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Saw an interview with one of the "leaders" of this union where they referenced how longshoremen were considered essential during COVID. As a result, many of them got sick and lost their lives. So now they deserve to be paid more for their essential work.
i’ll find some public links later today, I happen to vanpool with one of our cyber protection guys who has deployed on these missions. they are not classified and open source or i wouldn’t be talking about it here. 2 months ago it was an alaskan bound ship, seattle and la. the crane was jacksonville
This isn't what happened, though. In California at least, fast food workers didn't "demand" $20/hour, it was legislation implemented by the government. More important, though, post-legislation there are now more fast food workers than ever in California.
And 15 dollar "value" meals.
Yes, unfortunately. Shortages and "supply chain issue" signs at your local grocery store are coming back.
Yes. Fast food workers in CA did "demand" higher wages. The legislation was implemented by the gov't in direct response to union pressure.
Maybe it gets let go until its natural conclusion. Looks like it right now.
Yea I didn’t think his post was true but also didn’t want to bother researching it.
I was considered an essential worker during COVID also. I worked for Frito Lay. Grocery stores were some of the most crowded places at that time. I said the heck with it and retired. Nobody there is getting paid more, then or now.
It's going to be a game of chicken for the next month...how soon the disruptions affect consumers (e.g. perishables) vs. the pressures of certain other unmentionable factors.
This in particular seems like a tremendous success. More jobs, higher-paying jobs, businesses responding to consumer demand.
Fair enough. I was more responding to "demand" as in "went on strike".
Yeah, instead of eliminating jobs in the fast food industry, it seems that automation has shifted what workers are doing. With some good results.
Apparently all the retailers were aware of this pending strike and many of them got ahead of the curve. The hope is they planned for the shutdown and the supply chain won't sustain a massive hit unless this drags on for an extended period.
All depends on your perspective. As a fast food worker, big success. As a consumer, not so much. Even as a consumer, depends on your circumstances. I'm personally doing ok so I don't mind paying more so others can have a better life.
The typical costco shopper already has 80 rolls in the basement or is that just me?
I'd have to disagree with this, too. At least so far, consumers as a whole have responded by demanding more. Unless one is arguing that fast food is a Giffen good, it seems like consumers, as a group, have voiced their approval.
My mom was preparing for the pandemic since 1960 and by howdy did we all get load of told ya so'oes. And yes, bring on the strike, mom still has enough tp to wipe an army.
Agreed that many retailers bolstered their inventory months in advance. However, events such as Hurricane Helene will compound the difficulties quicker than most people think.
I went an hour ago. No TP in sight and I heard an employee tell a customer there was a run on it and to try again first thing in the morning. It was a zoo in there, it was lunch time but still, crazy busy.
Did they have a "one 80 pack per customer" sign up yet?
Didn't see one.
Of course it is. Social media fed.
I was wondering about this ...
They still had bidets?
Wife went to a different Costco (coincidence) and said they also had none. And our daughter lives in another state and a friend told her there was a "crier" outside of Sam's yelling "no toilet paper!"
Bidet for the win!
No wonder its so expensive
Too many smart and energetic people only want to push bits around and not actually make physical things. I get it. If you're young and smart, you can make more money and have a better life if you can make AI manipulate images and video instead of designing cranes that aren't reliant on Chinese engineering.
Not that I know of. Amazon!They still had bidets?
Wife went to a different Costco (coincidence) and said they also had none. And our daughter lives in another state and a friend told her there was a "crier" outside of Sam's yelling "no toilet paper!"
Bidet for the win!
You poop in the shower? Ewww!
I've been told they game the overtime system, so they aren't actually working nearly the hours logged.
I strongly agree. In the interest of criticizing my own "tribe" a bit, I think you can toss in there that we steer an awful lot of intellectual firepower into figuring out how to accurately price esoteric financial derivatives, and maybe those skills could be put to better use elsewhere.
Accurate pricing of financial derivatives such as asset-backed securities is enabling solar developers to both free up and lower their cost of capital, thereby spurring accelerated deployment of solar to decarbonize the U.S. electric grid.
I'm not saying that finance is bad. I'm just saying that the US is probably over-invested in that area.
I'm more a fan of people choosing their own career path
You should look at Britain. They have hollowed out their industrial base and now so much of their tax revenue comes from finance it's crazy.
Just making a general observation, not calling for the forcible reorganization of the labor force. I'm an economist. I have nothing against finance. It would maybe just be nice if a few people on the margin had chosen a different path, and I'm increasingly thinking about how we might incentivize that sort of thing without being heavy-handed or even nudge-y about it.
I think most of us white collar folks can relate
The system is perverse. All the money flows to venture capital instead of infrastructure and physical goods. There's so much money in flipping bits and coming up with the new Viagra that the brains and smart labor are going there.
Yeah, most people don’t work 100% of the time. But these guys do stuff like have their buddies cover while they sleep for several hours, during “overtime”. And the guys with seniority poach many of the extra hours.
Oh i'm sure. I mean that's what a lot of us would do if we could get away with it. Its well documented on this board how little people work at their white collar jobs. But regardless, its not like they're making $200k for working a 40 hour week which is how a lot of these posts above read to me. Sleeping or not, they have to be at the job for 100 hours per week. Certainly not a job I'd want.
I took an early retirement last winter after 50-60 weeks since the pandemic being paid a 40 hour salary but had hourly employees kill it with OT . One went over 200k working every bit of OT 6-7 days a week. Half my office went over 100k delivering mail but it’ forced OT etc. The money is great but there is a definite work/home imbalance. Some people see the $$ total and get jealous but it’s blood money with all the time spent at work
But do you use a washcloth?
I’m very familiar with how FL pays the drivers. They are making less now because of the price and the economy. That market has really changed in the Chicago area.
