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dhockster said:
I listened to Fragile by Yes in the car today for the first time in forever. Great Album, Great Sound.

I would maintain that the 5 albums that epitomize the Yes sound were: The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, Fragile, Relayer, and Tales from Topographical Oceans.

How would you rank those 5 albums for personal enjoyment?

My rankings would be:

1. Relayer

2. The Yes Album

3. Close to the Edge

4. Fragile

5. Tales from Topographical Oceans
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My least favorite Yes album is "Tales". Other than that I think I can listen to any other with equal enjoyment. My all-time favorite Yes song is The Awaken from "Going For The One".

I have "Fragile" in DVD-A format. Just phenomenal cranked up on a big system.

 
Amused to Death said:
dhockster said:
I listened to Fragile by Yes in the car today for the first time in forever. Great Album, Great Sound.

I would maintain that the 5 albums that epitomize the Yes sound were: The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, Fragile, Relayer, and Tales from Topographical Oceans.

How would you rank those 5 albums for personal enjoyment?

My rankings would be:

1. Relayer

2. The Yes Album

3. Close to the Edge

4. Fragile

5. Tales from Topographical Oceans
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My least favorite Yes album is "Tales". Other than that I think I can listen to any other with equal enjoyment.
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Tales is my least favorite from those five, but it's still pretty darn good, albeit pretty excessive. And it's still better than most of what they released post-1975, except for the three main Rabin albums (90125, BG and Talk) and maybe Drama. Like you, I can put those other four in just about any order depending on my mood, although most days Close to the Edge and The Yes Album are 1a and 1b.

 
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dhockster said:
I listened to Fragile by Yes in the car today for the first time in forever. Great Album, Great Sound.

I would maintain that the 5 albums that epitomize the Yes sound were: The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, Fragile, Relayer, and Tales from Topographical Oceans.

How would you rank those 5 albums for personal enjoyment?

My rankings would be:

1. Relayer

2. The Yes Album

3. Close to the Edge

4. Fragile

5. Tales from Topographical Oceans
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Hard for me to rank, I like them all plus a couple of others.

I was lucky enough to see them live about 10 years ago with the Howe/Wakeman lineup. Awesome show, the bass on Heart Of The Sunrise was shaking the rafters.

 
Steven Wilson's next album planned for early 2015 release. Same band as "Raven" according to an August 2nd tweet posted on his website.

For the past few months I’ve been working hard on my next album, and will continue through until towards the end of the year for a release early in 2015 (but we’ll bring you some previews before that). I won’t say too much about it now, just that it’s another project where the music, story, and visuals all work together, and that we’re trying to raise the bar again. Pretentious, and proudly so!

 
My niece's boyfriend is a phenomenal Jazz guitarist. He has been working on his first album for several years and it's coming out soon. I joke with him that most 20-year-olds put out a punk album that they record in 45 minutes but he had to spend three years on his album since it's a prog rocker.

He is just a college kid but had the chutzpah to ask Colin Edwin of Porcupine Tree to play bass and to everyone's astonishment he said yes.

My niece does some vocals and plays violin on the album.

They call the group "Ghost Medicine." Here's a promo video they put out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5_AGBtQxk

 
worrierking said:
My niece's boyfriend is a phenomenal Jazz guitarist. He has been working on his first album for several years and it's coming out soon. I joke with him that most 20-year-olds put out a punk album that they record in 45 minutes but he had to spend three years on his album since it's a prog rocker.

He is just a college kid but had the chutzpah to ask Colin Edwin of Porcupine Tree to play bass and to everyone's astonishment he said yes.

My niece does some vocals and plays violin on the album.

They call the group "Ghost Medicine." Here's a promo video they put out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5_AGBtQxk
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Keep us posted.

I have listened to Opeth's new album and I'm liking it more than Heritage. No death growls or death metal parts. Much better to my ears I must say, but I am reading fans are not happy they keep trying something new.

 
worrierking said:
My niece's boyfriend is a phenomenal Jazz guitarist. He has been working on his first album for several years and it's coming out soon. I joke with him that most 20-year-olds put out a punk album that they record in 45 minutes but he had to spend three years on his album since it's a prog rocker.

He is just a college kid but had the chutzpah to ask Colin Edwin of Porcupine Tree to play bass and to everyone's astonishment he said yes.

My niece does some vocals and plays violin on the album.

They call the group "Ghost Medicine." Here's a promo video they put out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5_AGBtQxk
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:thumbup: Would like to hear the finished product. Awesome that they got Colin Edwin to contribute.

 
ATC1 said:
I have listened to Opeth's new album and I'm liking it more than Heritage. No death growls or death metal parts. Much better to my ears I must say, but I am reading fans are not happy they keep trying something new.
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I have no complaints that its all prog and really no metal. Just hope they keep some of the death metal in their live shows. Pale Communion is getting better with each listen.

 
Amused to Death said:
ATC1 said:
I have listened to Opeth's new album and I'm liking it more than Heritage. No death growls or death metal parts. Much better to my ears I must say, but I am reading fans are not happy they keep trying something new.
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I have no complaints that its all prog and really no metal. Just hope they keep some of the death metal in their live shows. Pale Communion is getting better with each listen.
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Saw a fairly recent clip where they were doing stuff from the first few albums so it's still a go live if not studio. Got to be hard to maintain that kind of voice into one's 40's.

 
worrierking said:
My niece's boyfriend is a phenomenal Jazz guitarist. He has been working on his first album for several years and it's coming out soon. I joke with him that most 20-year-olds put out a punk album that they record in 45 minutes but he had to spend three years on his album since it's a prog rocker.

He is just a college kid but had the chutzpah to ask Colin Edwin of Porcupine Tree to play bass and to everyone's astonishment he said yes.

My niece does some vocals and plays violin on the album.

They call the group "Ghost Medicine." Here's a promo video they put out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5_AGBtQxk
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Teaser sounds fantastic, definitely keep us posted

 
Anyone else catching King Crimson on this little U.S. tour they got going? I was at the Philly show last night (Verizon Hall at the Kimmel Center) - 3rd 4th night of the tour. Robert Fripp never ceases to amaze how he can keep re-inventing the Crim. This new lineup is 7 pieces with 3 drummers. Mel Collins is back playing sax and flute as is long time member Tony Levin.

I won't try to describe it or do a show review, just suffice to say it was amazing. This time around they sound much closer to the classic '70s shows than they do the '90s or the '00s. I selected a '74 show for my hour-long drive home, and it everything about that show sounded like it could have been from last night (well, except the violin parts would have been sax or flute ;-)

The triple drums were fascinating to watch, especially Pat Mastelotto. Watching him was a show within a show!

 
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ATC1 said:
Riverside fans. Lunatic Soul about to release it's 4th album Oct 13th. Pretty good stuff. It really is great to listen to late at night. I'm a fan.... in that I put on Lunatic Soul and some candle light and Mrs. ATC is helpless. :pickle:

New Song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dIoBU-mJ64

First album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhZwaqYpTuA
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:thumbup: Didn't know anything about this Duda side project till I visted their website a week or so ago. Listened to the "Impressions" album via Spotify. Very nice and mellow, a lot like God Is An Astronaut.

 
Some limited Crimson's on iTunes now. "Court", "Lark's Tongues" and "Red". Just grabbed "Red" as its one I've only owned on vinyl. The download comes with 3 live tunes from the '74 tour. Some of the best KC ever.

 
King Crimson stuff usually falls under three categories for me:

1. Songs that are totally great and I can listen to any time. They have probably 6-10 songs like that.

2. Songs that I acknowledge are good, but am rarely in the mood for. They have a few dozen like that.

3. Songs that sound like unlistenable noodling/crap/noise. They have a lot of songs like that.

So yeah, when they are good, they are really good, but when they are bad, they are really bad.

 
I think it's time to stop calling this type of operatic rock genre "progressive" in this millennium. It's either "Math Rock", or "Dream Theater's Legacy of Bloated Modes and Scales".

 
Ghost Rider said:
King Crimson stuff usually falls under three categories for me:

1. Songs that are totally great and I can listen to any time. They have probably 6-10 songs like that.

2. Songs that I acknowledge are good, but am rarely in the mood for. They have a few dozen like that.

3. Songs that sound like unlistenable noodling/crap/noise. They have a lot of songs like that.

So yeah, when they are good, they are really good, but when they are bad, they are really bad.
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I never think they're "bad" but for me there are 5 essential KC albums: Lark's Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, Red, Discipline and Three of a Perfect Pair. Gonna guess the first 3 of those fall under your unlistenable category (unless you mean their monotonous '90s stuff).

 
Yes

Genesis

King Crimson

Rush

Jethro Tull

Kansas

Moody Blues

Todd Rundgren's Utopia

I love em. I listen to them still - all the time. Not exclusively, by a long shot, but this stuff is still what I like to put on when I have want to get lost in the music for long periods of time.

 
Amused to Death said:
Ghost Rider said:
King Crimson stuff usually falls under three categories for me:

1. Songs that are totally great and I can listen to any time. They have probably 6-10 songs like that.

2. Songs that I acknowledge are good, but am rarely in the mood for. They have a few dozen like that.

3. Songs that sound like unlistenable noodling/crap/noise. They have a lot of songs like that.

So yeah, when they are good, they are really good, but when they are bad, they are really bad.
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I never think they're "bad" but for me there are 5 essential KC albums: Lark's Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, Red, Discipline and Three of a Perfect Pair. Gonna guess the first 3 of those fall under your unlistenable category (unless you mean their monotonous '90s stuff).
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To me, their essential albums are the debut, Red, Discipline and The Power to Believe.

I never quite got the love for Larks'. Even the one song on there I really like, The Talking Drum, is ruined by that ending (screeching violins like that are annoying).

Red is basically the same style, but far better.

 
ATC1 said:
Haken coming out with a EP as a restoration on there Demo releases. They released the 1st song. They were quoted that the song is half as long version after cutting away "all the excess fat". While the new EP is produced better, I have to clearly admit that I am a prog chubby chaser. :porked:

Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEK0JLB8O2U

New: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHlHs17dQY8

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Another,Crystallised.19 minutes of bliss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9Wk96yzBY

Love this!

 
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Ghost Rider said:
Amused to Death said:
Ghost Rider said:
King Crimson stuff usually falls under three categories for me:

1. Songs that are totally great and I can listen to any time. They have probably 6-10 songs like that.

2. Songs that I acknowledge are good, but am rarely in the mood for. They have a few dozen like that.

3. Songs that sound like unlistenable noodling/crap/noise. They have a lot of songs like that.

So yeah, when they are good, they are really good, but when they are bad, they are really bad.
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I never think they're "bad" but for me there are 5 essential KC albums: Lark's Tongues, Starless and Bible Black, Red, Discipline and Three of a Perfect Pair. Gonna guess the first 3 of those fall under your unlistenable category (unless you mean their monotonous '90s stuff).
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To me, their essential albums are the debut, Red, Discipline and The Power to Believe.

I never quite got the love for Larks'. Even the one song on there I really like, The Talking Drum, is ruined by that ending (screeching violins like that are annoying).

Red is basically the same style, but far better.
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To me, LTiA/S&BB/Red is like a trilogy meant to be listened to in order; one progresses into the next. Lark's would be the weakest stand-alone of the 3 though. Admittedly I haven't listened to "Power" very much although I do have it. I think I was kinda burned out on that Belew/electronica sound that I felt was getting tired after Thrak & ConstruKction of Light. Although I really like the live release, Heavy ConstruKction.

 
New Steven Wilson coming in early March. :pickle: Hand. Cannot. Erase. I'll probably have to spring for the overpriced packaging because it sounds pretty cool.

Some videos here with lots of samples of the new tunes. UK & European tour dates announced - looks like spring/summer for U.S.

Opeth w/ In Flames next week in Philly! :headbang:

 
Amused to Death said:
New Steven Wilson coming in early March. :pickle: Hand. Cannot. Erase. I'll probably have to spring for the overpriced packaging because it sounds pretty cool.

Some videos here with lots of samples of the new tunes. UK & European tour dates announced - looks like spring/summer for U.S.
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Now with U.S. Tour dates.

“We are currently developing a show that I hope will raise the bar both musically and visually from previous tours, with a set list based around the new album, as well as casting the net further back into my songwriting past for a few surprises” – Steven Wilson

 
Amused to Death said:
Anyone else catching King Crimson on this little U.S. tour they got going? I was at the Philly show last night (Verizon Hall at the Kimmel Center) - 3rd 4th night of the tour. Robert Fripp never ceases to amaze how he can keep re-inventing the Crim. This new lineup is 7 pieces with 3 drummers. Mel Collins is back playing sax and flute as is long time member Tony Levin.

I won't try to describe it or do a show review, just suffice to say it was amazing. This time around they sound much closer to the classic '70s shows than they do the '90s or the '00s. I selected a '74 show for my hour-long drive home, and it everything about that show sounded like it could have been from last night (well, except the violin parts would have been sax or flute ;-)

The triple drums were fascinating to watch, especially Pat Mastelotto. Watching him was a show within a show!
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I'm listening to Live at the Orpheum now. It's King Crimson's official release from the 2014 tour, recorded Sep 30-Oct 1 in Los Angeles. It's an interesting evolution of the band. I agree it harkens back to the original incarnation much more than the band with Adrian Belew.

I'm sure the three drummer front line was awesome in concert but in some ways, it's a distraction on record. There aren't (m)any other bands with three drummers and if you have that many drummers, you have to use them. So there is a lot going on rhythmically. They're also quite forward in the mix so at times there's a wall of percussion between the listener and the song. Jakko Jakszyk has a good enough voice but King Crimson has never really been about the singing.

I don't want to come as too negative. The musicianship is outstanding and the album is definitely a worthwhile listen. I appreciate Fripp's constant reimagining of the band and its old material.

 
Gavin Harrison is releasing a new solo album, Cheating the Polygraph, of re-worked Porcupine Tree tunes. From his Facebook page:

Gavin Harrison has a new solo album out soon. Gavin broke the news via his Facebook page. "My new album will be released early April (Kscope records). Amazing arrangements of many of my favourite Porcupine Tree songs. I've been working on this for 5 years and it features some of the World's best contemporary Jazz players."

 
Rush announced their R40 tour dates. From the press release:

After 40 years together and 20 gold and platinum studio albums – Rush is ready to celebrate with the most loyal fans in the world by embarking on their 21st tour, one which will most likely be their last major tour of this magnitude. Celebrate four decades of music with three incredible musicians – all in 1 night.

 
"Love, Fear and the Time Machine" - this is the title of the sixth Riverside album. The band has just finished composing the new material.
"Our sixth album, six words in the title, sixty minutes of new music, that's about how long the new release will be. And we won't be playing hard rock anymore", Mariusz Duda laughs. "There will be many more melodies dressed in completely different shades. We're changing and evolving as a band, we're growing up but most of all we want to keep recording different albums which are simply great to listen to. And the new one will be like a deep breath of fresh air, very different to what we'd done before."

"Love, fear and the times that have shaped us have the biggest influence on our life choices. The lyrics will be about everything that pushes us to make the most important decisions in our life."

The band is going to start recording the new material in March and it will be possible to follow the progress of their work on a special Instagram profile (www.instagram.com/riversideband.pl). The album will be released in August/September 2015 and some of the new songs will be played at this year's summer festivals. More information will follow soon…

Here's hoping for some U.S. dates in the near future. It'll be interesting to hear their new musical direction.

 
Hey prog rock nerds, where do you think Soft Machine ranks within the prog rock pantheon? Generally speaking I find prog rock tough to digest, but I love Soft Machine. I also love King Crimson, a lot of Yes, Procal Harum and The Strawbs ... And early Genesis in small doses

Beyond this, it jumps Rushes off a cliff.

 
Amused to Death said:
Steven Wilson's sound cloud page streaming "First Regret/3 Years Older" from the forthcoming "Hand.Cannot.Erase"

:pickle: :bow:
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My body is ready. Pretty much everything Steven Wilson touches these days turns to gold. :tebow: :tebow:

Mister CIA said:
Hey prog rock nerds, where do you think Soft Machine ranks within the prog rock pantheon? Generally speaking I find prog rock tough to digest, but I love Soft Machine. I also love King Crimson, a lot of Yes, Procal Harum and The Strawbs ... And early Genesis in small doses

Beyond this, it jumps Rushes off a cliff.
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I'm actually not familiar with them at all. I know of them, but have never had the urge to check them out.

 
Mister CIA said:
Hey prog rock nerds, where do you think Soft Machine ranks within the prog rock pantheon? Generally speaking I find prog rock tough to digest, but I love Soft Machine. I also love King Crimson, a lot of Yes, Procal Harum and The Strawbs ... And early Genesis in small doses

Beyond this, it jumps Rushes off a cliff.
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Can't answer your question but I should give them a listen. The only things I know about SM is that Daevid Allen, Andy Summers and Allan Holdsworth were all in the band during some point of its history. We all know Summers from the Police, but Daevid Allen left to form Gong - a total mind f*%k of a band. Weirdest band I've ever heard, and I've seen them live a few times. Youtube 'em!

 
Amused to Death said:
Mister CIA said:
Hey prog rock nerds, where do you think Soft Machine ranks within the prog rock pantheon? Generally speaking I find prog rock tough to digest, but I love Soft Machine. I also love King Crimson, a lot of Yes, Procal Harum and The Strawbs ... And early Genesis in small doses

Beyond this, it jumps Rushes off a cliff.
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Can't answer your question but I should give them a listen. The only things I know about SM is that Daevid Allen, Andy Summers and Allan Holdsworth were all in the band during some point of its history. We all know Summers from the Police, but Daevid Allen left to form Gong - a total mind f*%k of a band. Weirdest band I've ever heard, and I've seen them live a few times. Youtube 'em!
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Without overthinking the matter, I've always regarded Soft Machine as the original source of prog rock (as if anyone is truly the source of something new in music). Slightly All The Time and Moon in June are my two favorites. If you go digging deeper, be prepared for lots of hits and misses.

The quintessential - Third

 
As is the case with many groups in the genre, the difference between Soft Machine and good prog is the difference between riffing and writing.

 
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More Soft Machine

Out of Season ... Not sure if all the original band members were playing here (I suspect not), but I love this song.

Riffing - circa 1968. According to the comments these guys opened for Hendrix back in the day.

 
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