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Anyone here have an in-ground pool and had to drain and refill it? My calcium level has reached it‘s max and need to do it. Any experience or advice is welcomed. Thanks.
 
Anyone here have an in-ground pool and had to drain and refill it? My calcium level has reached it‘s max and need to do it. Any experience or advice is welcomed. Thanks.
There's a pool thread with like 1000 posts in it, would start there. Calcium level being too high maybe only have to drain half of it though tbh.
 
Anyone here have an in-ground pool and had to drain and refill it? My calcium level has reached it‘s max and need to do it. Any experience or advice is welcomed. Thanks.
Im you man.

What state are you in?
 
IMO, if your going to drain it, you might as well drain the whole thing. Assuming you dont have to truck in water.

1) buy this https://www.harborfreight.com/13-hp-submersible-utility-pump-2000-gph-63318.html
2) hook up garden hoses.
3) decide where to drain, you might have black sewer clean outs in front of your house.
4) turn off pool pump and auto filler
5) drain pool
6) fill pool with hose
7) do start up chems. Dont forget this https://lesliespool.com/leslies-instant-pool-water-conditioner-plus-1-gallon/12323.html
 
Anyone here have an in-ground pool and had to drain and refill it? My calcium level has reached it‘s max and need to do it. Any experience or advice is welcomed. Thanks.
There's a pool thread with like 1000 posts in it, would start there. Calcium level being too high maybe only have to drain half of it though tbh.
Thanks. Did search but didn’t see anything. The search function sucks.
 
also, is it plaster, pebble, vinyl?
Plaster, redone in 2016 I believe (previous owners). Last time pool water was drained too in all likelihood.
My instructions above should apply then.

You can even wash the sides and bottom if you want, but you must shop vac out all the dirt
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
 
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
That’s what I was thinking too but it’s such a maze of pipes and valves I’m not sure what’s what. I also have the pop up in ground nozzles that clean instead of the roaming vacuum and roof top pool solar so I think that all adds piping and valves over the “norm”.
 
also, is it plaster, pebble, vinyl?
Plaster, redone in 2016 I believe (previous owners). Last time pool water was drained too in all likelihood.
My instructions above should apply then.

You can even wash the sides and bottom if you want, but you must shop vac out all the dirt
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
Only sand filter have a waste function. not cartridge or DE, and cartridge is the most popular out here in the west.
Also, If you give this advice, and then the pump sucks in air from the skimmer and burns up the pump, that would be bad.
 
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
That’s what I was thinking too but it’s such a maze of pipes and valves I’m not sure what’s what. I also have the pop up in ground nozzles that clean instead of the roaming vacuum and roof top pool solar so I think that all adds piping and valves over the “norm”.
It does. Alot more valves. and things to goof up.

If you are a novice, I would go with my advice. be sure that pump will not turn back on while draining though, even if you have to throw the breaker.
 
does. Alot more valves. and things to goof up.

If you are a novice, I would go with my advice. be sure that pump will not turn back on while draining though, even if you have to throw the breaker.
I’m capable and do all the maintenance on it (clean and/or replace cartridge filters, acid clean the salt cell, etc etc) but don’t want to do any true damage Your method makes sense and looks easy.

On a side note what do you know of the reverse osmosis companies out there. I’m thinking of doing that as an option instead….
 
also, is it plaster, pebble, vinyl?
Plaster, redone in 2016 I believe (previous owners). Last time pool water was drained too in all likelihood.
My instructions above should apply then.

You can even wash the sides and bottom if you want, but you must shop vac out all the dirt
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
Only sand filter have a waste function. not cartridge or DE, and cartridge is the most popular out here in the west.
Also, If you give this advice, and then the pump sucks in air from the skimmer and burns up the pump, that would be bad.

My de had a waste function. In fact it was code to have waste.
 
also, is it plaster, pebble, vinyl?
Plaster, redone in 2016 I believe (previous owners). Last time pool water was drained too in all likelihood.
My instructions above should apply then.

You can even wash the sides and bottom if you want, but you must shop vac out all the dirt
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
Only sand filter have a waste function. not cartridge or DE, and cartridge is the most popular out here in the west.
Also, If you give this advice, and then the pump sucks in air from the skimmer and burns up the pump, that would be bad.

My de had a waste function. In fact it was code to have waste.
Interesting. Not backwash? But straight to waste. 👍
 
does. Alot more valves. and things to goof up.

If you are a novice, I would go with my advice. be sure that pump will not turn back on while draining though, even if you have to throw the breaker.
I’m capable and do all the maintenance on it (clean and/or replace cartridge filters, acid clean the salt cell, etc etc) but don’t want to do any true damage Your method makes sense and looks easy.

On a side note what do you know of the reverse osmosis companies out there. I’m thinking of doing that as an option instead….
It's fine, but expensive
 
also, is it plaster, pebble, vinyl?
Plaster, redone in 2016 I believe (previous owners). Last time pool water was drained too in all likelihood.
My instructions above should apply then.

You can even wash the sides and bottom if you want, but you must shop vac out all the dirt
Probably no need to buy a secondary pump. You should be able to use your pool pump and redirect it to waste, probably using the backwash valve. If you want to post pics of your setup I'd be happy to give you specifics.
Only sand filter have a waste function. not cartridge or DE, and cartridge is the most popular out here in the west.
Also, If you give this advice, and then the pump sucks in air from the skimmer and burns up the pump, that would be bad.

My de had a waste function. In fact it was code to have waste.
Interesting. Not backwash? But straight to waste. 👍
Yes, we had to discharge to the WW. If draining by hose to street into storm sewer it was a potential fine of up to $800.
 
Locally, we have some services that will come over and do a reverse osmosis filtering of the pool water and reduce calcium and CYA. If your plaster is chipping you probably need to replaster the pool.
Here is a representative RO service out of Las Vegas but there is probably one near you.
 
Locally, we have some services that will come over and do a reverse osmosis filtering of the pool water and reduce calcium and CYA. If your plaster is chipping you probably need to replaster the pool.
Here is a representative RO service out of Las Vegas but there is probably one near you.
Thanks. I mentioned RO upstream and it’s definitely something we’re considering. Pool was redone in ‘16/17 so it’s in good shape. Do you have any personal experience with RO?
 
Locally, we have some services that will come over and do a reverse osmosis filtering of the pool water and reduce calcium and CYA. If your plaster is chipping you probably need to replaster the pool.
Here is a representative RO service out of Las Vegas but there is probably one near you.
Thanks. I mentioned RO upstream and it’s definitely something we’re considering. Pool was redone in ‘16/17 so it’s in good shape. Do you have any personal experience with RO?
Sorry for missing previous reference to RO. I haven't done RO, but several in our neighborhood have. I believe it was about $400 three years ago. Here is one service in CA that "starts at $650":
We drained ours about 3 years ago to reduce high CYA from previous owners. I use liquid chlorine daily to minimize CYA. Use chlorine tabs only when on vacation. Calcium is stable.
 
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i’ve been exploring construction of a pool in italy……prelim stages, but they mentioned salt vs chemicals. what is the prevailing thoughts nowadays? thx
 
i’ve been exploring construction of a pool in italy……prelim stages, but they mentioned salt vs chemicals. what is the prevailing thoughts nowadays? thx
Current trend is salt water but it can wreck havoc with some pool tiles/equipment over time. You still need to use other chemicals (for pH, alkalinity, etc). An inline chlorinator just converts the salt to chlorine. Check out Troublefreepool.com for lots of good info.
 
i’ve been exploring construction of a pool in italy……prelim stages, but they mentioned salt vs chemicals. what is the prevailing thoughts nowadays? thx
Salt can hurt the kool deck /travertine. you also need to replace the salt chlorinator every 5 years or so ($1000)

Im a pool guy. when my salt cell died, I moved to chlorine pucks.

If I were building a pool, I would have them put in a "in deck chlorinator" so, instead of having a bobber floating around, you put the tabs into a built in thing and it chlorinates the pool. its a great thing.
 
Pool guys.......

If you live in an area with alot of dirt/dust. buy this


its amazing and gets most of the dirt before it hits the filter. you just open a valve once a week to clean it. like 30 seconds. its the best pool invention in years.

you can look at other brands, they are all the same, should be about $300. search "pool cyclone" just make sure you buy 2 inch coupling version. which most are.
 
I’ve done it a couple of times in Phoenix. If you’re in So Cal where it’s warm, it’s best to do it in winter. I needed to rent a small pump; backwash worked for part of the water, but at some point the intake was above the water level, so the pool pump won’t work. I rented a submersible pump and it gets out all the water, and was $20 for the weekend. Take full advantage of cleaning the pool when it’s empty. I power wash and scrub tile, and then pump out the dirty water. Don’t leave it empty too long - I did it on a weekend. Depending on the ph and other qualities of your city water, you should consider using a filter that you can attach to your hose when filling up the pool. Once it’s full, bring a sample to a pool store that tests water and they‘ll sell you the chemicals you need.
 
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@KGB as this thread was bumped.…. Thanks for your advice upstream. Followed those steps and it worked like a charm. Prior to the water change we were fighting calcium flakes like crazy. Haven't seen a flake since.
 
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Imo. If your wife wants a "salt water pool"

Throw 400 lbs in. That usually what the systems needs. Average pool size.

And let her know it's converted
 

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