Mr. Pickles
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Players you expect big things from (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Based on his crap year this past season I can't imagine him being too expensive. Robinson Cano
RnR
Footballguy
2nd rounder in every league I've seen so far.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
PIK95
Footballguy
Red Sox corners....
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Yeah thats what everyone keeps saying. But cant he continue having years like last year for the foreseeable future?
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm not saying he can't but his .384 BABIP probably isn't repeatable. Guys with BB/K ratios like his seem prone to streaks. He's still a very good player but I think he's risky at 1.03
dparker713
Footballguy
Considering he was number 1 in standard roto last year, how much more needs to be there?
Eephus
Footballguy
I'll take the under on him in 2011
PIK95
Footballguy
So who would you rather take 1.3? Nobody jumps out at me.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
None. I think this is his absolute peak. He had a torrid second half: .363/.412/.679 I drafted him in a head to head league last year and just crushed my opponents from July onward. He was a one man wrecking crew. Having Bautista didn't hurt, either.Too few walks for my taste. He'd have to pull off some hitting magic to even get close to those numbers. I also wonder if he'll run as much. It seems as though, once you show big power potential, teams want to ease you off the steals.The man loves his Coors. He hit .380 at home with 26 HR.I wouldn't draft him in round 1, and I'm pretty sure that's where he's going. Round 2 seems fair. I'd take him there and expect something reasonable like .295 AVG, 27 HR, 105 RBI, 110 R, 15 SB.
Cool in the pocket
Footballguy
I think you'd be paying for last year at 1.03.
Pujols/Miggy/Hanley or Pujols/Hanley/Miggy maybe?So who would you rather take 1.3? Nobody jumps out at me.
Cool in the pocket
Footballguy
I get that and agree, but SS is ridiculously thin and he and Tulo are miles ahead of the rest imho. Tulo comes with risk too as he is pretty injury prone and gets off to Teixeira type starts. He only had 12 homers going into September before he went nuts and won leagues on his own.
shadyridr
Footballguy
I know but in my pts league, Hanley was like the 35th ranked player last yr. Even if we expect him to bounce back and jump up into the top 15 range do I really want to take a top 15 player with a top 3 pick just because of position scarcity? I do think he is a pretty safe pick however.
RnR
Footballguy
Points and roto really deserve separate discussions. Hanley is a no-brainer top 5 pick in roto.
RnR
Footballguy
My top five in points would probably look something like:1- Pujols2- Cabrera3- Votto4- Tulo5- LongoriaRoto:1- Pujols2- Cabrera3- Hanley4- Tulo5- VottoThe name of the points game you're playing is OPS. It's a one-stop number to quantify scoring effectiveness in all categories except SB.shadyridr said:
dparker713
Footballguy
Not sure he'd be my first SS in roto, which makes it kinda hard to make him a no-brainer top 5 for me.RnR said:
RnR
Footballguy
Guess we have different definitions of value in a top-round choice. When you're drafting for an anchor of your team in a high-stakes league, reliability is terribly important. Probably more important than upside. Find me another player with his 5-category reliability, and then remember Hanley qualifies at the weakest non-catcher position. I'm not sure there's someone out there that matches that description.Sure, 2010 was a disappointment, 50 SB days are probably in the past, and Tulo offers more upside, but none of these things keep Hanley out of the top 5. You can make a strong argument he rates as high as #2.
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RnR
Footballguy
HanRam's value is tied into above-average production in all 5 roto categories. In points, we're not concerned when, where, why, or how we get points.... just that we get the most of them. That allows you to lean much more on guys that would be only 3 or 4 category roto producers because they are significantly stronger in the power categories. Does that make sense?
RnR
Footballguy
No worries, I've played in a few points leagues for quite some time and find it refreshingly different. Mine is cumulative (not head-to-head), weekly changes, and its salary cap (not draft). So it's much more about maximizing points based on player cost, games played per week, etc. Braun is actually a guy that I have "tied" with Longoria as my #5, probably should've posted that. As far as CarGo goes, I'm of the believe that his ceiling was last season. While I still think he's a first rounder, I want to let someone else take the chance on a repeat and draft him. I could be wrong, just throwing that out there. My strategy is not shared by everyone, but in a draft league I'm more interested in "not losing the league" than I am "winning the league" with my first round pick. Leagues are generally won in the middle/late rounds, and they're lost in the early rounds with unnecessary risk. It really depends on your league structure and line-up requirements. I saw your scoring system in the shortstop thread, but I'm curious as to how many teams you are playing against and how many starters you need at each position. It's possible that Votto could slide down the board a little if the league is very shallow.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Are you adjusting for positional scarcity?Votto and Cabrera will have better years than Gonzalez.
Eephus
Footballguy
Yeah, he's one of those guys who'll will put together a really impressive 600 AB career year at some point. But he turns 29 this season and that's not a good sign for a guy who has had trouble staying the lineup.
