possible lengthy food, supply shortages coming to the US? Latest: start hiding Sriracha (1 Viewer)

[Don't Toews Me]

Already bought 2 turkey breasts for Thanksgiving bc they were disappearing at an astounding rate. Seeing a lot of empty spaces in canned food aisle too. 

Turkey is overrated anyway. I rather eat steak on Thanksgiving. 

 

[Don't Toews Me]

I make all of my own gasoline and electricity- not sure what you rubes are doing.

Turns out the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia has an account on FBG 

 

[Osaurus]

Turkey is overrated anyway. I rather eat steak on Thanksgiving. 

Agreed, but we make an awesome habanero tangerine glaze that goes better with poultry.  

 

[Sabertooth]

Interesting that only one other person has mentioned how modern chain stores are handling their inventory.

Basic reality - Once news gets out of some kind of threat/widespread risk/incident, your local grocery store can be cleaned out in as little as 6 hours. The average American household has about three weeks of food if they were cut off from all other resources besides their homes. That's the "average". Lots of people have close to nothing stocked away and rely on eating out.

What matters?

You want to pick items that don't need to be refrigerated, are calorie dense, don't need to be cooked or need heavy preparation, has decent nutritional value, is easy to carry/store and is not expensive.

Peanut butter can stay at room temperature. It has a lot of calories per jar/per serving relatively. You don't need to cook it. You don't need anything more than a spoon to eat it. It has fat and protein and most of the cheaper brands are jammed full of sugar. It's easy to stack in boxes or backpacks or in a car or wherever you are and it's not that expensive considering it's overall flexibility.

Cans of refried beans are probably the best overall value and offer the most flexibility. If you want to simplify it for immediate movement/near usage, open a can and squeeze it into a quart Glad bag/freezer bag or some smaller ones. Then it can be flattened and put in a pack. If you need to eat it, you can spoon it out or squeeze it out.

How do a lot of people die in natural disasters in terms of secondary death? You have adult men  ( it's usually the men) who are going out and trying to find baby formula.

What should you stockpile over time?

Salt, vinegar, vodka, bleach, baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, non fat powdered milk, various nuts, honey, dry beans, dry rice, dry pasta, spices, peanut butter, cans of refried beans, cans of vegetables, water flavoring powder, lighters/matches, a decent stock of Vitamin D, multivitamins, Super B Complex, Zinc, Fish oil, magnesium and potatoes ( relatively speaking, you should always rotate in a new sack of potatoes every couple of weeks while you use the older ones).

Always save your glass jars with lids ( like spaghetti sauce jars)  Always save the lint from the filter in your dryer. Always have a wide variety of stainless steel containers.

Lots of canned items will still be edible and have caloric load value even if the nutritional value declines with time. Put it this way, eating a five year old can of refried beans and taking some multivitamins is better than starving.

In general, everyone here should have a water proof/water resistant pack with -  A full tang knife ( a simple inexpensive Morakniv with a neck sheath/lanyard would suffice) , a large ferro rod, 550 para cord, high quality duct tape, a well made multitool like a Leatherman Wave, several stainless steel water bottles, several lighters, a large tarp, a full length rain poncho, 55 gallon drum liners,  quart freezer bags ( not the cheap kind) and a couple of Sawyer water filter systems.

I have over a thousand employees, so yes, in general, I'm always concerned about their general well being. I take great pride in that I've build something my godson can carry on and can help people provide for their own children. I was functionally homeless when I graduated high school. I didn't have the safety net many of you had. No one paid for my college. No one ventured forward for my future. I slept in a truck for a while. Sometimes on the street. Sometimes on flat rooftops of some buildings.  I ate out of garbage cans sometimes. I'm also old enough to have been around people who were alive during the Great Depression. Many people in that era had to hear their children crying at night because they were so hungry. I made it out but many didn't. I have money now, more than I could spend with what's left of my life, but I still remember being cold and wet and terrified and starving.

Everyone here who has young children should have a six month stockpile of food for a true emergency.

Everything you need for your children if things go bad in the the world around you is another issue where you will have to go out and take risks, sometimes big risks, to try to source basic necessities.  And if you die out there, who takes care of your kids? It's called the "Tenth Meal Principle"  Once people have not eaten their tenth straight meal and there is clearly hyperactive food insecurity for any future meals, the "mask" comes off. I'm talking about the "mask" people wear every single day to try to fit into society because there are systems in place to create negative repercussions if they don't. When those social restraints are lifted, then their true character comes out. And to those savages, your kids are nothing more than a commodity or cannon fodder.

Many of you operate under the premise that what you have here today will be guaranteed for you tomorrow. That generally stems from entitled Western arrogance.

There is no greater sin in this life than a man who is not prepared and not ready and willing to do what it takes to protect the people he loves when they need him the most. It's what you choose to do when your people need you the most that defines the man you are and the man you choose to be.

Peanut butter is also delicious.  

 

[Terminalxylem]

Fantastic book, and I agree in that we are significantly more vulnerable that the average person realizes. 

In the event of a legitimate deadly pandemic (which we are reasonably likely to see in our lifetimes) , I'm not sure I'm super excited about joining the hordes in bread lines... I'll hunker down at the house. 

Fairly certain the current pandemic is legit. But I doubt we'll see anything worse in the next 50 years - with modern sanitation and medical care (even with all its blemishes), we just don't suffer plagues like we used to. Although new zoonoses emerge every couple years, the only non-coronavirus infection that could fit the bill is avian flu. Fortunately, it's not adept at human-to-human transmission (yet).

IMO, tech-driven terrorism and climate catastrophes are much bigger threats to create chaos and justify the prep-talk.

 

[Dezbelief]

The problem with all GG's doom and gloom, is that if any of this really started to happen, it would be solved almost immediately by a lot of Americans stepping up and doing whatever it takes - driving trucks, etc. It's not exactly rocket science. Would there be some temporary bumps along the way? Sure. But, Jesus, settle down.

Username does not check out.

 

[Don't Toews Me]

Agreed, but we make an awesome habanero tangerine glaze that goes better with poultry.  

That sounds very tasty. Any open seats at your Thanksgiving table this year?

 

[SFBayDuck]

Most places talk about having enough to get by without assistance for 72 hours.  In Oregon, with the reasonable likelihood of a massive earthquake happening in our lifetime, the recommendation is 2 weeks as power, water, and sewer could be out for an extended period of time.  Most of us have a pantry and a fridge/freezer with enough food to scrape by for a couple of weeks.  I do have some cans of dehydrated food to supplement as well, if needed, along with propane and camp stoves.  I don't anticipate I'll ever need those, but it was pretty cheap food insurance.

I think most people don't think about water and sanitation.  Have a plan for sanitation - a two bucket system and some bags and carbon material of some sort for the #2 bucket will work.  Get one of those toilet seats that snaps onto a 5 gallon bucket.  Once services pick up, there is apparently even an emergency plan in place here to collect the bags of human waste.  With water, store barrels of rain water you can treat (there's plenty of that here to gather during the winter), or keep some storage cubes of water to get you through a few weeks if the big one happens during the summer.  

 

[Dezbelief]

The problem with all GG's doom and gloom, is that if any of this really started to happen, it would be solved almost immediately by a lot of Americans stepping up and doing whatever it takes - driving trucks, etc. It's not exactly rocket science. Would there be some temporary bumps along the way? Sure. But, Jesus, settle down.

One thing I noticed after the great TP run when all the beans and rice got wiped out too, there was still peanut butter and oatmeal on the shelves. 

 

[BassNBrew]

VIDEO: The Incredible Logistics of Grocery Stores May 19, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNpk_OGEGlA

VIDEO: Truck Driver Shortage Fuels Supply Chain Issues Oct 12, 2021

TForce Freight Driver, John McKown, joins to discuss the driver shortage, technology changes, and how Covid has affected the trucking industry. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZoMQVpRJ4E

VIDEO: What If All Supermarkets Closed? Apr 3, 2020

There are roughly 40,000 retailers in the U.S. that would be classified as grocery stores. They range in size, and style, and the type of goods they provide. But, these are the places where most people in developed countries get their food. And they often get much more than they need. So what if they simply stopped operating? How would we adapt to life without the one-stop shop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQCRN5StxqE

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Every problem in this life can be distilled down, at some point, to a basic resource management problem.

I'm talking about buying an extra few bags of dry beans and 4-5 extra cans of food per week. Over time, that adds up. Everyone has a practical use for stored food, you get to a point where you rotate in new items and start eating some of the older items.

The entire logistical system under which the average grocery store gets restocked is actually quite fragile. You are relying on that it will always be there for you tomorrow. And if it breaks down, that the government  is guaranteed to save you. If you feel that way, you feel that way, I won't take that from you.

But I said this back in 2006, that the one of the best ways to understand your place in this world is to travel and see different people and different cultures, and not just "Westernized safezones" and understand how much more fortunate everyday Americans have it compared to most of the rest of the world.

Spend some time in the parts of the world that don't have clean drinking water. Spend some time in the parts of the world where a lot of their day is simply built around manually processing water ( i.e. carrying it all in buckets and boiling it) so it can actually be used safely. There are lots of places in the world where children are starving. If more people here spent time out there, they would very likely truly pause and reflect each time they had a meal.

You like most here were likely born into abundance. Even the poorest American still lives better than most of the rest of the world. This abundance is not something you are entitled to for the rest of your life. It's not something your children will be entitled to the rest of their lives. The signs are apparent that this could all go very wrong and very quickly.

Basic survival is actually a type of game. You can refuse to play. That's your right. But the game still runs forward even if you don't want to be a part of it. The reluctant are just dragged along.

I'll look at some of your links later.  

I know things suck in other parts of the world.  But why do you think we are moving towards them rather than away?  Many of the poorer countries in the Far East have made huge strides forward in the last few decades.  Our infrastructure isn't the greatest, but if covid wiped out 25% of us, there are replacements all around the world that would jump at the chance to fill in. 

I'm sure our grandparents discussed how things could wrong quickly and here we are 80 years later with nothing but progress towards an easier life.

 

[rockaction]

I'll look at some of your links later.  

I know things suck in other parts of the world.  But why do you think we are moving towards them rather than away?  Many of the poorer countries in the Far East have made huge strides forward in the last few decades.  Our infrastructure isn't the greatest, but if covid wiped out 25% of us, there are replacements all around the world that would jump at the chance to fill in. 

I'm sure our grandparents discussed how things could wrong quickly and here we are 80 years later with nothing but progress towards an easier life.

Trust in basic societal functions and organization is at a real low tide. There doesn't seem to be a commonality of bedrock principles holding things together. 

As Yeats would say "The centre cannot hold"

We're pretty divided, right on down to debating basic medical procedures that affect all of us. It's highly politicized. I'm not sure the preppers are that wrong. People are walking away from jobs needed to fill the supply chains with goods. Growers, pickers, loaders, transporters, everyone. It's not really that great right now. I missed the stagflation of the seventies, but America was in quite a lull then, too. Gas shortages, stagflation, hostages in Iran. And then the mood brightened and change was sought. 

Hopefully we seek change from the past five years of mistrust and rancor towards each other and rebuild our trust in our organizations and in our institutions. I hope they earn it. 

 

[ChiefD]

Trust in basic societal functions and organization is at a real low tide. There doesn't seem to be a commonality of bedrock principles holding things together. 

As Yeats would say "The centre cannot hold"

We're pretty divided, right on down to debating basic medical procedures that affect all of us. It's highly politicized. I'm not sure the preppers are that wrong. People are walking away from jobs needed to fill the supply chains with goods. Growers, pickers, loaders, transporters, everyone. It's not really that great right now. I missed the stagflation of the seventies, but America was in quite a lull then, too. Gas shortages, stagflation, hostages in Iran. And then the mood brightened and change was sought. 

Hopefully we seek change from the past five years of mistrust and rancor towards each other and rebuild our trust in our organizations and in our institutions. I hope they earn it. 

Man, I don’t know about ALL of this. If the you know what hit the fan I still believe America would come together pretty quickly and pretty united.

 

[GordonGekko]

The problem with all GG's doom and gloom, is that if any of this really started to happen, it would be solved almost immediately by a lot of Americans stepping up and doing whatever it takes - driving trucks, etc. It's not exactly rocket science. Would there be some temporary bumps along the way? Sure. But, Jesus, settle down.

Old Man Gekko - Take extreme ownership and be a problem solver aka "No One Is Coming To Save You, So Be Relentless And Passionate About Saving Yourself"

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BeTheMatch - Someone else will figure it out for me. We should all expect someone else to "step up" and fix this mess. I can't explain who will do this or why or how the logistical pathway would actually function in the real world aka "Pour Me Another Zima"

I didn't raise my godson to be a victim of circumstance. I didn't teach him to wait for someone else to come save him. I didn't invest a large portion of my life into developing him to immediately become new cannon fodder.

What I did school him on is the reality that every man has a duty and an obligation to seize their destiny with their own two hands.

I live in a quaint little town called Manville. And we don't serve Zima there.

 

[rockaction]

Man, I don’t know about ALL of this. If the you know what hit the fan I still believe America would come together pretty quickly and pretty united.

One would hope so. But we saw that people were able to play politics with a blameless virus. If anything, we should have been united against it and come together. Instead, we have rancor and division and policy arguments over things that really shouldn't be argued. It's been eye-opening.

I hope that what you're saying is true. I want to believe that. 

 

[culdeus]

Turkey is overrated anyway. I rather eat steak on Thanksgiving. 

This.  But I usually go for goose or duck.  

 

[facook]

I recommend everyone read One Second After (it's actually set in your back yard I believe). It's a very real scenario that would quickly bring us (US) to our knees. Every time I hear about a new "infrastructure" bill I laugh. Pretty much none of it trickles down to what we need to fix and absolutely zero goes into hardening anything that needs to be.

Fantastic book, and I agree in that we are significantly more vulnerable that the average person realizes. 

In the event of a legitimate deadly pandemic (which we are reasonably likely to see in our lifetimes) , I'm not sure I'm super excited about joining the hordes in bread lines... I'll hunker down at the house. 

Guy couldn't even correct typos or have someone edit his terrible grammar.  If he'd written a newsletter I'd have respected him more.  The "novel" sucked.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I'm not quite sure "less" is the most practical solution oriented pathway versus "differently"

If every able bodied adult in America was doing regular exercise, strength training and compound movements, and supporting that with a mostly "paleo" oriented diet, more people would be healthier, more productive and would stand a better chance against COVID19, whether they are vaccinated or not.

There's nothing wrong with eating "more" as long as you exercise/training/lifestyle supports that in a positive way. People who do lots of physical training actually might eat more than the average American. The trick is they tend to optimize eating "differently"

Which goes back to my point that dry beans is actually one of the most valuable things you can have in your household and in your diet. They store well, they aren't expensive, they give you a ton of your daily macro nutrient needs, they can be simple to prepare and they can actually taste good if you cook them right. Everyone here could live off of dry beans and some vegetables made in a stew with lots of water.

The average American relies on grocery stores and part of the problem is if there are massive breakdowns in the trucking and supply chain, the areas that have local resources will simply be better off. People on both coastlines will be closer to fishing so they might be better off. People who live near large farming areas might end up better off since they will be close to some type of resource.

What can the average person do? No matter your space profile where you live, you can adjust and grow some type of "Victory Garden"  You can grow potatoes in a wooden box. Radishes and beets aren't that difficult for even a beginner. Plenty of people have orange, apple and lemon trees. Onions aren't that terribly hard to grow. What's wrong with growing your own vegetables to supplement some you get from the store? You get to go outside, do some physical work, get some sunlight, get the benefit of seeing the return on your labor, save money and you've helped your own situation.

Everyone everywhere can do something today to improve their situation if their regular food sources shut down or dry out or get vastly minimized. Too many here, not all, but way too many, don't carry carry an actual problem solving mindset.

Survival situation or not, I wholly agree people need to eat healthier and exercise, grow/catch some of their food, and learn to be more self sufficient.

But there's nothing to suggest a Paleo diet is the answer. The whole concept of mimicking dietary constraints of early man is pretty absurd, when you consider longevity wasn't exactly stellar back then.

And for some reason, paleo peeps don't condone bean eating.   

 

[fatness]

LOL at Gekko turning this into a prepper thread. 

 

[hagmania]

Turkey is overrated

Thank you for saying what needed to be said.

@belljr

 

[dino259]

Thank you for saying what needed to be said.

@belljr

Maybe we need to have sheep...

 

[beer 30]

Guy couldn't even correct typos or have someone edit his terrible grammar.  If he'd written a newsletter I'd have respected him more.  The "novel" sucked.

Thanks for the grammatical review 

 

[belljr]

Thank you for saying what needed to be said.

@belljr

You've chosen to ignore content by hagmania

 

[Grahamburn]

Yeah but how are the 400 lb individuals at Wal-Mart that I see every time I go going to sustain their lifestyle? 

Maybe this shortage alleviates some of the strain on the healthcare system. 

 

[SoBeDad]

No dry ice in Miami yesterday.  We use it for shipping biological samples in clinical drug trials. We had to scurry to find  a department with a -70 freezer for storing the sample in the meantime. I guess this is related to vaccine storage. We'll end up finally buying a -70 freezer. 

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Some of you guys haven't had turkey prepared properly. I'm just sayin'.  

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

There was a panicky post about this on Nextdoor earlier in the week too.  I have some stocked up "pantry" items but I also dipped into them a bit.  Time to shop for essentials again, or is this being overblown?

 

[beer 30]

There was a panicky post about this on Nextdoor earlier in the week too.  I have some stocked up "pantry" items but I also dipped into them a bit.  Time to shop for essentials again, or is this being overblown?

Not overblown but not a bunker down event either. Do what you're comfortable with. If topping off the pantry is it then you're ahead of most reading this thread and making fun of @[icon] and his efforts.

Oh and whatever you do, don't read One Second After, it's a grammatical mess that isn't worthy of discussion in a thread about shortages caused by outside influences.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Decent episode regarding current supply chain issues on Saagar Enjeti's podcast "The Realignment":

Christopher Mims: Inside the Supply Chain Crisis

This guy Chris Mims was writing a book on supply chain issues when the pandemic hit the fan last year so was in perfect position to slide into this analysis.  He was on a dock in Vietnam when he got a message to get out asap due to imminent travel bans.  The takeaway here is that almost all issues we are facing regarding the economy originate with the supply chain constipation and its not going to be easily fixed.  An entire worldwide supply system based on just-enough stocking practices can't easily cope with an unplanned 20% increase in demand.

 

[ghostguy123]

Man, I don’t know about ALL of this. If the you know what hit the fan I still believe America would come together pretty quickly and pretty united.

Not so sure.  Most everyone hates everyone else for one reason or another.  Grey area died  a while ago.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Not overblown but not a bunker down event either. Do what you're comfortable with. If topping off the pantry is it then you're ahead of most reading this thread and making fun of @[icon] and his efforts.

Oh and whatever you do, don't read One Second After, it's a grammatical mess that isn't worthy of discussion in a thread about shortages caused by outside influences.

yeah I’d say if there is something you can’t live without buy some extra (not literally can’t live without but let’s say your wife only likes Simply Heinz ketchup you might want to stock up or face the risk of having to get regular Heinz or god forbid Hunts)

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

yeah I’d say if there is something you can’t live without buy some extra (not literally can’t live without but let’s say your wife only likes Simply Heinz ketchup you might want to stock up or face the risk of having to get regular Heinz or god forbid Hunts)

I am from Pittsburgh.  DO NOT SPEAK OF HUNTS.

 

[Courtjester]

Not overblown but not a bunker down event either. Do what you're comfortable with. If topping off the pantry is it then you're ahead of most reading this thread and making fun of @[icon] and his efforts.

Oh and whatever you do, don't read One Second After, it's a grammatical mess that isn't worthy of discussion in a thread about shortages caused by outside influences.

That whole series of books is terrifying--especially book one and the main character dealing with his diabetic daughter. As a type one diabetic, that book hit too close to home.

But back to the point, there is no harm in being prepared. My family has always kind of lived our lives month to month and I really wasn't preparing for survival type situations. Prior to Covid hitting the mainstream news, I had heard rumblings of it and something about it just felt different and it changed my outlook on things. You can look at the Covid-19 thread and you will see in January before the you know what hit the fan, some of us were getting ready. I am so thankful we did. 

This new challenge seems to be one more of inconvenience rather than life or death. Living in Colorado, we have so many local dairies, farms and ranches--there is an abundance of food here.  I can see certain items being limited sure, but I don't see people dying in the streets over this. It just means that new (insert name) toy might not be under the tree this year---Oh, the horror!!!

However, it should serve as a wake up call for those of you who don't have a month or more of supplies on hand. GG's post may be a little heavy-handed, but it contains a lot of the basic stuff you need in case a natural/man-made event happens., You see it all the time after something bad happens, lines of people relying on/hoping for someone to help them. Do you want to be them or do you want to be the person that is ready to help themselves? 

 

[[icon]]

Man, I don’t know about ALL of this. If the you know what hit the fan I still believe America would come together pretty quickly and pretty united.

I hope so... and like to think so... but I think the odds of that are heading in the wrong direction currently. We are MUCH more divided than we were on 9/11.  

Also I think there are different types of SHTF: 

- 9/11 was horrific, but the average American's daily routine was hardly impacted. In those scenarios it's "easy" to unify and find solidarity. 

- In a true SHTF scenario (like Katrina in New Orleans, for example)... there is absolutely an influx of resources and people looking to help... but there's also a large subset of people who resort to "anything it takes" to survive... that included robbery, assault, murder, rape, etc. If there was a scenario like Katrina that impacted a large portion of the country (or God-forbid, the entire coutry)... any responder/resources would be stretched much thinner.... and violence due to panic/desperation would be much worse. 

Again... JMHO. 

 

[beer 30]

That whole series of books is terrifying--especially book one and the main character dealing with his diabetic daughter. As a type one diabetic, that book hit too close to home.

But back to the point, there is no harm in being prepared. My family has always kind of lived our lives month to month and I really wasn't preparing for survival type situations. Prior to Covid hitting the mainstream news, I had heard rumblings of it and something about it just felt different and it changed my outlook on things. You can look at the Covid-19 thread and you will see in January before the you know what hit the fan, some of us were getting ready. I am so thankful we did. 

This new challenge seems to be one more of inconvenience rather than life or death. Living in Colorado, we have so many local dairies, farms and ranches--there is an abundance of food here.  I can see certain items being limited sure, but I don't see people dying in the streets over this. It just means that new (insert name) toy might not be under the tree this year---Oh, the horror!!!

However, it should serve as a wake up call for those of you who don't have a month or more of supplies on hand. GG's post may be a little heavy-handed, but it contains a lot of the basic stuff you need in case a natural/man-made event happens., You see it all the time after something bad happens, lines of people relying on/hoping for someone to help them. Do you want to be them or do you want to be the person that is ready to help themselves? 

One of the things that really drew me into that book, aside from it being staged right up the road from where I live, was the whole drama with his daughter and how you handle that on top of everything else you have to deal with. It also opened my eyes to the fragility of our current "just in time" system. We are a nation of plenty but if you need food from the Midwest or West coast and you live in the East, you're screwed if the trucks/trains/highways go down. No questions asked, you're simply out on your own and I'd venture a good 95% are not ready for a lengthy period of time that would accompany a true SHTF situation.

That said, this is not it. As mentioned, this is inconvenient but not something you have to fill the bunker over. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, grab some of the stuff that is unique to your likes and be ready to be flexible with your choices over the next year or so while this works itself out. It will. What would worry me is if something else were to happen, a 9/11 event, another strong variant we don't have an answer for, a financial crisis, an electrical grid or two going down. That would cause me to start stacking some toilet paper in the garage.

 

[Don't Toews Me]

Some of you guys haven't had turkey prepared properly. I'm just sayin'.  

Show us the path to turkey perfection, Colonel

 

[ChiefD]

Show us the path to turkey perfection, Colonel

turkey is the fruit of the forest. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, turkey-kabobs, turkey creole, turkey gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple turkey, lemon turkey, coconut turkey, pepper turkey, turkey soup, turkey stew, turkey salad, turkey and potatoes, turkey burger, turkey sandwich. That- that's about it.

 

[stbugs]

That whole series of books is terrifying--especially book one and the main character dealing with his diabetic daughter. As a type one diabetic, that book hit too close to home.

But back to the point, there is no harm in being prepared. My family has always kind of lived our lives month to month and I really wasn't preparing for survival type situations. Prior to Covid hitting the mainstream news, I had heard rumblings of it and something about it just felt different and it changed my outlook on things. You can look at the Covid-19 thread and you will see in January before the you know what hit the fan, some of us were getting ready. I am so thankful we did. 

This new challenge seems to be one more of inconvenience rather than life or death. Living in Colorado, we have so many local dairies, farms and ranches--there is an abundance of food here.  I can see certain items being limited sure, but I don't see people dying in the streets over this. It just means that new (insert name) toy might not be under the tree this year---Oh, the horror!!!

However, it should serve as a wake up call for those of you who don't have a month or more of supplies on hand. GG's post may be a little heavy-handed, but it contains a lot of the basic stuff you need in case a natural/man-made event happens., You see it all the time after something bad happens, lines of people relying on/hoping for someone to help them. Do you want to be them or do you want to be the person that is ready to help themselves? 

I got prepared a bit early as well. I didn’t take things lightly but I definitely didn’t hoard and to be honest, Target, Publix, Harris Teeter, Lowe’s and Costco were all open and fine. I was smart about masking up, sanitized probably more than I needed to and still do and not being dumb.

I’m sure technically speaking I had enough to cover a month or so if I had to, but it wouldn’t have mattered. I think one time since last March, I got close to running out of toilet paper but I just got it on my next Costco run. That’s it.

I'm running to the grocery stores (have to hit two for a specific chocolate milk) later and I’ll probably grab a little extra but not going to go nuts and we’ll be fine. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Some of you guys haven't had turkey prepared properly. I'm just sayin'.  

Show us the path to turkey perfection, Colonel

turkey is the fruit of the forest. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, turkey-kabobs, turkey creole, turkey gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple turkey, lemon turkey, coconut turkey, pepper turkey, turkey soup, turkey stew, turkey salad, turkey and potatoes, turkey burger, turkey sandwich. That- that's about it.

It's the right thing to do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbtu9sF5Kr0

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I am from Pittsburgh.  DO NOT SPEAK OF HUNTS.

its awful.  I would probably go ketchupless than ever willingly buy it. Occasionally you go to some diner that has that plain red bottle and I can always tell if they’ve filled it with that vile goo

 

[facook]

I am from Pittsburgh.  DO NOT SPEAK OF HUNTS.

its awful.  I would probably go ketchupless than ever willingly buy it. Occasionally you go to some diner that has that plain red bottle and I can always tell if they’ve filled it with that vile goo

It is absolutely disgusting.  And yet better than Miracle Whip.

 

[Don't Toews Me]

turkey is the fruit of the forest. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, turkey-kabobs, turkey creole, turkey gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple turkey, lemon turkey, coconut turkey, pepper turkey, turkey soup, turkey stew, turkey salad, turkey and potatoes, turkey burger, turkey sandwich. That- that's about it.

Barbecue? You can throw a 20 lb behemoth right on the grill? I've never had any of these magical turkey specials. Coconut turkey sounds good. As does pepper turkey. 

This year I might just buy one of those Elon Musk flamethrowers and cook the turkey that way. Tired of baking it in the oven.

 

[BeTheMatch]

You know what's good? Turkey marinated in Zima. 

 

[fatness]

I went to Five Guys and got a burger, but they didn't put enough ketchup on it. Man these supply chain issues are killing me.

So I bought 6 months worth of dried beans.

 

[matuski]

I have a couple of those giant jellybelly jars from costco in my guest closet for times like this.

I bet whoever is typing for @GordonGekko lately is jealous they didn't think of that.  Prepping noob.

 

[stbugs]

I went to Five Guys and got a burger, but they didn't put enough ketchup on it. Man these supply chain issues are killing me.

So I bought 6 months worth of dried beans.

Next time you go, look for the red countertops. There’s usually a couple ketchup dispensers and also a bin with ketchup packets. YWIA.

Also, I don’t know if they’d technically stop you if you grab those large bags of peanuts. I think the potatoes are off limits so you have to pay for the fries but a big bag of peanuts is ok because they’re free. Again, YWIA. 

 

[beer 30]

Show us the path to turkey perfection, Colonel

Smoked Turkey

Youtube - how to smoke turkey

If you can do it this way you'll never eat turkey any other way. Hands down the best turkey ever.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Next time you go, look for the red countertops. There’s usually a couple ketchup dispensers and also a bin with ketchup packets. YWIA.

Also, I don’t know if they’d technically stop you if you grab those large bags of peanuts. I think the potatoes are off limits so you have to pay for the fries but a big bag of peanuts is ok because they’re free. Again, YWIA. 

trying this would be good shtick.  Or at least flop one on the table and tear into it.

 

[snellman]

Smoked Turkey

Youtube - how to smoke turkey

If you can do it this way you'll never eat turkey any other way. Hands down the best turkey ever.

One step further, make sure you brine the turkey first then smoke.  I am not a turkey fan, but brining makes a HUGE difference.

 

[beer 30]

One step further, make sure you brine the turkey first then smoke.  I am not a turkey fan, but brining makes a HUGE difference.

If you are using one of the recipes I listed I wouldn’t brine beforehand. The butter melts and infuses itself into the breast making it very moist and tasty. I would think you’d lose some of the benefits of brining using that method. My 

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Smoked Turkey

Youtube - how to smoke turkey

If you can do it this way you'll never eat turkey any other way. Hands down the best turkey ever.

Im going to give this a go, thanks!