Post round 1 draft, stock up/down (1 Viewer)

[FreeBaGeL]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin

Kyle Jusczcyk

Marcus Lattimore

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu

Kendall Hunter

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic

Taiwan Jones

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson.

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

 

[duaneok66]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin

Kyle Jusczcyk

Marcus Lattimore

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu

Kendall Hunter

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic

Taiwan Jones

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson.

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

excellent post.

 

[SayWhat?]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

No, a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB. There's no RB's being taken early this year because none exhibit elite traits that would lead them to be drafted early. The RB position has been devalued, but not nearly to the extent that this weak draft class is leading people to believe. These guys drafted in the 4th are just as much long shots to make any form of an impact as the 4th rounders were 10 years ago.

Things like "if the Texans don't take a RB soon, Foster is golden" are just silly statements. Foster's value (and Andre Brown for that matter) isn't impacted in the least if the Texans grab a RB in the 4th. Is someone like Ben Tate's value impacted by the addition of West at the end of the 3rd? Sure, if he sucks it is. But if he plays up to the potential he has when he was drafted as a 2nd rounder, then West will remain a backup. There's always going to be competition, but the cream rises to the top. That cream typically aren't the 8th to 12th RB's drafted in any particular year during the 4th round.

Say what? Hyde would have been a 1st rounder 10 years ago easily.here are some previous 1st round RBs that would not be today:

Cadillac Williams

Laurence Maroney

Joseph Addai

Felix Jones

Knowsho Moreno - Bishop Sankey smokes this guys college stats.

Jahvid Best

I can go on and on. It's a different game of drafting now.

Hindsight is beautiful, and teams make bad picks every year. Saying that a 4th round RB this year is equivalent to 2nd round RB of the past is just plain wrong on many levels. Think there'd have been 13 running backs off the board in the first 2 rounds in any previous year? Shoot, make it the first 3 rounds. I doubt it. That's how many were picked through 4 rounds this year. Yet people are reacting to every one of these rookie picks like it's the death of the incumbent. I love rookies as much as anyone, but it's to a level of foolishness,

 

[lod01]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin - meh, drafted behind Lacy

Kyle Jusczcyk - who?

Marcus Lattimore -legs flop around while running

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu - meh

Kendall Hunter -

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic - who?

Taiwan Jones - too skinny

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta -who?, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson - blocker

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

Well, those most of those guys sucked coming out in my opinion. I did think Carter would be a tough bowling ball but he fumbled his way out of the league and had a #### work ethic. Missed badly on him. I liked Powell, and Turbin (until he went to SEA) and still like Miller.

A lot of those guys are FA pickups now.

 

[cstu]

Things like "if the Texans don't take a RB soon, Foster is golden" are just silly statements. Foster's value (and Andre Brown for that matter) isn't impacted in the least if the Texans grab a RB in the 4th.

Storm Johnson would absolutely a threat to Foster long-term. Teams make roster decisions all the time based on contracts and the last thing Foster needs is for the Texans to have a reason to cut him and his $6M salary.

 

[Louche]

No, a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB. There's no RB's being taken early this year because none exhibit elite traits that would lead them to be drafted early. The RB position has been devalued, but not nearly to the extent that this weak draft class is leading people to believe. These guys drafted in the 4th are just as much long shots to make any form of an impact as the 4th rounders were 10 years ago.

I agree with your basic sentiment that people should not be so quick to label things black or white when mostly it is some shade of grey, but in a way you're doing a bit of the same by taking a polar standpoint saying that a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB regardless of year. Obviously there is a different dynamic for every draft in terms of which positions get targeted when. The RB group this year is largely viewed as lacking in top talent but deep in that second and third tier of talents. So it is very natural that teams wait to draft RBs this year, and you see them playing chicken a bit, but when a team started going RB you saw a run where other teams followed to secure "their guy".

 

[SayWhat?]

Things like "if the Texans don't take a RB soon, Foster is golden" are just silly statements. Foster's value (and Andre Brown for that matter) isn't impacted in the least if the Texans grab a RB in the 4th.

Storm Johnson would absolutely a threat to Foster long-term. Teams make roster decisions all the time based on contracts and the last thing Foster needs is for the Texans to have a reason to cut him and his $6M salary.

A 5th or 6th round rookie RB has a very very remote chance of being the reason a player like Foster would get cut for cap reasons. Far more likely they draft his replacement much higher in a future draft. Again, waaaaaaay too much stock being out into any of these 4th or later rookie backs impacting existing starters.

 

[lod01]

Crowell is the only RB that I have left that can impact the starter if he goes somewhere like JAX.

 

[SayWhat?]

No, a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB. There's no RB's being taken early this year because none exhibit elite traits that would lead them to be drafted early. The RB position has been devalued, but not nearly to the extent that this weak draft class is leading people to believe. These guys drafted in the 4th are just as much long shots to make any form of an impact as the 4th rounders were 10 years ago.

I agree with your basic sentiment that people should not be so quick to label things black or white when mostly it is some shade of grey, but in a way you're doing a bit of the same by taking a polar standpoint saying that a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB regardless of year. Obviously there is a different dynamic for every draft in terms of which positions get targeted when. The RB group this year is largely viewed as lacking in top talent but deep in that second and third tier of talents. So it is very natural that teams wait to draft RBs this year, and you see them playing chicken a bit, but when a team started going RB you saw a run where other teams followed to secure "their guy".

Absolutely agree. A few of these rookies will end up getting significant workload, for whatever reason. But every rookie RB picked is garnering a "downgrade (fill in incumbent veteran here)" in this thread. Like people didn't expect the Browns to grab a RB with the dredge that they have at RB behind Tate? Of course they were going to. How much that impacts Tate in this example is dependent upon how much you like West, and where the Browns drafted him at. You have to factor in these rookies, but the hyperbole vs the likelihood that a majority of these rookies have any impact aren't at all in line.

 

[cloppbeast]

I'm sure drafting Watkins had nothing to do with Stevie Johnson getting traded. No impact on the vets.


I'm pretty sure no one put a "Down" on AP after Jerick McKinnon was drafted. Same as JC with the Thomas pick. There's no "slight" "major" etc. in front of the UP/Down for the most part. So, when a team drafts a player of the same position there's going to be added competition for the vets. Regardless of how things shake out in the future, at this point having to fight off another player isn't a good thing for the vet.

Yeah, rookies have an effect, sometimes a big one. But many posters on this forum overstate it.

In justifying the opinion, posters then recount anecdotes of rookies who have ruined veterans, but ignore the vastness of rookie failures. Most of the time, rookies make an impact in 2-3 years. Dubiously assuming that the rookie works out, the veteran's landscape has changed unpredictably anyway during the same time - like going to another team or getting hit by a truck.

 

[cloppbeast]

Green Bay taking Jared Abbrederis at the end of the fifth, significant hit to Jordy Nelson's value.

But it definitely helps Aaron Rodgers.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Spiller - Down

Brown - Up

Spiller is the same

 

[TheBottomLine]

Green Bay taking Jared Abbrederis at the end of the fifth, significant hit to Jordy Nelson's value.

But it definitely helps Aaron Rodgers.

Nelson isn't even worth rostering in my 10-team dynasty league now.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Green Bay taking Jared Abbrederis at the end of the fifth, significant hit to Jordy Nelson's value.

But it definitely helps Aaron Rodgers.

Nelson isn't even worth rostering in my 10-team dynasty league now.

I really hope you're joking.

 

[Freelove]

Green Bay taking Jared Abbrederis at the end of the fifth, significant hit to Jordy Nelson's value.

But it definitely helps Aaron Rodgers.

Nelson isn't even worth rostering in my 10-team dynasty league now.

I really hope you're joking.

Abbrederis was like a quarter second faster in the cone drill. The writing's on the wall.

 

[cstu]

Green Bay taking Jared Abbrederis at the end of the fifth, significant hit to Jordy Nelson's value.

But it definitely helps Aaron Rodgers.

Nelson isn't even worth rostering in my 10-team dynasty league now.

I really hope you're joking.

Abbrederis was like a quarter second faster in the cone drill. The writing's on the wall.

Damn, think I could get a 3rd for him now?

 

[cstu]

Spiller - Down

Brown - Up

Spiller is the same

It's never good when a team adds a young RB to a team where the current RB - who turns 28 next year - is in the last year of his contract.

 

[cstu]

No, a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB. There's no RB's being taken early this year because none exhibit elite traits that would lead them to be drafted early. The RB position has been devalued, but not nearly to the extent that this weak draft class is leading people to believe. These guys drafted in the 4th are just as much long shots to make any form of an impact as the 4th rounders were 10 years ago.

I agree with your basic sentiment that people should not be so quick to label things black or white when mostly it is some shade of grey, but in a way you're doing a bit of the same by taking a polar standpoint saying that a 4th round RB is still a 4th round RB regardless of year. Obviously there is a different dynamic for every draft in terms of which positions get targeted when. The RB group this year is largely viewed as lacking in top talent but deep in that second and third tier of talents. So it is very natural that teams wait to draft RBs this year, and you see them playing chicken a bit, but when a team started going RB you saw a run where other teams followed to secure "their guy".

Absolutely agree. A few of these rookies will end up getting significant workload, for whatever reason. But every rookie RB picked is garnering a "downgrade (fill in incumbent veteran here)" in this thread. Like people didn't expect the Browns to grab a RB with the dredge that they have at RB behind Tate? Of course they were going to. How much that impacts Tate in this example is dependent upon how much you like West, and where the Browns drafted him at. You have to factor in these rookies, but the hyperbole vs the likelihood that a majority of these rookies have any impact aren't at all in line.

That is not the case.

 

[Christo]

Tress Way - Down

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Crowell is the only RB that I have left that can impact the starter if he goes somewhere like JAX.

Meh

 

[JoshuaJon]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin

Kyle Jusczcyk

Marcus Lattimore

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu

Kendall Hunter

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic

Taiwan Jones

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson.

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

I hear ya, but it's hard to ignore late round rookies when Foster, Morris, Stacy, Ellington are so fresh in people's minds, cuz they just emerged from the netherlands in the last few years. One of these late round rookies will be a sought after guy next year, the hard part is predicting which one.

Me, I like Seastrunk a LOT.

 

[az_prof]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin

Kyle Jusczcyk

Marcus Lattimore

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu

Kendall Hunter

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic

Taiwan Jones

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson.

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

I hear ya, but it's hard to ignore late round rookies when Foster, Morris, Stacy, Ellington are so fresh in people's minds, cuz they just emerged from the netherlands in the last few years. One of these late round rookies will be a sought after guy next year, the hard part is predicting which one.

Me, I like Seastrunk a LOT.

These guys drafted in the third round and later have maybe a 5-10% chance of ever being a starter. Less for the guys drafted in the 4-7 rounds.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

 

[cstu]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

 

[Dez]

At least the overreaction is held to a minimum....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

boykin

 

[JoshuaJon]

I like how in this thread every pick even in these mid to late rounds seemingly sends every incumbent down. Lots of these players at this stage are depth moves and nothing more.

I agree, but with teams waiting so long on RB's the 4th isn't what it used to be.

Exactly. A 4th rd RB is what used to be a 2nd rounder.

Maybe a 4th rd RB now is what a 2nd round RB used to be 15 years ago, but people weren't that scared of 2nd round RBs 15 years ago either. People are treating this like a 4th rounder this year is the same as a 2nd rounder last year. It's just not true.

People are losing perspective because it's draft day, just like they do every year. As a reminder/wake-up call, here are the 4th round RBs of the last 3 years:

Jonathan Franklin

Kyle Jusczcyk

Marcus Lattimore

Lamar Miller

Robert Turbin

Roy Helu

Kendall Hunter

Delone Carter

Owen Marecic

Taiwan Jones

Bilal Powell

Jamie Harper

If we keep going back we get Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Andre Brown, Gartrell Johnson.

Yes, all things being equal you'd rather the team not draft a RB in the 4th round and yes, it's possible that any of these guys could be the next Domanick Davis. However, this is by FAR the exception to the rule and very, very rare. It's not that unusual for teams to draft guys that can be special teamers and depth in the 2nd round. It's downright common for them to do it in the 4th round.

I hear ya, but it's hard to ignore late round rookies when Foster, Morris, Stacy, Ellington are so fresh in people's minds, cuz they just emerged from the netherlands in the last few years. One of these late round rookies will be a sought after guy next year, the hard part is predicting which one.

Me, I like Seastrunk a LOT.

These guys drafted in the third round and later have maybe a 5-10% chance of ever being a starter. Less for the guys drafted in the 4-7 rounds.

True. But currently over 30% of the starting RBs in the league were drafted in the 3rd round or later. So while the majority of the late round guys won't make an impact, it's important to understand that some will, and try like hell to project which one's they will be.

 

[duaneok66]

Crowell - down . . .

I thought he was supposed to be the best RB in the draft.

 

[jurb26]

Crowell - down . . .

I thought he was supposed to be the best RB in the draft.

Never should have listen to the hype.

 

[duaneok66]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Abbrederis will play.

It probably won't be enough to make him a fantasy factor, but he will help the Pack.

 

[duaneok66]

Crowell - down . . .

I thought he was supposed to be the best RB in the draft.

Never should have listen to the hype.

I didn't.

 

[humpback]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

 

[jurb26]

Crowell - down . . .

I thought he was supposed to be the best RB in the draft.

Never should have listen to the hype.

I didn't.

We see things alike pretty often.

 

[cstu]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

 

[Christo]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

 

[humpback]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

They watched him sign a big fat contract? I don't think he's regretting his decision, and these are different situations anyhow.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

you're bad at football

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

He has trouble sleeping at night I'm sure.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Crowell is the only RB that I have left that can impact the starter if he goes somewhere like JAX.

well hes a UDFA now, maybe he catches on somewhere

 

[cstu]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

you're bad at football

Sure. I'm the one that said Jennings was leaving GB when everyone assumed he would resign in GB. Now I'm saying those guys have learned a lesson and will take a little less to stay in a perfect situation.

 

[cstu]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

He could easily be cut after this year and end up with $18M over 2 years and looking for another job as a 32 yo WR.

This is the same point that CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman made Friday.

"So Jennings made the classic decision," Freeman wrote. "He got his money, but his career is all downhill from here. The Packers will continue to fight for Super Bowls, and Jennings will disappear like he's wearing a cloaking device.

"When news broke, I contacted a Packers player for reaction, and he texted: 'I don't blame Greg at all. I just think he made a mistake. He went from prime rib to Burger King.'"

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Watkins - down slightly landing in Buffalo with poor QB play

Evans - staying the same

ODB - stock up landing on Giants.

Randle - stock down.

Ebron - stock way up. Will be Stafford's #2 target

Cooks - stock way up. 100+ yearly receptions is realistic

Manziel - stock down. No WR's to throw to if Gordon gets suspended

Bridgewater - stock up. Fits Vikings offense perfectly and the Vikings have weapons

Benjamin - stock up, dispite average talent IMO. Easily could be Panthers #1 WR

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

He could easily be cut after this year and end up with $18M over 2 years and looking for another job as a 32 yo WR.

This is the same point that CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman made Friday.

"So Jennings made the classic decision," Freeman wrote. "He got his money, but his career is all downhill from here. The Packers will continue to fight for Super Bowls, and Jennings will disappear like he's wearing a cloaking device.

"When news broke, I contacted a Packers player for reaction, and he texted: 'I don't blame Greg at all. I just think he made a mistake. He went from prime rib to Burger King.'"

So ur saying he should of turned down 9 mil a year to stay in gb for what? Because it better? Ok, gimme the money

 

[cstu]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

He could easily be cut after this year and end up with $18M over 2 years and looking for another job as a 32 yo WR.

This is the same point that CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman made Friday.

"So Jennings made the classic decision," Freeman wrote. "He got his money, but his career is all downhill from here. The Packers will continue to fight for Super Bowls, and Jennings will disappear like he's wearing a cloaking device.

"When news broke, I contacted a Packers player for reaction, and he texted: 'I don't blame Greg at all. I just think he made a mistake. He went from prime rib to Burger King.'"

So ur saying he should of turned down 9 mil a year to stay in gb for what? Because it better? Ok, gimme the money

They offered him $8M a year, $1M is enough for me to stay in GB have a better chance of continuing to get paid after two years.

 

[lod01]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

you're bad at football

Sure. I'm the one that said Jennings was leaving GB when everyone assumed he would resign in GB. Now I'm saying those guys have learned a lesson and will take a little less to stay in a perfect situation.

Some guys go for the $ some guys don't. Jennings basically went for the $ on what will be his last big fat contract. After he's cut, he will sign at best a 2 year deal somewhere. At his age it was a smart move to go for that $. Of course I just flat out cut him off my fantasy team knowing he was going to suck with that QB crew. Bridgewater won't help his situation either.

 

[lod01]

This is the same point that CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman made Friday.

"So Jennings made the classic decision," Freeman wrote. "He got his money, but his career is all downhill from here. The Packers will continue to fight for Super Bowls, and Jennings will disappear like he's wearing a cloaking device.

"When news broke, I contacted a Packers player for reaction, and he texted: 'I don't blame Greg at all. I just think he made a mistake. He went from prime rib to Burger King.'"

Burger King is being generous.

He probably could have made the same amount of $ in GB over a longer period of time but when you are 30, you can't be sure you have the years left to make that same $. He did kill a nice career though.

 

[lod01]

Tajh Boyd stock ......meh, who cares. Went to a good place. Out of the way of any WR I am interested in.

 

[Christo]

Packers taking 3 WR has got to hurt somebody?

Adams puts pressure on Cobb and Nelson to sign for cheap. Abbrederis and Janis are flyers.

Umm, it might give GB an alternative to overpaying for Cobb and/or Nelson, but they aren't lowering their demands because of Adams.

Not sure about that - they watched what happened to Jennings when he refused to play for less than what another team offered.

Yeah, he received a 5 year, $47MM contract with $18MM guaranteed.

He could easily be cut after this year and end up with $18M over 2 years and looking for another job as a 32 yo WR.

Would the Pack have guaranteed his entire contract?Didn't think so.

 

[domvin]

Crowell. All it takes is a team like atlanta tl bring him in.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Crowell. All it takes is a team like atlanta tl bring him in.

Just signed with CLE. Decent landing spot, competes with West behind Tate.