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"Critics think that the genre was an embarrassing dead end. So why do fans and musicians still love it?"

Because fans and musicians know what good music is, while critics are egg-head morons who have disliked most of rock's greats at one point or another (except for Dylan and Springsteen, who they ejaculate over no matter what they release).  

 
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Ghost Rider said:
"Critics think that the genre was an embarrassing dead end. So why do fans and musicians still love it?"

Because fans and musicians know what good music is, while critics are egg-head morons who have disliked most of rock's greats at one point or another (except for Dylan and Springsteen, who they ejaculate over no matter what they release).  
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I remember Rolling Stone dismissing most punk and alternative music too, and then decades later changing their tune as they finally caught up with the fans.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
I remember Rolling Stone dismissing most punk and alternative music too, and then decades later changing their tune as they finally caught up with the fans.
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Rolling Stone has sucked for as long as I can remember. 

I always wonder, who listens to the opinions of critics anyway?  

 
Ghost Rider said:
Rolling Stone has sucked for as long as I can remember. 

I always wonder, who listens to the opinions of critics anyway?  
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Back before the internet is was hard to preview anything except "radio-friendly" music, so sometimes I went by reviews in mags like Creem & Trouser Press to decide what new music to buy. Even though they had better taste than RS, I still got roped into buying the occasional crapfest.

 
Amused to Death said:
Yeah Philly had a curfew as well.  Great show, but my brother saw them the night before in Baltimore (9:30 Club) and I'd would have preferred that set list (This Strange Engine, Wave>Mad). Still overall a great show.  My first time seeing them in a long time.

My first Marillion was also them opening for Rush at the Meadowlands on the MC tour (Rush's Power Windows tour, I believe).  I also caught them at the (old) Ritz in NYC on the Clutching at Straws tour.  I also saw them with Steve at the (new) Ritz in NYC.  Dream Theater opened - it was the final show with their original singer. Turns out that was pretty noteworthy in its own right.

I love the new album but my favorite is the El Dorado suite.
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Saw them tonight with the youngster. I was about 12' from Rothery who looks a bit rough but he was spot on. Good show. It's been about 30 years since I saw them.

 
Rattle and Hum said:
Saw them tonight with the youngster. I was about 12' from Rothery who looks a bit rough but he was spot on. Good show. It's been about 30 years since I saw them.
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Nice.  I was kinda bummed they didn't come within a 6 hour drive for me this time around.  I really like F.E.A.R., their best since Marbles for me.

 
The Steven Wilson remixes of five Yes albums are now up on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/093JGCJ5YMNGFnmsvR9WHt.  I think they were only previously available on hi-def audio formats.

I'm normally not a big fan of album remix/remaster projects because they tamper with my memories.  But I'll make an exception for Relayer which always had a muddy sound to me.  The remix sounds terrific with more clarity and separation between the instruments.

 
Rattle and Hum said:
Marillion Song called Beaujolais Day (Previously Unrealeased) which featured Fish on vocals and was recorded after "Clutching at Straws" so it was never released as he left the band.
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Just rediscovering this thread after a few months.

That "song" has been along for quite a while. It's on the remastered version of Clutching at Straws as a bonus CD. There are quite a few tracks on there where you can hear an interesting mix of music from Season's End (the first Marillion album with H) and lyrics from some of Fish's early solo stuff.

That track has some similar riffs to the single track Season's End.

Also ...

Sunset Hill ... similar riffs to "King of Sunset Town" with some lyrics from Fish's "View From a Hill"

Story From a Thin Wall ... the music of "Berlin" with the lyrics of Fish's "Family Business

Shadows on a Barley ... similar music to "Bell in the Sea" -- which itself is kind of a hidden B track from Season's End

 
I don't even know if you could even classify them as "prog" any more, but ... I saw Styx the other night and one of their two encore songs was "Mr. Roboto", which they are playing on this tour for the first time since the 1980s.

 
Eephus said:
The Steven Wilson remixes of five Yes albums are now up on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/093JGCJ5YMNGFnmsvR9WHt.  I think they were only previously available on hi-def audio formats.

I'm normally not a big fan of album remix/remaster projects because they tamper with my memories.  But I'll make an exception for Relayer which always had a muddy sound to me.  The remix sounds terrific with more clarity and separation between the instruments.
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"The Gates of Delirium" off of Relayer is probably my all-time favorite song. Very interested to see how the re-mix sounds.

 
Dickie Dunn said:
I don't even know if you could even classify them as "prog" any more, but ... I saw Styx the other night and one of their two encore songs was "Mr. Roboto", which they are playing on this tour for the first time since the 1980s.
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Styx often had that prog vibe, but never jumped in the deep end with two feet.  They usually just stuck one foot in for a bit. ;)  

dhockster said:
"The Gates of Delirium" off of Relayer is probably my all-time favorite song. Very interested to see how the re-mix sounds.
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Love that tune! Easily one of my favorites by Yes as well.  It manages to be both chaotic and beautiful. 

Amused to Death said:
New track from The Pineapple Thief, Far Below.  Hearing this kicked off a big TPT run for me.  Been going back to the old albums and appreciating them like its my first time hearing them.  Little Man, 137, Variations on a Dream...awesome stuff!

ETA, the new album will again feature Gavin Harrison on drums   :thumbup:
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Solid band, with some good tunes.  A lot of their stuff is a miss for me, but they definitely have some good songs. 

Tyranny said:
New Track from Dream Theater
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Good song. A new Dream Theater album is always exciting. 

 
The new album is out by the Neal Morse Band and it is terrific.  Not quite as great as its predecessor, The Similitude of a Dream, but still pretty great.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Santana has 3 percussion guys too. Does seem a bit much.
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I get having 2 if you are an older band and the main member cannot do it all anymore (like when Pink Floyd used a 2nd percussionist on their last two tours or like how the Moody Blues have for years), but Gavin Harrison is currently one of King Crimson's three drummers and he is an absolute beast on the drum kit. There is no way a guy like him cannot handle the work by himself. I get if you want to have a fuller sound and need the 2nd guy, maybe, but a 3rd guy? Come on, now. 

 
Binky The Doormat said:
what happens when you need that little extra?

where do you go? 

that's right ...3rd drummer.   
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Nah. 

Then again, while King Crimson has a few albums and songs I love like crazy, I find them way more miss than hit, so I am not someone who will always defend them no matter what (not saying you are).  Give me the Red and Discipline albums and a handful of songs from a few other albums and I have what I need by them. 

 
Ghost Rider said:
Nah. 

Then again, while King Crimson has a few albums and songs I love like crazy, I find them way more miss than hit, so I am not someone who will always defend them no matter what (not saying you are).  Give me the Red and Discipline albums and a handful of songs from a few other albums and I have what I need by them. 
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completely agree.  I was just jackin' around.  

it's that kind of jackassedness that gives progressive rock it's bad rap.  

 
Binky The Doormat said:
completely agree.  I was just jackin' around.  

it's that kind of jackassedness that gives progressive rock it's bad rap.  
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Totally agree. 

A lot of hardcore fans of the genre (see: fans who listen to almost nothing but prog) don't help either.  Don't get me wrong, a lot of my favorite music ever would be called progressive, but I consider myself a fan of music first and foremost. With the exception of rap, hip hop and modern day country, I can listen to just about anything, and do listen to a lot of different stuff.  I can listen to Neal Morse one minute and then Stevie Wonder the next. Variety is the spice of life. :cool:  

 
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Looks like this thread needs a refresher. ;)

New album by Haken coming next month (hopefully, after several delays), and then Neal Morse will be releasing a prog solo album in September.  Very much looking forward to both of those.

 
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Looks like this thread needs a refresher. ;)

New album by Haken coming next month (hopefully, after several delays), and then Neal Morse will be releasing a prog solo album in September.  Very much looking forward to both of those.
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Hey bro, what do you think of Steven's 2 "new" songs? After the masterpiece that was H.C.E. they are a huuuuuuge letdown IMO

 
daddo39 said:
Hey bro, what do you think of Steven's 2 "new" songs? After the masterpiece that was H.C.E. they are a huuuuuuge letdown IMO
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I've only heard Personal Shopper.  I know another was out there briefly a few months back, but I didn't hear it.  Personal Shopper is okay, but definitely not something I am excited about.  And I have no issues whatsoever about SW doing poppy stuff (I loved Permanating), but considering how short the album is, and knowing that Personal Shopper is taking 10 minutes of it, is a bit deflating.  His consistency over the years is staggering (when looking at his main projects - Porcupine Tree and his solo career), so I guess he is long overdue for an average one.

 
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New albums today from Jon Anderson and Steve Howe.

ETA:   looks like the Anderson album came out last year but it shows as new on Spotify :shrug:

 
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Can't recall if anyone here is a fan of the Swedish progressive rock band The Flower Kings, but their new album, Islands, came out a few weeks ago and it is really good.  It's another double album, which makes it their 6th out of 14 studio albums since the mid 90's.  To call this band prolific would be an understatement. 

 
New to this sub forum...I'll prolly look back on previous pages....love finding new bands.  Im going to assume that the band Elder has been mentioned in here at some point.  They have become one of my absolute faves!  They started out more doomy and have become more proggy......10 minute opuses.....they are really, really good!  Id start off with Dead Roots Stirring, which is early stuff, and more doomish, but soooooo good!  Then either Lore or Reflections of a Floating World...... Lore is a prog Guitar marathon.....then there's Omens.....released in April 2020.......this album, in this year, I'm telling you.....it will grow on you.....some don't like Nick Disalvos vocals, but they are perfect for this band, imo....check em out!

 
Ghost Rider said:
As much as I like Kansas, I am not a fan of Lonely Street. I don't think they really figured out how to write a great short song until Leftoverture.  Most of the shorter songs on the first three albums aren't very good, IMO.  I feel that the standouts on all of those are the longer tunes. 
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From seeing a dozen or so shows in the 70's they were so intense live maybe I enjoyed the respites....Great live band.

 
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