Possible Day One Trades? (1 Viewer)

[nerangers]

I still think the Lions will trade with someone (I have them making a trade with Tampa Bay who has an extra second round pick). Came across this list of possible teams that are looking to move up or down in the first round. What Trades to you think will happen?

Teams most likely to trade on draft day

Trading Back?

1. Detroit (2nd) - It is getting tougher and tougher to picture Detroit sitting in the second spot. The Lions have added RBs, a defensive end and a right tackle this offseason so it allows them to trade out of this spot. The Lions need help in the secondary and it is not out of the question that they could move much further back in the first round if the price is right.

2. Cleveland (3rd) - It seems inconceivable that the Browns would want to trade out of a position that could offer either Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson or Joe Thomas, but from what we've heard, they really like JaMarcus Russell. The Browns are more than a single player away and they need help in several areas so they might look to add picks by moving back.

3. Washington (6th) - The Redskins need pass-rushing help and would like another WR but they might be willing to move back several spots and look for best player available if they can get a good deal.

4. Houston (8th) - The Texans' biggest immediate needs would be QB, CB, FS and WR and unless Brady Quinn is there at #8 (and if the Texans like Quinn enough to draft him), the Texans could look to add a pick by moving back and taking a FS or a WR if they move back 3 to 8 spots or WR and CB if they move back 9 spots or more.

5. Denver (21st) - The Broncos added CB Dre Bly (if he sticks around) so they don't have to reach for a CB in this spot. I could see the Broncos moving back and adding a pick or two so that they can add depth on the defensive line, at WR and/or at safety.

Trading Up?

1. Chicago (31st) - The Bears are more than likely going to trade LB Lance Briggs which might mean the Bears add an additional first-round pick. They've already traded Thomas Jones and their late 2nd for the Jets early 2nd (37th) so they have plenty of ammunition to move up in the draft and add an impact player to a team who played in the Super Bowl.

2. Arizona (5th) - If the Cardinals have a single "must-draft" need, it would be a good starting tackle. Joe Thomas is highly unlikely to be available at the 5th spot so the Cardinals may have to move up to 2nd or 3rd in order to land the big tackle. They may hate having to give up any extra picks, but with so much money invested in the skill positions, they have to find a way to get better on the offensive line.

3. Minnesota (7th) - The Vikings have some talent on the defensive side of the ball, but they don't have anyone who scares opposing defenses. Enter Calvin Johnson or Brady Quinn? Maybe. The Vikings could potentially move into the top 3 and grab Johnson or they could go after Brady Quinn as their QB of the future.

4. New England (24th and 28th) - I feel obligated to put any team with two first round picks in this category. On one hand, I think there is a good chance New England could stand pat since they do such a good job in the late portions of the first round. Still, if they package one of their first-round picks and a second or third, they could move up into the early first and get a bigger impact player to help them right away (Patrick Willis?).

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I think the easiest one is Tampa trading up to #2 with Detroit. Tampa getting its WR and Detroit still getting its OT.

 

[Blackjacks]

I think the easiest one is Tampa trading up to #2 with Detroit. Tampa getting its WR and Detroit still getting its OT.

I would think there is a very good chance that if Joe Thomas is there for Cleveland to select he will be as good as gone before Det. could pick him. Cle. hasn't had that stud left tackle since coming back to the league.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I think its quite realistic to see Tampa Bay being one of the movers on draft day but what course they take will be contingent upon whether they can nab Calvin Johnson. If the Raiders take him with pick #1, I expect the Bucs to trade down- possibly for the top DT. If the Raiders pass up on CJ, I fully expect the Bucs to move to pick #2 to acquire him. With this, the Lions would slide into slot #4 and grab Joe Thomas as well as a future consideration (2nd rounder or 3rd rounder).

If Tampa were to trade down, one of the potential partners may be Arizona. With the #4 overall, Arizona would be primed to grab Joe Thomas. Tampa would net an extra 4th round pick.

I also expect Minnesota to be moving- but up would be the direction. Gaines Adams is such an excellent all around prospect they they may be forced to move up one spot and snipe him from the Skins. This works out well for both sides because the Redskins would net themselves an extra 4th rounder; a boon to this team who has been bleeding players left and right.

Carolina might also be a team looking to move. In a strange twist of fate, St. Louis, who just acquired Carolina MLB Chris Draft, may trade down to Carolina's spot so that Carolina can acquire ILB Patrick Willis, who complete their LB corps. St. Louis will net a mid-rounder and will be poised to take then best available DT (probably Okoye) who they have pegged as a priority already. Everyone is happy.

Other circumstances include:

-- The Bengals trading up with Carolina, if it became clear that Greg Olson was going to be picked. The Panthers would then target the best available linebacker (#####, Timmons, Beason).

-- The Eagles trading up with Dallas, if it became clear that Michael Griffin was going to be picked. The Cowboys would then target the best available cornerback (Houston, Ross, Revis) and shift Anthony Henry to FS.

 

[jesseasi]

Would the Redskins want to trade the #6 pick with the Bears for Lance Briggs? And maybe get that high 2nd rounder they got from the Jets that was their original pick?

Just a thought...

 

[hutchins929]

Detroit could possibly trade down with either Cleveland or Tampa Bay. From what I hear the Browns really want Joe Thomas OT and Detroit might be able to move down one spot and get a great corner and pick up another second rounder to sure up their O-Line.

 

[Blackjacks]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

Than why would TB trade to leap frog a team who isn't taking their guy? Or are you thinking TB jumps in front of CLE so CLE could trade their pick to let's say Ariz. scenarioRussell RaidersC. Johnson TBBrady Quinn CleJoe Thomas DetArizona whoeverdifferent scenario Russell RaidersC. Johnson TbAriona trades with Cle. and pick ThomasDet ? (screwed)Cle Brady QuinnThis is why I don't think it makes since for the small additional picks they will get it nakes since for Det to move down 2 spots, If your in the top 5 and there is 1 guy you want you pick him in my opinion.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I can see HOU or MIA trading to the #6 or higher to make sure they get Quinn before it gets to MIN at #7. That would give WAS the extra pick they are looking for and still fetch a top talent they covet.

 

[Reaper]

At this point is reading up on the draft, i'd hope the Jets are ready to negotiate up OR down..

Picks 24 59 63

MOVE DOWN

The way I see it,the Jets are still a little desperate for an offensive lineman (Resigned RT Clement) and there are about 5 or six targeted for the 2nd round.. That 2nd round also has a good number of CB's that can fall as well as hybrid OLB's for a 3-4 and then the few NT's like Tank Tyler... One scenario would be if they could move out of the 1st round for 2 more 2nd rounders along with the 2 they already have and manuever around to somehow get 3 of these players in the mid 2nd.... a Guard, a CB and maybe a Hybrid OLB...

To throw names with it lets say:

Tank Tyler

Eric Wright

Ben Grubbs

Other names...

Quintin Moses

Ray Mcdonald

Blaylock

Sears

Ramirez

Spencer

Harrel

McCauley

Crowder

ETC...Where the Jets are positioned now, it seems to me like they would have to reach a little in round 1 to get ONE of these guys and then pray that maybe another falls to their late 2nd rounders.....

OR

MOVE UP.. The other side of the coin is if a Carriker or Alan Branch falls to the late teens... That would put the Jets in range to possibly trade their 25 plus a late 2nd rounder to move up to about 16 at best.

Add some solid beef to the DL and still have another late 2nd.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Would the Redskins want to trade the #6 pick with the Bears for Lance Briggs? And maybe get that high 2nd rounder they got from the Jets that was their original pick?Just a thought...

It wouldn't surprise me if the Patriots used one of their 1st round picks for Briggs. It has been speculated on sports radio here, but has not gone beyond that.Short of that, the Pats may actually move down from one of their first round picks. Patrick Willis was assumed to be high on their wish list prior to the Adalius Thomas acquisition. That doesn't mean they still don't have their eye on him, but the possibility remains he or another solid LB falls to them at 25 (Timmons, Beason, Posluszny) or they take a DB like Aaron Ross or Meriweather. Even if they stand pat (pardon pun) with these frist two picks, they are likely to go with the aforementioned players. IMO.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

Than why would TB trade to leap frog a team who isn't taking their guy? Or are you thinking TB jumps in front of CLE so CLE could trade their pick to let's say Ariz.

What you dont understand is that teams trade up to insure they get their player and also stop other teams from trading up to that spot. Its not just about who picks before you.

 

[Jedeye]

Detroit could possibly trade down with either Cleveland or Tampa Bay. From what I hear the Browns really want Joe Thomas OT and Detroit might be able to move down one spot and get a great corner and pick up another second rounder to sure up their O-Line.

I dont see anyway that Cleveland trades UP. They will prefer to trade down. They have so many needs that they'll get an impact player wherever they are picking. Just because Butchy made that mistake a fwe years back with Detroit, doesnt mean the Browns will do it again. By the way, I heard yesterday that Butch Davis has cancer. I hope for the best for him.

 

[T Man]

I actually could see AZ trading down a few spots IF Thomas were taken early. They could trade down 2-4 spots with a team who wants DL or DE and then snag Levi Brown. The only concern would be the Texans.

 

[Chunky Soup]

GB trading up to get Lynch.

 

[massraider]

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Browns talk to the Raiders about the #1 pick for Russell. Crennel has a connection with Weis, but Phil Savage has a connection with Russell, he's known him since he as a kid.

 

[sho nuff]

GB trading up to get Lynch.

Id think the opposite...if Lynch is gone they move down...I don't see Thompson moving up.

 

[gump]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

Than why would TB trade to leap frog a team who isn't taking their guy? Or are you thinking TB jumps in front of CLE so CLE could trade their pick to let's say Ariz.

What you dont understand is that teams trade up to insure they get their player and also stop other teams from trading up to that spot. Its not just about who picks before you.

I'm with Blackjacks...I don't get the "Bucs trading up" thought either.Why would the Bucs move to #2 if they don't think Detroit or Cleve are taking CJ?If Detroit doesn't want CJ, but does want someone at #4 like Thomas or Quinn, why would they trade down to someone later in the top 10 and miss out on the guy they want at #4?If the Bucs think Cleveland will trade out of #3 to someone who wants CJ...who would the Browns want later and who would they trade with where they can still get their guy?

 

[stevegamer]

Time to put Atlanta in the mix with the Schaub deal.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

Than why would TB trade to leap frog a team who isn't taking their guy? Or are you thinking TB jumps in front of CLE so CLE could trade their pick to let's say Ariz.

What you dont understand is that teams trade up to insure they get their player and also stop other teams from trading up to that spot. Its not just about who picks before you.

I'm with Blackjacks...I don't get the "Bucs trading up" thought either.Why would the Bucs move to #2 if they don't think Detroit or Cleve are taking CJ?If Detroit doesn't want CJ, but does want someone at #4 like Thomas or Quinn, why would they trade down to someone later in the top 10 and miss out on the guy they want at #4?If the Bucs think Cleveland will trade out of #3 to someone who wants CJ...who would the Browns want later and who would they trade with where they can still get their guy?

So, just when we thought it would be a silly move, here comes ATL with a trade up to the #8 and we are already hyping ATL to trade up further for CJ in the Schaub thread. Trading up for CJ would be a good defensive move for TB at this point, but with ATL rumors threatening to trade up to the #1 with Raiders, it seems like TB would need to at least trade with DET. Possibly with OAK if they really wanted him. Problem is, ATL has much more trading power at this point than TB. Could see ATL easily making the leapfrog to get CJ instead of TB. However, there is a possibility ATL could trade up and include Dunn or Norwood in the deal to draft a top RB. If they're not going for either of these (CJ or top RB) I'd wonder why they would trade from 10th pick to 8th. I think we'll know more in the next few weeks but I expect major action with these rivals fighting for the players they want.

 

[SSOG]

5. Denver (21st) - The Broncos added CB Dre Bly (if he sticks around) so they don't have to reach for a CB in this spot. I could see the Broncos moving back and adding a pick or two so that they can add depth on the defensive line, at WR and/or at safety.

Denver is much more likely, IMO, to move up than down. Mike Shanahan feels he has a very solid, deep, veteran team and that there aren't going to be many roster spots opening up, so he'd rather get a few studs than a lot of second-tier players. There's been talk of them moving all the way into the top 10 to make a play for Adrian Peterson or Gaines Adams (I sure hope they don't), as well as simply moving up in the first round to position themselves better for a stud Defensive Lineman or Safety.Then again, I wouldn't be surprised to see Denver make several moves, both upwards and downwards. Shanahan has proven again and again that he is without question the most aggressive player when it comes to trades.

 

[yellowdog]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

The way I figure it, teams rarely trade in the early 1st round for anything but QBs.

Assuming Russell goes in 1-6, MIN is very likely to take Quinn. So a team has to trade into the 5-6 range to get him. Not saying it's smart, but I could see the Fins doing this. Meaning ARI, WAS are likely to trade down. And they can both fill their needs at #9, plus pick up a third or so.

 

[Rozelle]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

 

[Jedeye]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

 

[yellowdog]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

Link

 

[Chunky Soup]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

he'll go for more than McGahee?

 

[Domination]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

You are dreaming to think that you would get a 1st for Turner. The Bears just traded TJ to the Jets and all they did was move up in the same round. SD would be lucky to get a 2nd.

 

[Domination]

The way I figure it, teams rarely trade in the early 1st round for anything but QBs.Assuming Russell goes in 1-6, MIN is very likely to take Quinn. So a team has to trade into the 5-6 range to get him. Not saying it's smart, but I could see the Fins doing this. Meaning ARI, WAS are likely to trade down. And they can both fill their needs at #9, plus pick up a third or so.

I don't understand this Miami taking a QB talk. They still have C-pep, and I would think that with all of the needs that they have, it would be better for them to fill one of them and see if C-pep can come back.

 

[phillyfan72]

I can see Philly moving up from 26. They rarely sit and wait for a player to fall to them, as Bunkley did last year. They traded up for McDougle (big mistake). I think the majority of fans want them to take a LB in the 1st, namely Willis or Poz, but I see them targeting a CB or S, like Revis or Griffin. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them trade up to draft TE Olsen. There has to be a reason they have all their core players signed for many years to come, except for LJ Smith.

 

[redman]

Trading Back?

3. Washington (6th) - The Redskins need pass-rushing help and would like another WR but they might be willing to move back several spots and look for best player available if they can get a good deal.

You're right about trading down, but they aren't looking for a WR in the first two rounds. They want defensive help at DL (maybe x2) and strong safety, and they're always interested in good CB talent that falls and is valuable. On offense they'll grab a good OL and maybe a TE for depth, but those are secondary concerns. They'd only maybe grab a WR later on on a "best player available" theory.

 

[T Man]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

You are dreaming to think that you would get a 1st for Turner. The Bears just traded TJ to the Jets and all they did was move up in the same round. SD would be lucky to get a 2nd.

The Schaub trade sets a ceiling. QBs are more valuable. Both Schaub and Turner were tendered at the same level. Turner is younger then McGahee, less wear and tear, but has proven less. So I would see the range as being somewhere between 1) 2nd this year and next and 2) a 3rd rounder this year and next.

 

[rascal]

I can also see Denver trading up if Branch, Adams, Okoye, or Anderson fall.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I can see Philly moving up from 26. They rarely sit and wait for a player to fall to them, as Bunkley did last year. They traded up for McDougle (big mistake). I think the majority of fans want them to take a LB in the 1st, namely Willis or Poz, but I see them targeting a CB or S, like Revis or Griffin. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them trade up to draft TE Olsen. There has to be a reason they have all their core players signed for many years to come, except for LJ Smith.

I've been thinking the same thing as well. I really see the Birds going after Olsen and if not a S/CB. I have serious doubts they will use a 1st on a LB.

 

[NoCheese]

Green Bay's 2nd for Michael Turner.

I look for SD to move Turner, draft day or sooner

Definately a posibility, but not for less then a 1st.

You are dreaming to think that you would get a 1st for Turner. The Bears just traded TJ to the Jets and all they did was move up in the same round. SD would be lucky to get a 2nd.

I agree that a 1st for Turner is too high, but not based on the logic that Thomas Jones only allowed the Bears to move up 20 spots or so. Michael Turner is a young, explosive RB w/ a huge upside. Thomas Jones is a solid veteran. Not even close to the same value, IMO. I DEFINITELY think the Chargers could get a mid 2nd round pick for him. Not sure I'd say they'd be "lucky" to get it. I don't think they'd have any problem getting it.

 

[Kleck.]

GB trading up to get Lynch.

Id think the opposite...if Lynch is gone they move down...I don't see Thompson moving up.

Agreed.

 

[Foosball God]

I know it's unconventional to trade within your own division, but I see Minnesota trading up with Detroit to grab their Johnson.

 

[Exile]

GB trading up to get Lynch.

Id think the opposite...if Lynch is gone they move down...I don't see Thompson moving up.

Agreed.

If this happens, they might work something with New England who reportedly likes Reggie Nelson and would probably have to get ahead of Jacksonville (#17) to get him.

 

[gump]

I belive if BQ is there at 3 the Browns are all over him.

Than why would TB trade to leap frog a team who isn't taking their guy? Or are you thinking TB jumps in front of CLE so CLE could trade their pick to let's say Ariz.

What you dont understand is that teams trade up to insure they get their player and also stop other teams from trading up to that spot. Its not just about who picks before you.

I'm with Blackjacks...I don't get the "Bucs trading up" thought either.Why would the Bucs move to #2 if they don't think Detroit or Cleve are taking CJ?If Detroit doesn't want CJ, but does want someone at #4 like Thomas or Quinn, why would they trade down to someone later in the top 10 and miss out on the guy they want at #4?If the Bucs think Cleveland will trade out of #3 to someone who wants CJ...who would the Browns want later and who would they trade with where they can still get their guy?

So, just when we thought it would be a silly move, here comes ATL with a trade up to the #8 and we are already hyping ATL to trade up further for CJ in the Schaub thread. Trading up for CJ would be a good defensive move for TB at this point, but with ATL rumors threatening to trade up to the #1 with Raiders, it seems like TB would need to at least trade with DET. Possibly with OAK if they really wanted him. Problem is, ATL has much more trading power at this point than TB. Could see ATL easily making the leapfrog to get CJ instead of TB. However, there is a possibility ATL could trade up and include Dunn or Norwood in the deal to draft a top RB. If they're not going for either of these (CJ or top RB) I'd wonder why they would trade from 10th pick to 8th. I think we'll know more in the next few weeks but I expect major action with these rivals fighting for the players they want.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the Bucs getting in a bidding war for one of the top picks. We've been short picks the last 5 years anyway, have an aging defense, and need more than one player.The Bucs would love CJ at #4 because he's the BPA...but don't need him enough to start giving away picks.

 

[Domination]

I can see Philly moving up from 26. They rarely sit and wait for a player to fall to them, as Bunkley did last year. They traded up for McDougle (big mistake). I think the majority of fans want them to take a LB in the 1st, namely Willis or Poz, but I see them targeting a CB or S, like Revis or Griffin. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them trade up to draft TE Olsen. There has to be a reason they have all their core players signed for many years to come, except for LJ Smith.

I've been thinking the same thing as well. I really see the Birds going after Olsen and if not a S/CB. I have serious doubts they will use a 1st on a LB.

i think that LJ is overrated for what he does, and it does appear that the Eagles have set it up for him to be replaced, but I can't see them moving up for a TE. I doubt they would have moved up for a WR, definitely can't see it for a TE. I would love to see a LB, but that is not their style. I would think that if they moved up it would be for secondary help, and probably safety.

 

[QUEZILLA]

FYI, I have heard rumors that Tampa won't be staying at #4. Whether it's up or down, who knows.

-Also, I think we can add Atl. to the list of possible teams moving up.

 

[Demons]

I can see Atlanta giving up the #8, plus two second round picks this year and either a first next year or two second round picks next year to get the first overall pick. Basically two firsts and two seconds, or one first and four seconds for the #1.

The only problem with that scenario is Al Davis would probably want more than the above to work a deal.

But if you are Atlanta, you would be bringing in Calvin Johnson, who will make certain fans stay in the stands, plus he has the added benefit of being able to be great without a great QB.

Any team that wants Calvin Johnson has to move up to #1, just to stop another team from doing so.

The draw for Oakland is that they can take either LaRon Landry or Okoye at #8 and go offensive line with the three second round picks. Or they could trade the three second round picks and try to get to the #9 and take both Okoye and Landry.

 

[Brewtown]

The Pack may go up and Get AP if he falls!!!!

 

[yellowdog]

I can see Atlanta giving up the #8, plus two second round picks this year and either a first next year or two second round picks next year to get the first overall pick. Basically two firsts and two seconds, or one first and four seconds for the #1.

I can't.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm sorry I missed this thread. Here's my wacko scenario for the top 12 picks:

Since trading up to the top three spots is so expensive, the teams stay put and Calvin Johnson, Gaines Adams, and Jamarcus Russell go 1, 2, 3. (Raiders cut Moss loose.)

1.Oakland - Calvin Johnson

2.Detroit - Gaines Adams

3.Cleveland - Jamarcus Russell

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Miami trades with Tampa to get Joe Thomas.

Arizona, miffed at losing out on Thomas, goes defense.

4.Miami - Thomas

5.Arizona - Anderson

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Atlanta, scared that either Minnesota or Buffalo (in a trade with either Minnesota or Washington) will take Adrian Peterson, move up to Washington’s spot.

6. Atlanta - AdrianPeterson

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- Buffalo, afraid Houston may take Marshawn Lynch, moves up to Minnesota’s spot.

- Tampa Bay wins a bidding war with Houston in a battle to get Okoye.

- Houston shores up a suspect secondary.

- San Francisco takes the same guy I've had them taking.

- Minnesota gets the position they need at a more reasonable spot.

7. Buffalo - Marshawn Lynch

8. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye

9. Washington - Alan Branch

10. Houston - Leon Hall

11. San Francisco - Adam Carriker

12. Minnesota - Dwayne Bowe

 

[Andy Dufresne]

FYI, I have heard rumors that Tampa won't be staying at #4. Whether it's up or down, who knows.-Also, I think we can add Atl. to the list of possible teams moving up.

If ATL and TB weren't in the same division, I'd say they swap picks if Joe Thomas is available at #4. Falcons get the LT they covet for their power running game and TB gets to move back to target either Quinn if he falls or Amobi Okoye.As it is, there could be a Miami/TB swap if Thomas is there.

 

[Kleck.]

GB trading up to get Lynch.

Id think the opposite...if Lynch is gone they move down...I don't see Thompson moving up.

Agreed.

If this happens, they might work something with New England who reportedly likes Reggie Nelson and would probably have to get ahead of Jacksonville (#17) to get him.

I'm all for trading down a few spots if Green Bay could pick up an additional 2nd or 3rd. I'm also a pretty big Nelson fan and wouldn't mind seeing them stay at #16 and pick him either.It would be interesting if a trade with New England did happen and they take Nelson. That would make it two years in a row that Green Bay trades down with New England and New England takes a player some feel would have been a nice pick for Green Bay (Chad Jackson 2006).

 

[T Man]

I'm sorry I missed this thread. Here's my wacko scenario for the top 12 picks:Since trading up to the top three spots is so expensive, the teams stay put and Calvin Johnson, Gaines Adams, and Jamarcus Russell go 1, 2, 3. (Raiders cut Moss loose.)1.Oakland - Calvin Johnson2.Detroit - Gaines Adams3.Cleveland - Jamarcus Russell-----------------------------------------------------------------------Miami trades with Tampa to get Joe Thomas.Arizona, miffed at losing out on Thomas, goes defense.4.Miami - Thomas5.Arizona - Anderson-----------------------------------------------------------------------Atlanta, scared that either Minnesota or Buffalo (in a trade with either Minnesota or Washington) will take Adrian Peterson, move up to Washington’s spot.6. Atlanta - AdrianPeterson------------------------------------------------------------------------ Buffalo, afraid Houston may take Marshawn Lynch, moves up to Minnesota’s spot.- Tampa Bay wins a bidding war with Houston in a battle to get Okoye.- Houston shores up a suspect secondary.- San Francisco takes the same guy I've had them taking.- Minnesota gets the position they need at a more reasonable spot.7. Buffalo - Marshawn Lynch8. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye9. Washington - Alan Branch10. Houston - Leon Hall11. San Francisco - Adam Carriker12. Minnesota - Dwayne Bowe

I don't see Lynch as a top 7 pick. Also, I don't see Quinn falling out of the top 12.Finally, I think Patrick Willis will be a top 12 pick. He was tremendous for a poor defense at Ole Miss. He ran a 4.37 as an ILB/OLB. He will be a player. HE may end up rated equally with the top tier DEs and DTs so that a team needing defense would take him. I could see Minny taking him with their pick as he should project as a good coverage LB and he plays the run tough.I see Detroit trying to sell a trade (where Quinn could be the target) making Cleveland nervous so Cleveland pays a pick to move up. THen I see Detroit letting everyone know that CJ can be had -- and sells the possibility that ATL may move up. So TB pays a pick to move up one spot.I then see Houston (with many needs) trying to recoup some picks. So with Peterson on the board, they reach a deal with Buffalo. (Kubiak thinks he is Shannahan and can make do with a RB selected later in day one.)1. Oakland -- Jamarcus.2. Cleveland -- Brady Quinn (after a trade with Det.) (Romeo gets good reviews from Weiss)3. TB -- Calvin Johnson (after a trade with Det.)4. Detroit -- Joe Thomas5. Arizona -- Adams6. Washington -- J. Anderson7. Minnesota -- P. Willis8. Atlanta-- Landry9. Miami -- Levi Brown10. Buffalo -- Adrian Peterson (after trade with Houston)11. San Fran -- Alan Branch12. Houston -- Leon Hall

 

[gump]

FYI, I have heard rumors that Tampa won't be staying at #4. Whether it's up or down, who knows.-Also, I think we can add Atl. to the list of possible teams moving up.

If ATL and TB weren't in the same division, I'd say they swap picks if Joe Thomas is available at #4. Falcons get the LT they covet for their power running game and TB gets to move back to target either Quinn if he falls or Amobi Okoye.As it is, there could be a Miami/TB swap if Thomas is there.

The Bucs love Thomas. I've heard it with my own ears from Bucs Player Eval personnel. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bucs sit back, watch Atlanta sell the farm to get CJ, then pounce on the guy they wanted just as much.

 

[Obie Wan]

The way I figure it, teams rarely trade in the early 1st round for anything but QBs.Assuming Russell goes in 1-6, MIN is very likely to take Quinn. So a team has to trade into the 5-6 range to get him. Not saying it's smart, but I could see the Fins doing this. Meaning ARI, WAS are likely to trade down. And they can both fill their needs at #9, plus pick up a third or so.

I don't understand this Miami taking a QB talk. They still have C-pep, and I would think that with all of the needs that they have, it would be better for them to fill one of them and see if C-pep can come back.

C-Pep is done.He can't make decisions and he can no longer run around to buy time.