Well, I'm in a league with double flex so my 2nd flex option is Smith, Damian Williams, or Earl Bennett. I'm going with Smith. My RB's will be Rice, MJD, Bush and Smith. My WR's will be Mike Wallace and Lloyd.I really want to start Smith, but I'm not sure if I can/should bench Forte, Murray or M.Bush.Trying to trade Bush to the McFadden owner, but he's in last place and has understandably lost some interest.
It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
How much of that is because most teams are playing catch up most of the game?Green Bay is no. 24 in FF pts allowed to RB's.
24th in FF points allowed to running backs can be a bit misleading. I just looked game by game and the thing that sticks out is that plenty of backs had decent yardage against Green Bay, either on the ground or through the air. No RB scored a touchdown against them until Michael Turner did it in week 5. Lagarrette Blount was able to have a good game against them. Kevin Smith should get plenty of opportunity in the passing game as well.'SaintsInDome2006 said:Green Bay is no. 24 in FF pts allowed to RB's.Carolina was No. 1 in points allowed. Four times they have allowed RB committees 30+ points. Four times RBs have gotten 22+ point games by themselves.I wouldn't start him over Michael Bush.
I also have Bush and Murray. I don't think I'm going to insert Smith just yet. Those are proven while Smith did play the ####ty Carolina D.'*Juggernaut* said:I really want to start Smith, but I'm not sure if I can/should bench Forte, Murray or M.Bush.Trying to trade Bush to the McFadden owner, but he's in last place and has understandably lost some interest.
I think the temper your expectations group need to temper their temperance. I've seen 23rd, 24th, and 30th vs RBs thrown about, and I'm not sure about your scoring systems or where you are getting those rankings. In the league where I swooped up Smith, GB gives up 13 most fantasy points to RBs. It's a yardage heavy PPR, so I can see how GB might be better in non PPR or TD only leagues. The big reason I will play Smith over Fjax or Ingram or Santonio this week is that for the season, GB is giving up an average of 6 receptions for 50 yards to RB committees, and that includes such pass catching luminaries as blount (1/6), turner (0/0), and McGahee (2/10). So in my league, if he gets 80 yards rushing (around GB's season average surrendered), 4 receptions for 40 yards, and a shot at a TD, I'm looking at 16-20 pts from my flex. I will take that any day of the week.And I will also point you all to another temper your expectations thread, demarco Murray approximately 5 weeks ago, after his 250 yard performance vs the rams. FF championships are won by picking up guys like Jerome Harrison, Antonio Bryant, Brandon Lloyd, and Peyton Hillis, while others temper their expectations.'display name said:I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.'simey said:It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.'display name said:I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
Benson has a really nice match-up agains the Browns. This is a tough decision for me too.'The Doctor said:cj and benson
I am also debating over Turner in a PPR.Over Sproles and debating over Turner.
Mine's in non-PPR.Turner gives me 80 yds and a TD about every week. But we do all-play, so I need the upside to make the playoffs.I am expecting 120 all-purpose yds (which leaves me 2 pts shy of Turner's average game). But one or two TD's for Smith is gonna put it over the top.I am also debating over Turner in a PPR.Over Sproles and debating over Turner.
glad my auction leagues prevent previous owners from bidding on players they drop.I'm cutting Adrian Peterson for him. Playing him. Then cutting him for Peterson next week in our auction league.
It's a little tougher when you're talking playing Smith over, say, M. Bush, Murray, or MJD. Due to draft position/injuries/waiver pickups, that's a pretty viable backfield people might have, without having to be playing in a 4-teamer vs. the church-group glee club. And it's not clear which of the others one might sit to make room for Smith.This would have been a cool post last week. Now it's clear you must find a way to get him in the lineup, over who doesn't really matter now.Like saying, Starting DeMarco Murray over WHO?
I would start Rice. The Ravens play well at home, and I'd take my chance on him, but I certainly don't fault anyone for taking a chance on Smith @ home versus Green Bay.'display name said:I think part of the reason for that is because in the early going you'll see stat lines like 6 carries for 14 yds. There has also been some noise this season about how stubborn Cameron is to make adjustments (no link but there was an article last week about it). He apparently doesn't listen to feedback from his players when they suggest adjustments. Ray Rice's season has really been made on short touchdowns this year. That, and 51 receptions so far. But he really hasn't been very explosive in the receiving game and I think through the air is his best chance at success against the 49ers.1st ranked rush defense vs 23rd ranked rush offense. I'm leery. Okay hijack over. But really this is a question of would you start Smith over Rice this week with his terrible match up. Blount looked great against Green Bay and it could be another shoot out for Detroit.'simey said:It seems the few games Ray Rice hasn't had good numbers are the games the Ravens abandoned the run way too early, and they had a really bad game plan. Hopefully Cam Cameron learned something from those games.'display name said:I'm actually considering starting both Blount and Smith and sitting Ray Rice. Sounds crazy I know but SF is the top run defense Baltimore just hasn't been very productive on the ground. Ray Rice is not match up proof.Anyone want to convince me one way or another?
Seems silly to me.glad my auction leagues prevent previous owners from bidding on players they drop.I'm cutting Adrian Peterson for him. Playing him. Then cutting him for Peterson next week in our auction league.
Good projection.You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.
I think you should go back and check the stats of the game last season in Detoit.Good projection.You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.![]()
I think the 4.7 yards per attempt the Packers have given up this year (7th worst in the NFL) is a tad more relevant.I think you should go back and check the stats of the game last season in Detoit.Good projection.You guys realize what will happen right ? Same thing that happened last week with D-Moore and V-Brown 2 guys who single handily took me out of the playoffs as I lost by 5 pts in a PPR league.Kevin Smith will go for like 24 yards on 14 carries with 1 catch for 7 yards.![]()