Project Titans WRs please (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

Let's assume Vince Young throws for 3200 yards, plays 16 games 200 each game.

Let's also assume Alge and the Tight Ends get 800 of that 3200.

2400 yards left for-

Roydell Williams

Justin Gage

Justin McCareins

Brandon Jones

Byron Ealy

Lavelle Hawkins

Paul Williams

Might as well give Chris Johnson a piece of that 2400 yard pie too

Thanks

 

[cstu]

Yuck.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Yuck.

I can't see any of the WR's getting anything better than 800 and 4 td's. Stay away in redrafts.

 

[T Bell]

Let's assume Vince Young throws for 3200 yards, plays 16 games 200 each game.

Why would we assume this? He increased his completion % to over 62% last year, and upped his yards per attempt .5 from 6.2 to 6.7. Where's the room for improvement, especially with that recieving corps?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I see 3 tiers here for my draft however they are all blank.

 

[bcr8f]

Yuck.

Assume it's the final round of a 32 team 30 round draft. Pick 995.

 

[Bri]

Let's assume Vince Young throws for 3200 yards, plays 16 games 200 each game.

Why would we assume this? He increased his completion % to over 62% last year, and upped his yards per attempt .5 from 6.2 to 6.7. Where's the room for improvement, especially with that recieving corps?

To make this thread about the WRs and not necessarily about Vince. Obviously one catches the ball from the other but....

 

[bcr8f]

From the Tennessean.

 

[T Bell]

Let's assume Vince Young throws for 3200 yards, plays 16 games 200 each game.

Why would we assume this? He increased his completion % to over 62% last year, and upped his yards per attempt .5 from 6.2 to 6.7. Where's the room for improvement, especially with that recieving corps?

To make this thread about the WRs and not necessarily about Vince. Obviously one catches the ball from the other but....

I'm not hijacking the thread asa the performance of the wr's and the qb are 2 sides of the same coin. Wr's can't catch passes that aren't thrown, so if your assumption going in about total yardage in that offense is wrong, then every conclusion based upon that will be too.Personally I'd be amazed if Young can reach 3000 yards this year.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

 

[Bri]

Let's assume Vince Young throws for 3200 yards, plays 16 games 200 each game.

Why would we assume this? He increased his completion % to over 62% last year, and upped his yards per attempt .5 from 6.2 to 6.7. Where's the room for improvement, especially with that recieving corps?

To make this thread about the WRs and not necessarily about Vince. Obviously one catches the ball from the other but....

I'm not hijacking the thread asa the performance of the wr's and the qb are 2 sides of the same coin. Wr's can't catch passes that aren't thrown, so if your assumption going in about total yardage in that offense is wrong, then every conclusion based upon that will be too.Personally I'd be amazed if Young can reach 3000 yards this year.

is that really how you feel about Roydell?You think Gage will get that many yards?interesting, thanks for sharing

 

[travdogg]

I think Young is going to have a big year this year, but outside of Crumpler I don't see any pass catchers of real value.

Maybe there is a 900-6 guy in the bunch but its tough to guess who that may be.

I'll guess Young goes for 3200-22 so:

Gage-700-6

Williams-500-2

McCariens-500-2

Crumpler-600-5

Johnson-400-2

That leaves 5 TD's and 500 yards to be split between Scaife, Jones, Hawkins, White and Williams.

I also wouldn't count out Tennessee adding a guy like Chris Henry to the mix.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

That's pretty generous for a journeyman WR who has a QB who is inconsistent. That also does not factor in them adding Crumpler, McCareins, and Chris Johnson. I just don't see those numbers for Gage or any other Titan WR. I might if he had any upside, but he doesn't.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

People are underestimating Gage, IMO. I can see close to 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

That's pretty generous for a journeyman WR who has a QB who is inconsistent. That also does not factor in them adding Crumpler, McCareins, and Chris Johnson. I just don't see those numbers for Gage or any other Titan WR. I might if he had any upside, but he doesn't.

Are you seriously using McCareins to decrease Gage's targets?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

That's pretty generous for a journeyman WR who has a QB who is inconsistent. That also does not factor in them adding Crumpler, McCareins, and Chris Johnson. I just don't see those numbers for Gage or any other Titan WR. I might if he had any upside, but he doesn't.

Are you seriously using McCareins to decrease Gage's targets?

I'm using all of them.

 

[dmac37]

People are underestimating Gage, IMO. I can see close to 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs.

Not a lock by any means but I agree, Gage is the one that could make a little noise. He was the go to guy for the 2nd half of the year, could continue.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

That's pretty generous for a journeyman WR who has a QB who is inconsistent. That also does not factor in them adding Crumpler, McCareins, and Chris Johnson. I just don't see those numbers for Gage or any other Titan WR. I might if he had any upside, but he doesn't.

Are you seriously using McCareins to decrease Gage's targets?

I'm using all of them.

Sure they have a million WRs there, but the best one last season was Gage. The second best, Roydell Williams, is still bothered by an ankle. The rest are rookies, young no-names or older has-beens. Sure Crumpler and Johnson will take some targets away, but I think that Gage will be the #1 WR easily. He has great size and leaping ability and Young trusts him, evidenced by a team high 45 First Downs last season. I think he's a steal as a WR4 or WR5.

 

[massraider]

People are underestimating Gage, IMO. I can see close to 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs.

Who's gonna catch the other three TD passes? :(

 

[Couch Potato]

People are underestimating Gage, IMO. I can see close to 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs.

I agree people are underestimating him. I'd go a bit lower -- something like 850-6 -- but definitely worth having on your fantasy bench, given how cheaply he can be had.

 

[EBF]

My crystal ball says...

 

[Bri]

Gage-700-6Williams-500-2McCariens-500-2Crumpler-600-5Johnson-400-2

That's probably a fair guess. per game that really stinks. Do you see 80 for this guy, 80 for that guy each week or more like all them having 20-30 yards per week?Why didn't you include Brandon Jones? (curious)

 

[cstu]

Yuck.

Assume it's the final round of a 32 team 30 round draft. Pick 995.

Oh, in that case let me think about it...

 

[BuckeyeArt]

I'm staying FAR FAR away from this mess. I might have taken a shot on Roydell, but he is hurt and who knows when he returns...and he is not starting now. McCareins is a waste. Gage will probably play the slot and pick up 500-600 yards. Brandon Jones has always intrigued me and I will keep an eye on him in preseason, but thus far he has done little. Hawkins is a rookie in an offense that is not a great passing one. They have nobody else that interests me at all.

I don't see anything here at all.

Gage had 36-527-2 last year . . . in the 2nd half. He started 8 of the 16 games, 7 of those starts occurring in the last 8 games. He was used much more in the last 12 games than in the first 4. He also caught 65% of his targets. I can see him between 65-70 catches and 900-1000 yards.

That's pretty generous for a journeyman WR who has a QB who is inconsistent. That also does not factor in them adding Crumpler, McCareins, and Chris Johnson. I just don't see those numbers for Gage or any other Titan WR. I might if he had any upside, but he doesn't.

I don't think 65-70 catches is overly generous. It appears you're giving more weight to his first 4 years in WR hell rather than his last year in Tennessee in labeling him a journeyman. I just think what he did last year, with the same inconsistent QB, is more relevant. I have factored in Crumpler (I don't see him as the team's leading receiver), McCareins (who you called a waste), and Johnson (who will take most of White's, Brown's, and Henry's receptions).

 

[travdogg]

Gage-700-6Williams-500-2McCariens-500-2Crumpler-600-5Johnson-400-2

That's probably a fair guess. per game that really stinks. Do you see 80 for this guy, 80 for that guy each week or more like all them having 20-30 yards per week?Why didn't you include Brandon Jones? (curious)

I didn't include Jones because I think he's clearly a bench player for them. Gage and McCariens are the starters and Williams is their most talented WR(he'd be their #1 if not for his injury) that leaves Jones as their 4th WR and they don't use many 4-wide sets.I kinda see it being like New England was about 4 years ago(although obviously to a lesser degree) where one week it would be Givens, the next Branch, the next Brown. Same here, one week it will be Crumpler, the next Gage etc. etc.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Well, Roydell was just activated from the PUP today so this changes things up for me.

Either he is really, really ready to go...or Coach isn't really thrilled about his WR6/7 competition.

I think it must be the former.

 

[FavreCo]

Easy projection. As a group...worthless with Vince Young at QB.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Gage was actually very productive during the second half in PPR leagues. Nice guy to have for depth, and you just might use him as a #3 more than you think.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

WR

Gage

McCareins

Hawkins*

Jones

R. Williams

P. Williams

Ealy

Production

Gage

Crumpler

Chris Johnson

McCareins

Scaife

 

[gasFace]

Id keep an eye on McCareins

I feel the jets never utilized him right

 

[Bri]

Well, Roydell was just activated from the PUP today so this changes things up for me.Either he is really, really ready to go...or Coach isn't really thrilled about his WR6/7 competition.I think it must be the former.

In the Rams Titans practice/game mid-week, Roydell ran under a 40? 45? yard pass. Lots of reassuring comments after he was able to do that.There were comments like now he has to work on his cutting and shiftiness etc...not out of the woods yet, but he seemed to raise alot of eyebrows on just one play

 

[Bri]

Id keep an eye on McCareinsI feel the jets never utilized him right

I couldn't stand him in NY. He was terrible and I'd be wonderring why the coach didn't play someone else. You may wind up being right. Heimerdinger seems to really like him.I've had a suspicion that the only reason he's so high up the depth chart is because he knows the O and the others don't. He's still doing well though so that's fading. Justin fighting for balls over the middle along with his ability to go deep, would make him a pretty good WR. I guess I'm just skeptical still.

 

[T Bell]

This passing game is so that even this discussion about that passing game is

 

[QuizGuy66]

"One Catch" seems about right for this group.

-QG

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

"One Catch" seems about right for this group.-QG

Gage had 750 yards and 55 catches in, basically, just the last 8 games of last season.Crumpler and Scaife will be fine, for sure.At least one of the other WR will be worth owning at some point, probably McCareins or Jones.

 

[QuizGuy66]

"One Catch" seems about right for this group.-QG

Gage had 750 yards and 55 catches in, basically, just the last 8 games of last season.Crumpler and Scaife will be fine, for sure.At least one of the other WR will be worth owning at some point, probably McCareins or Jones.

I know, it was just too easy a throwaway laugh line to put out there Crumpler's question is whether he's really fully healthy but he certainly is a good TE1 for the late TE drafting crowd.-QG

 

[Bri]

"One Catch" seems about right for this group.-QG

Gage had 750 yards and 55 catches in, basically, just the last 8 games of last season.Crumpler and Scaife will be fine, for sure.At least one of the other WR will be worth owning at some point, probably McCareins or Jones.

I don't know about Scaife in 08. I didn't expect them to draft a TE and sign 2 more, all of whom have looked good at times already. I thought Scaife's development was coming along nicely but the other 3 are a big monkey wrench in those plans now