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Punt and Kickoff Returners 2010 (1 Viewer)

SAN FRANCISCO

Return plans: Sounds like Ted Ginn will be concentrating on one return specialty to go with his role as a wide receiver. "Ted Ginn, I'm not sure how much more I want to see of him (on punt returns), but we'll see," coach Mike Singletary said. "The ideal thing is to use Ted Ginn more in kickoff rather than punt, but we'll let that work itself out." Wide receiver Kyle Williams, who will be out for two weeks with a toe injury sustained against Indianapolis, is a possibility. So is Dominique Zeigler, who had a solid practice Tuesday as a wide receiver.
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HOUSTON

When you’re a sixth-round draft pick, you can’t afford to make the mistakes Trindon Holliday made in his first NFL game Saturday. That’s one of the reasons the former LSU track star and football player said he can’t wait until he and his Houston Texans teammates go against the New Orleans Saints on Saturday night in the Superdome in their second preseason game. Holliday and the Texans worked against the Saints twice Wednesday and he fielded every punt cleanly in the first workout. However, the chance to show the Texans they didn’t make a mistake when they chose him in the April draft can’t come soon enough. “I’m anxious to show the coaches that I’m able to get better from last week,” he said.

In his first game against the Arizona Cardinals, he was more than a little jittery. He caught one punt at the 5-yard line and was dropped for no gain, misjudged another one, and then took a kickoff 5 yards deep in the end zone only to make it back to the 10. “It was just a little bit of nerves for the first NFL game,” Holliday said. “I just have to be calm and be confident in what I’m doing.” The best part about it, he said, was that it was a learning experience. “The biggest thing I learned is you just have to be patient and trust your instincts,” said Holliday, who averaged 21.5 yards on four kickoffs with a long of 30 and one punt for no yards. “I was a little jittery being it was my first game. I just have to stay confident and be ready to go.” On top of that, Holliday is fighting an injury to his left thumb. While that can’t be a good thing for a player who depends on his hands, Holliday said the hand was getting better.

Holliday and Texans special teams coach Joe Marciano, a former Saints assistant under Jim Mora, said it’s all part of growing in the NFL. “Trindon is a young kid who’s very talented and very explosive,” said Marciano, who is in his 25th season as an NFL specials teams coach. “He can win a game for you. He’s going through some growing pains right now, partly because he’s never seen the caliber of punters we have in our game. “But he’s no different than any other rookie trying to learn a position in this league,” he said. “Trindon could wind up being just as good, or better than Tyrone Hughes or Mel Gray — two guys we had in New Orleans.”

Wide receiver Jacoby Jones, the Texans punt returner for the past four seasons, said he knows what Holliday is going through.
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Mike, I appreciate what you do in tracking this stuff. have you given any thought to producing some preseason projections for KR/PR for those of us in leagues that count return yards/TD's? I know projections would be completely subjective, but I'm sure whatever you would come up with would be light years better than mine. I would love to see them incorporated into the PD/DD at some point, but just a standard ranking would help us for now.

 
Rookie WR Antonio Brown will handle kickoff and punt returns against the Giants Saturday night.

rotoworld take....If he does well, specialist Stefan Logan will likely be out of a job. The two are essentially battling for one spot, and Brown's receiving ability gives him the upper hand if the two are close on returns

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10231/10810...id=steelers.xml

 
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Hey all, having a hard time finding out if there is a list of KR/PR for each team. I league awards some decent points, and I want to give a bump to skill positions (no IDP in this league) who also do KR/PR for thier teams.

Thanks!

Cad

 
OrangECrusHeD said:
Here's a good thread that's been running for a while. Has some talk and suggests to find these players:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=520611
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Yeah I read through that thread and it was nice to help target certain players, and it may be best thing out there, but it would just be nice to have a list for each team. Some of the specific links they talk about, I couldn't find either <_< Thanks for the info though!

Cad

 
These jobs are in flux this time of year, often more than starters at other positions.

They also change quite a bit during the season, when somebody underperforms.

That said, there are folks who have a good hold on these jobs, as well.

The thread linked above likely goes into all that in some detail.

The FBG Depth Charts page doesn't break them out individually, but you can locate them by doing text search on "(PR)" or "(KR)".

 
Topes said:
These jobs are in flux this time of year, often more than starters at other positions.

They also change quite a bit during the season, when somebody underperforms.

That said, there are folks who have a good hold on these jobs, as well.

The thread linked above likely goes into all that in some detail.

The FBG Depth Charts page doesn't break them out individually, but you can locate them by doing text search on "(PR)" or "(KR)".
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The close enough, Thanks!Cad

 
Mike Herman said:
Headbutts said:
Isn't there usually a 'Returnerguys' column about this time of year?
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Yes, I submitted a Returnerguys Cheat Sheet. Will let you know when it gets posted.
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Any chance that will get posted today? I have a draft at 6pm tonight.. and we do 1 point per 10 yards for Kick & Punt Returns... so it's important in this league, and I can't find much of anything on PR/KR's aside from "draft Josh Cribbs". Everything else is so conflicting!TIA
 
so is DET Jahvid Best not returning kicks?

Haven't seen much on this and he's not listed on the depth charts. The man should be back there!

 
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footballnerd said:
so is DET Jahvid Best not returning kicks? Haven't seen much on this and he's not listed on the depth charts. The man should be back there!
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If he's going to be their 1st down RB then they want him going into the series fresh, not having just fielded a kick. He may be good at it, but I think they need him for more offensive plays. A 3rd down RB like Darren Sproles can rest a couple of plays before being put back in.
 
BALTIMORE

After his first practice, Ravens cornerback Lardarius Webb said he isn’t rehabbing to come back and play one area of the game. But coach John Harbaugh has other plans for Webb. Harbaugh said Tuesday that Webb’s role will be restricted to defense early and perhaps for the entire season. Webb played a major role on special teams last season, covering punts as the gunner and returning kickoffs. He ranked ninth in the NFL on kickoff returns, averaging 26.2 yards and running one back for 95-yard touchdown. Asked about Webb returning kicks this season, Harbaugh said, “Certainly not early. I really don’t think so this year just coming off an ACL. Now, he’ll be a backup if we have to put him out there. But we have Jalen Parmele and we’ve got some other candidates [for kickoff returns]. I think we’re going to be very cautious with Lardarius that way. He loves to play.” Harbaugh, though, said his stance could change later in the season. “We’re trying to win games,” he said. “But we’re going to err on the side … that we don’t put him at undue risk.”
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HOUSTON

Texans rookie return man Trindon Holliday, the smallest player in this year's NFL draft and one of the fastest, will need season-ending surgery to repair torn ligaments in his thumb. "It looks like he's done," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "[He] can't get it under control, so it has to be fixed." The 5-foot-5 Holliday, a sixth-round draft pick out of LSU who won the NCAA 100-meter championship in 2009, will have surgery Wednesday. The thumb injury bothered him in the Texans' second preseason game, when he dropped two balls.
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Hush! Quit asking for return yards in DD. I'm in a league that gets 1 pt for 20 yds KR/PR and with 4+ folks already using DD this is one of the few ways to gain a good advantage by doing just a little homework! Add return yards and a few TDs as Note 1 in DD-> Set Up. The night before your draft, after updating stat projections the last time (stats tweaks get overwriten, notes do not), tweak your receiving/rushing stats with +TDs and +return yards*50%. Now you're the only one that sees the actual potential of those players.

 
sharkvegas said:
Hush! Quit asking for return yards in DD. I'm in a league that gets 1 pt for 20 yds KR/PR and with 4+ folks already using DD this is one of the few ways to gain a good advantage by doing just a little homework! Add return yards and a few TDs as Note 1 in DD-> Set Up. The night before your draft, after updating stat projections the last time (stats tweaks get overwriten, notes do not), tweak your receiving/rushing stats with +TDs and +return yards*50%. Now you're the only one that sees the actual potential of those players.
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Agree 100%. Have had 2 drafts thus far with nobody else clued in.
 
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HOUSTON

Texans rookie return man Trindon Holliday, the smallest player in this year's NFL draft and one of the fastest, will need season-ending surgery to repair torn ligaments in his thumb. "It looks like he's done," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "[He] can't get it under control, so it has to be fixed." The 5-foot-5 Holliday, a sixth-round draft pick out of LSU who won the NCAA 100-meter championship in 2009, will have surgery Wednesday. The thumb injury bothered him in the Texans' second preseason game, when he dropped two balls.
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Great article today(Returnerguys Cheatsheet). No mention of Johnny Knox,however. Also who do you think likely Houston returner will be?
 
MINNESOTA

Special Teams Coordinator Brian Murphy

Q: With Percy Harvin struggling with the migraine issue, does that reduce the likelihood for him to return kicks?

A: It’s going to have to be a week-to-week decision. His situation isn’t one that you can predict. That’s the reason why we’re trying to rep as many people as we can, to have alternatives. Obviously you want him back there returning kickoffs, but conventional wisdom will tell you that you need an alternative. We’ll continue to rep through, and hopefully Percy comes back as the Percy we know. Until that situation stabilizes itself, you need to keep on bringing people along.

Q: Do you see anybody emerging there that you like?

A: Darius Reynaud’s done it for us. Albert Young had a couple of nice returns the other night. It’s not just the returner, we’ve got to block better, we’ve got to come along better in that portion as well to kind of take the load off the returner. We’ll have guys, we’ll have somebody in there that can return the ball.

Q: Have you been told not to expect Percy to return kicks?

A: I don’t know that it’s going to be an edict. It’s so unpredictable and it’s the guy’s health. We’ll play it by ear and see how we come out of it. I don’t think that anybody’s in a position right now to make a statement, ‘This is what’s got to happen,’ because you don’t know what will happen. I know you want him back there, but his health has got to allow it and right now it’s an unpredictable situation and we’ll make plans accordingly.
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JACKSONVILLE

Jaguars running back Deji Karim had surgery on his left thumb Tuesday and will miss the rest of the preseason. The Jaguars expect Karim back at some point within the first quarter of the season and the rookie running back will play with a cast early in the season. It's possible, though unlikely, he'll be ready in time for the first game of the season. Karim had become an explosive returner for the Jaguars this preseason and the sixth-round draft pick hurt his thumb on a kickoff return late against the Miami Dolphins. Karim had become quite the special teams star for the Jaguars. He had nine kickoff returns for 295 yards in the preseason. His average ranks eighth in the NFL in kickoff returns. Karim's longest was a 68-yarder against the Eagles. Receiver Mike Thomas might see more time back there in his place.
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Macdaddy_2004 said:
Yahoo is projecting 1700 return yards for Davone Bess - Do you see him as the primary KR?
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Don't trust the Miami coaching staff info on their returners. Wait to see results before counting on anyone to do returns.On a side note, I can't believe Bess had 76 receptions last year on 113 targets. Had no idea they used him that much.
 
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JACKSONVILLE

Jaguars running back Deji Karim had surgery on his left thumb Tuesday and will miss the rest of the preseason. The Jaguars expect Karim back at some point within the first quarter of the season and the rookie running back will play with a cast early in the season. It's possible, though unlikely, he'll be ready in time for the first game of the season. Karim had become an explosive returner for the Jaguars this preseason and the sixth-round draft pick hurt his thumb on a kickoff return late against the Miami Dolphins. Karim had become quite the special teams star for the Jaguars. He had nine kickoff returns for 295 yards in the preseason. His average ranks eighth in the NFL in kickoff returns. Karim's longest was a 68-yarder against the Eagles. Receiver Mike Thomas might see more time back there in his place.
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Was Mike Thomas going to do P/Rs? or was Deji Karim expected to be KR/PR? I have Mike Thomas and was hoping for Return yardage out of him.
 
what is DD btw, if you want to message me instead of posting in here thats fine, but if there is another tool/resource, then I would gladly appreciate any help finding it and how to use it!

 
captbly said:
Mike Herman said:
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JACKSONVILLE

Jaguars running back Deji Karim had surgery on his left thumb Tuesday and will miss the rest of the preseason. The Jaguars expect Karim back at some point within the first quarter of the season and the rookie running back will play with a cast early in the season. It's possible, though unlikely, he'll be ready in time for the first game of the season. Karim had become an explosive returner for the Jaguars this preseason and the sixth-round draft pick hurt his thumb on a kickoff return late against the Miami Dolphins. Karim had become quite the special teams star for the Jaguars. He had nine kickoff returns for 295 yards in the preseason. His average ranks eighth in the NFL in kickoff returns. Karim's longest was a 68-yarder against the Eagles. Receiver Mike Thomas might see more time back there in his place.
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Was Mike Thomas going to do P/Rs? or was Deji Karim expected to be KR/PR? I have Mike Thomas and was hoping for Return yardage out of him.
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Karim is KR; McGee PR. McGee and/or Thomas will likely handle kickoffs until Karim is healthy.
 
Jayrod said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Yahoo is projecting 1700 return yards for Davone Bess - Do you see him as the primary KR?
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Don't trust the Miami coaching staff info on their returners. Wait to see results before counting on anyone to do returns.On a side note, I can't believe Bess had 76 receptions last year on 113 targets. Had no idea they used him that much.
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Bess should be PR, while Cobbs and/or Carroll should handle KR.I suspect the Dolphins staff feel a bit guilty about the grief they caused fantasy owners of Ginn last year, and consequently they will be forthcoming with their plans this year and will stick with their initial decisions.
 
NEW ENGLAND

Sure he looked impressive in workouts and practices against his own teammates. But many wondered, as they looked down on their roster sheets, could Brandon Tate be an impact player for the Patriots this season? Could he produce big plays in the return game and be a game-changer? On the first play of Thursday night’s preseason loss to the Rams at Gillette Stadium, they got their answer. Tate was the deep man at the goal line in the south end of the stadium with Sammy Morris, in a mild surprise, serving as the up back and lead blocker. Sure enough, Josh Brown’s kick came to him at the 3 and Tate did the rest of the work from there. He took off up the middle and then, as Morris cut a path off to his right, Tate read the gap perfectly, shot through it as if fired from a starting gun and was off to the races. He easily blew past Brown and scored 12 seconds into the game and scored. “My teammates were the ones blocking so without them it wouldn’t have been possible,” Tate said.

But Tate didn’t stop there. He said he was actually making good on a promise he made to his teammates. “I kept saying, ‘I’m ready…this is going to be the one,’ so all the credit has to go to my teammates.” He also knows that head coach Bill Belichick and the coaching staff, starting with special teams coach Steve O’Brien, believe in the talent he first showed at the University of North Carolina before being drafted in 2009. “Every time I get to go out there and play, I try to put my best foot out there,” he said. “I go out there and compete every play and just play hard.” He nearly made it two consecutive returns to the house after St. Louis kicked off after tying the game, 7-7, in the first quarter. Josh Brown tripped him up at the Patriots 41 after a 43-yard runback. “I know, the kicker got me,” Tate said. “Everyone was laughing because the kicker got me but I tried. It’s alright.” Alright indeed. Tate finished with three kickoff returns and one punt return and a total of 162 return yards.
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talisman said:
what is DD btw, if you want to message me instead of posting in here thats fine, but if there is another tool/resource, then I would gladly appreciate any help finding it and how to use it!
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DD = the Draft Dominator... Footballguys' draft software program.
 
I'm drafting in a league that awards 1 pt. for every 20 return yards... Does anyone have a cheatsheet that shows / ranks the KR / PR positions? Thanks for your help, Sharks!

 
Thanks Larry, Do you know if the "Returnerguys" article has been posted in Premium section? I looked, but I can't find it. And yes, the league is also IDP. I've been playing fantasy for 12 years, and yet this is my first IDP / Return league. Go Figure

 
I can't say I'm on top of all the latest developments, but I'm not 100% if that list is accurate.

buffalo -- you might see mckelvin returning kicks, as he has in the preseason and the past, prior to his injury.

think his preseason average might suck, though.

new england -- I'd have to wonder if they'll have wes returning punts after that knee surgery, and there's a mix of guys returning kicks -- most notable being brandon tate.

dallas - you might be seeing 4th round rookie safety, Owusu-Ansah, returning kicks.

eagles -- that's pretty speculative, as hobbs hasn't been returning kicks for them.

maybe demps on that one, but I think they have a few options.

steelers -- you might want to vet that one out

seattle -- they have a few options, and I'm not sure if wilson has it locked down

 
Leon Washington returned a kick last night, so the coaches might have a little more faith in his knee. I would think that if he's returning kicks, he shoots way up the Returnerguys rankings, no?

 
Maik Jeaunz said:
Leon Washington returned a kick last night, so the coaches might have a little more faith in his knee. I would think that if he's returning kicks, he shoots way up the Returnerguys rankings, no?
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For the moment, the answer is no. I still anticipate he'll be used sparingly on returns, especially early in the year, since he's still coming off a significant injury and the Seahawks have several players that can handle returns effectively. Later in the year or in 2011 could be a different story.
 
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If there was any concern about how small-school product Phillip Adams would handle the bright lights of the NFL, he erased them Saturday night in the second quarter of the 49ers' victory in Oakland. Adams, a seventh-round pick out of South Carolina State, chased down a booming Shane Lechler punt, made one cut and wasn't touched until he was mobbed by teammates in the opposite end zone. Not bad for a guy who wasn't the first – or even the second, third or fourth – choice to return punts for the 49ers and who only started handling them in practice last week. "He did a nice job," coach Mike Singletary said after the game. "It was very nice to see him have the confidence to catch the ball and have the wherewithal to take off up the field and follow his blocking." It was the second consecutive strong performance for Adams, who was drafted to play cornerback. Against Minnesota on Aug. 22, he broke up three passes in the second half. His 83-yard punt return against the Raiders appears to have put him on the verge of landing a roster spot. The 49ers feel they are vastly better at punt returner than they were last year, when they ranked last in returns. However, the position is unsettled at the moment. One of the top candidates, rookie Kyle Williams, is out because of a sprained big toe. Meanwhile, Singletary wants another returner, Ted Ginn Jr., to concentrate on kick returns and receiving. Adams said he dabbled with punt returns as a senior last year, but he seemed to be a natural in Oakland. He fielded three punts for 116 yards and let another bounce into the end zone for a touchback. Said Adams, "I look at it like it's another dimension of my game."
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looks like Ellis Hobbs has not only won the starting RCB job in Philly, he will be the primary kick returner also.

The Eagles confirmed that CB Ellis Hobbs will be used as the primary kickoff returner with DeSean Jackson on punts.

Hobbs has averaged a sterling 27.2 yards per return in his career, and he's returned three kicks for touchdowns in the past four years. Quintin Demps is without a clear role on this team and may be squarely on the roster bubble.
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