Players I've Adjusted Up (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

Clausen likes Olsen, Cam likes Olsen, now Bass likes Olsen.

 

[Short Corner]

So many haters around here lately. Its a good thread - where people should be able to talk about what there "eyes" are seeing in the Pre-Season.Good judges of talent know their eyes dont lie.

Bad judges of talent know this too.

 

[LHUCKS]

Clausen likes Olsen, Cam likes Olsen, now Bass likes Olsen.

yeah, on my radar, wasn't before

 

[Largent]

Roddy White down to 5-7 WR range and Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Watching Dwayne Harris play.......WOW!!!! If he keeps that up he'll not just past the #3 spot but take over the #2 spot.

Uh, from who?

Dallas, he's from ECU:

I think he meant, "from who is he taking the #2 spot", Austin or Bryant.

Yup, this. I know who Harris is, BigTex.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Let's bump up Tim Hightower, especially in ppr leagues. That clouded backfield all of a sudden looks his for the taking. Now, with two other pretty good backs, one with a track record of success (and injury), and a rookie who may have the most talent out of the bunch, his upside may be capped. However, Timmy does have 800 rush yard, 40+ catch potential. He seems like the type of back that Shannahan would love to make his next 1000 yard "talent" (one-cut, good in pass protection, can also catch the ball and is above average to good at the goal line). I'm certainly buying, because it wont cost you too much for a potential top 20 rb.

 

[ffldrew]

Lets remember that Dwayne Harris lit up the 3rd string Bronco defense - which is basically a slight step above a mid Division I college D. Broncos are looking for anyone with a pulse for 3rd string D. I'd slow down on that one. But you have to love a guy that pimps himself after a game -"Big-time players make big-time catches in big-time situations," Harris said. "That's what happened."

 

[cr8f]

After that TD catch last night where do you have Greg Jennings?

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

This is more based on what I HAVEN'T seen, but due to Hardesty's inability to stay healthy and get on the field I'm bumping Hillis up my rankings.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Roddy White down to 5-7 WR range and Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

I love hearing this. If I could pick up Roddy at 7WR, I would be doing so with some serious wood.

 

[Warhogs]

Lets remember that Dwayne Harris lit up the 3rd string Bronco defense - which is basically a slight step above a mid Division I college D. Broncos are looking for anyone with a pulse for 3rd string D. I'd slow down on that one. But you have to love a guy that pimps himself after a game -"Big-time players make big-time catches in big-time situations," Harris said. "That's what happened."

I don't think people are saying go get this guy at whatever cost but I play in several zealots leagues and Harris is one of very few players who is showing something that is available at auction right now. Probably a decent player to spend a few zbucks on and stash away.

 

[Largent]

Roddy White down to 5-7 WR range and Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

I love hearing this. If I could pick up Roddy at 7WR, I would be doing so with some serious wood.

not saying Roddy won't be drafted higher than WR7 - he's just getting to high for me to take him after AJ and Calvin....rather have Fitz and Nicks before Roddy this year.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Roddy White down to 5-7 WR range and Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

I love hearing this. If I could pick up Roddy at 7WR, I would be doing so with some serious wood.

not saying Roddy won't be drafted higher than WR7 - he's just getting to high for me to take him after AJ and Calvin....rather have Fitz and Nicks before Roddy this year.

I can't really argue with you there although the only slam dunk for me would be AJ over Roddy.

 

[Chaka]

Outside of dynasty leagues I am not sure why people would be excited about Tony Romo's fifth read (Witten, Austin, Bryant & Felix).

 

[BigTex]

Watching Dwayne Harris play.......WOW!!!! If he keeps that up he'll not just past the #3 spot but take over the #2 spot.

Uh, from who?

Dallas, he's from ECU:

I think he meant, "from who is he taking the #2 spot", Austin or Bryant.

Yup, this. I know who Harris is, BigTex.

LOL, sorry...........

 

[drater]

Historically, I've only really paid attention to performance in week 3 of the preseason, as that's the week that NFL coaches most closely replicate a regular season game. This year, that methodology obviously needs to be different. That being said, overreacting to performance when more than 1/3 of the players involved won't make regular season rosters isn't in anybodies best interest. Take it for what it is, a good chance to monitor off the radar guys who produce more than once as well as move up the depth chart and get snaps with the starters.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

nice thread....and tough to understand why all the hate from guys who dismiss preseason games, especially week 1, yet still come into the thread and post nothing that helps at all....if you know it's not your cup of tea, just stay out....I like to see some guys pass the eye ball test...

Julio: real deal

Harris: let's temper for a second, the 70 yarder was blown coverage, I can see why some are excited but a lot of mouths to feed and Ogletree may give him a run when all is said and done...

KC: it is going to be a long year, just got a bad feeling people are going to be disappointed in the production they get from a first rounder (Charles) or a possible second rounder (Bowe)....schedule is brutal...and that team just isn't that good....Cassel worries me...

NE: how many offers will they be getting for Mallett...?....some teams kicking themselves right now (hello MIA) for letting NE get this guy....

CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

 

[Joe Bryant]

nice thread....and tough to understand why all the hate from guys who dismiss preseason games, especially week 1, yet still come into the thread and post nothing that helps at all....if you know it's not your cup of tea, just stay out....I like to see some guys pass the eye ball test...Julio: real dealHarris: let's temper for a second, the 70 yarder was blown coverage, I can see why some are excited but a lot of mouths to feed and Ogletree may give him a run when all is said and done...KC: it is going to be a long year, just got a bad feeling people are going to be disappointed in the production they get from a first rounder (Charles) or a possible second rounder (Bowe)....schedule is brutal...and that team just isn't that good....Cassel worries me...NE: how many offers will they be getting for Mallett...?....some teams kicking themselves right now (hello MIA) for letting NE get this guy....CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

I'd agree with this. If preseason doesn't mean anything to you, find another thread. But lots of people pay very close attention to preseason. I'm one. Obviously, you have to view in the context of what it is, but preseason is important for lots of players.J

 

[FavreCo]

Harris dude: http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=7776105

Now that's some analysis.

 

[wadegarrett]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

 

[Grahamburn]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

 

[sho nuff]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Julio Jones and the entire Falcons offense

I'm bumping down Roddy White out of the top 5 but still in the top 10. FBG projections have him on average at 94 receptions and Julio Jones at 58 (155 total). Jones definitely appears NFL ready and an obvious upgrade to what White had last year on the other side.

Assuming the same total receptions (and taking into account Smith surely force-fed the ball to the rookie last night), a split of 80-85 for White and 70-75 for Jones seems more likely if Jones continues to impress.

I don't see how Julio having good numbers lowers Roddy's numbers. If anything it just means that the DF's will not be able to double cover White. Think about it. You have to have at least 7 guys in the box to stop Turner. Gonzo is going to draw coverage over the middle too. You have to have a CB on Julio and will also need to keep deep safety help (probably a cover two DF) to prevent Julio from just going over the top, and how many defenders does that leave on White???

So yes, Turner, Gonzo,and Julio will all get theirs, however, White should face softer coverage than last year underneath. I think that his TD's might go down to like 6-8, but his receptions might actually go up as well as his yards. I think that the real winner in this case might be Matt Ryan.... And J Rogers, if something were to happen to Turner.

I think you're oversimplifying it a bit. Those LB's aren't going to be playing the run once they diagnose the play as pass. And if it's 3rd and long, the D is going to be in nickel or dime pre-snap regardless of who the RB is.

D's still play down-and-distance probabilities even if the offense has studs or a lack thereof. The D will always be able to double someone and they often bias against the deep routes even if it's not the opposing teams best WR running that route.

 

[trader jake]

Roddy White down to 5-7 WR range and Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

I love hearing this. If I could pick up Roddy at 7WR, I would be doing so with some serious wood.

In this case it sounds like the player has adjusted you up. I've argued taking Julio Jones over A.J. Green since the draft but his stock har risen to the point where he's no longer a value in redraft leagues. In dynasty he has been consistently going in the top 4 picks already.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

 

[hitchcock]

In this case it sounds like the player has adjusted you up.

I've argued taking Julio Jones over A.J. Green since the draft but his stock har risen to the point where he's no longer a value in redraft leagues. In dynasty he has been consistently going in the top 4 picks already.

Top four overall? Wow.

 

[trader jake]

Top four overall? Wow.

Lol...dynasty rookie drafts.

 

[zamboni]

CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

I'm always careful about making projections based on a perceived weak offensive line, especially in preseason. Sometimes OLs turn out to be as bad as advertised, but sometimes lines just manage to gel when they are not expected to. For us fans, it's hard to truly evaluate unless you get to see them in the trenches on a regular basis. And of course, sometimes talent can manage to produce even without a great OL.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

 

[Shutout]

Kregg Lumpkin. I think there is a real role for him this year. I think Blount's style could lend him to wear down some as the year progresses and he plays an entire season. All the while, Lumpkin seems to be working his way into a nice role and getting better at it. I think Lumpkin has always been one that his teams have said they liked what they saw, but he's always had some injuries (some minor but he always seems to be on a really crowded team).

Don't know what you would categorize it but he passed my eyeball test and I've been fortunate enough to pick my share of rough diamonds over the years so I'm picking up Lumpkin at no cost (waiver wire) across my leagues.

You can't get much better than that if you can claim a FA player and then he produces for you just when you need it. he won't be a find like Arian Foster last year but he could be a samkon Gado or Pierre Thomas or Earnest Graham type.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

they are not in the same class as Fitz. at least when it comes to catching. not many are

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

So Kolb was 4/7 for 68 yards and Fitzt had 2 for 60 yards . . . 1 of which was a great catch by Fitz. So he had 2 other completions for 8 yards . . . what were those like? Just seems like misleading stats when you consider Fitz.

 

[loose circuits]

The other deep rookie pick that I liked the potential but question the immediate opportunity is Jeremy Kerley. He's been impressive in camp but if Mason and Plaxico stay on the field, he'll have a hard time finding his way to the field (on offense).

how old are those guys though? Kerley could have an impact sooner than later

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

This argument looks plausible but be careful here, my timing may be a year off but I believe there was a dude named Barry lined up behind Mitchell in his first full season. Herman Moore and Larry Fitz are probably in the same talent level so at least Fitz will help Kolb look better like Moore did for Mitchell.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Harris: let's temper for a second, the 70 yarder was blown coverage, I can see why some are excited but a lot of mouths to feed and Ogletree may give him a run when all is said and done...CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

I like what Harris did, and I love his highlight reel, but what really turned me off is that the studs known as Dez and Austin are under contract for several more years. Harris wouldn't get his shot until he leaves via FA and that may not be as good of a situation as a loaded Dallas offense.Another team to avoid at all costs, San Fransisco. Same deal. 1st O line got walked all over. Give Harbaugh another year or two, develop a QB and find another couple lineman and you may have something, but they are a long ways off.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

This argument looks plausible but be careful here, my timing may be a year off but I believe there was a dude named Barry lined up behind Mitchell in his first full season. Herman Moore and Larry Fitz are probably in the same talent level so at least Fitz will help Kolb look better like Moore did for Mitchell.

Good point on Barry, as for Herman Moore - I grew up in Detroit watching that Lions team and as an adult it's never occured to me once that Moore was in the same class as Fitzgerald. Either way though, I don't think Kolb will actually hit those numbers necessarily, I just wanted to point out that even if the Scott Mitchell comparison turns out to be true over the longhaul, that doesn't mean he won't have value in a redraft.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

A lot of talk about Kolb, I'll just toss my 2 cents in that he looked really good. Especially his running/scrambling ability, and fearlessness to string the ball into tight windows. I think Kolb is a solid QB#1 this year. Certainly a value for where his ADP is at.

 

[hook014]

nice thread....and tough to understand why all the hate from guys who dismiss preseason games, especially week 1, yet still come into the thread and post nothing that helps at all....if you know it's not your cup of tea, just stay out....I like to see some guys pass the eye ball test...Julio: real dealHarris: let's temper for a second, the 70 yarder was blown coverage, I can see why some are excited but a lot of mouths to feed and Ogletree may give him a run when all is said and done...KC: it is going to be a long year, just got a bad feeling people are going to be disappointed in the production they get from a first rounder (Charles) or a possible second rounder (Bowe)....schedule is brutal...and that team just isn't that good....Cassel worries me...NE: how many offers will they be getting for Mallett...?....some teams kicking themselves right now (hello MIA) for letting NE get this guy....CHI: adding them to the list of teams that I may just avoid all together unless it is crazy value....that Oline is terrible and it all starts there on offense....I'd be worried...

Awesome post.Good observation about Miami...... I laughed

 

[Joe Bryant]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

Really? For what they gave up and paid? He started 9 games in '94 and had a 62.0 passer rating in those games. '95 was his peak and it was downhill from there. I'm not sure many Cardinal fans would take a Scott Mitchell career out of Kolb.J

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

Really? For what they gave up and paid? He started 9 games in '94 and had a 62.0 passer rating in those games. '95 was his peak and it was downhill from there. I'm not sure many Cardinal fans would take a Scott Mitchell career out of Kolb.J

I think he was referring to having those numbers this year / not about his career

 

[Joe Bryant]

Fitzgertald back up to top 3 from 5-7 range. All the lockout workouts with Kolb, sounds like they're attached to the hip in camp and in the locker (reminicent of Moss/Brady first year).

Was thinking this as well until I read this from Peter King this morning...

• ARIZONA: Larry Fitzgerald Warning Dept.: Kevin Kolb, playing for Philadelphia last year, completed 30.8 percent of his throws that traveled at least 20 yards downfield ... compared to 40.4 percent for the run-out-of-town Derek Anderson.

Now...

Kolb didn't have Fitzgerald last season. If Larry keeps making grabs like he did the other night, and he will, Kolb won't have any problem completing plenty of deep balls to Fitz.

Not as if Maclin and Jackson are scrubs though.

Right. The numbers for Kolb apply. It's a small sample so you have to be careful but you can't blame them on his receivers.I can't pin it down exactly but I have an uneasy feeling about Kolb. I keep getting a vague and blurry picture of Scott Mitchell. But that's totally a gut feel and I can't quantify it. So take it for what it's worth.J

Scott Mitchell threw for 4,000+ YDS and 30+ TDs in his first full season in Detroit. If Kolb stays healthy and matches that, I'll take it.

Really? For what they gave up and paid? He started 9 games in '94 and had a 62.0 passer rating in those games. '95 was his peak and it was downhill from there. I'm not sure many Cardinal fans would take a Scott Mitchell career out of Kolb.J

I think he was referring to having those numbers this year / not about his career

Yeah, I guess I can see that. Although I hope Kolb lasts more than 9 games like Mitchell did. 1995 was nice and I'm sure people would take that. But I'm looking at it more from a career thing.J

 

[5Rings]

I don't know that I've ever seen someone try so hard at something yet still be so terrible at it

 

[ukshane]

I wouldn't bank on rookie wide receivers with zero OTAs under and an abbreviated training camp.I'm just saying.

See Michael Crabtree and Dez Bryant for recent examples.

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't bank on rookie wide receivers with zero OTAs under and an abbreviated training camp.I'm just saying.

See Michael Crabtree and Dez Bryant for recent examples.

Crabtree 48 catches, 625 yards, 2 TDBryant - 45 catches, 561 yards, 6 TD (pro rated for 16 games to 60 catches, 748 yards, 8 TD).Yippee?

 

[LHUCKS]

Bumped up Marion barber and bumped down forte

 

[jon_mx]

Scot Mitchell thrived one year in Detroit's run n shoot. But when they went more conventional, put on a dress.

 

[jon_mx]

Bumped up Marion barber and bumped down forte

Definitely a guy who has some upside. I could see Forte just being the third down guy.

 

[Chaka]

Bumped up Marion barber and bumped down forte

Definitely a guy who has some upside. I could see Forte just being the third down guy.

In favor of Barber on first and second down? Seriously?

 

[rizzler]

My hope is that the Julio Hype will drop White's ADP some.

This. I'm drafting #3. I may be able to snag him in the 3rd if Julio keeps it up.

Ya, If Corky Thatcher is drafting for the rest of the teams in your league.

 

[LHUCKS]

Bumped up Marion barber and bumped down forte

Just projections, not depth chartDefinitely a guy who has some upside. I could see Forte just being the third down guy.

In favor of Barber on first and second down? Seriously?