Player Spotlight: Vince Young (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2007 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Vince Young, QB, Tennessee Titans

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[Ministry of Pain]

3,000 passing

750 rushing

25 total TD

 

[BassNBrew]

1400-9-10 passing

300-3 rushing

Season ending injury during week 8 allows Vince plenty of time to enjoy his Madden endorsement money.

 

[Domination]

1400-9-10 passing

300-3 rushing

Season ending injury during week 8 allows Vince plenty of time to enjoy his Madden endorsement money.

The curse lives on

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Will be a runner with serious fantasy impact. Leading many to the playoffs.

He will also kill teams with at least one terrible fantasy playoff performance.

3200 passing

19 TDs

22 Ints

800 rushing

9 TDs

Making him the #2 QB.

I wasnt worried about any injury until Madden reared its ugly head.

Its possible, but Im not projecting an injury.

 

[SoloMatisse]

I dont know what to make of Vince Young in '07 with the Madden curse looming. First of all, he has no business even being on the cover. I mean, since when does 12TDs and 13INTS as a QB seem worthy for a Madden cover?? Seven rushing scores didnt hurt, but seriously. Not good enough #s from a rookie to earn Jinx of the Year honors. For that reason, I think he'll avoid the mysterious jinx and gain 'unaffected' 2nd year QB #s.....#s that will reflect an EXTREMELY weak O with little WR help, no running back to speak of, and with much advanced leaguewide gameplanning designed to eliminate his scrambling......this is the only way this man can beat teams. Personally, I wouldnt draft him next year because of just the threat of the Madden curse because I dont think it would be worth it, but what do I know? I guess I just dont like David Givens, Brandon Jones and Lendale White all that much.

Madden-free projections......

2900yds 55% completion 16TDs 16INTs 700rushing yds 5TDs

#s affected by the curse.......

NOTHING - if it happens, it may as well happen in the preseason so Vince cant help this team at all next year, and they can get him some early round draft help the following year. Seriously, Michael Griffin in the first round with THOSE starting WRs??? Youve got to be kidding me!

 

[BassNBrew]

I wonder if Wood is going to have two sets of projections...Madden curse impacted numbers and Madden curse free numbers.

 

[nygiants56]

Madden curse be damned, opponents are no doubt studying film on VY and learning how to stop him, as we speak. I remember Kordell Stewart looking all-world for a year then fell to pieces. in 1997 , he threw for 3020 yards, 21 td/17 int.

the following year, he threw for 2560, 11td/18 int..and never recovered.

similar things will happen with VY this season, IMO..I just don't get all the hype about this guy, I don't view him as a top 10 fantasy QB. Most of his damage is done with his legs, but is he closer to Vick or to Kordell Stewart?!

I don't see his stats taking a quantum leap forward in 2007, if anything, he's likely headed for a sophomore slump..the lack of a solid running game,one that Trav Henry supplied last season, will hurt VY's production in 2007..I don't see C Henry or Fatdale White as being capable RB's who will keep defenses 'honest'. If the Titans can't successfully run the football, VY will see 8 in the box, and they'll blitz the daylights out of him. if that happens, you'll see him approaching 20 ints..

 

[shadyridr]

He's basically the new Michael Vick. Should be a bottom line QB1. He has horrible WRs so his passing numbers wont be very good but his running ability will be enough to make him a solid starter. Especially if your league doesnt penalize for turnovers.

2800 pass yds, 14 tds, 13 ints, 600 yds rush, 6 tds

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

One of the best college football players ever. Rookie of the Year in the NFL last year. He takes the field in just his 2nd year. The Titans didn't seem to add much to their team thru the draft but that won't stop this guy's natural progression to becoming one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

As far as this year's stats:

2950 yards passing

16 Td's 15 int's

700 yards rushing and 8 td's on the ground

 

[Hawk]

One of the best college football players ever. Rookie of the Year in the NFL last year. He takes the field in just his 2nd year. The Titans didn't seem to add much to their team thru the draft but that won't stop this guy's natural progression to becoming one of the best quarterbacks in the league.As far as this year's stats:2950 yards passing16 Td's 15 int's700 yards rushing and 8 td's on the ground

Excellent posting, those numbers are pretty much exactly what I would predict. And you can add #1 high school player in the nation to your list. So let's see...#1 HS player in the country, #1 college player in the country (shoulda won the Heisman), and then rookie of the year in the NFL. People have predicted him to fail at every level, and at every level, he has succeeded. It is really hard for me to imagine why people would predict a sophmore slump for Vince. Anything can happen (Madden curse doesn't help), but the trend for Vince over his whole career is certainly not regression or failure.

 

[guderian]

Are people really that serious about the Madden Curse?

The Titans had 447 pass attempts last year for 2,748 yards. Young averaged 6.16 per attempt, however he averaged a very good 6.94 in the second half of the season. If you split that difference and assume he averages 6.5 for the season on 447 att, you get 2900 yards. I think he is good for 18 TDs next year. Those stats alone would put him as the #22 fantasy QB.

Now you look at his rushing stats. Young ran 83 times for 552 yards and 7 TDs in 2006. For the second half of 2006 Young ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs. If you assume that he does that over the course of an ENTIRE season that moves him up to the #9 QB. If you annualize it (830 yards and 10 TDs) then he's the #2 QB. If you split the difference (622 yards and 7.5 TDs), he's the #7 QB. Again, this is using passing stats that put him at the #22 QB (2900/18).

I think people look at him and think "Vick". Well Vick had some great FF years. If you look at Vick's per game rushing stats over his career, then you get 834 yards on average, per full season. However, you only

get 4.5 TDs per season. Vick's best year in rushing TDs was 8 and that was 5 years ago. Since then he's had 1, 3, 6 and 2 (Despite rushing for 1k yards). Young had 7 TDs last year despite only starting part of the season.

Plus, I think that Young is a much better passer than Vick. Young progressed each year at UT, and he further progressed as a passer during the second half of 2006. Also, I looked at his last 8 games and he completed passes to, on average, 7 different receivers per game. This is a rookie QB that has a solid understanding of his team's offense, can read defenses and select targets. He's not Manning, of course, but there is no reason that Young can't quickly become an 'average' NFL passing QB. Young was a 3-yr starter at UT and I think Vick struggled in the NFL because he lacked the college experience as a passer. I think the better comparison for Young is McNabb with slightly better rushing numbers and slightly worse passing numbers.

Positive factors:

1. Another year in the NFL and in the Titans offensive system.

2. Young faced one of the toughest fantasy passing SOS last year with defenses that allowed, on average, 6.5% fewer passing points. Regression to the mean dictates that he'll face an easier schedule this year.

3. Young's passing proficiency improved every year at Texas and I expect that to continue in the NFL based on Young's work ethic.

Negative factors:

1. Lack of surrounding talent.

BTW, I never buy into the "teams have an entire offseason to study tape and game plan against him". Young isn't a one-trick wonder. If teams game plan to stop Young's rushing ability he will beat them with the pass.

2900/18 passing

620/8 rushing

 

[Thorpe]

2911 passing

15 TDs

22 Ints

442 rushing

5 TDs

 

[kensat30]

Sorry about the lack of projections, but I won't draft this guy simply because of the curse. There are plenty of other QBs out there without impending doom hanging over them going in 2007.

 

[Da Guru]

Sorry about the lack of projections, but I won't draft this guy simply because of the curse. There are plenty of other QBs out there without impending doom hanging over them going in 2007.

I would not take Young unless he fell to me late.I can see some huge games followed by 80 tards passing and zero TDs.

 

[enfuego]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :

3400 passing

22 TDs

19 Ints

777 rushing

7 TDs

 

[LBH]

he reminds me more of a young mcnabb than vick

3000yds passing 18tds 16ints

700yds rushing 9tds

 

[BassNBrew]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :3400 passing22 TDs19 Ints777 rushing7 TDs

The only gelling he'll be doing will involve the cast that he'll end up wearing.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :3400 passing22 TDs19 Ints777 rushing7 TDs

That would have made him the #1 QB in 4 out of the past 5 seasons.

 

[Marc Faletti]

he reminds me more of a young mcnabb than vick

Amen. Glad someone said it. He isn't Michael Vick -- he has always shown a dedication to improving in the passing game.. McNabb and even Favre seem like more accurate comparisons than Vick in terms of his passing upside. He has no well-known WRs. Not much of a running game, either. He will still take a few bad chances per game. And his defense isn't going to help him out with field position too often.And yes, he's on Madden.There are a number of situational reasons why VY won't have an excellent season, and anyone who jumps off the bandwagon has plenty of ammo to back them up. But I still have yet to find someone who saw 8 or more of his games with their own eyes last year who wasn't truly bowled over by his talent and moxie. Will he realize all of his ability this year? Doubt it, and the situation is a big reason why. But he's also not the kind of guy who wilts under pressure or waits for the players around him to make plays. After all, who the heck was Bobby Wade before last year?2900 passing yards, 19 TDs, 14 INTs650 rushing yards, 6 TDs And I look at that as his floor. [Then again, I'm an evangelist, aren't I?]

 

[guderian]

Sorry about the lack of projections, but I won't draft this guy simply because of the curse. There are plenty of other QBs out there without impending doom hanging over them going in 2007.

I would not take Young unless he fell to me late.I can see some huge games followed by 80 tards passing and zero TDs.

The knock on rushing QBs is that they are more likely to be injured, but IMO they are more consistent scorers. If you exclude his first game (only 4 attempts) he scored in 13 of 14 weeks. That consistency is rare for vet QBs, let alone rookies. In fact, Tom Brady didn't score in 3 of 16 games last year. Drew Brees didn't score in 2 of 15 games...Carson Palmer didn't score in 2 of 16 games, etc.

 

[Jeff19658]

I wonder if Wood is going to have two sets of projections...Madden curse impacted numbers and Madden curse free numbers.

PYDS-3400 TDS-22 INT-16I think the Madden curse is not in play. LT is the one to be scared of. Anyone see Final Destination? As I herd LT was asked first and turned it down.

 

[Buckna]

2600 passing yards, 15 TD's, 16 INT's

600 rushing yards, 7 TD's

He essentially played in 14 games last year so I can't see this huge jump in his numbers some of you are projecting. I still think he has a long way to go as a passer and the supporting cast around him got noticably weaker this year (big questions at RB & WR and by far the most important player on the field outside of Vince is suspended for the season.) Value will come from his legs and he'll have some big plays here and there. My above projection would have put him at QB8 last year.

 

[Hawk]

Sorry about the lack of projections, but I won't draft this guy simply because of the curse. There are plenty of other QBs out there without impending doom hanging over them going in 2007.

I would not take Young unless he fell to me late.I can see some huge games followed by 80 tards passing and zero TDs.

The knock on rushing QBs is that they are more likely to be injured, but IMO they are more consistent scorers. If you exclude his first game (only 4 attempts) he scored in 13 of 14 weeks. That consistency is rare for vet QBs, let alone rookies. In fact, Tom Brady didn't score in 3 of 16 games last year. Drew Brees didn't score in 2 of 15 games...Carson Palmer didn't score in 2 of 16 games, etc.

People seem to forget how consistent Vince was as a FF scorer last year, especially for a rookie QB. If you tossout his very first start against Dallas where he obviously struggled, for his other 12 starts, he only failed to reach 10+ fantasy points twice, both times against Jacksonville. And if you look at the last 8 games (normally I hate to do this, but it makes more sense in the case of a rookie), he averaged about 17 points per game over that 8 game stretch, and that includes a 3 point stinker against Jax. If he averages 17 ppg next season, he'll be a top 5 FF QB. So maybe you reserve him against Jax who seems to have his number, but I think you can feel good playing him against anyone else and expect at least 10-15 points with potential for 25-30 any given week. Because of his rushing stats, his floor from week to week is actually higher IMO than most passing QB's. Even in Vince's bad games, he is going to compensate by running more which adds up points quickly in a standard FF scoring system and makes it less likely IMO that he'll have any real stinker weeks (again, buyer beware against Jax until he proves otherwise).

 

[Brewzers]

he reminds me more of a young mcnabb than vick

Amen. Glad someone said it. He isn't Michael Vick -- he has always shown a dedication to improving in the passing game.. McNabb and even Favre seem like more accurate comparisons than Vick in terms of his passing upside. He has no well-known WRs. Not much of a running game, either. He will still take a few bad chances per game. And his defense isn't going to help him out with field position too often.And yes, he's on Madden.There are a number of situational reasons why VY won't have an excellent season, and anyone who jumps off the bandwagon has plenty of ammo to back them up. But I still have yet to find someone who saw 8 or more of his games with their own eyes last year who wasn't truly bowled over by his talent and moxie. Will he realize all of his ability this year? Doubt it, and the situation is a big reason why. But he's also not the kind of guy who wilts under pressure or waits for the players around him to make plays. After all, who the heck was Bobby Wade before last year?2900 passing yards, 19 TDs, 14 INTs650 rushing yards, 6 TDs And I look at that as his floor. [Then again, I'm an evangelist, aren't I?]

I would look for improvement in his completion % to 55 - 60% range. He will run when the defense gives him lanes, on a rollout option or scrambling out of trouble. I would expect his running stats to remain the same or even drop as he becomes a more proficient NFL passer and the Titans improve the receiving corps.

 

[Assani Fisher]

6 games

1200 yards passing, 5 TDs, 4 INTs

200 yards rushing, 2 TDs

 

[softball]

It stuns me how people project improvements as if they are just suppossed to happen. Not being critical of any one poster, it's just that sometimes players DON'T progress so quickly. The predictions of improved accuracy are perilous to say the very least.

I may be in the low low minority here, but there isn't anyone for Vince to throw to. Making his yardage predictions of near 3K seem very aggressive. If he throws for 3k at least 1 guy gets 1K right? I would assume thats Brandon Jones. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

2200 yards passing

675 yards rushing

17Passing TDs

7 Rushing TDs

 

[Hawk]

It stuns me how people project improvements as if they are just suppossed to happen. Not being critical of any one poster, it's just that sometimes players DON'T progress so quickly. The predictions of improved accuracy are perilous to say the very least.I may be in the low low minority here, but there isn't anyone for Vince to throw to. Making his yardage predictions of near 3K seem very aggressive. If he throws for 3k at least 1 guy gets 1K right? I would assume thats Brandon Jones. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it.2200 yards passing675 yards rushing17Passing TDs7 Rushing TDs

While I agree that it's aggressive to project Vince at or over 3,000 yards, I still have a question for those that seem so concerned about his lack of WR's or "anyone for Vince to throw to." Did you guys really...I mean REALLY...think Drew Bennett and B.Wade were that good? Vince has everybody back he had last year except those two guys. While I realize they were the Titans' leading receivers last season, those guys are very mediocre WR's by NFL standards. I thought B.Jones should have surpassed them last year. Vince threw for about 2,200 last season with those crappy guys as his leading receivers. I don't think there is any talent drop off (and may be a talent increase) with the guys that will be playing WR for the Titans this year. Agreed that there is no true stud, but he didn't have that last year either. I just can't see the loss of Bennett and Wade as being likely to have that big an impact on his passing numbers. Maybe it holds him back from haviing huge increases in his passing numbers, but I doubt it leads to a great drop off either.Vince still has Scaife and Troupe. He still has A.Hall who caught a few at FB. He still has similar talent level at WR. And what he has now that he did not have last year is a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield and that has good speed to do something with it. T.Henry and L.White had about 140 yards receiving total between them. C.Henry could easily beat that on his own, in fact I'd be surprised if he didn't.Given all that, I think its hard to project Vince at less than 2,500 yards passing (barring injury) given that he had 2,200 yards passing last year with 3 fewer starts than he'll have this year.

 

[jurb26]

I don't buy into the argument that the Tenn running game is going to be nearly as bad as all the nay sayers are predicting here. Heck, you would have thought that Tenn just lost Barry or Payton in the backfield they way some people are talking. Henry is a decent RB, but not a difference maker. I really don't see White and Henry part 2 as all that much of a drop off. I suppose I could be wrong. The weapons on the outside are a bit worrisome however. I'm not sure that is a bad thing fantasy wise right now though. If Young is not able to find open people to throw to, guess what. He will run. Running will account for better fantasy points anyway.

Passing: 430 att., 236 comp., 2790 yds, 13 TDs

Rushing: 95 att., 610 yds, 8 TDs

 

[2stix]

:( the cursed one

Twist knee in week3. out for 8 weeks never fully recovers.

Madden turns to covers with various generic footbull stuff:

trophies hosted,playbook X &O,blimps over stadium,etc never once implying a team or player.

15 tds through air, 8 on ground

2000yds

400 ru yds

 

[Hawk]

the cursed oneTwist knee in week3. out for 8 weeks never fully recovers.Madden turns to covers with various generic footbull stuff:trophies hosted,playbook X &O,blimps over stadium,etc never once implying a team or player.15 tds through air, 8 on ground 2000yds400 ru yds

Wow, if he were to put up those numbers only playing 8 games, he'd be the top QB in the league....by a mile! Not likely.

 

[enfuego]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :3400 passing22 TDs19 Ints777 rushing7 TDs

That would have made him the #1 QB in 4 out of the past 5 seasons.

Factoring in rushing yards, I believe you would be correct...

 

[enfuego]

It stuns me how people project improvements as if they are just suppossed to happen. Not being critical of any one poster, it's just that sometimes players DON'T progress so quickly. The predictions of improved accuracy are perilous to say the very least.I may be in the low low minority here, but there isn't anyone for Vince to throw to. Making his yardage predictions of near 3K seem very aggressive. If he throws for 3k at least 1 guy gets 1K right? I would assume thats Brandon Jones. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it.2200 yards passing675 yards rushing17Passing TDs7 Rushing TDs

While I agree that it's aggressive to project Vince at or over 3,000 yards, I still have a question for those that seem so concerned about his lack of WR's or "anyone for Vince to throw to." Did you guys really...I mean REALLY...think Drew Bennett and B.Wade were that good? Vince has everybody back he had last year except those two guys. While I realize they were the Titans' leading receivers last season, those guys are very mediocre WR's by NFL standards. I thought B.Jones should have surpassed them last year. Vince threw for about 2,200 last season with those crappy guys as his leading receivers. I don't think there is any talent drop off (and may be a talent increase) with the guys that will be playing WR for the Titans this year. Agreed that there is no true stud, but he didn't have that last year either. I just can't see the loss of Bennett and Wade as being likely to have that big an impact on his passing numbers. Maybe it holds him back from haviing huge increases in his passing numbers, but I doubt it leads to a great drop off either.Vince still has Scaife and Troupe. He still has A.Hall who caught a few at FB. He still has similar talent level at WR. And what he has now that he did not have last year is a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield and that has good speed to do something with it. T.Henry and L.White had about 140 yards receiving total between them. C.Henry could easily beat that on his own, in fact I'd be surprised if he didn't.Given all that, I think its hard to project Vince at less than 2,500 yards passing (barring injury) given that he had 2,200 yards passing last year with 3 fewer starts than he'll have this year.

 

[Brewzers]

I don't buy into the argument that the Tenn running game is going to be nearly as bad as all the nay sayers are predicting here. Heck, you would have thought that Tenn just lost Barry or Payton in the backfield they way some people are talking. Henry is a decent RB, but not a difference maker. I really don't see White and Henry part 2 as all that much of a drop off. I suppose I could be wrong. The weapons on the outside are a bit worrisome however. I'm not sure that is a bad thing fantasy wise right now though. If Young is not able to find open people to throw to, guess what. He will run. Running will account for better fantasy points anyway. Passing: 430 att., 236 comp., 2790 yds, 13 TDsRushing: 95 att., 610 yds, 8 TDs

If Vince only passes for 13 TDs in 16 games, I will buy you dinner. On the flip side, if he passes for more than 13 TDs, you owe me? Deal?

 

[BassNBrew]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :3400 passing22 TDs19 Ints777 rushing7 TDs

That would have made him the #1 QB in 4 out of the past 5 seasons.

Factoring in rushing yards, I believe you would be correct...

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[enfuego]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :

3400 passing

22 TDs

19 Ints

777 rushing

7 TDs

That would have made him the #1 QB in 4 out of the past 5 seasons.

Factoring in rushing yards, I believe you would be correct...

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OK. Let's look at this logically:

Last year, VY put up:

2200 yds passing
12 TD's
13 INT's
552 yds rushing
7 rushing TD's
Did not start nor play in every game.To put up 3400 yards in 2007, all he has to do is average 212.50 ypg...Surely a step forward, but not an outlandish request from the NFL Rookie MVP.

 

[BassNBrew]

Young will take a nice step forward this year as he gels with his young group of WR's :

3400 passing

22 TDs

19 Ints

777 rushing

7 TDs

That would have made him the #1 QB in 4 out of the past 5 seasons.

Factoring in rushing yards, I believe you would be correct...

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OK. Let's look at this logically:

Last year, VY put up:

2200 yds passing
12 TD's
13 INT's
552 yds rushing
7 rushing TD's
Did not start nor play in every game.To put up 3400 yards in 2007, all he has to do is average 212.50 ypg...Surely a step forward, but not an outlandish request from the NFL Rookie MVP.

Last year only 8 QBs posted > 21 TDs. Tenn has a poor WR crew and an unproven RB, not to mention that Young isn't in the top 8 passing QBs.Wow, only 8 QBs posted > 3400 last year.

Better yet, only 5 accomplished both. Brees, Manning, Bulger, Palmer, and Brady. Those teams were 2, 5, 7, 8, and 10 in scoring. Tenn finished 16th which included 8 of 36 TDs from D or ST. That was only topped by Chicago with Hester...Pacman won't be playing.

Lastly, none of those referenced above were on the Madden cover.

 

[LHUCKS]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

2600 yds passing
14 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
6 rushing TD'sI can't stand this type of QB play...it might get you into the playoffs if you have a good defense, but you're going to get spanked by the elite teams with real QBs.

 

[pizzatyme]

I think the Titans will see a lot of man coverage on the WRs due to lack of perceived threat. Therefore allowing defenses to drop a safety into the box to shadow VY.

The loss of Henry WILL be a big factor IMO. He had a great season last year. Do you think an unproven White or C. Henry will repeat?

Finally, no Pacman to give good field position to the offense this season.

With that said...

2650 passing yards 15 TDs 19 INTs

575 rushing yards 5 TDs

 

[Hawk]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

2600 yds passing
14 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
6 rushing TD'sI can't stand this type of QB play...it might get you into the playoffs if you have a good defense, but you're going to get spanked by the elite teams with real QBs.

Those are reasonable numbers. If he had hit those last year, he'd have been #7 in FF QB scoring. I also think, barring injury, that those are closer to a floor than a ceiling for Vince this season. Looking like people in general are projecting numbers that would make him a top 10 level FF QB next season. As for style of play, to me that has less to do with playoff succcess than the moxy and poise of the QB in big game situations. Vince historically has played very well in big games. I think Vince will be a good playoff QB over the course of his career.

 

[-OZ-]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

2600 yds passing
14 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
6 rushing TD'sI can't stand this type of QB play...it might get you into the playoffs if you have a good defense, but you're going to get spanked by the elite teams with real QBs.

I agree with your stats, although I'd bump it slightly up:
2600 yds passing
16 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
8 rushing TD'sI disagree with your last comment, but time will tell. If nothing else, it makes for an entertaining game.

 

[Da Guru]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

2600 yds passing
14 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
6 rushing TD'sI can't stand this type of QB play...it might get you into the playoffs if you have a good defense, but you're going to get spanked by the elite teams with real QBs.

Vinny Young will win you a couple of FF games by himself but will be very erratic because you can`t count on the passing yards and TDs.

 

[guderian]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

2600 yds passing
14 TD's
13 INT's
600 yds rushing
6 rushing TD'sI can't stand this type of QB play...it might get you into the playoffs if you have a good defense, but you're going to get spanked by the elite teams with real QBs.

Young will win you a couple of FF games by himself but will be very erratic because you can`t count on the passing yards and TDs.

Again with the erratic assertion. Young was one of the more consistent QBs last year and scored in all but one of his games. Rushing QBs are typically more consistent scorers than pure passing QBs.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

Word is they're in the best shape of their lives and are gonna have a heck of a preseason.I've got them on my sleeper list.

 

[Da Guru]

It's difficult to pass for 3000 when you're throwing to Maurile Tremblay and Colin Dowling.

Word is they're in the best shape of their lives and are gonna have a heck of a preseason.I've got them on my sleeper list.

MT is more of a possesion type, Colin is a burner with bad hands.

 

[twistd]

I have seen Vince Young projected regularly in the top 10. I think Young has tremendous long term potential, but I think he will struggle this year. I would not be comfortable going into the season with him as my fantasy starter. I think NFL defensive coordinators are very good at defensing players once they have film on them. Now that they have half a year of tape they will be much more prepared for his game. Young is going to be awfully alone this season. They have no proven WRs. Chris Brown is the guy at RB. That would be the same Chris Brown who can't stay on the field. That spells trouble as far as I can see. I think Leinart, Cutler, and Young all will have their share of problems. But both Cutler and Leinart are being projected as back ups. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with Young as a back up on my team, rather than a starter.

 

[Phlash]

I agree, however I do think he'll put up top 10 numbers based on his rushing alone. Even if he stinks with his passing (which last year, was pretty darn good for a rook with no weapons to speak of), he'll still gain enough yards on the ground to crack the top 10 imo. He should be drafted later, as there is definite risk there that is not worth having in your QB1, but his upside is tremendous if he does what he's already shown he can do. I get the feeling he's the kind of QB who makes the players around him better ala Tom Brady, except with Daunte Culpepper style mobility. Someone may pull the trigger earlier than you like, and it would be no loss on your part, but if you can get him late you absolutely 100% should not hesitate about it.

 

[waylander]

I know I am in the minority, but I don't see him struggling near as much as most do. I think his stats will be improved all the way around.

 

[BassNBrew]

1400-9-10 passing300-3 rushingSeason ending injury during week 8 allows Vince plenty of time to enjoy his Madden endorsement money.

25 QB Young,Vince TEN 5 114 73 703 3 6 32 129 1 1 60.1Wow...worse than I thought.