Portis Hurt (1 Viewer)

[Bankerguy]

More to follow

 

[dickey moe]

NBC reporting Portis sustained a left shoulder injury after making the tackle after the Brunell thrown interception. He's been taken in for X-rays and is done for the day.

Edit: it was NBC

 

[Blackjacks]

left shoulder was reported.

 

[a_rackowski]

Betts backup?

 

[gocats]

 

[CA_7]

Betts backup?

Yes and IMO one of the better handcuffs to have. Al Saunders has already said how impressed he is with Ladell and wants to get him more involved. For keeper leaegues, Betts is a FA in 07.

 

[Kiddnets]

WOW - huge news for drafts right around the corner - keep the updates coming

I know its complete speculation but shoulder injuries (separated shoulders) can be long term correct?

 

[CA_7]

WOW - huge news for drafts right around the corner - keep the updates comingI know its complete speculation but shoulder injuries (separated shoulders) can be long term correct?

I think it depends on the degree. I would be more worried about a collarbone.

 

[Spiderman]

WOW - huge news for drafts right around the corner - keep the updates comingI know its complete speculation but shoulder injuries (separated shoulders) can be long term correct?

I'm just speculating, but I don't think it was anything that serious...I think the XRays will be pre-cautionary, and it will be just a bruise or something along those lines...again, though, just my opinion.

 

[secretid]

I just told a buddy in my league about it (he has the 5th pick). In exchange for the news I told him he couldn't take Betts.

Am I helpful or a jerk?

 

[Bankerguy]

I suspect nothing too major. However, if he is held out for a couple of weeks, it may hurt his conditioning.

I'll give Portis credit, he made a hell of a tackle on the play (A Brunell int)

 

[Tat]

Like I said in the game thread,

I would say he either had a stinger from making that tackle, a separated shoulder or something worse in the forearm or wrist.

 

[Blackjacks]

I don't think it was seperated. It didn't look like he had it hanging down. Usually you can tell a broken collerbone or a seperated shoulder due to a guy not being able to walk with both shoulders parrellel to each other and Portis walked away normal in those regards. I think and I hope it was just a stinger.

 

[kylechoffman]

negative rays - off to get an mri per andrea kramer

 

[Blackjacks]

negatives are okay

time to in celebration

 

[Justloveit]

Was Portis cradling his injured arm with his other arm? If not then we can pretty much rule out separated shoulder, broken collar bone, broken forearm.

 

[doomsdaydoc]

at this point, all we can do is wait

 

[Biabreakable]

:sweatingbullets:

 

[joffer]

Was Portis cradling his injured arm with his other arm? If not then we can pretty much rule out separated shoulder, broken collar bone, broken forearm.

didn't look like it, i didn't think he was in too much pain walking off. but you couldn't really tell from from the back.

 

[Bankerguy]

Even as a Cowboys fan, I really hope he is okay. Hate seeing any good players being hurt.

 

[doomsdaydoc]

xrays were negative, MRI is scheduled. I imagine that would eliminate shoulder separation and it clearly eliminates broken collar bone- now I guess they are checking the rotator cuff

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Didn't Terrell Davis injure his knee after a turnover trying to make a tackle also?

 

[Punchie]

sublex separation as per Andrea

 

[ffweasel]

Seperated and went back in. Ouch.

 

[wannabee]

separated shoulder reported on tv

 

[coolnerd]

Sounds a ton like the Cedric Benson injury.

 

[CrossEyed]

Prognosis?

 

[gocats]

you think he'll be alright?

 

[Wheelhouse]

Didn't Terrell Davis injure his knee after a turnover trying to make a tackle also?

Yes, it was against the Jets - he made a tackle or attempted a tackle on a turnover. He ran all the way down the field to make the play and tore his ACL as a result. I know this, because this was the only season I had Terrell.

 

[JZilla]

This happened literally the instant that I was drafting him in an 8:15 live draft. Of course I didn't have the game on because the kids were watching a movie. So of course I have no Betts and I will surely lose on him when waivers start. Not that it would matter, Betts is no Portis, another $50 down the tube most likely.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So what does this mean in regards to a seperated shoulder, any time missed? I imagine he'll sit out the rest of the preseason either way but what about week 1?

 

[Slinger]

My guess from everything that I've read is he'll be ready come Week 1.

 

[Rounders]

For those who haven't drafted yet, but where planning on taking him, does this change his draft value for you?

I have the 1.4 and was set on Portis, but now I have a week to debate Portis vs Barber.

Curious to see what others think?

 

[JZilla]

For those who haven't drafted yet, but where planning on taking him, does this change his draft value for you?I have the 1.4 and was set on Portis, but now I have a week to debate Portis vs Barber.Curious to see what others think?

Find out tomorrow what the MRI says, then decide.

 

[Brewtown]

The St. Louis Blues announced Wednesday that Doug Weight and Barret Jackman are each expected to be out 1-2 weeks.

The two stars are now doubtful for St. Louis' regular-season opener next Wednesday at Detroit.

According to a report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Weight "sublexed" his left shoulder during the team's morning skate, while Jackman suffered a slight separation of his left shoulder on a hard hit in Tuesday's 3-1 preseason loss to the Dallas Stars.

The newspaper also reported that Weight had an MRI on Tuesday. It showed no damage, but swelling in the rotator cuff.

 

[Keys Myaths]

For those who haven't drafted yet, but where planning on taking him, does this change his draft value for you?I have the 1.4 and was set on Portis, but now I have a week to debate Portis vs Barber.Curious to see what others think?

Find out tomorrow what the MRI says, then decide.

If the MRI is negative, you still go with Portis, no doubt.

 

[CA_7]

It is going to depend upon the degree of damage to the ligaments

Found this:

What is a Separated Shoulder?

In-depth analysis from the doctors the Giants trust.

- If you follow football closely, it is inevitable that you will hear of a player missing a game because of a separated shoulder. What does having a separated shoulder mean? Obviously, it does not mean that the player's shoulder has been removed from his or her body.

A separated shoulder commonly occurs from a direct blow to the shoulder. Most often the player falls onto his shoulder with his arm at his side. Falling in this manner transfers the majority of the energy of the fall to the acromioclavicular joint (a/c joint), which is the site of a shoulder separation. The acromioclavicular joint is located in the front of the shoulder where the acromion (the shoulder blade) and the clavicle (the collarbone) come together. The acromion and clavicle are separated by a piece of cartilage similar to that of the meniscus in the knee. A pair of very strong ligaments stabilizes the a/c joint. These ligaments are the structures that are injured when an a/c separates. Their purpose is to anchor the collarbone to the shoulder. When these ligaments are injured the collarbone migrates toward the neck, creating a separation of the acromion from the clavicle or an a/c separation.

A shoulder separation is usually seen as a painful bump in the front of a player's shoulder in the area of the a/c joint. There are varying severities of this injury, depending upon the amount of injury sustained to the ligaments. The greater the ligament damage, the greater the separation of the joint. Often, minor injuries to the a/c joint are treated with rest and physical therapy. Players with minor a/c separations usually return to play quickly once their pain has subsided. It is not uncommon for these players to have a painless bump over their a/c joint for the remainder of their career. Major injuries to the a/c joint with dramatic separation may be more difficult to treat. Some players with this type of shoulder separation require reconstruction of the ligaments that hold the clavicle in place in order to prevent chronic pain and deformity of the a/c joint. Years after a shoulder separation, arthritis and pain may develop at the a/c joint. If this occurs, the end of the clavicle that is involved may be removed. Thanks to new surgical innovations this can be done with an arthroscope and without the need for large surgical incisions.

Shoulder separations are a common football injury. They are also a common injury in any contact sport. As with any sports related injury, if you or someone you know suspects that they have sustained a shoulder separation, please seek medical attention.

http://www.giants.com/news/special_feature...p?story_id=1488

 

[doomsdaydoc]

heard the same thing on the air- I was surprised to hear that there was a separation, but since it popped back in, it would not show up on an xray

 

[flranger]

Yep, it's a sublixation of the shoulder. Just reported. Hopefully back by the opener. No surgery projected.

 

[dickey moe]

This happened to me after a ski accident and subsequently working out at the gym a few weeks later, and all I can tell you is it hurt like hell. Hope he's healed up within a month.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This sounds terrible...might be ready for the season?

 

[Wheelhouse]

FWIW, Marc Bulger's injured shoulder last year had negative X-rays too. Then the MRI came and Bulger was diagnosed with a shoulder sprain. He was out for about 4 weeks and then hurt it again. He later decided to rest it and go on IR for the remaining few weeks of the season.

I'm just sayin...

 

[Wheelhouse]

WHAT IS A SHOULDER SUBLUXATION? per google

 

[Blackjacks]

WHAT IS A SHOULDER SUBLUXATION? per google

thanks

 

[David Yudkin]

FWIW, Marc Bulger's injured shoulder last year had negative X-rays too. Then the MRI came and Bulger was diagnosed with a shoulder sprain. He was out for about 4 weeks and then hurt it again. He later decided to rest it and go on IR for the remaining few weeks of the season.I'm just sayin...

I'm thinking that Portis would probably pass less than Bulger . . .

 

[Family Matters]

FWIW, Marc Bulger's injured shoulder last year had negative X-rays too. Then the MRI came and Bulger was diagnosed with a shoulder sprain. He was out for about 4 weeks and then hurt it again. He later decided to rest it and go on IR for the remaining few weeks of the season.

I'm just sayin...

I'm thinking that Portis would probably pass less than Bulger . . .

Well that's going to change my projections then....

 

[ravnzfan]

For those who haven't drafted yet, but where planning on taking him, does this change his draft value for you?I have the 1.4 and was set on Portis, but now I have a week to debate Portis vs Barber.Curious to see what others think?

as long as the MRI doesn't turn up anything earth shattering, you take him after the big 3 and don't look back

 

[David Yudkin]

FWIW, Marc Bulger's injured shoulder last year had negative X-rays too. Then the MRI came and Bulger was diagnosed with a shoulder sprain. He was out for about 4 weeks and then hurt it again. He later decided to rest it and go on IR for the remaining few weeks of the season.

I'm just sayin...

I'm thinking that Portis would probably pass less than Bulger . . .

Well that's going to change my projections then....

I'm certainly glad I picked Portis with my first in the FIX league draft this afternoon . . .

 

[Pantherz]

From the game thread

I'm an EMT. Most of what is being reported right now is just plain wrong.

A shoulder separation is when the ligaments collectively known as the "A/C" joint are strained or torn outright (giving us varying degrees of separation)... this joint is where the clavicle (collar bone) and scapula (shoulder blade) come together.

A dislocation is when the head of the humerus pops out of the shoulder joint. Somehow a dislocation must be "reduced" which is usually done by a medical professional putting the head of the humerous back into socket.

A subluxation is when the head of the humerus pops out of the shoulder joint - and then pops back into place without any outside assistance.

You can not pop a seperated shoulder back into place, I don't care what KFFL or any other "news service" tries to tell you. It is a completely different injury, involving a completely different part of the shoulder.

We won't know the length of time Clinton will miss until we know the degree of his separation, which will be revealed by further medical testing. A 1st degree separation is a strain of the A/C ligaments, and we could see him back very soon. A 3rd degree separation would mean a complete tear of the ligaments, and be great cause for concern to 'skins fans and those of us in the FF world. Obviously, a 2nd degree tear would be somewhere between the two.

Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.

 

[Wheelhouse]

FWIW, Marc Bulger's injured shoulder last year had negative X-rays too. Then the MRI came and Bulger was diagnosed with a shoulder sprain. He was out for about 4 weeks and then hurt it again. He later decided to rest it and go on IR for the remaining few weeks of the season.I'm just sayin...

I'm thinking that Portis would probably pass less than Bulger . . .

Yes, but he will be tackled more than Bulger...although, that could be debatable