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This has Dynasty and Sleeper discussion written all over it.

Knock yourselves out....

I'll keep a running tab if it isn't too daunting a list.

 
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First one.....

WR Ben Obomanu, 7th round draft pick in 2006 from Auburn.

From Mike Sando at the News Tribune:

Seattle is believed to be high on 2006 seventh-round WR Ben Obomanu.

Obomanu is big and fast but still highly inexperienced. But if he turns in a solid training camp, it could give the Seahawks more of an incentive to trade Darrell Jackson or let Bobby Engram walk in free agency.
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I like Jeff Webb, WR, KC as a longshot to start. He has been told he will compete with Samie Parker for WR2

 
wannabee said:
I like Jeff Webb, WR, KC as a longshot to start. He has been told he will compete with Samie Parker for WR2
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From Rotoworld:Jeff Webb-WR- Chiefs Jan. 18 - 9:37 am et

The Kansas City Star believes second-year wide receiver Jeff Webb is a viable candidate to start in 2007.

It looks like last year's sixth-rounder will be a No. 3 at worst with Dante Hall moving out of the main receiver rotation. Webb versus Samie Parker is already shaping up as a battle to monitor, assuming Kansas City doesn't add talent to the position.

Source: Kansas City Star

Jeff Webb-WR- Chiefs Jan. 13 - 12:04 pm et

Chiefs coach Herm Edwards specifically mentioned 2006 sixth-round receiver Jeff Webb while speaking about the future of the offense Friday.

With Kansas City poised for potentially sweeping changes, Webb could have a shot to push Samie Parker to start. The 6-2 Webb has better size than Parker, 5-11/190, who might fit better as a slot receiver.

Source: Topeka Capital-Journal

 
Jonathan Orr - WR - TEN, Drafted in sixth round.

6'2" 200lbs

He is entering his second year in the league. He did not get any playing time last season, but if Drew Bennett leaves in FA then Orr could have a shot to compete for at least the 3rd slot receiver. He has all the physical tools you look for in a speedy WR.

 
Two more WRs I like are Travis Wilson and Dominick Hixon. Wilson is probably going to be the Browns' WR3:

Travis Wilson-WR- Browns Jan. 11 - 10:56 am et

Travis Wilson reportedly may enter 2007 training camp as the favorite to serve as Cleveland's third receiver.

Wilson, the team's third-round pick in 2006, got off to a slow start after a training camp holdout and only finished with two catches. Joshua Cribbs is another option, but he's been more focused on special teams. We can't see the Browns using a first-day pick on a wideout.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

Also, Wilson started slow while recovering from a knee injury that ended his last season at Oklahoma.

Hixon was on IR all year with a foot injury but was drafted reasonably high and has the physical tool to be a good WR in the future for the Broncos. I could see him competing for WR3 with Rod Smith as the 2007 season wears on.

 
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Jeff Pasquino said:
First one.....

WR Ben Obomanu, 7th round draft pick in 2006 from Auburn.

From Mike Sando at the News Tribune:

Seattle is believed to be high on 2006 seventh-round WR Ben Obomanu.

Obomanu is big and fast but still highly inexperienced. But if he turns in a solid training camp, it could give the Seahawks more of an incentive to trade Darrell Jackson or let Bobby Engram walk in free agency.
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Obomanu was a guy I was watching under my "highly rated in high school, underperformed in college, may surprise in the NFL" criteria. He was a 5 star WR prospect when he went to Auburn. I think that highly ranked kids under perform in college for 3 basic reasons:1) Lack of drive/desire - biggest reason, IMO

2) Used wrong/poor coaching

3) They just aren't that good

Not much you can do about 3, but 1 and 2 are occasionally reversed in the pros.

 
Mike Hass

WR | (6'0", 208, 4.61) | OREGON STATE

cut by N.O signed today by Chicago.

was drafted b4 M.Colston

 
The best "out-of-nowhere" sleepers are the guys who were drafted high (Schaub, Clemens, C. Jackson, Hagan, Calhoun). They aren't likely to be on the waiver wire in many leagues. However, there are a few guys to consider adding.

Matt Cassel - Free agent after the 2008 season. He has looked pretty good so far considering his complete lack of college experience. I have him on the end of my bench in 4-5 leagues. He could eventually start.

Willie Reid - Looks like a return man for the forseeable future, but he was a third round pick and he could eventually emerge as a WR. Kind of a poor man's Steve Smith.

Brad Smith - QB to WR convert has some intriguing physical tools and really had a decent rookie year when you consider that he was playing a new position. If he had played WR in college, he might have gone much earlier than the early 4th round in last year's draft.

Courtney Roby - Early 3rd round pick in 2005 still has plenty of time to get his career on track. Tennessee is weak at WR, so there's a real opportunity for someone to emerge. Lack of production is a concern.

Johnnie Morant - Has beastly size and has been dominant in the preseason at times. 90 receiving yards in three NFL seasons is not very encouraging though.

Delanie Walker - Small school TE got some hype during the offseason. His future looks limited with Vernon Davis around, but he could eventually become a player.

Dominique Byrd - Might not be athletic or motivated enough to start in the NFL, but he's coordinated and was productive in college. Reminds me of Jerome Wiggins.

My top picks from this group are Matt Cassel and Brad Smith. I feel like both guys have a reasonable chance of eventually starting in the NFL. The rest of these guys are longshots.

 
roughrider said:
Mike HassWR | (6'0", 208, 4.61) | OREGON STATEcut by N.O signed today by Chicago. was drafted b4 M.Colston
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LOL!!! He's been on the Bears practice squad all year long. He signed another contract today, as did most practice squad players on Chicago.Here's one for you:Charles Rogers
 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
roughrider said:
Mike HassWR | (6'0", 208, 4.61) | OREGON STATEcut by N.O signed today by Chicago. was drafted b4 M.Colston
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I saw that.Justin Gage was let go, he could step in.Good call. :popcorn:
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Wrong. Justin Gage's contract is up. He's an unrestricted free agent. Man alive are you guys dense. Let me guess... it's the offseason?
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Bitterly cold, or just bitter there Mr. Bears Fan?Let go, not re-signed, whatever. Hass is in Chicago, Gage isn't.
(Rotoworld) Bears signed wide receivers Mike Hass and Brandon Rideau, tight end Richard Angulo, guard Tyler Reed, defensive end Copeland Bryan, and tackle Mark LeVoir and allocated them to NFL Europa.Impact: Hass couldn't make the Saints as a sixth-round pick (a round ahead of Marques Colston) last year and landed on Chicago's practice squad. He has an outside shot to take free agent Justin Gage's roster spot in 2007.
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Adam Jennings, WR/ATL: Jennings, a promising rookie, is getting a lot of attention from the new staff during tape reviews of last season's practices. They like his toughness, his speed and his ability to catch the ball. Jennings could get on the field more this season because of the team's coaching change. Offensive coordinator Hue Jackson and coach Bobby Petrino like using multiple-receiver sets.

 
EBF said:
The best "out-of-nowhere" sleepers are the guys who were drafted high (Schaub, Clemens, C. Jackson, Hagan, Calhoun). They aren't likely to be on the waiver wire in many leagues. However, there are a few guys to consider adding. Matt Cassel - Free agent after the 2008 season. He has looked pretty good so far considering his complete lack of college experience. I have him on the end of my bench in 4-5 leagues. He could eventually start. Willie Reid - Looks like a return man for the forseeable future, but he was a third round pick and he could eventually emerge as a WR. Kind of a poor man's Steve Smith. Brad Smith - QB to WR convert has some intriguing physical tools and really had a decent rookie year when you consider that he was playing a new position. If he had played WR in college, he might have gone much earlier than the early 4th round in last year's draft. Courtney Roby - Early 3rd round pick in 2005 still has plenty of time to get his career on track. Tennessee is weak at WR, so there's a real opportunity for someone to emerge. Lack of production is a concern. Johnnie Morant - Has beastly size and has been dominant in the preseason at times. 90 receiving yards in three NFL seasons is not very encouraging though. Delanie Walker - Small school TE got some hype during the offseason. His future looks limited with Vernon Davis around, but he could eventually become a player. Dominique Byrd - Might not be athletic or motivated enough to start in the NFL, but he's coordinated and was productive in college. Reminds me of Jerome Wiggins. My top picks from this group are Matt Cassel and Brad Smith. I feel like both guys have a reasonable chance of eventually starting in the NFL. The rest of these guys are longshots.
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I like Cassel (2 year from now)Brad Smith (I own him in every league Im in)Jonnie Morant (I was very big on him after watching him in the senior bowl guy was a beast and if you check his preseason number he has proven he can play)I'll add:Rashied Davis Wr CHI (big play potential and torched the preseason.)Marques Hagans WR STL (at the combine something about him says that he's gonna be alright. Made alot of mistake at the combine but I dont know he just has something that makes me think that if he gets an opportunity he'll be good.)
 
Love the Brad Smith and Orlovsky picks. Smith is probably not much more than a Randle El type, but even ARE was a viable #3 at times.

If the Lions don't bring in a FA QB or draft one, that signals to me that they are looking at Orlovsky taking over at some point.

Derrick Ward - most people know the name at least, but many won't. Small college (Ottawa University in Kansas), where he set NAIA single-season records with 2,061 rushing yards, 28 touchdowns and 7.8 yards per carry (263 attempts). With Tiki gone, Ward has a good chance to at least be part of the RBBC.

DeVale Ellis, DET WR - obviously behind Roy and Furrey, but if the Lions don't sign Curtis or draft CJ, he has a good shot to be the slot WR, or possibly move Furrey to the slot and take over as a deep threat.

IDP: Freddie Keiaho, IND LB

 
prymetyme25 said:
EBF said:
The best "out-of-nowhere" sleepers are the guys who were drafted high (Schaub, Clemens, C. Jackson, Hagan, Calhoun). They aren't likely to be on the waiver wire in many leagues. However, there are a few guys to consider adding. Matt Cassel - Free agent after the 2008 season. He has looked pretty good so far considering his complete lack of college experience. I have him on the end of my bench in 4-5 leagues. He could eventually start. Willie Reid - Looks like a return man for the forseeable future, but he was a third round pick and he could eventually emerge as a WR. Kind of a poor man's Steve Smith. Brad Smith - QB to WR convert has some intriguing physical tools and really had a decent rookie year when you consider that he was playing a new position. If he had played WR in college, he might have gone much earlier than the early 4th round in last year's draft. Courtney Roby - Early 3rd round pick in 2005 still has plenty of time to get his career on track. Tennessee is weak at WR, so there's a real opportunity for someone to emerge. Lack of production is a concern. Johnnie Morant - Has beastly size and has been dominant in the preseason at times. 90 receiving yards in three NFL seasons is not very encouraging though. Delanie Walker - Small school TE got some hype during the offseason. His future looks limited with Vernon Davis around, but he could eventually become a player. Dominique Byrd - Might not be athletic or motivated enough to start in the NFL, but he's coordinated and was productive in college. Reminds me of Jerome Wiggins. My top picks from this group are Matt Cassel and Brad Smith. I feel like both guys have a reasonable chance of eventually starting in the NFL. The rest of these guys are longshots.
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I like Cassel (2 year from now)Brad Smith (I own him in every league Im in)Jonnie Morant (I was very big on him after watching him in the senior bowl guy was a beast and if you check his preseason number he has proven he can play)I'll add:Rashied Davis Wr CHI (big play potential and torched the preseason.)Marques Hagans WR STL (at the combine something about him says that he's gonna be alright. Made alot of mistake at the combine but I dont know he just has something that makes me think that if he gets an opportunity he'll be good.)
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I'll also add:Brandon Williams WR, SF (Should have a good shot to compete for atleast the #3 spot.)
 
Wow, surprised that no one picked up on Martin Nance WR Min. They have absolutely no WR worth anything there and he was given some playing time at the end of the season. With the possible departure of MRobinson, MNance is the same style of player and could be a great red zone target.

 
Interesting that most of the names are WRs so far. Do you think that is the position most likely to produce a breakout, out of nowhere type player? If so, why?

 
ClownDogs said:
Wow, surprised that no one picked up on Martin Nance WR Min. They have absolutely no WR worth anything there and he was given some playing time at the end of the season. With the possible departure of MRobinson, MNance is the same style of player and could be a great red zone target.
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There is nothing possible about the departure of Marcus Robinson - he was cut before the end of the season
 
msommer said:
ClownDogs said:
Wow, surprised that no one picked up on Martin Nance WR Min. They have absolutely no WR worth anything there and he was given some playing time at the end of the season. With the possible departure of MRobinson, MNance is the same style of player and could be a great red zone target.
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There is nothing possible about the departure of Marcus Robinson - he was cut before the end of the season
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:goodposting: Oops......was too busy worrying about winning my leagues and totally forgot about that! Thanks!
 
I still believe (and have for a long time) that D.J. Hackett is the best all around talent in Seattle. He makes receptions that Jackson, Branch, Engram, and Burleson can't pull in. He's got the measurables. He's got the hands. He's got the ability to make the spectacular grab.

For the past two seasons I keep shaking my head wondering why he hasn't seen the field more. My suspicion is that he's not a good practice player, and may not be the best student in the classroom. All I've seen is his play on the field, and I continue to be impressed. There has to be a reason that Holmgren doesn't like him as much as his regulars. I just don't know what it is.

 
Shick! said:
I still believe (and have for a long time) that D.J. Hackett is the best all around talent in Seattle. He makes receptions that Jackson, Branch, Engram, and Burleson can't pull in. He's got the measurables. He's got the hands. He's got the ability to make the spectacular grab.

For the past two seasons I keep shaking my head wondering why he hasn't seen the field more. My suspicion is that he's not a good practice player, and may not be the best student in the classroom. All I've seen is his play on the field, and I continue to be impressed. There has to be a reason that Holmgren doesn't like him as much as his regulars. I just don't know what it is.
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:nerd: I like Hackett as well and I have heard the rumors that DJax could be on the move.
 
A lot of good calls already...

What does everyone think about Jerome Mathis, WR, HOU?

Moulds didn't step up last year, and we know what Mathis can do in the open field. I think everyone forgot about him when he got hurt.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
A lot of good calls already...What does everyone think about Jerome Mathis, WR, HOU?Moulds didn't step up last year, and we know what Mathis can do in the open field. I think everyone forgot about him when he got hurt.
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If we could keep him off of the motorcycle maybe. His hands are suspect too. But i like the opportunity for him to suceed. i have him on one of my dynasty teams. He would have made a big impact on the Texans season had he been there. He gave us great field position everytime he touched the ball. Now he could affected the Texans Def more FF wise.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
A lot of good calls already...

What does everyone think about Jerome Mathis, WR, HOU?

Moulds didn't step up last year, and we know what Mathis can do in the open field. I think everyone forgot about him when he got hurt time after time.
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FixedHasn't he been injured practically since he was drafted?

 
chris taylor rb hou..

re Hass, kicking my self for signing him over colston before colston emerged.. knew the work was going somewhere...

Basket in 2007..maybe the eagles get a day wide out this year?

 
jeter23 said:
Interesting that most of the names are WRs so far. Do you think that is the position most likely to produce a breakout, out of nowhere type player? If so, why?
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A few factors:1. WR is the one position where highly-drafted players find their way to the waiver wire fairly quickly. Guys like Courtney Roby, Travis Wilson, and Willie Reid are probably out on the wire in many leagues. They were all top 100 NFL draft picks within the past two years. Few RBs chosen in the same range within the past two years will be on the wire. Even guys like Arrington and Shelton are probably still rostered. For whatever reason, FF owners give up on WRs faster than they give up on RBs. This is probably the opposite of what they should do because...2. Out of all the skill positions, WR probably has the second biggest learning curve behind QB. It typically takes anywhere from 1-5 years for a WR to hit his stride. Guys like Donald Driver, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Bernard Berrian slowly worked their way up from the scrap heap. It's highly-probable that someone like Derek Hagan, Vincent Jackson, or Chad Jackson will be a top 20 WR in another year or two. Will this player come out of nowhere? Not really. It's just a matter of being prematurely disregarded for no real reason. 3. There are more starting WRs than RBs, meaning there are more opportunities for lesser players to produce fluke seasons. If Drew Bennett was a RB, he might be second string. But since he's a WR, he's a starter. That gives him an opportunity to produce.
 
prymetyme25 said:
msommer said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
A lot of good calls already...

What does everyone think about Jerome Mathis, WR, HOU?

Moulds didn't step up last year, and we know what Mathis can do in the open field. I think everyone forgot about him when he got hurt time after time.
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FixedHasn't he been injured practically since he was drafted?
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He made the pro Bowl his rookie year. Got hurt last year. KYF
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Mathis is an excellent Kick off returner...ok to average punt returner and a below average WR. His progression as a WR has been stunted. Last year he was injuired all season except for 2 games I beleive. He did not participate in off-season drills because of a motorcyle accident. During his rookie year, he had hamstring trouble, so he rarely practiced at WR so the Texans could take advantage of superior KO return skills. He was far from a polished WR coming out of the draft and really has not put in the time to improve those skills. Right now is a primary KR who is a speed option as a 4th or 5th WR. If your league rewards return yardage he is an option, but has work to do even become a regular 3rd WR.
 
EBF said:
jeter23 said:
Interesting that most of the names are WRs so far. Do you think that is the position most likely to produce a breakout, out of nowhere type player? If so, why?
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A few factors:1. WR is the one position where highly-drafted players find their way to the waiver wire fairly quickly. Guys like Courtney Roby, Travis Wilson, and Willie Reid are probably out on the wire in many leagues. They were all top 100 NFL draft picks within the past two years. Few RBs chosen in the same range within the past two years will be on the wire. Even guys like Arrington and Shelton are probably still rostered. For whatever reason, FF owners give up on WRs faster than they give up on RBs. This is probably the opposite of what they should do because...2. Out of all the skill positions, WR probably has the second biggest learning curve behind QB. It typically takes anywhere from 1-5 years for a WR to hit his stride. Guys like Donald Driver, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Bernard Berrian slowly worked their way up from the scrap heap. It's highly-probable that someone like Derek Hagan, Vincent Jackson, or Chad Jackson will be a top 20 WR in another year or two. Will this player come out of nowhere? Not really. It's just a matter of being prematurely disregarded for no real reason. 3. There are more starting WRs than RBs, meaning there are more opportunities for lesser players to produce fluke seasons. If Drew Bennett was a RB, he might be second string. But since he's a WR, he's a starter. That gives him an opportunity to produce.
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Thomas Howard LB OAK - He might be a year away, but I believe he will break out in a big way within the next 2 years. He's strong, very fast, great in coverage and a sure tackler. His reads needs improvement, but he had a very solid overall rookie campaign. Give him a little time and he will become a WLB star :shrug:

 
Patrick Crayton may be more well known than some but I see him starting within the next 1-2 years and the offense not missing a beat.

 
Captain Spaulding said:
EBF said:
jeter23 said:
Interesting that most of the names are WRs so far. Do you think that is the position most likely to produce a breakout, out of nowhere type player? If so, why?
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A few factors:1. WR is the one position where highly-drafted players find their way to the waiver wire fairly quickly. Guys like Courtney Roby, Travis Wilson, and Willie Reid are probably out on the wire in many leagues. They were all top 100 NFL draft picks within the past two years. Few RBs chosen in the same range within the past two years will be on the wire. Even guys like Arrington and Shelton are probably still rostered. For whatever reason, FF owners give up on WRs faster than they give up on RBs. This is probably the opposite of what they should do because...2. Out of all the skill positions, WR probably has the second biggest learning curve behind QB. It typically takes anywhere from 1-5 years for a WR to hit his stride. Guys like Donald Driver, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Bernard Berrian slowly worked their way up from the scrap heap. It's highly-probable that someone like Derek Hagan, Vincent Jackson, or Chad Jackson will be a top 20 WR in another year or two. Will this player come out of nowhere? Not really. It's just a matter of being prematurely disregarded for no real reason. 3. There are more starting WRs than RBs, meaning there are more opportunities for lesser players to produce fluke seasons. If Drew Bennett was a RB, he might be second string. But since he's a WR, he's a starter. That gives him an opportunity to produce.
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agreed, I'll add that while NFL teams and fans are enamored with speed, it's route running, hands and work ethic that make an NFL WR great. Although speed helps a lot, without those 3, speed won't do much. The problem is it's difficult to scout work ethic ahead of time, as most NFL caliber talents can skate by in college. Route running comes from working at it. With running backs, it seems to be easier to scout power and speed. Work ethic is still important, but IMO RBs can still produce without working as hard. Simply put, IMO it's easier to scout RBs than WRs.
 
for every " dynasty deep WR sleeper " you are almost better to waste the roster spot on a # 3 or # 4 or # 3 QB >> BECAUSE they are most likely to actually see the field or gain value ..

all the Wr mentioned above could do something .. but more likely will go the way of SUPER SLEEPER WR - ONO OJO !!!!!! for those of you who remember him ..

 
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