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QB Josh Allen, BUF (2 Viewers)
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Nah, unless those white kids are from predominantly white areas & are using that word because they're stupid and think it makes them "cool." If they did this in an urban area, or around black kids, use of that word would be an issue. I've been teaching at urban schools for almost 20 years, and I'm not out of touch with them; you're just wrong.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
What are you talking about? I've taught high school for almost 20 years in Baltimore City, and in an urban community right outside Pittsburgh. Black kids use the n-word, white kids don't. It's the truth. I've had conversations with some of these students about it. They don't always voice it this way, but when they use the word, they "own" it; if a white person uses the word, it's offensive to them. Just because white kids in predominantly white neighborhoods, schools, groups, etc want to use the word doesn't change it's offensive nature, and if they were to use that word around the wrong people, it would cause problems. What experience with black kids do you have that guides your opinion?
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So, your experience “with kids in hs and college” makes you an expert, huh?
This story suggests you are making stuff up to fit your narrative (which shocks NO ONE).
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Pwingles
Footballguy
How close you are with high school boys (weird for you to say that) matters little. You may be close with HS boys from your region. I don’t know where you live, or what select group of HS boys you are close with, but this behavior that you are trying to normalize, isn’t normal, and other than your “the HS boys that I’m close to” stuff, there’s NOTHING to support your belief.
BlueDredSo
Footballguy
Guys, cut the ####. Nobody besides you cares what kids call each other in your school districts. Josh said it, he owned up to it, and literally everyone is moving on besides you two.
Yes, some white kids use it, and they're idiots.
Yes, some white kids use it, and they're idiots.
Gawain
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The spin on this from Rotoworld is almost the exact opposite of how McDermott and the Bills have been playing this. Rotoworld's spin makes it seem like the Bills seem to be leaning towards working Allen into the 1s and everything the team has said and done seems to point in the opposite direction.
While it's possible Allen could get some reps with the 1s, the Bills seem content to bring him along slowly IMO.
This is the actually quote from the ESPN article cited in the Rotoworld blurb:
While it's possible Allen could get some reps with the 1s, the Bills seem content to bring him along slowly IMO.
This is the actually quote from the ESPN article cited in the Rotoworld blurb:
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Reportedly a good day for Allen. Long way to go, but good to hear that his play is keeping him in the QB mix and he isn't failing from the start.
Great throw here
That's the kind of throw that looks easy for him to make that McCarron and Peterson really just can't make (or Tyrod Taylor really).
Great throw here
That's the kind of throw that looks easy for him to make that McCarron and Peterson really just can't make (or Tyrod Taylor really).
I was at practice today... Allen was the best QB today by a pretty decent margin. Peterman had a tough practice and McCarron looks like everything you want from a #2 QB.
Allen threw 2 picks, the 1st was throwing a deep out late... in college it is probably a catch and the 2nd was a jump ball to Benjamin that he got his hands on twice but tipped up in the air.
Also threw a great back shoulder and threaded the seam on another pass. He got the work w/ the 1st team O vs 1st team D to end practice. Had a very nice PA fake and then throw over the middle to Clay too.
His upside is far above anything the other two bring, but he definitely will make mistakes. And weirdly struggles with the short little 5 yard passes (like easy rollouts or flare passes)
BTW I know this is the Allen thread, but man Shady still looks really really good
Allen threw 2 picks, the 1st was throwing a deep out late... in college it is probably a catch and the 2nd was a jump ball to Benjamin that he got his hands on twice but tipped up in the air.
Also threw a great back shoulder and threaded the seam on another pass. He got the work w/ the 1st team O vs 1st team D to end practice. Had a very nice PA fake and then throw over the middle to Clay too.
His upside is far above anything the other two bring, but he definitely will make mistakes. And weirdly struggles with the short little 5 yard passes (like easy rollouts or flare passes)
BTW I know this is the Allen thread, but man Shady still looks really really good
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I think it's a combination of 2 things:
1) They had almost zero of those types of throws at Wyoming. Their offense had almost no screens and short passes so it's just not something he is used to and
2) These are the throws where his footwork still becomes an issue most often. I guess because of their quick nature or something he goes back to his longer throwing base, doesn't shrink it down, and he releases the ball high. Hopefully fixable if he gets enough reps practicing it and ingraining that shorter base to throw from.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Rotoworld really is the worst. Allen had a great day reportedly, but he threw TWO interceptions in practice and Joe B absolutely even said that in both his tweets and article.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I have to admit. That looked A LOT better than what I had in my head from just listening to the game live. Both of those deep passes to Foster look like they would have been catches with a starting caliber WR on the receiving end.
stuckinthemuck
Footballguy
I'm starting to see why an NFL scout would find his natural talent to be alluring. The cool kids are hating on Josh Allen, and he's not the nicest dude off the field, either. But it's also not hard to envision picking him up in a best ball lineup in one of the last two rounds or playing him one week in DFS GPP. If you don't get penalized more than -1 for an interception he can potentially be a great value. One easy toss to Kelvin Benjamin in the end zone followed by one long throw to Corey Coleman in the same game can be a nice payoff. Keep an open mind.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I do not want him making that back-foot throw at 3:38 routinely against first-string DBs, but that was a pretty impressive display of arm strength.
Overall, I thought he looked very good, but he was playing with and against guys are just hoping to make a roster. You can definitely see why he was drafted so high.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I took Josh Rosen in my dynasty but I keep getting warmer on Allen.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Allen looked great tonight. I think McCarron is out as starter. Peterman may still get handed the job, but Allen making a very strong case to be Week 1 starter.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
AJ McCarron with a hairline fracture of his collarbone. Allen inches closer to being Week 1 starter...
MAC_32
Footballguy
Good scoring play but nothing noteworthy otherwise. How many times did he get to the second read before bailing?
