osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
It's week 4. I understand they have two first-rounders but there is a lot of football to be played.
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QB Justin Fields, NYJ (2 Viewers)
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osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I have no choice but to roll with JF due to byes but he has been my QB from week one and will remain so this week. Thursday night games are always a different animal to me. I'm not a fan of going with Thursday night players but sometimes I have no choice. I'm also not a huge fan of playing London players for what it is worth. I find players seem to score less on Thursday night. The London games feel the same way to me. I do not know if anyone has done the analytics on this and maybe this is a good topic to discuss in another thread but would be an interesting study sure someone has done the research so maybe I should at the very least google it.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Nice bounce back for Fields. What a rollercoaster
P.S. Please keep throwing to Moore!
P.S. Please keep throwing to Moore!
Stat Correction
Footballguy
First Bears quarterback since Jay Cutler in 2010 to have a pair of four-score efforts in the same season.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
So glad I have kept starting this kid after the first rough weeks. Don’t know where this roller coaster ride is headed through the season but swinging for the fences every week is fun and how you win competitive leagues.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Holy hell, the mental gymnastics some of y'all go through to put this kid down is just amazing. Fields has objectively been one of the best QBs in the league since the debacle that was week 3. Let's look at those stats:
QBR of 69 and 77 for week 4 and 5. For reference QBR of 75 is considered pro bowl caliber.
averaging 300 ypg
averaging 4 TD per game in the air
Outside the stats, he's doing everything the naysayers said he couldn't do.
- 1 read QB? Nope. You can watch his eyes and his hitch as he goes through progressions
- can't throw to the inside. Nope, he's peppering the field with throws.
- is just a RB in the QB position. Nope. He's run for 200 yards and a touchdown in 4 games. ~35 yards per game in the past two games.
He's done this with one of the worst OCs in the league, an OL that has a hard time getting out of their own way, and a HC who's in well over his head. Repeated calls (sometimes back to back), receivers going to the same spots, OL protection schemes that just don't make sense, etc. Seriously, the amount of WTF plays this team has run is just insane. Oh and the DC resigned because of some undisclosed inappropriate activity. Speaking of the DEF, it's a group that has allowed 29PPG during this losing streak. To be fair, they played well last night even with 2/3 of the secondary injured.
Look, JF could have easily packed it in this season, gotten traded to another team for peanuts during the last year of his contract and likely become a starter on that team. Instead, the dude doubled down on work and has turned his (and possibly the Bears) season around. From a fan's perspective, this is exactly what you want to see from your starter QB. From a fantasy perspective, this kid has proven he can kill defenses with his arm and with his legs. Those QBs are exceptionally rare in this day and age.
QBR of 69 and 77 for week 4 and 5. For reference QBR of 75 is considered pro bowl caliber.
averaging 300 ypg
averaging 4 TD per game in the air
Outside the stats, he's doing everything the naysayers said he couldn't do.
- 1 read QB? Nope. You can watch his eyes and his hitch as he goes through progressions
- can't throw to the inside. Nope, he's peppering the field with throws.
- is just a RB in the QB position. Nope. He's run for 200 yards and a touchdown in 4 games. ~35 yards per game in the past two games.
He's done this with one of the worst OCs in the league, an OL that has a hard time getting out of their own way, and a HC who's in well over his head. Repeated calls (sometimes back to back), receivers going to the same spots, OL protection schemes that just don't make sense, etc. Seriously, the amount of WTF plays this team has run is just insane. Oh and the DC resigned because of some undisclosed inappropriate activity. Speaking of the DEF, it's a group that has allowed 29PPG during this losing streak. To be fair, they played well last night even with 2/3 of the secondary injured.
Look, JF could have easily packed it in this season, gotten traded to another team for peanuts during the last year of his contract and likely become a starter on that team. Instead, the dude doubled down on work and has turned his (and possibly the Bears) season around. From a fan's perspective, this is exactly what you want to see from your starter QB. From a fantasy perspective, this kid has proven he can kill defenses with his arm and with his legs. Those QBs are exceptionally rare in this day and age.
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gucci little piggy
Footballguy
That's definitely the last time I'll bench him. I figured there was a good chance the Football Team's d-line could be in his face all night, but that didn't happen. He looked so much better than he did those first few weeks. That upcoming schedule is juicy!
I'd be really bummed leaving those points on my bench, but having DJ Moore's 49pts makes up for it.
I'd be really bummed leaving those points on my bench, but having DJ Moore's 49pts makes up for it.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The QB School Week 5 Justin Fields Analysis
Lot more creativity for the Bears last night, good pass pro, and left some meat on the bone.
Lot more creativity for the Bears last night, good pass pro, and left some meat on the bone.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
so crazy how he can go where to he was two weeks ago, to currently leading the NFL in passing TD's lol
4 TD games can boost the bottom line for sure.
Fields had a very good game and to me is always worth starting but it did seem like Washinton was uninspired to say the least. A couple shows today say the just laid down. Pretty early in the season if that is the case.
Fields like Jackson can both win you a game on their own, or lose you a game on their own.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Anyone that thinks he is going to finish as a top 5 or even top 12 QB every week is in for a rude awakening. This is going to be a really bumpy ride. Enjoy the great weeks and don’t forget the potential when he has a game that is a huge clunker. We can only hope he has more great games than clunkers and has ok games sprinkled in as well.so crazy how he can go where to he was two weeks ago, to currently leading the NFL in passing TD's lol
4 TD games can boost the bottom line for sure.
Fields had a very good game and to me is always worth starting but it did seem like Washinton was uninspired to say the least. A couple shows today say the just laid down. Pretty early in the season if that is the case.
Fields like Jackson can both win you a game on their own, or lose you a game on their own.
Banger
Footballguy
Agreed…but it’s not like he hasn’t done it before. Was on the fence and had stroud in there and then swapped before the game. He’s Got such a high upside that’s it’s tough to sit him.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Fields-Stroud is a nice combo, especially for dynasty
Kuz
Footballguy
seriously
Pietaster2
Footballguy
How bad did the hand injury look? Anyone see or hear on a broadcast?
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
He came out looking really stunned, holding his right arm to his body. I'm guessing it's not broken, but didn't look good at all.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
MRI Tomorrow, x-Rays were negative. The thumb on his throwing had was dislocated, they posed it back, but he still couldn't play.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Crossing fingers. I went from having Mahomes and Fields to moving Mahomes. To possibly now not having either. Brutal.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
It’s a lost season and Bears will be drafting a new QB, right?
zamboni
Footballguy
They’re going to have to figure out again next year with the reasonable assumption that they’ll be in a position to grab Caleb either with their own pick or Carolina’s.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Most likely scenario, yes. I'd expect Poles to acquire as many more picks as possible before the trade deadline including trading Fields. This coming from one of the biggest Fields stans out there. The situation is not good for the Bears nor Fields. I think he'll do really well in a system that has stable, good offensive coaching and that is not and has never been the Bears.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I agree with your last point. There's enough raw material there to develop a franchise QB, but they have not put him into situations he could succeed. Under Fox or Eberlus/Getsy.
Someone will come along and think they can fix him and the Bears should be able to profit.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
One thing for thought is the leverage Caleb Williams has to simply return to school. If the Bears lose out sure they get pick 1, but losing out is ugly. Why would Caleb watch the Bears lose out and and think that looks perfect for me?
Balco
Footballguy
I think if the Bears secure the number one pick Caleb Williams would 100% play for them - The current GM and coach would be jettisoned and the new regime would be appealing to him (Ownership will make sure of that).
Additionally they have a lot of draft capital to build that team in short order (if they draft better than Ryan Poles, that is)
FarFromHome
Footballguy
You summed up the thread in one post. Ha ha. Im not greedy. I don't care if he wins or loses football games. I just want him to stay healthy and be a top ten fantasy qb. That's it.
jurrassic
Footballguy
I agree. I think he would play for the Bears, but I don't think a big selling point is a new unproven GM and a new unproven head coach. Curious if the Bears would pay up for experience. You would think an established GM would be more than willing to work for a team with 2 top 5 picks and cap space.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
It was a fun couple of weeks.
Balco
Footballguy
I think they will make a pretty big offer for Lincoln Riley to be the head coach - there will be a ton of people interested in the GM spot, it’s a great destination with all of those draft picks.
They should take a look at what Lions did to rebuild and that’s focus on the lines.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Not saying your path isn't gonna happen it's just a buuuuuuunch of opinion and speculation. Bears lose out. Caleb likes Bears. Bears fire coach. Bears fire gm. Bears hire Riley. I will say if I was Bears fan I could surely get behind all that. Not hating, but the Bears don't have the best history of making the right moves.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Neither did the Lions until they did...
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Yes sir. Perfect example of the importance of a head coach putting his stamp on things.
eighsse2
Footballguy
"Reside"? Typo, misquote, or usage of the word that I'm not familiar with?
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I'm sure he meant "subside"
eighsse2
Footballguy
That's what I figured. Sometimes there are uncommon definitions I'm not aware of too. I wonder if the "source" actually said that, or if Schefter just typo'ed.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Well. I guess the latest news is promising? Doubtful is better then out. One thing for sure is that Fields has to be aware this is a pivotal point in his career. The chatter for Bears to move on is real. He has to hear it. Gotta think he gets on the field as soon as possible. For the record I do own a share of Fields, but I'm also intelligent enough to form opinions with that share.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
sounds like he avoided serious injury (no ligament damage requiring surgery)
Sucks though - would have liked to have had him against the Raiders.
Sigh
Sucks though - would have liked to have had him against the Raiders.
Sigh
FarFromHome
Footballguy
As cautiously optimistic as I am I don't even think we can say that yet. We won't really know anything until that swelling goes down and they can take a look.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I thought I’d read that he had an MRI this AM.
The latest update is they’re going to rehab it, which means no surgery.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
The talk in Chicago is surgery is still on the table, cautiously optimistic but will know for sure by end of the week.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Ya he did. Which is good. MRIs aren't always 100% though. Swelling can give inaccurate diagnosis sometimes. Passing the first MRI is huge. Next step is how hand looks structurally once swelling goes down. Sure wish it was the non throwing hand.
