unckeyherb
Footballguy
326 yards, 3 deep TD passes, perfect 158.3 passer rating, another win. All against a top five defense and arguably #1 pass defense in the league. RB playing the QB position my hairy-***.
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QB Jalen Hurts, PHI (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter elguapo07
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Hopefully the Eagles learn from this and lean into it. They should be a pass 1st team. It shouldn't matter how they won the Super Bowl last season. That's not the team they have now, this team should be throwing 35 times a game and taking routine deep shots.
I also liked the PA under center stuff. Helps the OL and gives the defense more to think about.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Hurts gets to show out today
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Jalen Hurts -- last 22 games started and finished
TD -- 56
Giveaways -- 6
Eagles are 20-2 in those games
TD -- 56
Giveaways -- 6
Eagles are 20-2 in those games
eighsse2
Footballguy
Wow. That's pretty crazy considering how many interceptions he has thrown at times in his career.
Terpman22
Footballguy
My favorite thing about this thread is when Jalen Hurts has great games, there literally is no action at all.
Season Ranks:
YPA: 10th
Comp %: 7th
Passing Tds: T-3
Rating: 4th
Also First player in NFL history to have a 15:1 TD:INT ratio thru the first 8 games of a season.
Add in 5 rushing TDs, pacing for 40+ total touchdowns
Season Ranks:
YPA: 10th
Comp %: 7th
Passing Tds: T-3
Rating: 4th
Also First player in NFL history to have a 15:1 TD:INT ratio thru the first 8 games of a season.
Add in 5 rushing TDs, pacing for 40+ total touchdowns
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
No one gives the poor eagles any respect smh
John Clark
Jalen Hurts is 31-15 against teams with a winning record, including playoffs. That 674 winning percentage is the highest by any starting quarterback since 1950 (minimum 15 starts)
Boston
Footballguy
Report: Frustrations mount over Jalen Hurts playing "his game"
The Hurts contract gives the Eagles no real choice but to deal with it.
www.nbcsports.com
eighsse2
Footballguy
Is there a realistic chance that this is accurate? Hurts just flat-out defying what the coaches tell him to do? I don't see a quarterback getting away with that.Report: Frustrations mount over Jalen Hurts playing "his game"
The Hurts contract gives the Eagles no real choice but to deal with it.
Boston
Footballguy
Is there a realistic chance that this is accurate? Hurts just flat-out defying what the coaches tell him to do? I don't see a quarterback getting away with that.Report: Frustrations mount over Jalen Hurts playing "his game"
The Hurts contract gives the Eagles no real choice but to deal with it.
I hear ya...was really blown away to read this...there seems to be some tension with their O but if this were true that takes things to a totally different level...I do find it hard to believe he is defying the coaching-stuff...if it were that bad I would think we would have heard rumblings of it before now.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Is there a realistic chance that this is accurate? Hurts just flat-out defying what the coaches tell him to do? I don't see a quarterback getting away with that.Report: Frustrations mount over Jalen Hurts playing "his game"
The Hurts contract gives the Eagles no real choice but to deal with it.
Flat out defiance is a serious accusation, and maybe incorrectly described/reported. Hesitant to "let it fly" is fairly common though and usually results in crazy low INT ratio which becomes a misleading stat on good football teams (w/ mediocre QBs). I think about someone like Alex Smith... always seemed to have a very good QB rating, which IIRC was resulting from low INTs... which was directly tied to his hesitancy to throw it downfield or toss 50/50 balls. But because Alex Smith had a good QB rating and his teams won nobody really focused on it. The 2025 Eagles kind of fit that mold. 2024 they just ran the ball like crazy which (I'm sure) helped to open up the passing game. Right now the Eagles offense is looking like the plane crash of 2023... except the defense is so dominant they are still winning.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
He stinks.
rockaction
Footballguy
He’s terrible and we’ve been saying it for years.
People are right that they couldn’t win with Zach Wilson but. . .
People are right that they couldn’t win with Zach Wilson but. . .
Patullo is not running the offense to Hurts strengths, like last year
Patullo is 100% the issue, trying to pass it off on others is not what's really going on.
the offense was much better under Moore, Patullo and his lack of experience calling plays and running an offense is glaring
He does not play to his players strong points, he is also predictable in his calls
He needs to go for someone who has a better clue on what they are doing
Patullo is 100% the issue, trying to pass it off on others is not what's really going on.
the offense was much better under Moore, Patullo and his lack of experience calling plays and running an offense is glaring
He does not play to his players strong points, he is also predictable in his calls
He needs to go for someone who has a better clue on what they are doing
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
All of this is true. AND in parallel the QB is missing wide open guys repeatedly.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
I wonder why people take the criticism of the QB for the team they root for personally? It could truly be a fascinating study. Someone calls my baby ugly, sure, we are throwing hands, but the QB of my team?
Judge Smails
Footballguy
He was JaMarcus Russell 2.0 tonight. Single-handedly knocked thousands of teams out of the playoffs. Hearing about some brutal brutal losses
rockaction
Footballguy
I needed ten points for a shot at the playoffs in one league and was submerged with Hurts and his .40 total. He’s just not a good QB and the fans from Filadelfia hysterical about outsider assessment would be funny if they weren’t constantly wrong and mean-spirited.
But then there was almost a miracle I benefited from. I almost caught a team that entered the weekend up 135 points on me for the entire year. He had Hurts and Hurts’s -.7 almost cost him. Good thing he had Goedert, who scored 17.2 in a muted PPR (.2 per catch) because he only won that tiebreak by ~10 points.
The worst part was that I thought I won because the app said he left two receivers who were out as starters (which confused me terribly because our league members aren’t complete sharps but are good quality and attentive) but for whatever reason I forgot we do contingencies if a guy is questionable. So I think the dude is up 4 and Hurts throws a pick so that’s -4.5 (tough scoring) and I’m jumping up and down and rejoicing and then. . . ****. I’d forgotten because I always just set my lineup before the game so I go to our league website and he has Downs and Noel. 12 points. I lose.
lol. At least it means the league isn’t folding, so that’s good. Bright side.
Had a 16 point lead and was proj'd to win by 28 heading into the game, his vidal and dicker... me hurts and eagles D. His two players exceeded their projections by over 200%. Eagles D was fine. Hurts scored 0.4 and i lost by 10. missed the playoffs as a result. it was 3.5 hours of pain that when you thought it was bottom. it kept falling. i cant help but laught as it's so absurd what happened.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Yeah, kind of knew that for his entire career, no? He is/was/will always be tush-push dependent for fantasy purposes.cost me a playoff spot. if he's not being pushed into the end zone this guy sucks.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The best part is that because of all the fake rushing TDs (tush push) Hurts actually thinks that he is an elite QB. You can see it on his face. He’s the alpha. All must bow to him.cost me a playoff spot. if he's not being pushed into the end zone this guy sucks.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
He's not great. He's had great moments but something seems off.
Nowhere near the development you'd have expect out of him
He has a ring and he probably played his best game ever in the one he didn't win.
But just... odd
Nowhere near the development you'd have expect out of him
He has a ring and he probably played his best game ever in the one he didn't win.
But just... odd
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
If you start with the premise that he has zero ability to read a defense, none of what you see on the field seems odd at all
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
He's always been overrated imo.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Kudos to a coaching staff that has sculpted an offense playing to Hurts' strengths and weaknesses.
He's not perfect... and they know that.
Dizzy
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Also helps to have a stacked line. that's one thing your GM gets right, builds from the lines on both sides. very smart.
I'd definitely start him against the Raiders.
Insein
Footballguy
I wouldn't. Theyve barely run a tush push in 2 weeks and always seem to struggle with it now. Can barely get to the goal line since the bye. So no auto TDs. No QB runs dialled up either. So the built in floor of 1-2 rushing TDs gone makes him a shaky play.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I have confidence in him for Week 15 and 16. Not sure about 17, but my other option would be McCarthy. Even though McCarthy's matchup is way better, I don't think there's any way I do that.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Absolutely, it's a cream puff schedule next 4 games. 3-1 is a lock, maybe 4-0 if they can outscore BUF.
you can see how good the OC play calling was the past two years, with Patullo the play calling is not good
does not put Hurts in good positions to succeed.
The O Line is not as good this year
Hurts attitude has changed also, he does not want to run, he has said he does not want designed run plays called anymore
Seems like winning has gone to his head and he is now a prima donna and soft, not all about winning any longer
does not put Hurts in good positions to succeed.
The O Line is not as good this year
Hurts attitude has changed also, he does not want to run, he has said he does not want designed run plays called anymore
Seems like winning has gone to his head and he is now a prima donna and soft, not all about winning any longer
eighsse2
Footballguy
Did he actually say this?
unckeyherb
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
How about 2022 when Barkley was just a glimmer in Howie's eye and Hurts was the odds on favorite for MVP prior to getting injured in Chicago in week 14?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
He had a lot more swagger back then…..feels like a decade ago
