RB than the previous year. My example (again not comparing RBs at all) is Detroit when they added Sanders. They went from 390 carries and 3.2ypc to 421 carries and 4.9ypc, which was an increase from 29th to 1st in ypc. If Wells is considered a major upgrade over Hightower/Edge (I am not taking this position necessarily) then I would expect the team to improve in ypc and total carries even with the same supporting cast. If you think Wells is average or no better then yeah, it makes sense to not expect much if any increase in team rushing performance.
 
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I'm in no way endorsing Wells or comparing him to any other RB, but teams can improve on team ypc even with the same OL by an improvement in the RB position. I'd argue (no study or stats to back this up) that most teams that have a big increase in rushing production and/or efficiency do so by having a more talented RB than the previous year. My example (again not comparing RBs at all) is Detroit when they added Sanders. They went from 390 carries and 3.2ypc to 421 carries and 4.9ypc, which was an increase from 29th to 1st in ypc. If Wells is considered a major upgrade over Hightower/Edge (I am not taking this position necessarily) then I would expect the team to improve in ypc and total carries even with the same supporting cast. If you think Wells is average or no better then yeah, it makes sense to not expect much if any increase in team rushing performance.
:( I ain't the biggest Wells fan in the world, but it isn't that hard for me to believe that Hightower and James (still a free agent) simply aren't that good.
 
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I'm in no way endorsing Wells or comparing him to any other RB, but teams can improve on team ypc even with the same OL by an improvement in the RB position. I'd argue (no study or stats to back this up) that most teams that have a big increase in rushing production and/or efficiency do so by having a more talented RB than the previous year. My example (again not comparing RBs at all) is Detroit when they added Sanders. They went from 390 carries and 3.2ypc to 421 carries and 4.9ypc, which was an increase from 29th to 1st in ypc. If Wells is considered a major upgrade over Hightower/Edge (I am not taking this position necessarily) then I would expect the team to improve in ypc and total carries even with the same supporting cast. If you think Wells is average or no better then yeah, it makes sense to not expect much if any increase in team rushing performance.
;) I ain't the biggest Wells fan in the world, but it isn't that hard for me to believe that Hightower and James (still a free agent) simply aren't that good.
I am with you there.The fact that Hightower wasnt able to outperform James, a guy at the end of his career, does make me doubt how good he can be.I agree the guy is still young and will improve, but I dont know that his upside this year is high enough to draft him. At best, I think he will start early in the season (if wells takes longer to pick up the offense than anticipated) and will split carries with Beanie Wells thereafter. but at worst, if Wells is as good or better than the scouts say he is, and picks up the offense quickly, I think Hightower will be the backup from day one.The realitiy is I think they share carries the first couple of games, and Wells will gain carries as the year progresses until he is the clearcut starter (likely halfway through the season)
 
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I'm in no way endorsing Wells or comparing him to any other RB, but teams can improve on team ypc even with the same OL by an improvement in the RB position. I'd argue (no study or stats to back this up) that most teams that have a big increase in rushing production and/or efficiency do so by having a more talented RB than the previous year. My example (again not comparing RBs at all) is Detroit when they added Sanders. They went from 390 carries and 3.2ypc to 421 carries and 4.9ypc, which was an increase from 29th to 1st in ypc. If Wells is considered a major upgrade over Hightower/Edge (I am not taking this position necessarily) then I would expect the team to improve in ypc and total carries even with the same supporting cast. If you think Wells is average or no better then yeah, it makes sense to not expect much if any increase in team rushing performance.
:shrug: I ain't the biggest Wells fan in the world, but it isn't that hard for me to believe that Hightower and James (still a free agent) simply aren't that good.
I am with you there.The fact that Hightower wasnt able to outperform James, a guy at the end of his career, does make me doubt how good he can be.I agree the guy is still young and will improve, but I dont know that his upside this year is high enough to draft him. At best, I think he will start early in the season (if wells takes longer to pick up the offense than anticipated) and will split carries with Beanie Wells thereafter. but at worst, if Wells is as good or better than the scouts say he is, and picks up the offense quickly, I think Hightower will be the backup from day one.The realitiy is I think they share carries the first couple of games, and Wells will gain carries as the year progresses until he is the clearcut starter (likely halfway through the season)
Eerily similar to the Jonathan Stewart talk last pre season. Let's hope Hightower doesn't turn out to be a pro bowler this year......
 
wells does seem to be an extremely divisive & polarizing player... must be one of the bigger ones leading up to the 2009 season...

below was my write up for the FBG staff value play article (for the record, bloom & maurile tremblay also gave a thumbs up)...

"The former Ohio State phenom and prodigy is endowed with a freakish combo of size (6-foot-1, 235 pounds) and speed (legit 4.4), and his constellation of traits and game is eerily reminiscent of Steven Jackson. Landing with the RB starved Cardinals may be the most fortuitous convergence of ability with opportunity in the RB class of 2009. What a RB with potential Pro Bowl tools might be capable of within the Cards explosive aerial attack is off the grid, falling into uncharted fantasy territory. Injury (an admitted risk given his checkered medical history during a star-crossed Ohio State career) is the only thing that can prevent Wells from being in the thick of the Offensive Rookie of the Year race. While there is downside if the nagging injuries resurface at the next level, the upside is getting the rare talent and ability that once elicited comparisons to a young Jim Brown during his stunning freshman debut with the Buckeyes. If the Cards retain Pro Bowler Anquan Boldin, Wells may NEVER see eight men in the box, and should be the beneficiary of plenty of room with which to operate and flash his imposing size/speed combo, and formidable array of pure rushing skills."

while i do acknowledge some of the questions & concerns cited above, i think the positives outweigh the negatives (& some of the concerns may be misplaced)...

it is true that the cards pass the ball as much as anybody... but they haven't had a RB as talented as well before... if wells represents a difference in kind & not just degree of RB talent on the roster, it could be misguided to extrapolate to literally from prior trends... with due respect to edge, he was past his prime, & hightower's 2.8 YPC average last year doesn't inspire a lot of confidence (in fairness, a disproportionate amount of short yardage situations could contribute to that, but he wasn't always in short yardage, other short yardage backs have fared better with similar opportunity)...

the plus here is that the situation presented could be simlar to a colts RB in recent years, where they get to run through gaping holes with the defense distracted by the passing attack... also, the cards move the ball well, could be in the red zone a lot, & present more scoring opportunities for wells...

big question marks are the distribution of carries between wells & hightower, who will be the goal line RB & will wells be relegated to being a two down RB, if deficiencies in pass pro & catching the ball out of the backfield surface...

personally i think, even if he doesn't begin the season as the de facto "starter", he could get his share of carries right away, and the disparity in talent should become more & more apparent as the season wears on... if he isn't starting immediately, i expect him to before midseason (sometime in october?)...

maybe hightower will be the goal line back, which could really hurt wells value, as it doesn't look like he will be heavily involved in the pass game... but wells is bigger, stronger, quicker, faster, more elusive than hightower, which increases the possibility they don't use hightower solely in this capacity (CAR disn't use just williams or stewart in goal line situations)... some of this is indeterminate... if hightower is stuffed a few times & wells starts punching it in with regularity, naturally they will tend to go with the hot hand...

as to the pass heavy attack, former OC haley is gone... grimm was one of the hogs in WAS & came from PIT with whisenhunt... since they have a better RB than they have had before, maybe we can take at face value earlier statements that they would like to have a more balanced attack...

he gets dissed for being injury prone, but just missed three games in his career (all last season)... his toughness has been questioned, but two years ago with played with a bone spur in his ankle (?) & a broken wrist... not to compare him to peterson, but in retrospect sopme of the same concerns at this point appear to have been overblown...

as to questions about ability to cath, it could be a case of conflating ability with opportunity... during the draft mayock said scouts & personnel types were raving about his hands in drills at his pro day... i saw him make a one handed catch, catch the ball away from his body, & he looked like a natural to me...

his ability to block will be key, but i expect him to be coached up in this respect...

as to comp players, he reminds me of a faster eddie george... when i see him on film, i see a player much like steven jackson, maybe faster & more powerful (on NFL channel, he compared his game to jackson, & michael lombardi echoed that sentiment)... there aren't may backs with his blend of size/strength/power, speed/athleticism...

i think he may start year at about 12-15 carries once he assumes starting job... later maybe 15+

if defense improves, he could be in positioin to ice games on the ground during end game...

due to passing game, & his unusual explosiveness & long speed, some long TDs & a 4.5 YPC average...

about 1,200-1,200 yards rushing, 20-25 receptions, 10+ combined TDs...

 
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I ain't the biggest Wells fan in the world, but it isn't that hard for me to believe that Hightower and James (still a free agent) simply aren't that good.

I am with you there.

The fact that Hightower wasnt able to outperform James, a guy at the end of his career, does make me doubt how good he can be.

I agree the guy is still young and will improve, but I dont know that his upside this year is high enough to draft him. At best, I think he will start early in the season (if wells takes longer to pick up the offense than anticipated) and will split carries with Beanie Wells thereafter.

but at worst, if Wells is as good or better than the scouts say he is, and picks up the offense quickly, I think Hightower will be the backup from day one.

The realitiy is I think they share carries the first couple of games, and Wells will gain carries as the year progresses until he is the clearcut starter (likely halfway through the season)

Eerily similar to the Jonathan Stewart talk last pre season. Let's hope Hightower doesn't turn out to be a pro bowler this year......

Two differences:

Hightower has not been told he is the starter going into the season.

DeAngelo was.

Hightower does not have a monster line blocking for him. DeAngelo does.

 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .

2009 ARI 32 ?

2008 ARI 32 32

2007 KCC 32 16

2006 DET 32 31

2005 ARI 32 30

2004 OAK 32 29

2003 DET 32 19

2002 CHI 32 18

2001 CLE 32 23

2000 SDC 31 20

1999 CLE 31 30

1998 NOS 30 18

1997 ARI 30 21

1996 NOS 30 27

1995 NYJ 30 23

1994 ATL 28 27

Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .

 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .2009 ARI 32 ?2008 ARI 32 322007 KCC 32 162006 DET 32 312005 ARI 32 302004 OAK 32 292003 DET 32 192002 CHI 32 182001 CLE 32 232000 SDC 31 201999 CLE 31 301998 NOS 30 181997 ARI 30 211996 NOS 30 271995 NYJ 30 231994 ATL 28 27Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .
Out of curiousity, which of those teams brought in a 1st round or big FA RB the following year and which did nothing and hoped it was going to magically fix itself?
 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .2009 ARI 32 ?2008 ARI 32 322007 KCC 32 162006 DET 32 312005 ARI 32 302004 OAK 32 292003 DET 32 192002 CHI 32 182001 CLE 32 232000 SDC 31 201999 CLE 31 301998 NOS 30 181997 ARI 30 211996 NOS 30 271995 NYJ 30 231994 ATL 28 27Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .
Out of curiousity, which of those teams brought in a 1st round or big FA RB the following year and which did nothing and hoped it was going to magically fix itself?
98 ARI added Adrian Murrell99 NOS drafted Ricky Williams01 SDC drafted LaDainian Tomlinson02 CLE drafted William Green04 DET drafted Kevin Jones05 OAK added Lamont Jordan06 ARI added Edgerrin James07 DET added Tatum Bell
 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .

2009 ARI 32 ?

2008 ARI 32 32

2007 KCC 32 16

2006 DET 32 31

2005 ARI 32 30

2004 OAK 32 29

2003 DET 32 19

2002 CHI 32 18

2001 CLE 32 23

2000 SDC 31 20

1999 CLE 31 30

1998 NOS 30 18

1997 ARI 30 21

1996 NOS 30 27

1995 NYJ 30 23

1994 ATL 28 27

Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .
Out of curiousity, which of those teams brought in a 1st round or big FA RB the following year and which did nothing and hoped it was going to magically fix itself?
98 ARI added Adrian Murrell99 NOS drafted Ricky Williams

01 SDC drafted LaDainian Tomlinson

02 CLE drafted William Green

04 DET drafted Kevin Jones

05 OAK added Lamont Jordan

06 ARI added Edgerrin James

07 DET added Tatum Bell
I don't really think any of these qualify as 1st rounders or big FA additions.
 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .

2009 ARI 32 ?

2008 ARI 32 32

2007 KCC 32 16

2006 DET 32 31

2005 ARI 32 30

2004 OAK 32 29

2003 DET 32 19

2002 CHI 32 18

2001 CLE 32 23

2000 SDC 31 20

1999 CLE 31 30

1998 NOS 30 18

1997 ARI 30 21

1996 NOS 30 27

1995 NYJ 30 23

1994 ATL 28 27

Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .
Out of curiousity, which of those teams brought in a 1st round or big FA RB the following year and which did nothing and hoped it was going to magically fix itself?
98 ARI added Adrian Murrell99 NOS drafted Ricky Williams

01 SDC drafted LaDainian Tomlinson

02 CLE drafted William Green

04 DET drafted Kevin Jones

05 OAK added Lamont Jordan

06 ARI added Edgerrin James

07 DET added Tatum Bell
I don't really think any of these qualify as 1st rounders or big FA additions.
Murell was a fantasy RB1 with the Jets (believe it or not) and was coming off of back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons. James was coming off a 1,500 yard rushing season. How coould Edge not be considered a big FA addition?
 
In the salary cap era, here are how all the teams with the lowest rushing yardage total fared the following year in terms of team rushing yardage ranking . . .

2009 ARI 32 ?

2008 ARI 32 32

2007 KCC 32 16

2006 DET 32 31

2005 ARI 32 30

2004 OAK 32 29

2003 DET 32 19

2002 CHI 32 18

2001 CLE 32 23

2000 SDC 31 20

1999 CLE 31 30

1998 NOS 30 18

1997 ARI 30 21

1996 NOS 30 27

1995 NYJ 30 23

1994 ATL 28 27

Clearly what happened in the past in this case does not automatically predict the future. It should be interesting how much Wells can move the bar for the Cards this year . . .
Out of curiousity, which of those teams brought in a 1st round or big FA RB the following year and which did nothing and hoped it was going to magically fix itself?
98 ARI added Adrian Murrell99 NOS drafted Ricky Williams

01 SDC drafted LaDainian Tomlinson

02 CLE drafted William Green

04 DET drafted Kevin Jones

05 OAK added Lamont Jordan

06 ARI added Edgerrin James

07 DET added Tatum Bell
I don't really think any of these qualify as 1st rounders or big FA additions.
Murell was a fantasy RB1 with the Jets (believe it or not) and was coming off of back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons. James was coming off a 1,500 yard rushing season. How coould Edge not be considered a big FA addition?
Murell was coming off these seasons:301/1249/6 (4.1 YPA)

300/1086/7 (3.6 YPA)

I don't know. My memory of 1997 isn't all that great but I sure as heck don't recall Murell being any big thing and those numbers are average at best IMO.

Edge I may be alone on, but I thought he was on decline when Indy let him go. Sue he was an upgrade but if Wells pans out Wells will clearly be a much bigger upgrade.

 
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Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I dont know what Wells will do this year, but I can say he is much, much, much better than Hightower and 2009 Edge.
 
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Darko M said:
Back to Wells...the OL returns unchanged from last season, no? The entire team averaged 3.5 yards per carry. A telling stat as to their capacity to run is looking at first down outside their opponents 10 yard line...they were 4th worst in the league.
Good point, why is this ignored by those on the Beanie bandwagon? Or do the Beanie fans just think he is that good that he can overcome the obstacles that prevented Hightower and James from being effective last season?
I dont know what Wells will do this year, but I can say he is much, much, much better than Hightower and 2009 Edge.
I know, Wells is killing me? Him and Ronnie Brown are the biggest mysteries to me going into this season. Both high boom/bust candidates for me.
 
I'm not sure there ever was another 1500 yard runner that left the following year as a free agent and signed with another team. He was 27 at the time. I still have to think Edge was a big FA acquisition.

I'm not saying Murrell was a huge acquiaition, but he was still a halfway decent back going to a team that couldn't run the ball. And apparently some people consider Wells a huge addition (which I'm hesitant to descibe him as such just yet).

Looking at it from a rookie RB perspective, there have been 27 rookie RB that have scored 175 fantasy points in a season in the past 15 years (so a shade under 2 a year). I picked that number as that generally would rank in the Top 15-20 in any given year. Of those, 14 were first round picks (I counted McGahee as a rookie cause he didn't play his first year).

I believe that there were 48 RB drafted in the first round in that time, so 14 of the 47 scored 175 points or more (basically a shade under 30%).

Like I said, it should make for an interersting season . . .

 
I'm not sure there ever was another 1500 yard runner that left the following year as a free agent and signed with another team. He was 27 at the time. I still have to think Edge was a big FA acquisition.

I'm not saying Murrell was a huge acquiaition, but he was still a halfway decent back going to a team that couldn't run the ball. And apparently some people consider Wells a huge addition (which I'm hesitant to descibe him as such just yet).

Looking at it from a rookie RB perspective, there have been 27 rookie RB that have scored 175 fantasy points in a season in the past 15 years (so a shade under 2 a year). I picked that number as that generally would rank in the Top 15-20 in any given year. Of those, 14 were first round picks (I counted McGahee as a rookie cause he didn't play his first year).

I believe that there were 48 RB drafted in the first round in that time, so 14 of the 47 scored 175 points or more (basically a shade under 30%).

Like I said, it should make for an interersting season . . .
I guess this is really what separates guys on the issue more than anything. I'm a pretty big believer in Wells ability. Now staying healthy may be a totally different story. However, I feel he is the most physically gifted runner in this class and a guy who can be a game changer/impact player. If you don't see Wells as that kind of guy then it makes sense to not believe in a Arz rushing turnaround.
 
Eerily similar to the Jonathan Stewart talk last pre season. Let's hope Hightower doesn't turn out to be a pro bowler this year......
Let's also not forget that DeAngelo was a 1st round pick. He averaged almost 5 YPC in 2007 and over 4.1 YPC as a rookie in 2006 (Meanwhile, the starter Foster averaged <4 YPC in 2006 and 3.5 YPC in 2007). I think most would agree that it was opportunity, not talent, holding DeAngelo back. Meanwhile, Hightower was a 5th round pick who averaged 2.79 YPC while the supposedly washed up Edge averaged 3.86 YPC on the same team.

I'm not saying, just saying.

 
I thought I would revive this thread with the recent news that Wells has tweaked his already injured ankle. What is the general opinion of him. While he is ranked #2 by most in the rookie rankings he seems to really be slipping.

In rookie drafts it seems like he has fallen as far as #6 or #7. Where is he going in your rookie drafts?

Moreno

McCoy

Brown

Harvin

Crabtree

Wells

This is how it looks in our rookie draft. McCoy and Brown are interchangeable.

 
Its a sprained ankle. Its not a blown knee. Its not a broken bone. Its a sprained ankle. Only if its a high ankle sprain will he likely miss any of the season.

Many first round rookie RBs have missed most of training camp because of contract holdouts, and still started within a few weeks.

Hightower isnt a threat. He's only a placeholder.

Anybody who has dropped Wells even one spot, especially in a dynasty league, isnt very wise.

 
Wells is getting crushed on the message boards and in the news. I cant wait for the season to start so he can proove all of those peeps wrong. Dude, was arguably the best RB to come out this year....short memories........

 
best RB in a weak RB class is like being the tallest midget. I think Shady McCoy is the real deal(and I dislike U of Pitt fwiw). Give him a year or 2 to get stronger and he'll replace Westy and no one will notice the difference.

I see Wells coming in around 400 yards 2-3 TDs. Arz will only rush for about 10 TDs total this year. Maybe next year...but The Wiz loves Stephens-Howling, he is cat quick and can be the type back a spread offense needs.

 
I have the first pick in our rookie draft ( Of course dynasty ) .

I paid to get from 2 to 1 to get Moreno , but now im am hesitating .

Fortunately i can wait , i dont need the pick to step in my starting lineup this season .

 
I picked him at our rookie draft back in May at 1.02 and I was starting to worry a little, especially after selling Kevin Smith (for future picks) and Portis (in one of the deals that netted me those two picks) this offseason.

I feel much better after seeing him yesterday. He looked especially good on that 20 yd TD run - and showed good vision on both TDs. Health is still a concern, but man that talent looks like it's going to translate, and in an offense like this if he wins the job he will have some serious running lanes.

After watching Hightower last year and in the first couple of weeks here, and then seeing Wells get at it last night, I don't see how Hightower conceivably keeps him off the field barring injury. Beanie just looks like a more dynamic player.

 
Beanie looked very good last night in extended action. He had good vision, good moves, and good ability to move the pile.

IMO he is on the 40 side of a 60/40 split to start the season, but those flip flop to 70 Beanie 30 Hightower by week 5 or 6.

Just as long as he can stay healthy!

 
Beenie believes he could have played better.  Per KFFL:

CBSSports.com reports Arizona Cardinals RB Chris Wells said following the team's preseason game Friday, Aug. 28, he still has a long way to go as he battles back from an ankle injury. "I felt like I didn't have a lot of burst tonight. I have to get a lot better, and I have to get my timing right," Wells said. Wells rushed for 46 yards with two touchdowns in the game. 
 
There is no comparision in Wells to Hightower. Beannie will get every touch there is to get by week 4. Coach Wiz is not the type of guy who gives playing time to keep everyone happy. He banished Edge to the bench for 3/4 of the season last year!

You can see the vast difference in talent from Wells to Hightower in just a couple of carriers. Wells looks like an NFL RB, has that extra burst to get to the corner, see's that LB coming into the hole and side steps for 2 or 3 more yards. Hightower stutter steps in the hole and can not out run DE's to the corner. Considering where Wells is being drafted in FF leagues, he could put up top 10 numbers for a very low price.

 
Bottom line it's all about the "glass" tag. If he can stay healthy, there will be an instant move to start putting some wheels on the wagon and people will start piling on (and of course will be obnoxious about how they knew health wouldn't be a problem). It was pre-season, yeah, but you can see the kid's got talent.

 
Bottom line it's all about the "glass" tag. If he can stay healthy, there will be an instant move to start putting some wheels on the wagon and people will start piling on (and of course will be obnoxious about how they knew health wouldn't be a problem). It was pre-season, yeah, but you can see the kid's got talent.
Umm, a lot of us have been on the wagon for months.
 
Bottom line it's all about the "glass" tag. If he can stay healthy, there will be an instant move to start putting some wheels on the wagon and people will start piling on (and of course will be obnoxious about how they knew health wouldn't be a problem). It was pre-season, yeah, but you can see the kid's got talent.
Umm, a lot of us have been on the wagon for months.
:mellow: Every couple of years, there is always a rookie who people seem to criticize because of the "injury history". Adrian Peterson comes to mind as a recent example. Football is a physical sport, a running back takes a pounding. Take a look at injury reports each week in the NFL.
 
Bottom line it's all about the "glass" tag. If he can stay healthy, there will be an instant move to start putting some wheels on the wagon and people will start piling on (and of course will be obnoxious about how they knew health wouldn't be a problem). It was pre-season, yeah, but you can see the kid's got talent.
Umm, a lot of us have been on the wagon for months.
Yeah, but there were no wheels...
 
There is no comparision in Wells to Hightower. Beannie will get every touch there is to get by week 4. Coach Wiz is not the type of guy who gives playing time to keep everyone happy. He banished Edge to the bench for 3/4 of the season last year!You can see the vast difference in talent from Wells to Hightower in just a couple of carriers. Wells looks like an NFL RB, has that extra burst to get to the corner, see's that LB coming into the hole and side steps for 2 or 3 more yards. Hightower stutter steps in the hole and can not out run DE's to the corner. Considering where Wells is being drafted in FF leagues, he could put up top 10 numbers for a very low price.
No comparison???Hightower looked great playing the entire 1st quarter against a fresh Defense. Hightower average 6.3 yards a carry to Beanies 6.6 yards. Beanie looked great, however so has Hightower who is the starter being drafted later.
 
Beanie looked good, but I wouldn't go too far. The Packers defense is a work in progress, and Hightower ran all over them as well.

 
I have the first pick in our rookie draft ( Of course dynasty ) .I paid to get from 2 to 1 to get Moreno , but now im am hesitating .Fortunately i can wait , i dont need the pick to step in my starting lineup this season .
Yeah, and the guy you traded with got something of value from you and if you choose Moreno, he also gets the best RB in the draft. But hey, Moreno will still produce very well in that system. In the end, for fantasy purposes, it could be a wash or a negligible difference. But in talent and overall ability as a runner, Wells >>> Moreno. Yes, I mean significantly better with the use of the 3 signs. If I'm sitting at #2 in a draft like this, I stand pat and allow the first owner to make the choice, unless what I'm giving up is very minimal. Most guys will draft Moreno at #1. Moreno is not a must-have in this draft ala Adrian Peterson a couple of years ago. Beanie is not quite on the level of Peterson, but could be closer than many think and he may turn out to be a must-have.My projections for his rookie year, now that my drafts are over and I have acquired my guy Beanie in quite a few of them...245 carries1150 rush yds9-10 rush TDs27 rec210 yds2 TDsYep.....Lights it up, pretty much!
 
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Beanie looked good, but I wouldn't go too far. The Packers defense is a work in progress, and Hightower ran all over them as well.
There is no doubt that Beanie is a far superior RB to Hightower. Not even remotely close. Preseason stats don't mean a thing. In comparing the runners the talent disparity is obvious. Vision, burst, cutback ability, quick feet, not to mention top-end speed, all favor Beanie by 3.5 miles over Hightower. Everyone assumed that Hightower had the power and goal-lin/short yardage advantage over Beanie. Nuh-uh. About the only thing he may have over Beanie is receiving ability and possibly pass-pro, but that is still to be determined. This year, Hightower will get some carries, and probably will start the season off as the starter. But by midseason, the cream will have risen and Beanie will leave Hightower in the dust. This kid is headed for stardom if he keeps working hard. BOOK IT!The most critical bit of information that came out all offseason about Beanie and that should have alleviated any doubts about this kid was when it was reported that he had been working out very intensely with the beast and true professional Larry Fitzgerald and that he had reported to camp in a very lean and chiseled 224 lbs. Right then, that's all I needed to hear, I'm actually glad that the ankle injury thing cropped up as most observers bit on that and forgot to take notice of the important details released earlier. A lean, great attitude and work ethic, 224 lb. Beanie will be much more quick and explosive than he ever was in college. I think you all saw that last night, If you didn't, then you better ask somebody.....The kid was impressive and got to the corners and into the secondary, very fast.
 
Beanie looked very good last night - much better than Hightower, IMO. His TD run was awesome, and there is no way that Hightower makes that run.

I have not been on the Beanie bandwagon, but I'm preparing to climb on.

 
There is no comparision in Wells to Hightower. Beannie will get every touch there is to get by week 4. Coach Wiz is not the type of guy who gives playing time to keep everyone happy. He banished Edge to the bench for 3/4 of the season last year!You can see the vast difference in talent from Wells to Hightower in just a couple of carriers. Wells looks like an NFL RB, has that extra burst to get to the corner, see's that LB coming into the hole and side steps for 2 or 3 more yards. Hightower stutter steps in the hole and can not out run DE's to the corner. Considering where Wells is being drafted in FF leagues, he could put up top 10 numbers for a very low price.
No comparison???Hightower looked great playing the entire 1st quarter against a fresh Defense. Hightower average 6.3 yards a carry to Beanies 6.6 yards. Beanie looked great, however so has Hightower who is the starter being drafted later.
I had Hightower drafted late in a keeper league last year, so I paid close attention to him. He sucks. I will not draft him this year. His ceiling is very low, as well as his lack of opportunity.
 

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