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Player Spotlight: Marshawn Lynch (1 Viewer)

You think that Lynch can be a top 10 RB in PPR in Buffalo when Willis was only RB26 last year? So, you think that Lynch is THAT MUCH better than McGahee?? :goodposting:
McGahee was only 39 points away from RB#10, and he missed two games and most of a third--against, by the way, two of the worst run defenses in the league. Thomas had over 100 yards both games, plus a TD. So it's not that far-fetched.
In PPR, which is what EBF referenced, Mcgahee was RB26 in ppg and total points. In PPR leagues, the difference between Willis and RB10 was over 70 points. In PPR, the points per game difference was 4.65 points per game. You might re-check your numbers above.
All of the stats above can be found at: PPG: http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?po...amp;statstype=1

Total Points: http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?po...amp;statstype=1

 
How many rookie RBs in last 5 years do you think have finished in the top 10? Two. Drew and Portis. Do you think Lynch will have that good of season? That is asking a bit too much.
Saying something is within reach (Lynch could put up top ten numbers) and saying Lynch will be a top ten running back are two different things. I think Lynch possibly could be a top 10 rb, although I would bet against it. I was never asserting that. I just think that he will have a better year, barring injury than McGahee did last year in a PPR league. While only two rookie rb's have finished top 10 according to your stats, Domanick Davis (Williams) just finished 14 in standard scoring (with 47 catches) in 2003 and Addai finished 11th in standard scoring with 40 catches): in PPR they were awfully close to top 10. As has been pointed out, it happens on average once a year. Lynch is talented (top 15 pick), the Bills like him, he can catch the ball and there isn't a whole lot in front of him.
 
How many rookie RBs in last 5 years do you think have finished in the top 10? Two. Drew and Portis. Do you think Lynch will have that good of season? That is asking a bit too much.
Saying something is within reach (Lynch could put up top ten numbers) and saying Lynch will be a top ten running back are two different things. I think Lynch possibly could be a top 10 rb, although I would bet against it. I was never asserting that. I just think that he will have a better year, barring injury than McGahee did last year in a PPR league. While only two rookie rb's have finished top 10 according to your stats, Domanick Davis (Williams) just finished 14 in standard scoring (with 47 catches) in 2003 and Addai finished 11th in standard scoring with 40 catches): in PPR they were awfully close to top 10. As has been pointed out, it happens on average once a year. Lynch is talented (top 15 pick), the Bills like him, he can catch the ball and there isn't a whole lot in front of him.
My point was that Drew had a great year and was RB8 in non-PPR scoring. It just takes a very good season to produce those types of numbers. Can Lynch be a top 10 RB? I do not know. But, some in this thread are being quite liberal with the facts. I think the Buffalo offense will be more of a reason Lynch does not achieve top 10 than anything else. It seems that some offenses have an easier time producing top 10 RBs than others.
 
You think that Lynch can be a top 10 RB in PPR in Buffalo when Willis was only RB26 last year? So, you think that Lynch is THAT MUCH better than McGahee?? :thumbup:
McGahee was only 39 points away from RB#10, and he missed two games and most of a third--against, by the way, two of the worst run defenses in the league. Thomas had over 100 yards both games, plus a TD. So it's not that far-fetched.
In PPR, which is what EBF referenced, Mcgahee was RB26 in ppg and total points. In PPR leagues, the difference between Willis and RB10 was over 70 points. In PPR, the points per game difference was 4.65 points per game. You might re-check your numbers above.
All of the stats above can be found at: PPG: http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?po...amp;statstype=1

Total Points: http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?po...amp;statstype=1
In those links Reggie Bush is also a rookie top rb.
 
How many rookie RBs in last 5 years do you think have finished in the top 10? Two. Drew and Portis. Do you think Lynch will have that good of season? That is asking a bit too much.
Saying something is within reach (Lynch could put up top ten numbers) and saying Lynch will be a top ten running back are two different things. I think Lynch possibly could be a top 10 rb, although I would bet against it. I was never asserting that. I just think that he will have a better year, barring injury than McGahee did last year in a PPR league. While only two rookie rb's have finished top 10 according to your stats, Domanick Davis (Williams) just finished 14 in standard scoring (with 47 catches) in 2003 and Addai finished 11th in standard scoring with 40 catches): in PPR they were awfully close to top 10. As has been pointed out, it happens on average once a year. Lynch is talented (top 15 pick), the Bills like him, he can catch the ball and there isn't a whole lot in front of him.
My point was that Drew had a great year and was RB8 in non-PPR scoring. It just takes a very good season to produce those types of numbers. Can Lynch be a top 10 RB? I do not know. But, some in this thread are being quite liberal with the facts. I think the Buffalo offense will be more of a reason Lynch does not achieve top 10 than anything else. It seems that some offenses have an easier time producing top 10 RBs than others.
I think that Lynch's natural receiving ability will really help him stand out in PPR leagues in a way that KJ's did last season. In non-ppr, he may be fairly pedestrian his rookie year, but I like his long term value if Buffalo's offense stablizes.
 
rookie RBs don't do anything special in their first season, for the most part..
Since 1990, there have been 14 rookie RB seasons with more than 200 fantasy points--that's almost one per year, and that's significant value. 200 fantasy points is around the top-10 border. It's definitely worth figuring out which rookie RB will perform the best.
Agreed. RB is probably the easiest position to learn. Anyone who has the physical and mental skills needed to excel can step in and be immediately productive. I think Peterson is a more impressive talent than Lynch, but Marshawn has a very real chance of winning Rookie of the Year. He should start from day one and get the lion's share of the carries. There's always an element of risk with rookies, but you could do a lot worse than Lynch as your RB2.

The Bills lack the supporting cast necessary to give him an Edgerrin James style rookie year, but he could sneak into the top ten in PPR.
You think that Lynch can be a top 10 RB in PPR in Buffalo when Willis was only RB26 last year? So, you think that Lynch is THAT MUCH better than McGahee?? :shock:
I didn't say it's likely. I said it's possible. I actually think McGahee has a lot of raw talent, but he's a moron and he didn't seem to play up to his abilities last year. At the very least, Lynch should catch more passes. The Bills probably don't have the offensive firepower needed to produce a top 10 RB, but any starter who receives the lion's share of his team's carries has a chance at the top 10.

 
Lynch IMO is alot like a young Marshall Faulk. Maybe he never end up close but both were known as great recievers as well as runners , similar running style.

I see a upsode vale here of 320 carries 1250 yards 9 TD's 50 rec 500 yards and 2 TD's

low side of 280 carries 1050 yards 6 TDs 30 rec 350 yards 1 TD

 
** Chris Brown of Buffalobills.com reports Bills HC **** Jauron was planning to use a running-back-by-committee approach when they talked in March. “We think it's in everybody's best interest that we do have more than one back that carries the load," said Jauron on March 16th, referring to Anthony Thomas, Shaud Williams, and Fred Jackson. Then Buffalo drafted RB Marshawn Lynch in the 1st round.

Does that change Jauron’s intentions?

“It hasn't,” said Jauron last Friday. “It's just more competition. I still would like, if we have the option, to run the ball by committee. Clearly inside that group the players will decide. We'd like to have two or three guys that perform well enough that you'll rotate them and keep them healthy. It will figure itself out.”

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Back in mid-March Buffalobills.com asked Bills head coach **** Jauron
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about which way he was leaning in terms of his approach to the running game. Would there be a featured back or would Buffalo's ground attack be running back by committee in 2007?

Jauron, at the time, was favoring a group effort.

"We think it's in everybody's best interest that we do have more than one back that carries the load," said Jauron back in March. "If you do that and you have that kind of depth, you can rotate them, you can keep them fresh and they don't get as beat up. You can go with a guy that is a little bit hotter on a given day and sometimes it's a different guy. There's no reason why it shouldn't work that way, because every day is not your best day."

At the time Anthony Thomas
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, Fred Jackson
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and Shaud Williams
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were the only running backs on the roster. A little over a month later Buffalo added a pair of running backs in the draft selecting Marshawn Lynch
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with their top pick (12) and Dwayne Wright
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in the fourth round. Free agent Josh Scobey
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was also added to the mix.

Fast forward to the close of minicamp after Jauron and his staff have had an opportunity to see the new additions up close and personal. Has Jauron's approach to Buffalo's running game changed?

"It hasn't," said Jauron. "It's just more competition. I still would like, if we have the option, to run the ball by committee. Clearly inside that group the players will decide. They make all the decisions because we make judgments, but they make the plays. They'll win their carries by performance. We'd like to have two or three guys that perform well enough that you'll rotate them and keep them healthy. It will figure itself out."

What was once a position filled with questions is now a position of strength with Lynch expected to be the marquee addition.

"I think we're expecting a lot out of him," said J.P. Losman
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. "Especially with Marshawn's ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. He just brings such a good energy to the offense and such a competitive nature and he's very coachable. His athleticism and his running ability are good to see. We're excited."

"He sure looks to have a lot of different abilities," said offensive coordinator Steve Fairchild
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of Lynch. "We haven't put the pads on so we're still finding out what he can do. He looks to be not only a tremendous runner, but a guy that can come out of the backfield and do some things in space. I'm really excited to be honest with you, and we'll just see where it goes."

With Lynch's versatility logic would say that he should plan on being on the field a lot, even if he's not always lined up in the backfield. But with a combination of power and elusiveness that's superior to every other back on the roster he figures to see more work than the others that will make up the final roster at the running back position.

But how does this sit with Anthony Thomas? Believe it or not A-Train is on board with the committee approach. The veteran back has been through enough 16-game seasons to know the pounding an NFL running back typically takes.

"It's the NFL," said Thomas. "One guy carrying the load for a whole season can get banged up. The odds are that guy is going to sit out at least a couple of games. When you have some guys that are splitting time they won't get banged up so much and they can last a little longer."

Lynch is fully aware of the expectations being placed upon him as the team's top pick especially with the former starter at running back traded to Baltimore. But Lynch is also on board with sharing the load.

"With the running backs here I felt that they were going to give me some help so I don't feel that it's just on me alone to come in as the number one pick with the former starting running back leaving," said Lynch. "There's a whole bunch of guys back there that are willing to help and I know they'll be looking for me to be there for them when I'm called upon."

The wild card in the mix is Dwayne Wright. A player that showed he's more than just a power runner in the spring camps. A natural receiver out of the backfield with some burst and shiftiness Wright should factor into the rotation in the backfield with Thomas.

"He's a good tough-nosed, downhill runner," said Fairchild. "He looks a little more elusive and is able to function in the passing game better than I thought he might. We'll just see."

"'D' Wright showed me a lot of things that I wouldn't imagine he could do like coming out of the backfield running those same routes just as good, if not better," said Lynch. "So it's going to be a fight back there for that running back position."

But it's a good dilemma for the Bills to have as Thomas sees it.

"The thing is if you can use more than one guy then the other guy can do other things on the field," said Thomas. "You can also use them at the same time. You could put one back in the backfield and split another out. Whatever they think is best for the team."

With so many backs bringing several skills to the table, it's created a lot of options for Fairchild and the offensive staff.

"We have guys that can catch balls, throw blocks, a first down back, second down back," said Wright. "We can put a different back in at any time, so it helps."

And it might explain why Jauron is holding firm to his idea of a committee backfield. With talent now overflowing at the position his offensive staff will be looking to mix and match backs and combinations therein instead of just pounding away with just one featured rusher.

"I believe in that," said Jauron. "I would like our guys to believe in that. It doesn't cast a shadow on the guy that's not in there at a given time. Anybody that we have we've got to have great confidence in them for them to be here at all. So we'll give them the ball. They'll perform and we'll lean more on one or the other or however it works out."

The only thing that could change Jauron's thinking is a player that shows he ranks considerably higher on the talent meter.

"If you have one that's just so good then he's got to get the bulk of the work because it's in the best interest of your team to get that guy the ball more than the other ones," Jauron said.

If that's going to be anyone it will be Lynch, but the odds are in his rookie year with all the added responsibilities he'll have in the passing game, Jauron and Fairchild will be mindful to not overload the rookie.

Perhaps Thomas will handle a third down role in the backfield, while Lynch is split out wide. Wright might be given the short yardage and goal line carries. However it works out Lynch is expected to get the most work on Sundays, but by how wide a margin will come down to performance on the field.

 
l0lz0r. One can certainly pick out the people who drafted Lynch in this thread. You're kidding yourself if you think he's going to get 15-20 carries from the get go.

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Updated predictions based on :shrug: comments.

 
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l0lz0r. One can certainly pick out the people who drafted Lynch in this thread. You're kidding yourself if you think he's going to get 15-20 carries from the get go.200/680/240/200/0
And you're kidding yourself if you think he's gonna average only 3.4 yards a carry. And he will score more than two TD's all year. It kinda seems like you can tell the people who don't own him in any leagues and are a bit jealous they couldn't snag him.
 
l0lz0r. One can certainly pick out the people who drafted Lynch in this thread. You're kidding yourself if you think he's going to get 15-20 carries from the get go.200/680/240/200/0
And you're kidding yourself if you think he's gonna average only 3.4 yards a carry. And he will score more than two TD's all year. It kinda seems like you can tell the people who don't own him in any leagues and are a bit jealous they couldn't snag him.
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Lynch is just one of those players who started out the preseason with a lot of hype. People who drafted early on in the preseason probably grabbed him in the early 3rd round. Heck, in a dynasty rookie draft he was taken ahead of Adrian Peterson (a league of mine).

Simply put, with the questions surrounding the Bills offense (and whole team for that matter), he has dropped significantly on the cheat sheets this preseason every week. I think it's deservedly so at this point.

 

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