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Playing Keving Smith this week (1 Viewer)

I really want to start Smith, but I'm not sure if I can/should bench Forte, Murray or M.Bush.

Trying to trade Bush to the McFadden owner, but he's in last place and has understandably lost some interest.

 
I really want to start Smith, but I'm not sure if I can/should bench Forte, Murray or M.Bush.Trying to trade Bush to the McFadden owner, but he's in last place and has understandably lost some interest.
Well, I'm in a league with double flex so my 2nd flex option is Smith, Damian Williams, or Earl Bennett. I'm going with Smith. My RB's will be Rice, MJD, Bush and Smith. My WR's will be Mike Wallace and Lloyd.
 
Debating between Lagarrette Blount and Kevin Smith. Fred Jackson to the bench.

Still haven't decided but leaning towards Smith.

 
3 wr, 2 rb, 1 flex

starting: fitzgerald, nicks, dez, mccoy, tate and k smith...

sitting: santonio, stevie, starks, hunter, bennett and best, obviously.

 
I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.

Anyone want to convince me one way or another?

 
I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.
 
Green Bay is no. 24 in FF pts allowed to RB's.

Carolina was No. 1 in points allowed. Four times they have allowed RB committees 30+ points. Four times RBs have gotten 22+ point games by themselves.

I wouldn't start him over Michael Bush.

 
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I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.
I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.
 
'SaintsInDome2006 said:
Green Bay is no. 24 in FF pts allowed to RB's.Carolina was No. 1 in points allowed. Four times they have allowed RB committees 30+ points. Four times RBs have gotten 22+ point games by themselves.I wouldn't start him over Michael Bush.
24th in FF points allowed to running backs can be a bit misleading. I just looked game by game and the thing that sticks out is that plenty of backs had decent yardage against Green Bay, either on the ground or through the air. No RB scored a touchdown against them until Michael Turner did it in week 5. Lagarrette Blount was able to have a good game against them. Kevin Smith should get plenty of opportunity in the passing game as well.
 
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GB is a great opportunity for a pass catching back like Smith.

Ray Rice is match up proof in ppr if you're not expecting 22+ points every week.

 
'*Juggernaut* said:
I really want to start Smith, but I'm not sure if I can/should bench Forte, Murray or M.Bush.Trying to trade Bush to the McFadden owner, but he's in last place and has understandably lost some interest.
I also have Bush and Murray. I don't think I'm going to insert Smith just yet. Those are proven while Smith did play the ####ty Carolina D.
 
I have to pick 2 between Smith, Mende, and Murray. As crazy as it sounds, I am sitting Murray (at least as of this moment).

I think Pitt runs more with Ben's bad hand and a crap KC D. So I start Mende

Then to chose between Murray and Smith.

- Murray facing Miami D which is pretty stout. Also, it may not be a very high scoring game

- Smith is facing GB, so I expect lots of points, with hopefully some going to Smith.

 
'display name said:
'simey said:
'display name said:
I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.
I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.
I think the temper your expectations group need to temper their temperance. I've seen 23rd, 24th, and 30th vs RBs thrown about, and I'm not sure about your scoring systems or where you are getting those rankings. In the league where I swooped up Smith, GB gives up 13 most fantasy points to RBs. It's a yardage heavy PPR, so I can see how GB might be better in non PPR or TD only leagues. The big reason I will play Smith over Fjax or Ingram or Santonio this week is that for the season, GB is giving up an average of 6 receptions for 50 yards to RB committees, and that includes such pass catching luminaries as blount (1/6), turner (0/0), and McGahee (2/10). So in my league, if he gets 80 yards rushing (around GB's season average surrendered), 4 receptions for 40 yards, and a shot at a TD, I'm looking at 16-20 pts from my flex. I will take that any day of the week.And I will also point you all to another temper your expectations thread, demarco Murray approximately 5 weeks ago, after his 250 yard performance vs the rams. FF championships are won by picking up guys like Jerome Harrison, Antonio Bryant, Brandon Lloyd, and Peyton Hillis, while others temper their expectations.
 
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I'm strongly considering benching one of MJD, SJax, Welker, VJax or B.Lloyd for him. ...Right now it's looking like it'll be one of the WR's on the bench for him in the Flex but it's going to be a tough call for sure.

 
Over Wells and Chris Johnson.

If I'm going down this year, I want to go down with a "dog in the fight" for the Thanksgiving game and with Johnson on my bench.

 
Over:

Beanie Wells

Mark Ingram

Darren McFadden

Willis McGahee

I am sure at least 1 of these 4 will outscore him as well. :)

 
This would have been a cool post last week. Now it's clear you must find a way to get him in the lineup, over who doesn't really matter now.

Like saying, Starting DeMarco Murray over WHO?

 
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This would have been a cool post last week. Now it's clear you must find a way to get him in the lineup, over who doesn't really matter now.Like saying, Starting DeMarco Murray over WHO?
It's a little tougher when you're talking playing Smith over, say, M. Bush, Murray, or MJD. Due to draft position/injuries/waiver pickups, that's a pretty viable backfield people might have, without having to be playing in a 4-teamer vs. the church-group glee club. And it's not clear which of the others one might sit to make room for Smith.
 
'display name said:
'simey said:
'display name said:
I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.
I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.
I would start Rice. The Ravens play well at home, and I'd take my chance on him, but I certainly don't fault anyone for taking a chance on Smith @ home versus Green Bay.
 
Feel like I'm in Bizzaro World, but I'm contemplating him over CJ?K and Ryan Mathews. Have to start three of four (Mendy/CJ/Mathews/Smith).

I love Mendy off the BYE week. Mathews has a nice home match-up. CJ is home with a soft Buc D. I just can't shake the thought though, that Smith will be involved in a high-scoring affair. Throw in the National TV home game and I'm all but convinced he's a "must" start.

 
You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.

Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.

 
You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.
Good projection. :sarcasm:
 
You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.
Good projection. :sarcasm:
I think you should go back and check the stats of the game last season in Detoit.
 
You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.
Good projection. :sarcasm:
I think you should go back and check the stats of the game last season in Detoit.
I think the 4.7 yards per attempt the Packers have given up this year (7th worst in the NFL) is a tad more relevant.
 
Would you start Smith over a guy like Ben Tate goes against Jacksonville? I'm thinking yes, but the poster above makes a good point about chasing the points from a previous week.

 
Sucks having a player like Blount. You have to endure 5 weeks of torture to reap any benefit and that's if he's even in your lineup then you plug him in after he performs and lays a FAT goose egg. He had a 56 yard ridiculous TD run. Sweet. Not likely to happen again.

You're dead to me Blount. Start Kevin Smith over him with confidence.

 

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