QB Jalen Hurts, PHI (2 Viewers)

[Snotbubbles]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

They are there. Jalen isn’t pulling the trigger. There were a bunch against Carolina where he had Davonta and AJ both as open reads and he kept for a two yard run.

They'll need to in the playoffs.

And probably against the PIT D that will focus on the run. PIT can be thrown on. Will be disappointing if they decide to try and constantly pound a square peg in a round hole against the PIT D vs. striking a better balance.

Every team the Eagles face focuses on the run.

 

[fred_1_15301]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

They are there. Jalen isn’t pulling the trigger. There were a bunch against Carolina where he had Davonta and AJ both as open reads and he kept for a two yard run.

They'll need to in the playoffs.

And probably against the PIT D that will focus on the run. PIT can be thrown on. Will be disappointing if they decide to try and constantly pound a square peg in a round hole against the PIT D vs. striking a better balance.

Every team the Eagles face focuses on the run.

But not every team is good at stopping it. Pittsburgh and Baltimore are 2 of the better teams at stopping it. They did a nice job against Baltimore. For the most part the Eagles have faced bottom tier teams against the run (with the exception of Baltimore). @kyoun1e has a good point that in the playoffs that will likely change. With that said, I agree that the Eagles identify on offense is a run heavy team. I don’t think it would be prudent to change things drastically at this point in the season.

 

[Qammy]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

 

[Dizzy]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

Seems like Hurts imploded following that 49ers game last year and never got "it" back.

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

 

[the spanker]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

So true. I don't care if he's throwing passing TDs or running/tush pushing them in, just need those points please.

 

[kyoun1e]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

 

[kyoun1e]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

 

[unckeyherb]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

 

[Qammy]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

When you have the best roster in the NFL every year you are supposed to win the Superbowl
Bradys Pats won because of him
Hurts Eagles win in spite of him
If the Eagles had just Nick Folk quality QB theyd be working on a 3-Peat right now

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

When you have the best roster in the NFL every year you are supposed to win the Superbowl
Bradys Pats won because of him
Hurts Eagles win in spite of him
If the Eagles had just Nick Folk quality QB theyd be working on a 3-Peat right now

All you can ask is to get to the Dance. Eagles have got to the dance every year he is a starter. Including 2021 season ya know before all the talk of "loaded" roster as if thats a bad thing lol.

Tom Brady won his 1st super bowl passing for 145 yards. Was that bc of in spite of him?

Tom Brady lost a Super Bowl passing 500+ yards to...the Eagles

Giants barely got to the dance both times they beat the Pats in the Super Bowl. You know this so I don't know why you are playing dumb considering Eli is going to be the worst QB ever to get into the Hall of Fame but ya know....all you gotta do is get to the dance to get a chance, and he cashed in both times.

Jalen is a winner, I know you hate that fact, but ...its a fact.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

 

[need2know]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

i wonder if they are counting all the throw aways? he has had a ton of those. but he has for sure not taken many shots on deep balls in what feels like forever

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

I was driving home around 6:30 and listening to WIP. I forget the host but he said it multiple times. I have no idea if it was correct but he kept saying it over and over. I was shocked by it.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

i wonder if they are counting all the throw aways? he has had a ton of those. but he has for sure not taken many shots on deep balls in what feels like forever

That could definitely be it. The same host also mentioned that he leads the league in throwaways. Also he has the most time of any QB in the pocket when he steps back to pass. Yet he has the 2nd highest sack %.

 

[eighsse2]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

Noteworthy that the "TD's of 20 yards or more" would mean total yards of the play, while completion % on 20+ yard passes would have to be air yards specifically, different animal.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

Noteworthy that the "TD's of 20 yards or more" would mean total yards of the play, while completion % on 20+ yard passes would have to be air yards specifically, different animal.

Understood but Hurts is an accurate deep ball passer. It’s probably due to what Needtoknow said. He throws the ball away a lot. Either that or the host is just wrong.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

Noteworthy that the "TD's of 20 yards or more" would mean total yards of the play, while completion % on 20+ yard passes would have to be air yards specifically, different animal.

Sure but in order to have a 2% completion percentage on passes of 20+ yards, for every 1 he completes he need to miss on 49 attempts. He's only attempted 325 passes this season.

 

[eighsse2]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

Noteworthy that the "TD's of 20 yards or more" would mean total yards of the play, while completion % on 20+ yard passes would have to be air yards specifically, different animal.

Sure but in order to have a 2% completion percentage on passes of 20+ yards, for every 1 he completes he need to miss on 49 attempts. He's only attempted 325 passes this season.

Completely agree on the notion that the stat sounds downright incorrect.

 

[need2know]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

i wonder if they are counting all the throw aways? he has had a ton of those. but he has for sure not taken many shots on deep balls in what feels like forever

That could definitely be it. The same host also mentioned that he leads the league in throwaways. Also he has the most time of any QB in the pocket when he steps back to pass. Yet he has the 2nd highest sack %.

I would take that over him turning it over. And also its not like many of the teams over the last 10 weeks have forced the eagles to change

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

i wonder if they are counting all the throw aways? he has had a ton of those. but he has for sure not taken many shots on deep balls in what feels like forever

That could definitely be it. The same host also mentioned that he leads the league in throwaways. Also he has the most time of any QB in the pocket when he steps back to pass. Yet he has the 2nd highest sack %.

I would take that over him turning it over. And also its not like many of the teams over the last 10 weeks have forced the eagles to change

The narrative seems to be when/if a team that I guess figures a way to stop Saquon *without* loading the box consistently all game, have the LBs/Edge to keep Jalen's legs in check and ALSO be able to shut down AJ/Smith in the passing game + Jalen not being able to hit them. B/c if you load the box up, eventually Saquon is gonna make it past everyone for a long run or 2 like he did in LA.

OR

You really are letting Devonta/AJB run free with one one one coverage.

Jalen definitely has to make the throws when/if this happens.

 

[unckeyherb]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

Welp, rooting for you and your Eagles (and Hurts of course).

This weekend against PIT will be an interesting test.

Now that I think of it, if Pickens is out, PHI is more likely to keep on doing what they've been doing. They can probably lean on the run and that D. I can't see R. Wilson minus Pickens doing much.

I think Jalen will probably feed AJ a little more than the last two weeks but I’d caution people thinking he’s going to have a 10/150/2 stat line.

I don’t expect that Steelers offense to put up more than 14-18 points against the birds defense.

Saquon needs like 425 yards to break the record. That o line looks at it like it’s their record too (as well as validation that Stoutland is the best oline coach in the game). The oline is why they run as much as they do now-they collectively went to Nick over the bye and pushed him to run more. They haven’t lost since.

I expect a heavy dose of rushing and relying on the defense to close out any scoring opportunities for the Steelers. This may be a game where AJ gets like 6/100/1. I’d be surprised if it’s more than that.

Jmo

If there was a prop bet (maybe there is), Eagles first play of the game, I'd put money on a pass to AJB.

I hope so and I hope it’s forced regardless of coverage. I’m sure the Steelers brass have been paying attention to what’s been going on in Philly this week.

Don't you remember what happened last time the Steelers tried to cover AJB?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28418695.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/2_image-1.jpg

Yes because nothing at all has changed since that game 2 plus years ago.

I was driving home yesterday evening and one of the hosts cited this stat: Hurts’s completion % on 20+ yard passes is 2% (worst in the league). I never would have guessed that given his weapons and how he’s always been a very good deep ball passer.

Don't think that 2% number is correct. He has 7 TDs of 20 yards or more this season and his advanced metrics in IAY and CAY are nearly identical to his 2022 season when he was an MVP candidate.

I was driving home around 6:30 and listening to WIP. I forget the host but he said it multiple times. I have no idea if it was correct but he kept saying it over and over. I was shocked by it.

It was in a specific context. I think it was in reference to when Jalen has four or more seconds from snap to pass. It’s not his overall percentage. Prior to the last two weeks the Eagles had more explosive plays (plays of 30 yards or more) than any other teams.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

When you have the best roster in the NFL every year you are supposed to win the Superbowl
Bradys Pats won because of him
Hurts Eagles win in spite of him
If the Eagles had just Nick Folk quality QB theyd be working on a 3-Peat right now

This made your shtick so much better.

 

[need2know]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

Imagine having the best Oline, RB and WR/TE group in the NFL and still having a clunky passing game ????
I wonder what the problem could be???

My favorite is this is coming from a Giants fan who very publicly was all about Daniel Jones in here and Cowboys fans liking it lmao.

11-2 this year, teams made the playoffs every year he’s been the starter.

Talk about 1st world problems when nitpicking Wins is the worst thing happening in the midst of a 9-game winning streak.

I'm not an eagle's fan, but I own Hurts.

From a fan perspective, I know the team is 11-2, but that's all fine and good until you have to throw to win...when it counts. Don't you think it behooves K. Moore to add some deeper shots to the arsenal? Wouldn't this open up the offense even more and make the team that more dangerous? Prior to the playoffs, as a fan, I'd want Hurts more confident doing this.

Now as an owner of Hurts, I don't care how he gets his points, but I do fear whether it's this week or next or the week after, those tush pushes finally dry up, they continue to throw 20-22 times, and I'm left with < 10 points in the fantasy playoffs.

All that said, something tells me that this week, against a stout PIT D, Hurts and company put this all to bed and the squeaky wheel gets greased with a long TD to AJ Brown.

Yeah having a top defense definitely gives you much more margin for error here for the bolded.

Bottom 10 defense? Yeah, you better be able to throw to win.

Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl throwing for 145 yards against a team that most at the time probably though "Gotta throw to win" to Beat (Greatest Show on Turf Rams)

Tom Brady set the Super Bowl record for passing yards against my Eagles and lost.

My Eagles just lost to the Super Bowl 2 years ago to the Chiefs in a game where Mahomes threw for under 190 yards.

I think you are going to be fine, Jalen hasn't had a game lower than 10 points in the past 2 seasons.

When you have the best roster in the NFL every year you are supposed to win the Superbowl
Bradys Pats won because of him
Hurts Eagles win in spite of him
If the Eagles had just Nick Folk quality QB theyd be working on a 3-Peat right now

This made your shtick so much better.

Thats a whamy from quamy

 

[Faust]

Jalen Hurts' best plays from 3-TD game vs. Steelers | Week 15

 

[travdogg]

This is what the passing game can be every week, if they would just embrace that. I mean, this was against the best pass rush in the NFL. Brown/Smith should never combine for less than 15 targets, and Hurts doesn't NEED to be protected.

 

[need2know]

This is what the passing game can be every week, if they would just embrace that. I mean, this was against the best pass rush in the NFL. Brown/Smith should never combine for less than 15 targets, and Hurts doesn't NEED to be protected.

they showed a taste. After pit proved toothless. they pulled back.

 

[ShamrockPride]

The big question now fantasy wise, was this status a 1 week show just to silence the press?

I have Darnold as my backup, and there's no Saquon on Minnesota. But if Jalen is going to be passing again, he's a must start, even over Darnold.

 

[kyoun1e]

The big question now fantasy wise, was this status a 1 week show just to silence the press?

I have Darnold as my backup, and there's no Saquon on Minnesota. But if Jalen is going to be passing again, he's a must start, even over Darnold.

I'd think they'd want to keep it rolling and have some semblance of balance so they can maintain it through the playoffs.

 

[Terpman22]

The big question now fantasy wise, was this status a 1 week show just to silence the press?

I have Darnold as my backup, and there's no Saquon on Minnesota. But if Jalen is going to be passing again, he's a must start, even over Darnold.

I think you have to understand the fact his best "fantasy stats" have come during this more run heavy approach since the bye week.

Weeks 1-4 QB7 21.7 PPG
Since the bye: QB3 only behind Allen and Lamar at 26.77 PPG

Hurts has 4 30+ Fantasy games and they have all come in the last 8 weeks, including yesterday.

The next 2 opponents the Eagles face are the Commanders and Cowboys

Commanders Defense Ranks: 13th overall, 4th against the pass, 26th against the run
Cowboys Defense Ranks: 26th oerall, 22nd against the pass, 29th against the run

Should produce you some points if you are in the playoffs and starting Jalen Hurts.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Hurts is concussed and ruled out @WSH with only 40 rushing yards to his name, changing fortunes for many FF playoff teams in the first quarter.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Hurts is concussed and ruled out @WSH with only 40 rushing yards to his name, changing fortunes for many FF playoff teams in the first quarter.

Every. Freaking. Year.

 

[travdogg]

No player likely swings more weeks this week. Especially as it looked like he was gonna have a huge game. 2nd time this year, a QB runs for 40+ yards and then get knocked out in the beginning of the game, as Daniels did it against Carolina.

 

[kyoun1e]

Absolutely brutal.

You need to be skillfull to get to the playoffs, but you need some luck to win it. This is not the luck we were looking for.

 

[Faust]

Jeff McLane
#Eagles HC Nick Sirianni confirmed that QB Jalen Hurts is in concussion protocol.

x.com

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[pinequick]

Need some advice, folks. I'm in the 2-week championship game, 1st half (Week 16) is in the books. I have a comfortable lead at half.

Hurts is my starting QB. Caleb Williams is the backup (who plays Thursday night). What do YOU do this week?

1. Start Williams, get *some* points for sure.
2. Start Hurts, risk the bagel, but higher payoff (probably).

I know that this is an Assistant Coach question, but cut a guy some slack. It's the championship. TIA.

 

[Faust]

Adam Schefter
Eagles QB Jalen Hurts did not practice today due to his concussion.

x.com

x.com

 

[Mitchie]

find it interesting point spread is 8.5 w/o knowing if Hurts is playing, and Pickett also a bit up in the air. seems like there's big difference between Hurts and Pickett and also even though Pickett not very good between Pickett and the 3rd string guy

 

[travdogg]

find it interesting point spread is 8.5 w/o knowing if Hurts is playing, and Pickett also a bit up in the air. seems like there's big difference between Hurts and Pickett and also even though Pickett not very good between Pickett and the 3rd string guy

I don't think there is a big difference between Pickett and McKee. I think a lot of Eagles fans would prefer McKee to be the #2.

 

[Mitchie]

find it interesting point spread is 8.5 w/o knowing if Hurts is playing, and Pickett also a bit up in the air. seems like there's big difference between Hurts and Pickett and also even though Pickett not very good between Pickett and the 3rd string guy

I don't think there is a big difference between Pickett and McKee. I think a lot of Eagles fans would prefer McKee to be the #2.

ok fair enough but still don't see how there can be a spread w/o knowing who the QB is.

 

[travdogg]

find it interesting point spread is 8.5 w/o knowing if Hurts is playing, and Pickett also a bit up in the air. seems like there's big difference between Hurts and Pickett and also even though Pickett not very good between Pickett and the 3rd string guy

I don't think there is a big difference between Pickett and McKee. I think a lot of Eagles fans would prefer McKee to be the #2.

ok fair enough but still don't see how there can be a spread w/o knowing who the QB is.

I would be taking the current spread as assuming Hurts is playing. Him not practicing on Wednesday isn't really important. Pretty much nobody who has left with a concussion has practiced until usually Thursday at the earliest, but usually Friday. I've seen nothing yet to suggest Hurts isn't going to play.

 

[dblock05]

Need some advice, folks. I'm in the 2-week championship game, 1st half (Week 16) is in the books. I have a comfortable lead at half.

Hurts is my starting QB. Caleb Williams is the backup (who plays Thursday night). What do YOU do this week?

1. Start Williams, get *some* points for sure.
2. Start Hurts, risk the bagel, but higher payoff (probably).

I know that this is an Assistant Coach question, but cut a guy some slack. It's the championship. TIA.

If you are still wondering, there is a 60-70% chance he isn’t playing. You need to pivot to another option. If Caleb W is your best option then you have to play him tomorrow night unless Hurts has a limited practice Thursday AM

 

[need2know]

Need some advice, folks. I'm in the 2-week championship game, 1st half (Week 16) is in the books. I have a comfortable lead at half.

Hurts is my starting QB. Caleb Williams is the backup (who plays Thursday night). What do YOU do this week?

1. Start Williams, get *some* points for sure.
2. Start Hurts, risk the bagel, but higher payoff (probably).

I know that this is an Assistant Coach question, but cut a guy some slack. It's the championship. TIA.

If you are still wondering, there is a 60-70% chance he isn’t playing. You need to pivot to another option. If Caleb W is your best option then you have to play him tomorrow night unless Hurts has a limited practice Thursday AM

And if he plays he prob leaves as soon as eagles go up. Prob good to pivet

 

[eighsse2]

Need some advice, folks. I'm in the 2-week championship game, 1st half (Week 16) is in the books. I have a comfortable lead at half.

Hurts is my starting QB. Caleb Williams is the backup (who plays Thursday night). What do YOU do this week?

1. Start Williams, get *some* points for sure.
2. Start Hurts, risk the bagel, but higher payoff (probably).

I know that this is an Assistant Coach question, but cut a guy some slack. It's the championship. TIA.

If you are still wondering, there is a 60-70% chance he isn’t playing. You need to pivot to another option. If Caleb W is your best option then you have to play him tomorrow night unless Hurts has a limited practice Thursday AM

And if he plays he prob leaves as soon as eagles go up. Prob good to pivet

I doubt the Eagles are worried about him, he just has to pass protocol, right? Don't see why they'd pull him mid-game unless it's a bloodbath in the fourth quarter where they'd pull starters anyway.

 

[eighsse2]

find it interesting point spread is 8.5 w/o knowing if Hurts is playing, and Pickett also a bit up in the air. seems like there's big difference between Hurts and Pickett and also even though Pickett not very good between Pickett and the 3rd string guy

I don't think there is a big difference between Pickett and McKee. I think a lot of Eagles fans would prefer McKee to be the #2.

ok fair enough but still don't see how there can be a spread w/o knowing who the QB is.

It would just be weighted (assuming the bettors are acting reasonably).
[Probability that hurts plays] multiplied by [probability of the Eagles winning given that hurts plays], PLUS, [probability that Hurts does not play] multiplied by [probability of the Eagles winning given that hurts does not play].
Well, that would be for the money line. But similar reasoning for the spread, although I guess the math would be a little different since it's like a median thing.