Poorly Run Cities and Attributes They Have in Common (1 Viewer)

[TripItUp]

Let's try this again.

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

My opinion is that there is a correlation between poorly run cities (and states) and the Democratic party running them.

 

[Joe Summer]

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[popeye]

Need to define what is considered a poorly run city/state first.

 

[The General]

The vast majority of “best cities” have Democratic leadership. Seems to go against your fascinating theory.

 

[moleculo]

Need to fine what is considered a poorly run city/state first.

Also the opposite: what are some equivalent cities that are run well?

 

[Juxtatarot]

Let’s say Republicans were voted into power in Baltimore or Detroit.  What would they do to fix the problems?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

Sounds good, let’s do it.  I’m my view a state is poorly run if people living there lack basic social services like access to health care.

 

[The Gator]

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

Sounds good, let’s do it.  I’m my view a state is poorly run if people living there lack basic social services like access to health care.

 

[Nugget]

Let's try this again.

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

My opinion is that there is a correlation between poorly run cities and states and the Democratic party running them.

How many large cities have Republicans running them?  

 

[JIslander]

Let's try this again.

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

My opinion is that there is a correlation between poorly run cities and states and the Democratic party running them.

How many of these “poorly run” cities have you spent any time in?

 

[whoknew]

Let's try this again.

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

My opinion is that there is a correlation between poorly run cities and states and the Democratic party running them.

Do you think the Democratic administrations in those cities are the cause of why they are poorly run? If so, what specifically is run poorly?

 

[Thunderlips]

Aren't there are a lot of states under the constant yoke of Republican ideology in which quality of life issues are significantly lower than their Democratic counterparts?

 

[johnnycakes]

Let's try this again.

I'd like to have a discussion about poorly run cities/states and what makes them poorly run.

My opinion is that there is a correlation between poorly run cities and states and the Democratic party running them.

Here's a listing of 150 American cities, ranked from best-run to worst-run.  The article details exactly how the measurements were made.  I went to the trouble of looking up the mayor of the 10 best and 10 worst cities to see what I could see.  

After going through this exercise, about the only thing I can conclude is that cities tend to elect Democrats.  

10 best

1 Nampa, ID (Mayor Debbie Kling, party affiliation unknown)

2 Boise, ID (Mayor Lauren McLean, Democrat)

3 Provo, UT (Mayor Michelle Kaufusi, Republican)

4 Las Cruces, NM (Mayor Ken Miyagishima, Democrat)

5 Durham, NC (Mayor Steve Schewel, Democrat)

6 Lexington-Fayette, KY (Mayor Linda Gorton, Democrat)

7 Missoula, MT (John Engen, Democrat)

8 Fort Wayne, IN  (Tom Henry, Mayor, Democrat)

9 Virginia Beach, VA (Bobby Dyer, Mayor, Republican)

10 Nashua, NH (Jim Donchess, party affiliation unknown)

10 worst

141 Flint, MI (Sheldon Neeley, Democrat)

142 Chicago, IL (Lori Lightfoot, Democrat)

143 Detroit, MI (MIke Duggan, Democrat)

144 Oakland, CA (Libby Schaaf, Democrat)

145 Hartford, CT (Luke Bronin, Democrat)

146 New York, NY (Bill de Blasio, Democrat)

147 Chattanooga, TN (Andy Berke, Democrat)

148 Gulfport, MS (Billy Hewes, Republican)

149 San Francisco, CA (London Breed, Democrat)

150 Washington, DC (Muriel Bowser, Democrat)

 

[joffer]

yeah Austin sucks.  Don’t come here.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

High rate of people living in poverty is probably the biggest factor that causes a city problems.

 

[The General]

Here's a listing of 150 American cities, ranked from best-run to worst-run.  The article details exactly how the measurements were made.  I went to the trouble of looking up the mayor of the 10 best and 10 worst cities to see what I could see.  

After going through this exercise, about the only thing I can conclude is that cities tend to elect Democrats.  

10 best

1 Nampa, ID (Mayor Debbie Kling, party affiliation unknown)

2 Boise, ID (Mayor Lauren McLean, Democrat)

3 Provo, UT (Mayor Michelle Kaufusi, Republican)

4 Las Cruces, NM (Mayor Ken Miyagishima, Democrat)

5 Durham, NC (Mayor Steve Schewel, Democrat)

6 Lexington-Fayette, KY (Mayor Linda Gorton, Democrat)

7 Missoula, MT (John Engen, Democrat)

8 Fort Wayne, IN  (Tom Henry, Mayor, Democrat)

9 Virginia Beach, VA (Bobby Dyer, Mayor, Republican)

10 Nashua, NH (Jim Donchess, party affiliation unknown)

10 worst

141 Flint, MI (Sheldon Neeley, Democrat)

142 Chicago, IL (Lori Lightfoot, Democrat)

143 Detroit, MI (MIke Duggan, Democrat)

144 Oakland, CA (Libby Schaaf, Democrat)

145 Hartford, CT (Luke Bronin, Democrat)

146 New York, NY (Bill de Blasio, Democrat)

147 Chattanooga, TN (Andy Berke, Democrat)

148 Gulfport, MS (Billy Hewes, Republican)

149 San Francisco, CA (London Breed, Democrat)

150 Washington, DC (Muriel Bowser, Democrat)

I’m sure Nampa Idaho is lovely and all but I’m taking DC and SF over it.

 

[gianmarco]

You also said "states". So let's go there instead.

Here's a list of state rankings

Here's the 10 worst states to live in:

Louisiana

Mississippi

New Mexico

West Virginia

Alabama

Arkansas

Alaska

Oklahoma

South Carolina

Kentucky

9/10 of those states have voted Republican since 2000.

 

[gianmarco]

On the flip side, here's the 10 best states to live in:

1. Massachusetts

2. Colorado

3. New Jersey

4. Hawaii

5. Connecticut

6. Minnesota

7. Maryland

8. New Hampshire

9. Washington

10. Virginia

10/10 of those states have been Democratic states since 2008 (and most far longer than that)

This is actually an eye opening discussion!

 

[The General]

You also said "states". So let's go there instead.

Here's a list of state rankings

Here's the 10 worst states to live in:

Louisiana

Mississippi

New Mexico

West Virginia

Alabama

Arkansas

Alaska

Oklahoma

South Carolina

Kentucky

9/10 of those states have voted Republican since 2000.

That one state is really being let down by those Democrats. 

 

[TripItUp]

yeah Austin sucks.  Don’t come here.

I hear everybody already has..."the next Los Angeles"...I think I've read that 10 times in the past month.

 

[KiddLattimer]

I mean it's probably that a city - especially a large one - is just really difficult to run well no matter who is in charge

 

[Boston]

Corrupt politicians and money being wasted.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

As of August 2020, the partisan breakdown of the mayors of the 100 largest U.S. cities was 64 Democrats, 28 Republicans, three independents, and four nonpartisans.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

San Diego is the largest city with a republican mayor

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_current_mayors_of_the_top_100_cities_in_the_United_States#List_of_mayors

 

[TripItUp]

San Diego is the largest city with a republican mayor

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_current_mayors_of_the_top_100_cities_in_the_United_States#List_of_mayors

one of the reasons we live in SD

 

[lazyike]

San Diego is the largest city with a republican mayor

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_current_mayors_of_the_top_100_cities_in_the_United_States#List_of_mayors

Your San Diego mayor refused to endorse Trump in 2016......in other words Trumpers would consider him a RINO or a liberal. 

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Your San Diego mayor refused to endorse Trump in 2016......in other words Trumpers would consider him a RINO or a liberal. 

My mayor?

 

[lazyike]

My mayor?

TripItUp’s mayor. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[The Gator]

So, to recap, things in common:

1.  A lot of people.

 

[tommyGunZ]

one of the reasons we live in SD

Is it your opinion that the City of San Diego is an example of a well run City?

 

[the moops]

Is it your opinion that the City of San Diego is an example of a well run City?

And the Republican mayor is pro choice, supports a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, supports same sex marriage, has called for civil rights act to include sexual orientation and gender identity, and is an advocate for having the city use 100% renewable energy within 15 years

 

[TripItUp]

Is it your opinion that the City of San Diego is an example of a well run City?

More well run than Los Angeles and San Francisco...and it's not particularly close. 

 

[dkp993]

one of the reasons we live in SD

Born and raised in SD.  Have lived here 40 of my 45 yrs.  It’s been both D and R in that time. I can tell no difference.  
The sun still shines and the people are still great.  

 

[TripItUp]

Born and raised in SD.  Have lived here 40 of my 45 yrs.  It’s been both D and R in that time. I can tell no difference.  
The sun still shines and the people are still great.  

Great city.  No arguments here.  (Sans exorbitant state taxes)

 

[Red Hot Tamales]

My mayor?

I think he meant may're.

 

[The General]

SD is great. Lived in Encinitas in the 90’s for 6 years. Have been to SD prolly 5 times in past few years. Tons of homeless. Felt like it’s in a bit of a time warp. Not a bad thing just an observation. Typical problems of a bigger city.

 

[tommyGunZ]

SD is great. Lived in Encinitas in the 90’s for 6 years. Have been to SD prolly 5 times in past few years. Tons of homeless. Felt like it’s in a bit of a time warp. Not a bad thing just an observation. Typical problems of a bigger city.

Exactly. I moved here and will never leave, but I’ve never heard people talking about how well run the City is.   

 

[SoBeDad]

Trump clearly agrees and supports a helpful solution, letting Democratic cities rot. I thought he knew how to fix Chicago in a New York minute.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-retweets-supporters-message-calling-for-democrat-led-cities-to-be-abandoned-let-them-rot/amp/

 

[Juxtatarot]

Trump clearly agrees and supports a helpful solution, letting Democratic cities rot. I thought he knew how to fix Chicago in a New York minute.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-retweets-supporters-message-calling-for-democrat-led-cities-to-be-abandoned-let-them-rot/amp/

Trump never ceases to disappoint.

 

[kface]

I'm surprised this thread is allowed to exist

Tulsa is a republican city and has consistently had one of the highest violent crimes rates in the country.  let's talk about that.  Or how about Oklahoma City?  Or Omaha?  Or Bakersfield?  All terrible cesspool of cities that should be abandoned and left to rot (to use our president's words).

 

[Zow]

I'm surprised this thread is allowed to exist

Tulsa is a republican city and has consistently had one of the highest violent crimes rates in the country.  let's talk about that.  Or how about Oklahoma City?  Or Omaha?  Or Bakersfield?  All terrible cesspool of cities that should be abandoned and left to rot (to use our president's words).

To the OP's credit, the initial post isn't nearly as blatantly argumentative as his initial thread that Joe shut down. 

 

[whoknew]

To the OP's credit, the initial post isn't nearly as blatantly argumentative as his initial thread that Joe shut down. 

But even in this thread, the OP posted  a controversial opinion and then hasn't been back to support that opinion when questioned about it.

 

[joffer]

But even in this thread, the OP posted  a controversial opinion and then hasn't been back to support that opinion when questioned about it.

rinse and repeat in a new thread next week.

 

[Boston]

Pretty powerful political ad from Baltimore:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/17/kimberly-klacik-baltimore-democratic-party-black-voters/

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

I'm surprised this thread is allowed to exist

Tulsa is a republican city and has consistently had one of the highest violent crimes rates in the country.  let's talk about that.  Or how about Oklahoma City?  Or Omaha?  Or Bakersfield?  All terrible cesspool of cities that should be abandoned and left to rot (to use our president's words).

You son of a...

 

[Nugget]

one of the reasons we live in SD

Kevin Faulconer would be a democrat if he was in Kansas.  Sounds like a good guy and that he is doing a decent job.

 

[Herb]

Exactly. I moved here and will never leave, but I’ve never heard people talking about how well run the City is.   

I lived there for several years in the aughts. Never heard anyone anywhere talk about local politics, except where it concerned the Chargers or Padres. When it's sunny and temperate and full of things to do and beautiful people... who really GAF? I would still live there but I wanted to buy a house and didn't want to spend half a mill for a dump in Santee.

 

[Boston]

Can't make something like this up:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chirlane-mccray-enjoys-2m-staff-of-14-amid-nyc-budget-crisis

 

[whoknew]

Can't make something like this up:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chirlane-mccray-enjoys-2m-staff-of-14-amid-nyc-budget-crisis

Sounds like corruption. They should investigate. Shine light on that ####.

 

[matuski]

On the flip side, here's the 10 best states to live in:

1. Massachusetts

2. Colorado

3. New Jersey

4. Hawaii

5. Connecticut

6. Minnesota

7. Maryland

8. New Hampshire

9. Washington

10. Virginia

10/10 of those states have been Democratic states since 2008 (and most far longer than that)

This is actually an eye opening discussion!

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