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There are tons of rookie drafts going on right now. And we all like talking about our own teams. Here's your thread to post your personal draft results for all to see. I'll start.

And feel free to rip my draft apart or hire me to do your draft for you.

1.03 Julio Jones

2.03 Delone Carter

2.05 Vincent Brown

2.07 Bilal Powell

3.03 Blaine Gabbert

3.07 Jacquizz Rodgers

4.09 Lance Kendricks

5.03 Evan Royster

 
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excellent drafts

we have a 16 team league so QBs go a bit quicker. I expect the top 6 to be off the board before the end of the 2nd.

 
3rounds 14 teams

1.05 daniel thomas

2.05 Kendall Hunter

3.05 Greg Salas

3.06 Edmond Gates

Nothing to exciting right now. But we'll see how it unfolds.

 
16 team IDP/PPR, nothing mind blowing but I got everyone I targeted so I was happy enough.

2.14 Lewis, Dion PHI RB ®

2.16 Quinn, Robert STL DE ®

3.05 Bradford, Allen TBB RB ®

3.10 Moore, Denarius OAK WR ®

5.04 Mouton, Jonas SDC LB ®

5.05 * Spann, Chad FA RB

Of the ones I've seen above, 3.07 is crazy good value for Quizz, 3.05/3.06 for Salas and Gates is quality too.

 
16 team IDP/PPR, nothing mind blowing but I got everyone I targeted so I was happy enough.2.14 Lewis, Dion PHI RB ® 2.16 Quinn, Robert STL DE ® 3.05 Bradford, Allen TBB RB ® 3.10 Moore, Denarius OAK WR ® 5.04 Mouton, Jonas SDC LB ® 5.05 * Spann, Chad FA RBOf the ones I've seen above, 3.07 is crazy good value for Quizz, 3.05/3.06 for Salas and Gates is quality too.
Liking Mouton where you got him, Bradford was a terrible reach. Moore was a little early compared to most drafts, but really about where he should beLewis is consistently falling to the end of the 3rd tier of RBs, good value there
 
Mine so far:

12 team PPR:

1.09 9. Broncofan Leshoure, Mikel DET RB ®

2.03 15. Broncofan Carter, Delone IND RB ®

2.09 21. Broncofan Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB ®

2.11 23. Broncofan Gates, Edmond MIA WR ®

3.09 33. Broncofan Powell, Bilal NYJ RB ®

3.12 36. Broncofan Moss, Randy TEN WR

4.09 45. Broncofan Moore, Denarius OAK WR ®

12 team PPR:

1.07 7. Broncofan Leshoure, Mikel DET RB ®

3.01 26. Broncofan Powell, Bilal NYJ RB ®

3.07 32. Broncofan Locker, Jake TEN QB ®

3.10 35. Broncofan Lewis, Dion PHI RB ®

4.07 44. Broncofan Harper, Jamie TEN RB ®

4.10 47. Broncofan White, Johnny BUF RB ®

12 team PPR:

2.06 18. Broncofan Newton, Cam CAR QB ®

3.02 26. Broncofan Salas, Greg STL WR ®

3.07 31. Broncofan Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB ®

3.08 32. Broncofan Kendricks, Lance STL TE ®

3.10 34. Broncofan Ponder, Christian MIN QB ®

4.02 38. Broncofan Pettis, Austin STL WR ®

12 team PPR:

1.11 - Cobb, Randall

2.10 - Hunter, Kendall

2.11 - Rodgers, Quizz

3.04 - Locker, Jake

3.05 - Gates, Edmond

3.09 - Pettis, Austin

4.01 - Kaepernic, Colin

 
Mine so far: 12 team PPR:1.09 9. Broncofan Leshoure, Mikel DET RB ® 2.03 15. Broncofan Carter, Delone IND RB ® 2.09 21. Broncofan Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB ® 2.11 23. Broncofan Gates, Edmond MIA WR ® 3.09 33. Broncofan Powell, Bilal NYJ RB ® 3.12 36. Broncofan Moss, Randy TEN WR 4.09 45. Broncofan Moore, Denarius OAK WR ® 12 team PPR:1.07 7. Broncofan Leshoure, Mikel DET RB ® 3.01 26. Broncofan Powell, Bilal NYJ RB ® 3.07 32. Broncofan Locker, Jake TEN QB ® 3.10 35. Broncofan Lewis, Dion PHI RB ® 4.07 44. Broncofan Harper, Jamie TEN RB ® 4.10 47. Broncofan White, Johnny BUF RB ® 12 team PPR:2.06 18. Broncofan Newton, Cam CAR QB ® 3.02 26. Broncofan Salas, Greg STL WR ® 3.07 31. Broncofan Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB ® 3.08 32. Broncofan Kendricks, Lance STL TE ® 3.10 34. Broncofan Ponder, Christian MIN QB ® 4.02 38. Broncofan Pettis, Austin STL WR ® 12 team PPR:1.11 - Cobb, Randall2.10 - Hunter, Kendall2.11 - Rodgers, Quizz3.04 - Locker, Jake3.05 - Gates, Edmond3.09 - Pettis, Austin4.01 - Kaepernic, Colin
I'm liking where you're getting Powell. Is he officially a sleeper for rookie drafts cuz i'm seeing the third round as his usual spot?
 
Took over the worst team in the league last year and blew it up for future picks. Landed the 1.01 and 1.02, and traded the 1.07, 1.09, 1.11 and 1.12 for the 1.03 and a couple later picks....

Start 1 QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 Flex/1 K/1 DEF

My draft went like this.

1.01 AJ Green

1.02 Mark Ingram

1.03 Julio Jones

3.03 Blaine Gabbert

4.01 Johnny White

4.03 Julius Thomas

My team before the draft basically consisted of Stafford, Dez Bryant, Jacoby Ford, Dustin Keller, Rob Gronkowski and waiver wire fodder.

There are some stacked teams in this league and I felt I needed to take some risks for some elite talent to be able to compete.

 
Drafted last week.12 man, .5/1/1.5 PPR for RB/WR/TE draft. Start-up was in early-April, drafted rookie placeholders. Draft only lasted through 4 rounds.

1.02 Mark Ingram, RB, New Orleans

1.04 Ryan Williams, RB, Arizona

1.06 Daniel Thomas, RB, Miami

1.10 Torrey Smith, WR, Baltimore

2.05 DeMarco Murray, RB, Dallas

2.09 Kyle Rudolph, TE, Minnesota

3.08 Christian Ponder, QB, Minnesota

4.02 Andy Dalton, QB, Cincinatti

UDFA (Blind Bid) Denarius Moore, WR, Oakland

UDFA (Blind Bid) Tandon Doss, WR, Baltimore

UDFA (Blind Bid) Luke Stocker, TE, TB

 
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14 team ppr, full idp. Lost the 2010 championship game.

Pick #

4....RB Ryan Williams

13....WR Randall Cobb

16....RB Delone Carter

21....WR Vincent Brown

26....QB Blaine Gabbert

35....RB Bilal Powell

41....DE Jabaal Sheard

49....LB Bruce Carter

55....LB Greg Jones

 
12 team PPR X-Men

1.08 Williams, Ryan ARI RB

2.08 Smith, Torrey BAL WR

3.08 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB

4.08 Lewis, Dion PHI RB

5.08 Carter, Bruce DAL LB

6.02 McCarthy, Colin TEN LB

6.08 Roberts, Andre ARI WR

14 team PPR Fin's

2.08 Salas, Greg STL WR

3.01 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB

3.02 Jones, Taiwan OAK RB

3.05 Young, Titus DET WR

 
12 team PPR

1.02 AJ Green

2.04 Jon Baldwin

3.09 Bilal Powell

4.04 Lance Kendricks

5.09

This is the leagues initial draft so the rookie is snaking as the pro draft did.

 
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16 team full IDP salary/contract where the picks are slotted automatic salaries and 3 year deals - started with 1.12, 1.15, 2.10, 3.13, 4.9, 4.13, 4.16

1.12 Vincent Brown, WR, SD - Still think this guy is Derrick Mason with a better QB than Mason ever had

1.15 - felt like my board was pretty flat at that point. Had six players I liked about equally, led by Greg Salas, who was going in the late 2nd/early 3rd in the rookie drafts I had already done, plus only one QB and no IDPs had gone. my next pick was 2.10, so traded down to pretty much the highest bidder, but not a very high bid - reflecting the shared belief that rookie boards flatten out after the top 10-12 or so - 1.15 and 3.13 for 2.12, 2.15, 5.15 and 2012 4th - my reasoning here: 1 - salaries for 2nd rounders were 33% cheaper 2- get another pick into the top 30-35 "strike zone" that might snag me another top 6 player if there were enough IDPs and QBs taken, two extra late picks, which are like lottery tickets with big payoffs in this format because their salaries are less than 1/2 of 1% of the cap.

well, all six of my targets went before 2.10. none of the non-Newton QBs or IDPs went. Once again, my board was very flat, so traded 2.10 for 3.4, 5.11 and another 2012 4th. Then traded 2.12, 3.4, and 4.9 (would have probably ended up being Gabbert, Kaepernick, and Jamie Harper (well Locker at 2.15, where I ended up getting Gabbert) for a 2012 1st of a team that looks middle of the road at the very best to me - this also frees up taxi squad spots to keep some of the my 2010 rookies counting only 1/4 towards my cap and some extra cap room for the annual FA auction coming up soon.

2.15 Blaine Gabbert, QB, JAX - really starting to warm to him, locked in at less than 2% of cap for 3 years with extension potential - will go up to 1/2 of average of top 10 in first top 20 year, then average of top 10 in 2nd - probably trade him before that.

4.13 Austin Pettis, WR, STL - I prefer Salas greatly, but I also have Mardy Gilyard signed and I'm willing to sometimes hedge in one league when I have a heavy bet on a counterpart in my work and other leagues as I do with Salas - kind of cowardly, but I saw all of my other targets falling to my remaining picks.

4.16 Jordan Cameron, TE, CLE - Jimmy Graham with a lesser situation. Trying to bag him in every league, although I've gotten beat to the punch in three of them, including Waldman at 3.1 in a TE premium league and Gianmarco at 3.7 in HA2.

5.11 Dwayne Harris, WR, DAL - Underrated this guy in my post draft 100 because of situation. Might take patience but is in that Hines Ward mold like Cobb

5.14 Julius Thomas, TE, DEN - Really liked him pre-draft and would have targeted him in more drafts if he didn't come with a sidekick like Dickson/Pitta last year and land with a coach who barely used solid receiving TEs like Rosario and Barnidge even though he didn't have a WR2 to speak of the last few years...

Had a plan, got torpedoed, so just kept trading down and deferring some benefits to next year. The key is advertising when picks are available and being patient with your clock...

 
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12 team ppr1.01 aj green2.01 Jon Baldwin3.01 Greg Salas16 team .5 ppr1.15 Randall Cobb2.14 Bilal Powell
Cobb at 1.15 will look terrific in a couple of years, maybe Powell at 2.14 too. Would have gone Ingram over Green unless this is a start 4-5 WR league. You'll regret Baldwin if you took him over Brown, but getting Salas at 3.1 is huge. solid work
 
12 team PPR X-Men1.08 Williams, Ryan ARI RB 2.08 Smith, Torrey BAL WR3.08 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB4.08 Lewis, Dion PHI RB 5.08 Carter, Bruce DAL LB 6.02 McCarthy, Colin TEN LB 6.08 Roberts, Andre ARI WR 14 team PPR Fin's2.08 Salas, Greg STL WR 3.01 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB3.02 Jones, Taiwan OAK RB 3.05 Young, Titus DET WR
Ryan Williams at 1.8 is a dream scenario, lucky you. Can't get excited about Smith, wonder if I have underrated Doss because I actually think he's a more natural receiver and almost as fast. Gabbert is underrated, as I said, above, really warming to him at QB2 - although I see in a 12 teamer how the QBs can slide, everyone should be feeling pretty good about their QBs right now. Lewis is consistent value at the end of the third RB tier as I said, could have a Mike Goodson mini-breakout if McCoy misses time. Carter at 5.8 is just silly unless you only start 2 LBs.Like the haul in the 14 teamer a lot - Jones is a real fun upside gamble, could be the next Charles
 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.

 
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Non-PPR 14 team

2.7 Bilal Powell RB NYJ Almost went with Cobb here, but picking at the 2.13, I gambled...

2.13 Greg Salas WR STL ...and lost. Salas is a really good consolation prize though.

4.13 Jamie Harper RB TENN Backup to Chris Johnson? Probably a September cut.

5.13 Damian Williams WR TENN If I'm this guy, I'm working my ### off this off-season with the hopes of becoming the guy that Kenny Britt should be. DW is not a bum by any stretch, it's just having KKKerry throwing him the ball isn't exactly awesome.

6.13 Josh Johnson QB TB So much potential. So little opportunity.

 
My rookie draft is yet to happen. I have picks 1.2,1.3,1.5,1.6,2.3,2.4,3.5,3.10. I'm currently working on deals to try and get 1.1 & 1.4. I'd be ecstatic if I could end up with the first 6 picks. From what I've seen in this thread so far a lot of you guys got some really good value picks after the first round. I like the one of Ryan Williams at 1.08. Pretty good since he's been going top 5.

 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him). Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders. I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:2.07 Titus Young2.12 Blaine Gabbert3.01 Bilal Powell3.09 ?Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson PalmerPlayer losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel SandersHad I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1Mathews >= Best (roughly)Sanders > TOSo you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did itreally like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is thereLove the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
 
Non-PPR 14 team

2.7 Bilal Powell RB NYJ Almost went with Cobb here, but picking at the 2.13, I gambled...

2.13 Greg Salas WR STL ...and lost. Salas is a really good consolation prize though.

4.13 Jamie Harper RB TENN Backup to Chris Johnson? Probably a September cut.

5.13 Damian Williams WR TENN If I'm this guy, I'm working my ### off this off-season with the hopes of becoming the guy that Kenny Britt should be. DW is not a bum by any stretch, it's just having KKKerry throwing him the ball isn't exactly awesome.

6.13 Josh Johnson QB TB So much potential. So little opportunity.
Williams and JJ were major steals, dont know why people underrate the vets so much in mixed drafts. Powell is just fine in mid-2nd, especially in a nonPPR
 
12 team PPR league, TE premium, full IDP.

1.12 RB Shane Vereen - liked the value here big time, and had a need at RB, so I had to take him.

I had back to back picks, 2.11 and 2.12, and I didn't like what was on the board. I traded 2.11, 2.12 for 3.02, 5.02 and a 2012 2nd rounder.

3.02 RB Taiwan Jones - I took a chance here with Jones, but I really need some developmental backs for this roster and Jones is a great lottery ticket pick.

3.12 WR Greg Salas - Had a chance to take him earlier in the late 2nd and early 3rd and passed him up. The value here is too good to turn down. I hope he can become a reliable target for Bradford and that OC Joshy McD can get the best out of him.

4.12 RB Dion Lewis - I have been a fan of Lewis since the first time I watched him play at Pitt. He is a very elusive player between the tackles who lacks breakaway speed but he has such an intuitive feel for his blockers and rushing lanes. In Andy Reid's offense, I think McCoy and Lewis will form quite the tandem.

5.02 TE Jordan Cameron - Jordan Cameron is a guy I've read a lot of good things about. A former basketball star, he reminds people in the scouting community of Jimmy Graham who I also have on my roster. Cameron could be a very good player for Cleveland in a few years.

And I'm almost back on the clock for the 5.12 pick. I'm eyeing D.J. Williams and Jamie Harper here.

 
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16 team full IDP salary/contract where the picks are slotted automatic salaries and 3 year deals - started with 1.12, 1.15, 2.10, 3.13, 4.9, 4.13, 4.16

1.12 Vincent Brown, WR, SD - Still think this guy is Derrick Mason with a better QB than Mason ever had

1.15 - felt like my board was pretty flat at that point. Had six players I liked about equally, led by Greg Salas, who was going in the late 2nd/early 3rd in the rookie drafts I had already done, plus only one QB and no IDPs had gone. my next pick was 2.10, so traded down to pretty much the highest bidder, but not a very high bid - reflecting the shared belief that rookie boards flatten out after the top 10-12 or so - 1.15 and 3.13 for 2.12, 2.15, 5.15 and 2012 4th - my reasoning here: 1 - salaries for 2nd rounders were 33% cheaper 2- get another pick into the top 30-35 "strike zone" that might snag me another top 6 player if there were enough IDPs and QBs taken, two extra late picks, which are like lottery tickets with big payoffs in this format because their salaries are less than 1/2 of 1% of the cap.

well, all six of my targets went before 2.10. none of the non-Newton QBs or IDPs went. Once again, my board was very flat, so traded 2.10 for 3.4, 5.11 and another 2012 4th. Then traded 2.12, 3.4, and 4.9 (would have probably ended up being Gabbert, Kaepernick, and Jamie Harper (well Locker at 2.15, where I ended up getting Gabbert) for a 2012 1st of a team that looks middle of the road at the very best to me - this also frees up taxi squad spots to keep some of the my 2010 rookies counting only 1/4 towards my cap and some extra cap room for the annual FA auction coming up soon.

2.15 Blaine Gabbert, QB, JAX - really starting to warm to him, locked in at less than 2% of cap for 3 years with extension potential - will go up to 1/2 of average of top 10 in first top 20 year, then average of top 10 in 2nd - probably trade him before that.

4.13 Austin Pettis, WR, STL - I prefer Salas greatly, but I also have Mardy Gilyard signed and I'm willing to sometimes hedge in one league when I have a heavy bet on a counterpart in my work and other leagues as I do with Salas - kind of cowardly, but I saw all of my other targets falling to my remaining picks.

4.16 Jordan Cameron, TE, CLE - Jimmy Graham with a lesser situation. Trying to bag him in every league, although I've gotten beat to the punch in three of them, including Waldman at 3.1 in a TE premium league and Gianmarco at 3.7 in HA2.

5.11 Dwayne Harris, WR, DAL - Underrated this guy in my post draft 100 because of situation. Might take patience but is in that Hines Ward mold like Cobb

5.14 Julius Thomas, TE, DEN - Really liked him pre-draft and would have targeted him in more drafts if he didn't come with a sidekick like Dickson/Pitta last year and land with a coach who barely used solid receiving TEs like Rosario and Barnidge even though he didn't have a WR2 to speak of the last few years...

Had a plan, got torpedoed, so just kept trading down and deferring some benefits to next year. The key is advertising when picks are available and being patient with your clock...
Same league as Bloom.1.02 Mark Ingram, RB NO - Originally held picks 1.01 and 1.08 but traded them for 1.02 and 1.05 pre NFL draft with the idea that there were 5 blue chip FF talents. Ingram is in the same tier as Green who went 1.01 so I considered the deal a lateral move and am happy to have a kid I think might be a top 10 back perennially.

1.05 Ryan Willimas, RB ARZ - Not crazy about his landing spot, but going with talent over situation I can live with it. Throw out his senior season marred by injury and it could be argued he is the most physically gifted runner in this class. Happy to be able to root against Beanie Wells this season.

3.01 Jake Locker, QB TEN - Lots of action for this pick. Trade offers galore. Watched Bloom snag Gabbert, who I was targeting, one pick before mine. None of the offers got my attention, so I went with a kid that I see as a perfect match to his offensive scheme that IMO is horribly underrated. Boom or bust pick.

3.09 Kyle Rudoplh, TE MIN - Nothing glamorous about this pick. Just good value that fell to the right spot. I'm expecting he grows into a very good TE2

4.01 Johnny White, RB BUF - Considered all the IDP's available and third tier WR's. Decided to again swing for the fences and take a guy who is getting very overlooked IMO. Reasonably direct path to playing time combined with top notch intangibles and adequate physical skills. Could play Thomas to Spiler's Bush in a year or two.

4.08 Ryan Mallett, QB NE - Yet another late pick with a swing for the fences mentality. Not sure he's a great play in this league as rooks only get 3 year deals and folks can steal them off your PS for late picks, but as far as upside goes he was the top of my list after the third round.

5.01 DJ Williams, TE, GB - Pick based almost totally on situation. I'm not a huge believer in Finley's long term viability in GB both from a contractual and from a health standpoint. Williams has top notch intangibles and seems like a kid that will work to make his mark on the roster. If Finley leaves this pick might be golden.

Was targeting both Harris and Durham as rookie auction picks but they got snagged.

 
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12 Team PPR

This is the most competitive, active league I'm in. Before the draft I moved ADP for TB Mike and 1.02, which turned into Ingram. I also received an offer to move up from 1.06 to 1.04, and I saw Williams as the future starter in AZ. While my team was in need of WR help, I wasn't sold on any WR's outside of the top two, so I moved for a RB that should give me the ability to move depth for WRs if none of my younger guys break out.

1.02 Ingram, Mark NOS RB

1.04 Williams, Ryan ARI RB

4.10 Mallett, Ryan NEP QB

5.05 Bennett, Martellus DAL TE

5.06 Paul, Niles WAS WR

Starters look like:

Schaub

Charles, Ingram/PT

TB Mike, Maclin, Boldin

Flex: Greene/McKnight, Ryan Williams

Owen Daniels

Other leagues:

12 Team PPR

2.08 Newton, Cam CAR QB ®

Starters:

Flacco

Foster, DWil

AJ, Welker, Boldin

Flex: PT/BMW

Finley

12 Team .5 PPR Contract League

Was the worst team in the league and am rebuilding. I was unable to bid freely in RFA in order to retain Miles Austin, he's the only stud WR on my roster. This league typically has RB as the second highest scoring position behind QB.

1.01 Ingram, Mark NOS RB

2.01 Vereen, Shane NEP RB

3.01 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB

4.01 Moore, Denarius OAK WR

Starters:

Flacco

Ingram, Greene

Austin, SS2, Mike Thomas

Flex: Spiller/Vereen

V. Davis

 
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'Sigmund Bloom said:
'Donsmith753 said:
12 team ppr1.01 aj green2.01 Jon Baldwin3.01 Greg Salas16 team .5 ppr1.15 Randall Cobb2.14 Bilal Powell
Cobb at 1.15 will look terrific in a couple of years, maybe Powell at 2.14 too. Would have gone Ingram over Green unless this is a start 4-5 WR league. You'll regret Baldwin if you took him over Brown, but getting Salas at 3.1 is huge. solid work
I knew when I posted that Baldwin would be the one I'd get heat over. I took over that team just before the draft last year and it has one of the worst rosters I'd ever seen. That's why I decided to go with Green over Ingram as I'm in no position to do anything right now.I'm happier with how that 16team draft went but I'm in a much stronger position there and felt more values presented themselves there. Less experienced owners in that league.Appreciate the feedback as always. :thumbup:
 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
speed/slot receiver, dont think his hands are consistent enough, nor is he physical enough to hang on the outside, will get pushed around a ton
 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
speed/slot receiver, dont think his hands are consistent enough, nor is he physical enough to hang on the outside, will get pushed around a ton
Just out of curiosity, did you have similar thoughts about Desean Jackson after he was drafted by the Eagle? Young reminds me alot of Jackson, with a little Steve Smith mixed in. I think Young plays with more of a chip on his shoulder than Jackson, and doesnt seem afraid to go over the middle. Young might not be strong enough yet to to out muscle DB's, but he is so quick it might not matter too much. I dont think its long before he takes over the #2 spot from Burelson and could put up some big numbers with Calvin drawing all the coverage on the other side.

 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
speed/slot receiver, dont think his hands are consistent enough, nor is he physical enough to hang on the outside, will get pushed around a ton
Just out of curiosity, did you have similar thoughts about Desean Jackson after he was drafted by the Eagle? Young reminds me alot of Jackson, with a little Steve Smith mixed in. I think Young plays with more of a chip on his shoulder than Jackson, and doesnt seem afraid to go over the middle. Young might not be strong enough yet to to out muscle DB's, but he is so quick it might not matter too much. I dont think its long before he takes over the #2 spot from Burelson and could put up some big numbers with Calvin drawing all the coverage on the other side.
you could be right, but i dont see the exceptional suddenness and straight line speed that Desean has in Young. I think he's more of an Eddie Royal type, but not as rugged as Royal. Opportunity is definitely there, just not one of "my guys" this year. If he had more reliable and natural hands on the deep balls I could get behind him. I think Denarius Moore is a better receiver and he's available a round later (or more) even if his situation isnt nearly as good...
 
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Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
speed/slot receiver, dont think his hands are consistent enough, nor is he physical enough to hang on the outside, will get pushed around a ton
Just out of curiosity, did you have similar thoughts about Desean Jackson after he was drafted by the Eagle? Young reminds me alot of Jackson, with a little Steve Smith mixed in. I think Young plays with more of a chip on his shoulder than Jackson, and doesnt seem afraid to go over the middle. Young might not be strong enough yet to to out muscle DB's, but he is so quick it might not matter too much. I dont think its long before he takes over the #2 spot from Burelson and could put up some big numbers with Calvin drawing all the coverage on the other side.
you could be right, but i dont see the exceptional suddenness and straight line speed that Desean has in Young. I think he's more of an Eddie Royal type, but not as rugged as Royal. Opportunity is definitely there, just not one of "my guys" this year. If he had more reliable and natural hands on the deep balls I could get behind him. I think Denarius Moore is a better receiver and he's available a round later (or more) even if his situation isnt nearly as good...
This is what i like about him, he may not have Deseans long speed, but i think he is every bit as quick. Im pretty excted about Young, but i can see why others may not be.
 
10 team PPR - Won the championship last year

Team before draft:

QB: Cutler / Sanchez

RB: Charles, Forte / Benson, Choice, M. Bush, Torain

WR: Nicks, Marshall / Garcon, Crabtree, Sanders, Alexander

TE: Miller (Oak) / Hernandez

Three round rookie draft (didn't have a third round pick)

1.10 Little

2.10 Carter

Waivers after draft

E. Gates

T. Jones

J. Thomas

 
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10 team PPR - 1st year league

Team before draft:

QB: P. Mannning / Sanchez, McCoy

RB: Jones-Drew, McFadden / Starks, Choice, Jennings, Snelling

WR: Wallace, Holmes / Sanders, Williams (Sea), Hill

TE: Graham, Whitten / Heap

Five round rookie draft:

1.03 J. Jones

2.03 D. Murray

2.08 T. Smith

3.03 Gabbert

3.09 E. Gates

F/A Harper

F/A Paul

F/A Durham

F/A DeAndre Brown

 
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10 team Non-PPR

Team before draft:

QB: Bradford / Cutler

RB: Greene, Mathews / P. Thomas, Choice, M. Bush, Spiller, Snelling

WR: D. Jackson, Nicks, Williams (TB), S. Rice / M. Thomas

TE: Graham / Winslow

Five round rookie draft:

1.07 Carter

2.01 Little (Wanted another RB here, but first round was heavy with RB selections - Little was my highest rated player available)

3.04 E. Gates

3.05 T. Jones

 
12 Team PPR (can flex up to 4 WRs) - Just took over last place dynasty team with SJax, Addai as only RBs and aging WRs

1.02 2. Ingram, Mark NOS RB

2.02 14. Cobb, Randall GBP WR

2.08 20. Hunter, Kendall SFO RB (traded my 3.02, 4.02 and 2012 4th for this pick). I'll take those chances for two 4th rounders.

5.02 50. Decker, Eric DEN WR (Best vet FA with upside on the board IMO- was dropped during the draft). I'll sit for a year if needed. Some thought he was the 2nd-3rd best WR in that class.

12 Team PPR (can flex up to 4 WRs)

1.06 6. Leshoure, Mikel DET RB ® - at one time was a lock for 1.04. Give me the longterm talent!

2.01 13. Young, Titus DET WR ® (Passed up Cobb and V. Brown here. Had Burleson, James Jones, Nelson & Seyi....so it was a handcuff no matter what...went the counterintuitive Titus route. Also having Gore/Dixon but missing on Hunter (taken at 1.10) I knew I could probably get a good RB with my two later 2nd rounders.

2.06 18. Carter, Delone IND RB ® - couldn't pass this here.

2.08 20. Murray, DeMarco DAL RB ® - really couldn't pass this here once he made it past 2.07.

4.06 42. Pettis, Austin STL WR ®- have Bradford, so it made sense to add at least one handpicked McDaniels guy. Great hands, just not flashy. All the Justin Gage comparisons have his stock pretty low right now.

My Boise St. combo pack of WRs seem light but at least they are paired with the future elite QBs and up and coming teams, been very productive there.

 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him).

Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders.

I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:

2.07 Titus Young

2.12 Blaine Gabbert

3.01 Bilal Powell

3.09 ?

Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson Palmer

Player losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel Sanders

Had I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
Breaking down your deal -ADP > 1.1

Mathews >= Best (roughly)

Sanders > TO

So you went down from TO to Sanders to turn your 1.1 into a sure thing and bifurcate your 2.1 into 2.7 and 3.9 - pretty even, understand why you did it

really like 2.3 for Ford, 4.1 for Palmer not as much depending on who is there

Love the Gabbert and Powell picks, but Young at 2.7 was too early unless this is a return yards league
I think Young at 2.7 is very good value. What do you dislike about him?
speed/slot receiver, dont think his hands are consistent enough, nor is he physical enough to hang on the outside, will get pushed around a ton
Just out of curiosity, did you have similar thoughts about Desean Jackson after he was drafted by the Eagle? Young reminds me alot of Jackson, with a little Steve Smith mixed in. I think Young plays with more of a chip on his shoulder than Jackson, and doesnt seem afraid to go over the middle. Young might not be strong enough yet to to out muscle DB's, but he is so quick it might not matter too much. I dont think its long before he takes over the #2 spot from Burelson and could put up some big numbers with Calvin drawing all the coverage on the other side.
you could be right, but i dont see the exceptional suddenness and straight line speed that Desean has in Young. I think he's more of an Eddie Royal type, but not as rugged as Royal. Opportunity is definitely there, just not one of "my guys" this year. If he had more reliable and natural hands on the deep balls I could get behind him. I think Denarius Moore is a better receiver and he's available a round later (or more) even if his situation isnt nearly as good...
This is what i like about him, he may not have Deseans long speed, but i think he is every bit as quick. Im pretty excted about Young, but i can see why others may not be.
Unsurprisingly, I agree with Go Deep on this one. Here's my own personal ranking for the incoming WRs (Off the top of my head, I might miss someone):

1. AJ Green

2. Julio Jones

3. John Baldwin

4. Greg Little

5. Randall Cobb

6. Titus Young

7. Torrey Smith

8. Edmund Gates

9. Greg Salas

10. Leonard Hankerson

I don't necessarily advise others to follow my rankings, as they are heavily affected by the leagues that I am in, and the status of my teams (do I have the luxury of going with a boom/bust type? etc).

 
Total rebuild team, absolute dreck on the roster. After last season (and the previous owner holding the 1.01 for two consecutive years), all I had on my Roster of any value was Tony Romo and Ryan Mathews. Before the draft I traded Romo for Golden Tate and the 2.03/2.12 (sold low, I know, but neither of the teams with crap at QB wanted him). Now sitting with the 1.01, 2.01, 2.03, 2.12, 3.01, 4.01 (4 round draft). As the draft approached, an owner dropped out and was replaced. New guy offers me: He gives ADP, Best, Terrell Owens, 2.07, 3.09 for 1.01, 2.01, Ryan Mathews, Emmanuel Sanders. I ended up trading the 2.03 for Jacoby Ford and the 4.01 for Carson Palmer, then drafted the following:2.07 Titus Young2.12 Blaine Gabbert3.01 Bilal Powell3.09 ?Total player gains this offseason: Adrian Peterson, Jahvid Best, Golden Tate, Jacoby Ford, Titus Young, Blaine Gabbert, Bilal Powell, Terrell Owens, Carson PalmerPlayer losses: Ryan Mathews, Tony Romo, Emmanuel SandersHad I kept the picks, and based on how the draft played out, I'd have gotten: AJ Green (1.01), Randall Cobb (2.01), DeMarco Murray (2.03), Gabbert (2.12), Powell (3.01). I'm happy with the top set, even given the player losses.
3.09 = Christian Ponder, who dropped much farther than I would have thought. In that draft the QBs went:2.03 Locker2.10 Newton2.12 Gabbert3.03 Kaepernick3.09 Ponder
 
12 team ppr idp:

1.02 AJ Green

1.04 Ryan Williams

2.02 Vincent Brown

2.05 Shane Vereen

2.08 Vincent Brown

5.05 Colin McCarthy

I later traded 2012 1st and 2nd, spiller, and vereen for brees (qbs get a ton of points in this league). There were actually 2 trades, but that is the virtual trade.

 
12 team ppr idp:1.02 AJ Green1.04 Ryan Williams2.02 Vincent Brown2.05 Shane Vereen2.08 Vincent Brown5.05 Colin McCarthyI later traded 2012 1st and 2nd, spiller, and vereen for brees (qbs get a ton of points in this league). There were actually 2 trades, but that is the virtual trade.
If you feel that your team has a solid chance of winning with the addition of Brees, I like it. Otherwise, that is a lot to give up (but not out of the realm of reason for a top 5 QB).
 
12 team ppr idp:1.02 AJ Green1.04 Ryan Williams2.02 Vincent Brown2.05 Shane Vereen2.08 Vincent Brown5.05 Colin McCarthyI later traded 2012 1st and 2nd, spiller, and vereen for brees (qbs get a ton of points in this league). There were actually 2 trades, but that is the virtual trade.
If you feel that your team has a solid chance of winning with the addition of Brees, I like it. Otherwise, that is a lot to give up (but not out of the realm of reason for a top 5 QB).
Yeah, I am in "win now" mode. My team finished middle of the pack last year, but really underachieved. I think brees could push me to contend.
 
'Sigmund Bloom said:
'anakin said:
12 team PPR X-Men1.08 Williams, Ryan ARI RB 2.08 Smith, Torrey BAL WR3.08 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB4.08 Lewis, Dion PHI RB 5.08 Carter, Bruce DAL LB 6.02 McCarthy, Colin TEN LB 6.08 Roberts, Andre ARI WR 14 team PPR Fin's2.08 Salas, Greg STL WR 3.01 Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB3.02 Jones, Taiwan OAK RB 3.05 Young, Titus DET WR
Ryan Williams at 1.8 is a dream scenario, lucky you. Can't get excited about Smith, wonder if I have underrated Doss because I actually think he's a more natural receiver and almost as fast. Gabbert is underrated, as I said, above, really warming to him at QB2 - although I see in a 12 teamer how the QBs can slide, everyone should be feeling pretty good about their QBs right now. Lewis is consistent value at the end of the third RB tier as I said, could have a Mike Goodson mini-breakout if McCoy misses time. Carter at 5.8 is just silly unless you only start 2 LBs.Like the haul in the 14 teamer a lot - Jones is a real fun upside gamble, could be the next Charles
The X-Men draft was about handcuffing as I am a Beanie Wells owner, a Garrard owner, and a McCoy owner. I like Torrey Smith as my 5/6 WR behind B-Marsh, Collie, Garcon, Decker/Royal.We only start 2 LBs but already have DJ Williams, Ruud, and Clay.Fin's league was also about handcuffing as I have Garrard and D-Mac/M Bush. I love the potential of Salas and Young. Thanks for the nice comments kid :thumbup:
 

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