QB Mac Jones, SF (1 Viewer)

[jobarules]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

Wouldve taken some real brass balls to give the keys to Mac Jones. Hindsight is 2020

 

[Big Nate]

I came away from that game with a lot of respect for Mac Jones. He's one tough SOB. It's almost as if they got him out of a hospital bed and said suit up. Hellava performance. As for fantasy, if you want to handcuff him fine, but generally I don't have a lot of interest in Jones for fantasy. BUT, even though Jones has his own health concerns, Purdy may not be right for the rest of the season. If your QB room is bare and you own Purdy, you probably should be rostering Jones.

In SF dynasty leagues Mac will get another shot to start somewhere - 100%. At that time you have another starting QB or you trade him for a first round pick - maybe more if he keeps lighting it up.

I've always been a Jones fan which is hard to say when he played for the Patriots. I think he's been shafted after his rookie season. He had a defensive coordinator leading the way in his second year and it was the worst thing ever.

I'm really glad he is in SF and showing what he can do in a good system. Good coaches and good play callers is huge - it is why I'm bullish on Caleb this year. He finally has good coaching.

Now if Mac goes somewhere else I hope it is to a good system.

 

[Big Nate]

Mac Jones showing how poor the coaching in New England was when he was there.

Looked pretty good in Jacksonville last season and now in SF, amazing what some competent coaching can do for a QB

He is at the least a quality backup now, will be in the league for a few years. Good for him after the raw deal he got in New England

I can't stress how bad the situation was in NE with those coaches. BAD BAD.

EDIT - One last thing for the Jones vs Purdy chatter - maybe both are good. Doesn't have to be one better than the other but both are perfect for this system. Both are good QBs that understand the game, can execute a proper offense and get the ball to the play makers. Mac is the QB they should have drafted that year.

 

[Capella]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think when they watched Trey Lance, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, Nick Mullens, and others they knew to grab and latch on to Purdy.

Jimmy G cost them a Super Bowl (if he makes a throw, they win) and another playoff run died in Los Angeles when everybody had exceeded expectations except for his own albatross self. He was awful during that playoff run also, IIRC, and it probably showed them they needed somebody decent—and decent doesn't come along too often.

It becomes easy to suck it up and say, "Yeah, this is our guy," when you've seen that you can't make soda without drinkable water.

eta* Purdy was like 1st or 2nd in EPA/play in 2023 and has been pretty consistently rated highly, although you can't control for Shanahan. You can't measure it. He's outplaying Mac Jones in some statistical gradations and measures that one might not think matter but do.

I mean, him taking Jimmy G to the Super Bowl kinda makes my point for me doesn’t it?

 

[Uncle Leo]

Ended up picking up Mac Jones. I have Purdy as my starting quarterback and not sure when he’ll be back. Love Shanny’s system for the QBs. Purdy or Jones can be explosive once Pearsall, Aiyuk, Jennings, and Kittle come back.

 

[Big Nate]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think when they watched Trey Lance, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, Nick Mullens, and others they knew to grab and latch on to Purdy.

Jimmy G cost them a Super Bowl (if he makes a throw, they win) and another playoff run died in Los Angeles when everybody had exceeded expectations except for his own albatross self. He was awful during that playoff run also, IIRC, and it probably showed them they needed somebody decent—and decent doesn't come along too often.

It becomes easy to suck it up and say, "Yeah, this is our guy," when you've seen that you can't make soda without drinkable water.

eta* Purdy was like 1st or 2nd in EPA/play in 2023 and has been pretty consistently rated highly, although you can't control for Shanahan. You can't measure it. He's outplaying Mac Jones in some statistical gradations and measures that one might not think matter but do.

I mean, him taking Jimmy G to the Super Bowl kinda makes my point for me doesn’t it?

Their system is very good but you also need the right QB. I think they know what they need in a QB but they haven't always been able to get it. Purdy is still a good QB. He's the guy out there slinging it and making it happen. Jimmy G or Mac or whoever doesn't change the fact that Purdy is still out there balling. Mac Jones also balled out. But one being good doesn't make the next one good. SF just knows the types of guys they can work with - its why they shipped Lance.

Jimmy G was serviceable but both Purdy and Jones are better. Darnold was better too.

Anyways I think we call agree the system is very good if they have the right QB.

 

[jobarules]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think when they watched Trey Lance, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, Nick Mullens, and others they knew to grab and latch on to Purdy.

Jimmy G cost them a Super Bowl (if he makes a throw, they win) and another playoff run died in Los Angeles when everybody had exceeded expectations except for his own albatross self. He was awful during that playoff run also, IIRC, and it probably showed them they needed somebody decent—and decent doesn't come along too often.

It becomes easy to suck it up and say, "Yeah, this is our guy," when you've seen that you can't make soda without drinkable water.

eta* Purdy was like 1st or 2nd in EPA/play in 2023 and has been pretty consistently rated highly, although you can't control for Shanahan. You can't measure it. He's outplaying Mac Jones in some statistical gradations and measures that one might not think matter but do.

I mean, him taking Jimmy G to the Super Bowl kinda makes my point for me doesn’t it?

Their system is very good but you also need the right QB. I think they know what they need in a QB but they haven't always been able to get it. Purdy is still a good QB. He's the guy out there slinging it and making it happen. Jimmy G or Mac or whoever doesn't change the fact that Purdy is still out there balling. Mac Jones also balled out. But one being good doesn't make the next one good. SF just knows the types of guys they can work with - its why they shipped Lance.

Jimmy G was serviceable but both Purdy and Jones are better. Darnold was better too.

Anyways I think we call agree the system is very good if they have the right QB.

Exactly

And if they signed mac Jones for cheap what do they do the next year when hes a free agent. They would have to sign him to a big deal anyway. This is how the NFL works. You would think a bucs fan who did the same EXACT thing with Mayfield would understand that.

 

[Capella]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think when they watched Trey Lance, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, Nick Mullens, and others they knew to grab and latch on to Purdy.

Jimmy G cost them a Super Bowl (if he makes a throw, they win) and another playoff run died in Los Angeles when everybody had exceeded expectations except for his own albatross self. He was awful during that playoff run also, IIRC, and it probably showed them they needed somebody decent—and decent doesn't come along too often.

It becomes easy to suck it up and say, "Yeah, this is our guy," when you've seen that you can't make soda without drinkable water.

eta* Purdy was like 1st or 2nd in EPA/play in 2023 and has been pretty consistently rated highly, although you can't control for Shanahan. You can't measure it. He's outplaying Mac Jones in some statistical gradations and measures that one might not think matter but do.

I mean, him taking Jimmy G to the Super Bowl kinda makes my point for me doesn’t it?

Their system is very good but you also need the right QB. I think they know what they need in a QB but they haven't always been able to get it. Purdy is still a good QB. He's the guy out there slinging it and making it happen. Jimmy G or Mac or whoever doesn't change the fact that Purdy is still out there balling. Mac Jones also balled out. But one being good doesn't make the next one good. SF just knows the types of guys they can work with - its why they shipped Lance.

Jimmy G was serviceable but both Purdy and Jones are better. Darnold was better too.

Anyways I think we call agree the system is very good if they have the right QB.

Exactly

And if they signed mac Jones for cheap what do they do the next year when hes a free agent. They would have to sign him to a big deal anyway. This is how the NFL works. You would think a bucs fan who did the same EXACT thing with Mayfield would understand that.

The Bucs signed Baker to a 3 year/33M a year deal. It’s not even a top-25 NFL contract cost lmao. Purdy clocks in at #7. It’s amazing you can’t even get the simple stuff right before spouting off at me after all these years.

 

[rockaction]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think when they watched Trey Lance, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, Nick Mullens, and others they knew to grab and latch on to Purdy.

Jimmy G cost them a Super Bowl (if he makes a throw, they win) and another playoff run died in Los Angeles when everybody had exceeded expectations except for his own albatross self. He was awful during that playoff run also, IIRC, and it probably showed them they needed somebody decent—and decent doesn't come along too often.

It becomes easy to suck it up and say, "Yeah, this is our guy," when you've seen that you can't make soda without drinkable water.

eta* Purdy was like 1st or 2nd in EPA/play in 2023 and has been pretty consistently rated highly, although you can't control for Shanahan. You can't measure it. He's outplaying Mac Jones in some statistical gradations and measures that one might not think matter but do.

I mean, him taking Jimmy G to the Super Bowl kinda makes my point for me doesn’t it?

Not really. I mean you can say if they had gotten lucky they might have won, but the problem with that is that they might have been lucky to be there and that this version of San Francisco isn't as good as that one was. There was an interesting article in ESPN about this exact subject yesterday.

You should read it if you're interested in the real answer regarding why and then how they did it.

How the 49ers are using the Rams' blueprint to rebuild around Brock Purdy

The 49ers started to plan Brock Purdy's extension in 2022 -- and their division rivals helped them.

www.espn.com

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Owner Jed York:

"When you find somebody that is a top-10 quarterback who can help you continually win football games, then you have to make that decision," 49ers owner Jed York said earlier this year. "And if you do that, it just comes with consequences, and you have to figure it out . . .

For the Niners, the signs that Purdy would be the guy who helps Lynch and Shanahan sleep better revealed themselves early. Shanahan pointed to Purdy's second NFL start, a December 2022 game in Seattle in which Purdy played through a rib injury on short rest to help clinch the NFC West, as the night he knew Purdy had what it takes to succeed.

Purdy further proved that in 2023 when he overcame a torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right (throwing) elbow to lead the Niners to the Super Bowl, earn his first Pro Bowl nod and finish fourth in league MVP voting as he threw for a franchise-record 4,280 yards.

According to York, the decision to sign Purdy long-term was solidified about halfway through this past season with Lynch circling back to Shanahan once the 6-11 season concluded to ensure that was still the plan.

'You don't burden your head coach until the season's over and you say, 'Hey, now comes the real big decision. Are we going for this? Is Brock our guy?' Lynch said. 'And understanding that with that, we're not going to be able to keep the rest of our guys. That's just the reality in our league.'" - Nick Wagoner, 10/2/2025, espn.com

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But it's pretty clear that they do not think that just anybody can come in and do what they need to be done.

 

[menobrown]

I seriously wonder if Kyle is wearing out the people, like Lynch, who reportedly talked him out of drafting Mac Jones at 1.03. I would if I was him.

I think he's a drop off from Purdy but would saved them a lot of headaches along the way. Now if drafting Mac at 1.03 meant they would not have drafted Purdy in round 7 I legit have to wonder with benefit of hindsight what they'd have done if that was the options?

Either way they gave a haul to move to 1.03 and if it was for Mac they could have just sat in their draft position at 1.12 I think and took him. This is alll a lot easier with hindsight of course.

 

[jobarules]

I seriously wonder if Kyle is wearing out the people, like Lynch, who reportedly talked him out of drafting Mac Jones at 1.03. I would if I was him.

I think he's a drop off from Purdy but would saved them a lot of headaches along the way. Now if drafting Mac at 1.03 meant they would not have drafted Purdy in round 7 I legit have to wonder with benefit of hindsight what they'd have done if that was the options?

Either way they gave a haul to move to 1.03 and if it was for Mac they could have just sat in their draft position at 1.12 I think and took him. This is alll a lot easier with hindsight of course.

I do wonder if this is a bit of an overreaction with it being one game lol

Its not really one game. Hes 3-0. He also turned BTJ into a stud last year.

 

[wlwiles]

I seriously wonder if Kyle is wearing out the people, like Lynch, who reportedly talked him out of drafting Mac Jones at 1.03. I would if I was him.

I think he's a drop off from Purdy but would saved them a lot of headaches along the way. Now if drafting Mac at 1.03 meant they would not have drafted Purdy in round 7 I legit have to wonder with benefit of hindsight what they'd have done if that was the options?

Either way they gave a haul to move to 1.03 and if it was for Mac they could have just sat in their draft position at 1.12 I think and took him. This is alll a lot easier with hindsight of course.

I do wonder if this is a bit of an overreaction with it being one game lol

Its not really one game. Hes 3-0. He also turned BTJ into a stud last year.

Jags kept the wrong QB

 

[Ray_T]

Can’t beleive they gave Brock Purdy 50M a year when this guy can get 350 yards out of Mac Jones playing with absolute SCRUB receivers. Should’ve allocated the money elsewhere!

I think that's why there was some initial hesitation in paying Brock

I dont think anyone knew that Mac Jones would do this and I dont think he had anything to do with the decision. That said, sometimes a QB cannot be rehabbed after being mishandled by another franchise. so they signed him with the hope they could work with him.

I think they hesitated because they were not sure Purdy was fully worth the money. Hes a system QB. not sure he has the same value on another team, so if he leaves, its likely not in his best interest.

but this is the NFL. if they let him walk the fans would have freaked. Team almost won a superbowl with him. so I think given the knowledge at the time it was the right move to make. but, as is often the case, player gets paid, and the performance takes a dip. whether its temporary or permanent remains to be seen.

but Mac Jones may well also be a system QB. good in this system, but not necessarily good elsewhere. a good coach will alter the gameplan and playbook to suit the QB. but some coaches make the QB adapt to their system. That is fine if the skillset matches up completely. but if it doesnt, it wont usually turn out well.

Shanny has a lot of faults, but he is good at getting production out of the QB position with or without top level talent.

 

[Big Nate]

Re-signing Purdy was the right decision. He's been good, he is young and seems to be a fantastic fit for the team. The fans are going to complain either way (either they would be made that they let him go a la Parsons, or pissed they paid him "so much" money).

The bottom line is there are probably 50% of the teams in the NFL who would rather have Purdy than their current QB (MIA and Tua might just be that one). The grass isn't always greener....

As much as I like Mac Jones the right answer is paying Purdy and locking him up long term. There was no guarantee that Jones was going to ball out like he did. But he is a perfect fit for the O. Having said that Purdy has done it for multiple years now. SF should be happy to have him.

 

[Faust]

KNBR
Mac Jones was asked if he views himself as the starting QB going forward:

"Brock's the starter of this team ... I'm just trying to get some wins for him so it helps us down the line."

https://x.com/knbr/status/1973991801053929505?s=61

 

[joey]

Re-signing Purdy was the right decision. He's been good, he is young and seems to be a fantastic fit for the team. The fans are going to complain either way (either they would be made that they let him go a la Parsons, or pissed they paid him "so much" money).

The bottom line is there are probably 50% of the teams in the NFL who would rather have Purdy than their current QB (MIA and Tua might just be that one). The grass isn't always greener....

As much as I like Mac Jones the right answer is paying Purdy and locking him up long term. There was no guarantee that Jones was going to ball out like he did. But he is a perfect fit for the O. Having said that Purdy has done it for multiple years now. SF should be happy to have him.

Way too logical a post. Please stop.

 

[dipandglide]

Purdy has been elite when he's out there. Show the man some respect!

 

[NinerGang]

Is it ok to say big balls on here? Seriously, Mac Jones is under contract through 2026 for just $4mm. That is a steal if he continues to play like a top ten and young QB. I see a first and third round pick heading the Niners way when they trade him right before the deadline, giving Purdy time to heal

 

[Uncle Leo]

Is it ok to say big balls on here? Seriously, Mac Jones is under contract through 2026 for just $4mm. That is a steal if he continues to play like a top ten and young QB. I see a first and third round pick heading the Niners way when they trade him right before the deadline, giving Purdy time to heal

Cannot trade him when Purdy might have a season long toe issue.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

KNBR
Mac Jones was asked if he views himself as the starting QB going forward:

"Brock's the starter of this team ... I'm just trying to get some wins for him so it helps us down the line."

https://x.com/knbr/status/1973991801053929505?s=61

So this is either an "aw shucks" answer or a very calculated response. I see it as the latter.

 

[rockaction]

Fun with Mac Jones:

Starting a fight with the Panthers

"Hold my nuts little b*tch," Mac Jones incites massive fight during Patriots and Panthers joint-practice with derogatory comment on Brian Burns

According to a reputed journalist following the Patriots, Simon Charles, the fight was incited by quarterback Mac Jones as he made a sly comment toward

firstsportz.com

Smacking Sauce Garnder in the testicles with a corroborating witness

NFL looking into Mac Jones allegedly hitting Sauce Gardner below the belt

The NFL is reportedly investigating Sauce Gardner's claim that Patriots quarterback Mac Jones hit him below the belt on Sunday.

985thesportshub.com

Yeah, this happened also. This was . . . unreal. It's a funny meme, but check Jones out on the right.

TikTok - Make Your Day

They blew it up for you. It was completely ridiculous then, and I'm remembering what I thought of him and sort of recoiling in disgust.

Mac Jones believed to have high ankle sprain after painful grimace while being carried down stairs

The Patriots quarterback could still miss time despite X-rays reportedly coming back negative.

sports.yahoo.com

Mac Jones in more agony after a Miami game in 2022. Look at the walk!

https://x.com/GregABedard/status/1569055063905128448

This is the one I remember. Watch what he does to Brian Burns. Ridiculous.

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[SeniorVBDStudent]

Dude's a rock star.

 

[rockaction]

Dude's a rock star.

The idea of swaggering Mac was always better than the performance of it.

 

[Boston]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

 

[JohnnyU]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

Whatever issues he had in the past are just that, in the past. What I saw on Thursday night was the very definition of a leader. The man was hurt and laid it all out there on the field and showed his teammates what a tough SOB he is. He earned a lot of respect on Thursday IMO.

 

[rockaction]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

No doubt. It's weird because the only place and club he could or can do that with and they'll embrace it is the 49ers. It's like Shanahan and his 20 ****ing injuries every year by Week Six were made for him.

 

[Boston]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

Whatever issues he had in the past are just that, in the past. What I saw on Thursday night was the very definition of a leader. The man was hurt and laid it all out there on the field and showed his teammates what a tough SOB he is. He earned a lot of respect on Thursday IMO.

Agree about the respect but not sure you know he is a legit leader because of that...right now he is the scrappy backup and historically everyone has loved that type of player...he still needs to prove he can be the face of the franchise which a starting QB will always be...now I am not saying he can't be that and the fact he has dealt with adversity could very much have matured him but until a team actually hands him the keys to the car and commits to him we just don't know.

 

[JohnnyU]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

Whatever issues he had in the past are just that, in the past. What I saw on Thursday night was the very definition of a leader. The man was hurt and laid it all out there on the field and showed his teammates what a tough SOB he is. He earned a lot of respect on Thursday IMO.

Agree about the respect but not sure you know he is a legit leader because of that...right now he is the scrappy backup and historically everyone has loved that type of player...he still needs to prove he can be the face of the franchise which a starting QB will always be...now I am not saying he can't be that and the fact he has dealt with adversity could very much have matured him but until a team actually hands him the keys to the car and commits to him we just don't know.

He's not the face of the franchise, Purdy is. I'm just saying that for a backup QB he looked great on Thursday night, and for me personally, demonstrated great leadership.

 

[Boston]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

Whatever issues he had in the past are just that, in the past. What I saw on Thursday night was the very definition of a leader. The man was hurt and laid it all out there on the field and showed his teammates what a tough SOB he is. He earned a lot of respect on Thursday IMO.

Agree about the respect but not sure you know he is a legit leader because of that...right now he is the scrappy backup and historically everyone has loved that type of player...he still needs to prove he can be the face of the franchise which a starting QB will always be...now I am not saying he can't be that and the fact he has dealt with adversity could very much have matured him but until a team actually hands him the keys to the car and commits to him we just don't know.

He's not the face of the franchise, Purdy is. I'm just saying that for a backup QB he looked great on Thursday night, and for me personally, demonstrated great leadership.

We are on two different pages...I 100% agree with what I now see that you are saying...I am talking about him becoming a starter again in the NFL.

 

[JohnnyU]

The x-factor with Mac is the attitude/maturity...after a quality rookie year he got hung out to dry by Jordon's Sugar Daddy in a big and quite frankly embarrassing way but he also did himself no favors with his bratty behavior at times which he also displayed at Bama (Saban would tell Jones to stop, explaining, "You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language... It's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racquet. Cut that s—t)...if he is going to become a legit starting QB in the NFL he needs to become more of a leader...he has been out of New England for a couple of years and maybe he has grown up but because he plays QB that area has to be much better than it was with the Pats.

Whatever issues he had in the past are just that, in the past. What I saw on Thursday night was the very definition of a leader. The man was hurt and laid it all out there on the field and showed his teammates what a tough SOB he is. He earned a lot of respect on Thursday IMO.

Agree about the respect but not sure you know he is a legit leader because of that...right now he is the scrappy backup and historically everyone has loved that type of player...he still needs to prove he can be the face of the franchise which a starting QB will always be...now I am not saying he can't be that and the fact he has dealt with adversity could very much have matured him but until a team actually hands him the keys to the car and commits to him we just don't know.

He's not the face of the franchise, Purdy is. I'm just saying that for a backup QB he looked great on Thursday night, and for me personally, demonstrated great leadership.

We are on two different pages...I 100% agree with what I now see that you are saying...I am talking about him becoming a starter again in the NFL.

Someone will give him another shot as a starter. He's probably either a bottom 10 starter on another team, or one of the best backup QBs in the league. All I know is, that was one of best heroic / gutty performances I've seen in years. It brought me back to why I fell in love with the NFL some 60 years ago.