Plummer to get benched? (1 Viewer)

[SickThing]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

Speak for yourself. Mentions of ones own team occasionally during relative content doesn't bother me at all. The posts whining about that OTOH... Sorry for not adding to the topic, but I was being misrepresented.

 

[moleculo]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

I agree with mnesvig. It's a bad habit, and I do my absolute best not to talk aobut my particular team unless the thread deals specifically with that. Plummer getting benched affects several of my teams directly or indirectly, but I will never talk about that becase I sincerely doubt anyone cares.

 

[Bri]

Sorry to stay on topic and confuse you guys

What are the chances Adam's wrong here?

 

[-OZ-]

I hesitate to ask, but any projections for the impact on Denver's offense? Walker in particular.

Long term, I love it, Cutler needs time to learn this year, but I'm not sure I like the immediate impact on JW.

 

[BassNBrew]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

And I'll explain via PM if you're interested.

 

[joeski]

Why would a 7-3 team, 5th best record (tied) in the league do this? Shanny is off his rocker.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Hey CecilDie hard Donkey fan here, any truth that some of the players requested this or leaked this out to the media, been talking to some long time Broncs fans based out of Denver today and they said that some of the radio stations have whispered that it was the players that requested it or leaked it to the media in the hopes that Shanny will act.said something along the lines that even though the defense was weak, its Plummer putting them in impossible situations like INTS within 30 yards of the endzone and constant 3 and outs that's tiring out the defense.again, these are only RUMORS that i've heard talking to some local Broncos fans, just hoping that Cecil can clarifyalso what's all the talk about Plummer to the Eagles, how serious is that and who the heck would Denver have as a veteran backup?

Pinda- that's the most I can say. That is the rumblings you hear, and sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

Cecil: Talk to us about the Nash angle. Plummer sounds like a done deal, but you also slipped Nash into the conversation earlier. There's been a lot less "meat" to that story. How likely is that move? Would he see a majority of carries or just be another addition to rotation? Would it be a permanent deal or just until T or M Bell gets better? Or is it just a throw [RBs] at the wall and see what sticks kind of deal? You're the one who opened the door on this one...

I know that Nash is considered to be the best cutback runner on the team. He has been with them since late training camp. Andre Hall has been getting some looks from the PS as well. Shanny is in rare form with this RB situation.

 

[Billy1x]

Why would a 7-3 team, 5th best record (tied) in the league do this? Shanny is off his rocker.

He thinks Cutler is Dan Marino.

 

[Marc Levin]

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

i hear ya - it is rare that a staff member will do it, but sometimes we do. regardless, it is an unavoidable occurrence and we don't crack down on it or discourage it. It is probably just one of those things that is best to approach with the humor you displayed.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Hey CecilDie hard Donkey fan here, any truth that some of the players requested this or leaked this out to the media, been talking to some long time Broncs fans based out of Denver today and they said that some of the radio stations have whispered that it was the players that requested it or leaked it to the media in the hopes that Shanny will act.said something along the lines that even though the defense was weak, its Plummer putting them in impossible situations like INTS within 30 yards of the endzone and constant 3 and outs that's tiring out the defense.again, these are only RUMORS that i've heard talking to some local Broncos fans, just hoping that Cecil can clarifyalso what's all the talk about Plummer to the Eagles, how serious is that and who the heck would Denver have as a veteran backup?

Pinda- that's the most I can say. That is the rumblings you hear, and sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

Cecil: Talk to us about the Nash angle. Plummer sounds like a done deal, but you also slipped Nash into the conversation earlier. There's been a lot less "meat" to that story. How likely is that move? Would he see a majority of carries or just be another addition to rotation? Would it be a permanent deal or just until T or M Bell gets better? Or is it just a throw [RBs] at the wall and see what sticks kind of deal? You're the one who opened the door on this one...

I know that Nash is considered to be the best cutback runner on the team. He has been with them since late training camp. Andre Hall has been getting some looks from the PS as well. Shanny is in rare form with this RB situation.

Andre Hall can ball.

 

[Marc Levin]

Sorry to stay on topic and confuse you guysWhat are the chances Adam's wrong here?

Good question.He didn;t say it was definitive that Cutler would start - he said it was "likely." I tend to trust Adam implicitly on the Broncos as his sources are usually very good.But, there has been no statement from the team, so there is definitely a chance this is just wishful thinking on those close to the Broncos.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Hey CecilDie hard Donkey fan here, any truth that some of the players requested this or leaked this out to the media, been talking to some long time Broncs fans based out of Denver today and they said that some of the radio stations have whispered that it was the players that requested it or leaked it to the media in the hopes that Shanny will act.said something along the lines that even though the defense was weak, its Plummer putting them in impossible situations like INTS within 30 yards of the endzone and constant 3 and outs that's tiring out the defense.again, these are only RUMORS that i've heard talking to some local Broncos fans, just hoping that Cecil can clarifyalso what's all the talk about Plummer to the Eagles, how serious is that and who the heck would Denver have as a veteran backup?

Pinda- that's the most I can say. That is the rumblings you hear, and sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

Cecil: Talk to us about the Nash angle. Plummer sounds like a done deal, but you also slipped Nash into the conversation earlier. There's been a lot less "meat" to that story. How likely is that move? Would he see a majority of carries or just be another addition to rotation? Would it be a permanent deal or just until T or M Bell gets better? Or is it just a throw [RBs] at the wall and see what sticks kind of deal? You're the one who opened the door on this one...

I know that Nash is considered to be the best cutback runner on the team. He has been with them since late training camp. Andre Hall has been getting some looks from the PS as well. Shanny is in rare form with this RB situation.

Andre Hall can ball.

Shanny loves the kid.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Hey CecilDie hard Donkey fan here, any truth that some of the players requested this or leaked this out to the media, been talking to some long time Broncs fans based out of Denver today and they said that some of the radio stations have whispered that it was the players that requested it or leaked it to the media in the hopes that Shanny will act.said something along the lines that even though the defense was weak, its Plummer putting them in impossible situations like INTS within 30 yards of the endzone and constant 3 and outs that's tiring out the defense.again, these are only RUMORS that i've heard talking to some local Broncos fans, just hoping that Cecil can clarifyalso what's all the talk about Plummer to the Eagles, how serious is that and who the heck would Denver have as a veteran backup?

Pinda- that's the most I can say. That is the rumblings you hear, and sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

Cecil: Talk to us about the Nash angle. Plummer sounds like a done deal, but you also slipped Nash into the conversation earlier. There's been a lot less "meat" to that story. How likely is that move? Would he see a majority of carries or just be another addition to rotation? Would it be a permanent deal or just until T or M Bell gets better? Or is it just a throw [RBs] at the wall and see what sticks kind of deal? You're the one who opened the door on this one...

I know that Nash is considered to be the best cutback runner on the team. He has been with them since late training camp. Andre Hall has been getting some looks from the PS as well. Shanny is in rare form with this RB situation.

Andre Hall can ball.

Shanny loves the kid.

His highlight package from last year looks alot better than an undrafted free agent's, I'll tell you that.

 

[Bri]

Sorry to stay on topic and confuse you guysWhat are the chances Adam's wrong here?

Good question.He didn;t say it was definitive that Cutler would start - he said it was "likely." I tend to trust Adam implicitly on the Broncos as his sources are usually very good.But, there has been no statement from the team, so there is definitely a chance this is just wishful thinking on those close to the Broncos.

likely

 

[broncofan13000]

Why would a 7-3 team, 5th best record (tied) in the league do this? Shanny is off his rocker.

He thinks Cutler isDanTony MarinRomo .

fixed.

 

[SickThing]

Why would a 7-3 team, 5th best record (tied) in the league do this? Shanny is off his rocker.

He thinks Cutler isDanTony MarinRomo .

fixed.

This crossed my mind also. Since successfully replacing the struggling veteren Bledsoe with the young gun Romo, Gibbs has made the switch also and now it looks like Shanny will try it too. The thing is though Romo's had a few years to study, and even with that the coach still worries. Which leads to the other possible influences... we have rookie QBs already being the starter too. It's been an interesting season for that.

I don't have much insight into Cutler, but I think as long as Denver is a winning team I wouldn't make the change.

 

[malice]

I am sorry this is a ploy. If Denver wins with Plummer this week, Jake starts next week guaranteed.If they lose, then I can see Cutler maybe getting looked at for Seattle, and you can mark it down right now, the team will still struggle just as much.The play calling is what is killing this team not the players.

The play calling, as well as the running back roulette and the defense not playing up to expectations are all giving this team an identity crisis- now they're going to shake up the QB position as well? The SD game was lost by not having an answer for LT in the 2nd half. If LJ does the same to them in KC, that isn't Plummer's fault either.Plummer hasn't lit it up, but he has had some decent games when given more than just Walker as a target. It's a given that this team is Cutler's in the future anyway- but why turn over the reins when the postseason is still within reach? It just seems like they're trying too hard for another Romo-rags to riches story.

Let me repeat, he's the 37th ranked QB in the league ahead of only V. Young, Walter and Leinart (all 1st year starters). Considering he's got a great running game and a good defense that's unacceptable.

Does he really have a great running game right now? He's got a motley crew of ever-changing backs of various degrees of experience and different styles, with developing blocking schemes as a work-in-progress. Some of these backs can catch (Nash, M.Bell), some have bricks for hands (Sapp). He doesn't have a dump-off TE which has been a long-time staple of an efficient DEN offense. The defense is good, but has been banged up in recent weeks with Darrent Williams, Lynch, Gold, and now Ferguson all nursing various injuries. He's also lost Lepsis, and Rod Smith has been fighting a shoulder injury as well in recent weeks.All that aside, now it's time to change the QB? It just seems like a rough time to do it with so much in flux already and so much at stake.

 

[Banger]

I am sorry this is a ploy. If Denver wins with Plummer this week, Jake starts next week guaranteed.If they lose, then I can see Cutler maybe getting looked at for Seattle, and you can mark it down right now, the team will still struggle just as much.The play calling is what is killing this team not the players.

The play calling, as well as the running back roulette and the defense not playing up to expectations are all giving this team an identity crisis- now they're going to shake up the QB position as well? The SD game was lost by not having an answer for LT in the 2nd half. If LJ does the same to them in KC, that isn't Plummer's fault either.Plummer hasn't lit it up, but he has had some decent games when given more than just Walker as a target. It's a given that this team is Cutler's in the future anyway- but why turn over the reins when the postseason is still within reach? It just seems like they're trying too hard for another Romo-rags to riches story.

Let me repeat, he's the 37th ranked QB in the league ahead of only V. Young, Walter and Leinart (all 1st year starters). Considering he's got a great running game and a good defense that's unacceptable.

Does he really have a great running game right now? He's got a motley crew of ever-changing backs of various degrees of experience and different styles, with developing blocking schemes as a work-in-progress. Some of these backs can catch (Nash, M.Bell), some have bricks for hands (Sapp). He doesn't have a dump-off TE which has been a long-time staple of an efficient DEN offense. The defense is good, but has been banged up in recent weeks with Darrent Williams, Lynch, Gold, and now Ferguson all nursing various injuries. He's also lost Lepsis, and Rod Smith has been fighting a shoulder injury as well in recent weeks.All that aside, now it's time to change the QB? It just seems like a rough time to do it with so much in flux already and so much at stake.

I agree that the timing isn't right but we aren't there in practice. We aren't watching the films. We don't really know what is going on and Shanny may realize that the way Plummer has played this year they don't have a shot. He's changed out other players that he thought would help the team win and he may end up doing the same with Plummer.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

 

[moleculo]

by the way - something smells fishy here. Announcing a QB change two weeks prior is extremely un-Shanahan like.

The Shanahan play would be announce that Cutler will get the start 15 min prior to kickoff.

That leaves me with three conclusions:

1) Speculation by Schefter.

2) Info leaked by Shanahan as a ploy to motivate Bell Plummer.

3) Info leaked by someone else, against the Bronco's best wishes.

I really don't know how to interpret this.

Moleculo all over it, as usual. Going against the Broncos "best wishes" is completely Un-Schefter like. In fact, while in Denver some questioned his objectivity (he co-wrote Shanny's, TD's, and Romanowski's book).

Shanahan's book is great BTW.

here's some interesting posts from www.orangemane.com - a broncos MB:

On Tuesday's Practice

"The ball hit the ground one time, and that was a bad throw," Smith said. "Everybody was crisp. It was clean, no mistakes. The backs ran hard. The quarterback made the right reads and the receivers caught the ball. It was honestly, I feel, the best practice we've had all season."

Jay or Jake? THE QB...That doesn't sound like Rod...he usually says Jake when talking about him not the QB!

Maybe it leaked that Jay was getting more reps and Shanny covered the fact hes starting tomarrow by throwing out the seahag junk. It would also serve the purpose of not making Jay the center of attention all this week.

Its the only thing that makes any sense at all. Its actually quite beautiful IMO

He gets ZERO media attention before his first start.

Now the chefs have thier game plan to force Plummer to stay in the pocket and throw down field.......it plays more into Jays hands.

could we see Jay starting tomorrow? that would make sense with the timing of this news breaking...Like I said above, something smells fishy.Just a word of caution.

more fuel for the fire: some guy on that other FF message board is claiming to have inside info from a family member inside the Bronco orginization that Cutler will start vs KC (it's a pretty terrible thread so I won't bother posting it).I know, I'm preaching the point of view, but we could be seeing the changing of the guard today. If you are desparate at all for a QB (read: McNabb owners), you better snag Cutler now - next week could be too late.

 

[Big Score]

The only way Cutler even gets a SNIFF of the starting lineup this year is if Plummer is injured. Take it to the bank.

 

[dickey moe]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

 

[Bri]

The only way Cutler even gets a SNIFF of the starting lineup this year is if Plummer is injured. Take it to the bank.

In one corner SSOG In the other corner Adam

 

[BrentBlack]

I hope it's true - my week 13 opponent has only Plummer and Brunell as his QBs - and we froze rosters this past week. I am #2 overall in my league, I win one of the next two and I clinch my division. If either the #1 or #3 guy lose either of their games and I win one, I clinch a first round playoff bye.

Thank god. I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that critical piece of information.

Glad to be of service.I'll keep you posted through PMs - including live updates. Cool?

Seriously, has this virus now spread to the STAFF?

Unfortunately, we all love to talk about our teams aroudb playoff time. That said, there was content in my post. You'll never see us posting team posts just for the heck of it.

Regardless, is it really that big a deal? We who moderate and spend a lot of time in the Pool don't care, so . . .

Well, I care. So do most "regulars" in here. It is a pain to waste time going through all these posts that relate to no one but the person posting them. It buries the actual news/relevant opinion. I thought we had a pinned whining/bragging/talking only about stuff that pertains to you thread? It would be nice if the staff could set a good example.

 

[Diamond One]

From the Rocky Mountain News... Think this cartoon says it all!

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/...ncos_style.html

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

My favorite cartoon about Jake Plummer:

http://www.jasonabeattie.com/fo071404.html