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Police Department Asks for whole city's Google searches, and a judge says yes (1 Viewer)

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http://www.citypages.com/news/edina-police-ask-for-whole-citys-google-searches-and-a-judge-says-yes/416319633

(For those not familiar with Minnesota... Edina is a Minneapolis suburb that border Mpls city proper, fair to call the suburb "upper-middle class" with "all one-percenters, all the time" in play... CityPages is an alternative Twin Cities newspaper known for outstanding coverage of the local music and arts scene, as well as the occasional dive into local politics)

 

 The people of Edina probably don't know it, but they're doing battle with the Edina Police Department over the right to online privacy.






 


The cops are winning.

As detailed in a report from Tony Webster earlier this week, a Hennepin County judge has granted the Edina Police Department an extraordinary degree of access to citizens' Google history, as cops attempt to crack the case of a wire transfer fraud. 

In specific, police want to know who has searched for a particular name used as part of that fraud. Typed into Google, a search for the same name -- "Douglas" something, according to a warrant -- also turns up photos that were used on a fake passport by the criminal, who was seeking a fraudulent wire transfer of $28,500. 

Cops figure if they could just find out who in that affluent suburb has Googled that name, they'd narrow their suspect list right down. Of course, people's Google search history not only isn't public, it's not usually available to local cops trying to bust a small-time swindler. 

And yet, on February 1, Hennepin County Judge Gary Larson agreed with the police, approving a search warrant that looks into "any/all user or subscriber information" of anyone in Edina who'd looked up that name between December 1, 2016, and January 7. Later that same day, an investigator filed the warrant with Google's "custodian of records" department in California. 






The warrant requests the day and time of the search, though that's not all. Search warrant findings should  "include, but [are] not limited to: name(s), address(es), telephone number(s), dates of birth, social security numbers, email addresses, payment information, account information, IP addresses, and MAC addresses of the person(s) who requested/completed the search."

Oh, and while you're at it, Google, why not throw in what kind of porn they like? 

 
Whether Google will -- or even can -- grant Edina's search request is unclear, but Webster notes this kind of broadly applied search puts Edina (and, now, Hennepin County) pretty damn far down the slippery slope:


"If Google were to provide personal information on anyone who Googled the victim’s name, would Edina Police raid their homes, or would they first do further investigative work? The question is: what comes next? If you bought a pressure cooker on Amazon a month before the Boston bombing, do police get to know about it?"


Fair point. But even in that example, it's a reference to an investigation of an imminent national security threat. In the case of "Douglas (something or other)," Edina police are raiding people's Google history to catch a man who committed $28,500 worth of bank fraud.

Do not mess with Edina's banks.
 
Jesus, that's almost a textbook definition of police state.

Eta* Almost. At least they still ostensibly need some standard, and there is still a warrant requirement.

 
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Trying to calculate how much money would be recovered if all bank fraud cases 25 racks and up were pursued with this level of vigor.  Gotta be close to a trillion.
No, they'd just pay a stiff fine.

They'd pocket the difference.

 
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Fair to point out that the title here is pretty misleading though, right?

They're not getting a list of what everyone searched on google, rather they're getting a list of people who searched for one particular phrase.

So my Asian ### Porn searches are still safe.

 
Fair to point out that the title here is pretty misleading though, right?

They're not getting a list of what everyone searched on google, rather they're getting a list of people who searched for one particular phrase.

So my Asian ### Porn searches are still safe.
The phrase being Douglas. So if you searched for Douglas Fairbanks, Michael Douglas, Douglas Aircraft, Douglas Wilkerson, Douglas E. Davis, etc. - no privacy for you! Nah, no overstepping bounds there.

 
The phrase being Douglas. So if you searched for Douglas Fairbanks, Michael Douglas, Douglas Aircraft, Douglas Wilkerson, Douglas E. Davis, etc. - no privacy for you! Nah, no overstepping bounds there.
What if I searched for Debbie does Douglas?

 
There's no way Google will comply.  They'll say no, get sued, this dumb request will get overturned, police will appeal, it will get denied, the end.

 
Situation 1:

Police seek a warrant to be given the information of someone from a specific city limits who did a specific web search within a time frame. They only get back the list of people who did the search, no access to other search histories.

Situation 2:

Police seek a warrant to be given the information of any phone number anywhere in the world that exchanged calls/texts with a specific phone within a time frame. They only get back the list of numbers that called the phone, along with info on who the number belongs to.

What's the practical difference that one is acceptable and the other is not?

 
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