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QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (2 Viewers)

I agree with PK here

http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/17125/why-dont-the-titans-rollout-marcus-mariota-more

Also think some of those quotes are bleh. I don't at all think teams are prepared for Mariota to run or roll out like Cam or Russell Wilson. Bad tackle play may make it seem like OLB or DE is "right there" but that's not planning on it.

Many times, it seems Delanie is the only target they've got and so almost every LB and both S are on him. If Delanie's got a crowd. There is certainly no one spying MM then.

Young QBs don't run forever. At 27? 28? they almost always tone it down. Titans probably have 4-5 years with MM where he could run real well.

They've progressively done the same thing as last year- somewhere between losing faith in the WRs and loving the 2 and 3 TE sets. Everything is in the middle of the field and short to medium. Very small area of the field the D has to cover

 
Mariota had a real real nice game.

That 87 yard run was special. He doesn't look fast so he was already getting dissed in the game thread.

The Oline held up well, best all year, until the 3rd-4th Q and he started running then and scrambling to buy time. Been waiting all year for that so it was great to see.

He did have 4-5 bad passes, some others curiously low, and a muffed fake handoff with Cobb but the rest was impressive.

I love how one can see this guy get better each week and the progess is so obvious

 
Looks great. Don't even care about the turnovers and poor throws at his age because he makes the most important thing look easy: he throws TD's like its nothing. Some guys, every TD is a struggle. He has "it".

Very glad he and Winston both look so good, this league needed a QB talent infusion with the guys who will be retiring soon.

 
Bri said:
He held the ball well too. Remember how he held it earlier in the year?
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He's learning which is the most important thing right now.

The run was beautiful, maybe a handful of QBs could have done the same. He's calm under pressure, is a leader, appears to be of high character, is fairly accurate. He's everything you want in a franchise qb.

Now the Titans need to build a team around him.

 
They are taking the reigns off him quite a bit with the number of throws and called running plays. His potential is really starting to show. If Green Beckham can continue to develop and Wright stays healthy, I might just have to ride out the year with him regardless of what Andrew Luck does.

 
Next Gen Stats notebook: Pats receivers failing Brady

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The Titans' 42-39 victory over the Jaguars fulfilled the personnel department's draft vision, as second-round pick Dorial Green-Beckham notched his first 100-yard game and first-round pick Marcus Mariota became the first player in NFL history with at least 250 yards and three touchdowns passing and 100 yards rushing in the same game.

Mariota reached a maximum speed of 19.25 mph on his 87-yard touchdown scamper, his ninth-fastest speed this season. Unlike Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown in which he simply out-sprinted the Vikings' defense back in 2012, Mariota's long run was more attributable to poor defense and timely downfield blocking.
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Faust said:
Next Gen Stats notebook: Pats receivers failing Brady

Excerpt:

The Titans' 42-39 victory over the Jaguars fulfilled the personnel department's draft vision, as second-round pick Dorial Green-Beckham notched his first 100-yard game and first-round pick Marcus Mariota became the first player in NFL history with at least 250 yards and three touchdowns passing and 100 yards rushing in the same game.

Mariota reached a maximum speed of 19.25 mph on his 87-yard touchdown scamper, his ninth-fastest speed this season. Unlike Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown in which he simply out-sprinted the Vikings' defense back in 2012, Mariota's long run was more attributable to poor defense and timely downfield blocking.
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If there was ever a time to open up the jets that was it, but it was only his NINTH fastest speed this season? Something isn't right. Maybe his knee hasn't fully healed.

 
VandyMan said:
Faust said:
Next Gen Stats notebook: Pats receivers failing Brady

Excerpt:

The Titans' 42-39 victory over the Jaguars fulfilled the personnel department's draft vision, as second-round pick Dorial Green-Beckham notched his first 100-yard game and first-round pick Marcus Mariota became the first player in NFL history with at least 250 yards and three touchdowns passing and 100 yards rushing in the same game.

Mariota reached a maximum speed of 19.25 mph on his 87-yard touchdown scamper, his ninth-fastest speed this season. Unlike Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown in which he simply out-sprinted the Vikings' defense back in 2012, Mariota's long run was more attributable to poor defense and timely downfield blocking.
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If there was ever a time to open up the jets that was it, but it was only his NINTH fastest speed this season? Something isn't right. Maybe his knee hasn't fully healed.
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could be knee, could be rookie wall too. It was late in the game

 
Mariota oh so often says the right thing and almost seems scripted but you can also tell it's genuine.

Today on a Q about the long run he replied "Well I wasn't the only one out there running"

I loved that reply. Could have said 10 other guys on field, had good blocking, couldn't have done it without OL or Wright downfield etc

 
VandyMan said:
Faust said:
Next Gen Stats notebook: Pats receivers failing Brady

Excerpt:

The Titans' 42-39 victory over the Jaguars fulfilled the personnel department's draft vision, as second-round pick Dorial Green-Beckham notched his first 100-yard game and first-round pick Marcus Mariota became the first player in NFL history with at least 250 yards and three touchdowns passing and 100 yards rushing in the same game.

Mariota reached a maximum speed of 19.25 mph on his 87-yard touchdown scamper, his ninth-fastest speed this season. Unlike Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown in which he simply out-sprinted the Vikings' defense back in 2012, Mariota's long run was more attributable to poor defense and timely downfield blocking.
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If there was ever a time to open up the jets that was it, but it was only his NINTH fastest speed this season? Something isn't right. Maybe his knee hasn't fully healed.
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He said his friends teased him he's out of shape

 
274 yards is pretty remarkable.

Michael was trying for some unknown record of worst play-calling ever and the Jets trying to be the best D ever....idk how Mariota did that.

 
Bri said:
Air Stich said:
I've got some tough lineup decisions this week... I'm not going to regret dropping Mariota am I?

It's him or Luck.
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Luck isn't playing, just practicing

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/12/16/andrew-luck-returns-practice/77419760/
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I mean to DROP.

I'm the number one seed in my league, but my team has been falling apart around me. I've got Rivers, Cousins, Mariotta, and Luck. I'll flip a coin for Rivers vs Cousins on Sunday, but I need to make a roster move tonight.

 
Air Stich said:
Bri said:
Air Stich said:
I've got some tough lineup decisions this week... I'm not going to regret dropping Mariota am I?

It's him or Luck.
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Luck isn't playing, just practicinghttp://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/12/16/andrew-luck-returns-practice/77419760/
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I mean to DROP.

I'm the number one seed in my league, but my team has been falling apart around me. I've got Rivers, Cousins, Mariotta, and Luck. I'll flip a coin for Rivers vs Cousins on Sunday, but I need to make a roster move tonight.
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So you're not even considering playing Mariota?

 
Got a rebuild where I earned the #1 pick (woo!) but am now fighting for a money prize in the consolation bracket. Debating between Mariota and McCarron. Have Maziel as well but haven't considered him with that matchup.

 
Just to clear something up that is somewhat odd- When people discuss Mariota in college and a potential Titans new coach.,..this stuff comes up.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/marcus-mariota-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/chip-kelly-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/mark-helfrich-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/norm-chow-1.html

Norm Chow was not his college coach.

He never led Hawaii U to anything

Kelly didn't coach him more than anyone

And apparently no one knows who Mark Helfrich is.

 
Mariota will not play in week 17

Many called this without watching the play where he got injured or the game and that was the most bogus call ever. Please don't give them credit. It didn't look bad. He was on the sideline hoping to go back in. To make that statement as if OMG it's so bad he'll be out three weeks was horrible and evidence they weren't watching. He tried braces on, threw some balls, then halftime came. He was expected for second half til they made the announcement.

He wanted to go back in that game.

He wanted to play last week but was resigned to sitting a week for rest.

He was looking forward to this week and....Titans cancelled his presser and Mularkey announced he won't play.

I don't like how they handled it. He is the most well spoken good natured calm(peaceful?) QB. Whomever saw him speaking as a risk, needs to be fired. He's the face of the franchise and with good reason- ya don't silence that and allow all the grumpy on our way out guys to talk.

 
Gandalf said:
menobrown said:
FUBAR said:
Don said:
jurb26 said:
CalBear said:
Capella said:
He's starting to look a bit Alex Smith-y to me.
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Alex Smith, really? Alex Smith has started 122 games. He has thrown for more than 3 TDs twice; it took Mariota 6 games to accomplish that. Mariota is a full yard per attempt higher than Smith's career numbers, and two yards per attempt higher than Smith's rookie year. Marcus' passer rating as a rookie is higher than 9 of Smith's 10 seasons.

I mean, really, I can't imagine a worse comparison. Maybe to Jamarcus Russell.
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Lots of people have compared his skill set to that of Smith for a while now.
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Ummmm....no
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they have compared him to Colin Kaepernick; which isn't a ringing endorsement.
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And also comped to Aaron Rodgers and while he's not there of course he's looks like he's closer to having the ability to get to that kind of level than regress down to Smith or Kaepernick levels.
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I think of him more as a rich man's Kaepernick or what Kaepernick could be if he had elite accuracy
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I would have agreed with you before the season but not any longer. I think the Rodgers comp was as close to accurate as anyone QB in the game.

In particular for these reasons.

1. Composure

2. Accuracy

3. Movement/athletic ability inside the pocket

4. Eyes always up even when on the move

As far as I'm concerned a guy like Kaepernick, who I think can still be a starting QB in this league, at best had elements of trait #3 and that's it. And reason I say "at best" is because while I think Kaepernick is a great athlete I don't think he moved around inside the pocket as well as Mariotta. And Mariotta does not do it nearly as well as Rodgers but I see that kind of ability.

 
Wonderful potential with what seems like a great head on his shoulders.

It's crazy to say anything negative about him today. Perfect reaction to mistakes, often times overcame them. A very obvious student of the game that improves quickly.

Arm, legs....absolutely the whole package.

There's a long list of promising rookie QBs that didn't do as well in year two and seemed on a declining path.

Today though- what more could you ask from a rook with that team around him?

It's onto the Titans to add better linemen(and OL coach!) and give him better WRs and a run game. Most importantly, a new coach and OC he is comfortable with or will be in a brief time.

That list of promising rookie QBs that don't do well in year two is oh so often because of a weak offensive line and then that issue exposes others and bad habits develop and...it's usually a tipping point in year two. With their ton of cap room they ought to be able to sign a free agent or two and not rely on yet another promising young lineman. Time to add a sure thing or two and spend some $.

 
Bri said:
Wonderful potential with what seems like a great head on his shoulders.

It's crazy to say anything negative about him today. Perfect reaction to mistakes, often times overcame them. A very obvious student of the game that improves quickly.

Arm, legs....absolutely the whole package.

There's a long list of promising rookie QBs that didn't do as well in year two and seemed on a declining path.

Today though- what more could you ask from a rook with that team around him?

It's onto the Titans to add better linemen(and OL coach!) and give him better WRs and a run game. Most importantly, a new coach and OC he is comfortable with or will be in a brief time.

That list of promising rookie QBs that don't do well in year two is oh so often because of a weak offensive line and then that issue exposes others and bad habits develop and...it's usually a tipping point in year two. With their ton of cap room they ought to be able to sign a free agent or two and not rely on yet another promising young lineman. Time to add a sure thing or two and spend some $.
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Chip Kelly would sure make things interesting.

But either way, I view Mariota as maybe the highest upside young QB in the game right now. Given his football IQ and athletic ability, his potential is off the charts. It will be incumbent upon Tenn to surround him with the right pieces. I love the potential DGB brings to the table; with another year under his belt, and another year working with Mariota, this is a duo I am betting on heavy.

 
Faust said:
Why running less shotgun with Marcus Mariota doesn't add up
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This has been discussed a lot, it's been dissected way too much in 24 hours.

He was asked a leading Q how Murray does worse in the gun(other sites stats contradict FO there) and he simply replied and smiled then we won't run him out of the gun as much. (Of course he said replied as such) I think he said 20-25 carries, GM said 20-30 carries per game. One of them said he has proven he can be a 3 down back.

It was so NOT digging into how their new O would be but "hey meet the new guy."

It was streamed, it might even be on the Titans site. 

To date the only thing Mularkey has discussed in detail (and Wyatt reiterated IIRC) is that Mariota ran like a very wise QB that knows how to protect himself when he runs. They didn't expect he'd do it so well and were very impressed. He said they're going to run him far more and something like "if there's a QB run play, we're gonna run it."

Mularkey and his new assistants were to develop a base offense, watch film, discuss etc. AFTER free agency they'd adjust things to players strengths and it would develop from there. The draft would bring some changes too. So we don't even know if they really even have a new offense yet to be discussing the gun in this detail.

I think it was Wyatt, asked on radio will they run the option, run this, run that, and he said everything and reiterated what Mularkey said. The host said how this is a huge step up from Whisenhunt's predictability and would finally put defenses on their toes, make them spend more time preparing etc.

After a break the host said the training wheels are coming off and...I like that phrase. 

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Gotta slow down here. Keep in mind we don't even know who the top 3 WRs are. Maybe pencil in Walker for a lot of work and some obvious things but, give the guys time here.

The problem with everything shotgun and Eagles related is how the Eagles blocked up front. Cosell called Murray an I back and I pasted what he said in the Murray thread. They didn't block in a way that suited him, he doesn't have great vision but hits holes hard and fights for more yards after contact. The Eagles played as if he was smooth with McCoy's vision. They could have lined him up any which way and as long as the blocking was as such, it wouldn't have mattered.

 
 


Marcus Mariota has added 15 pounds of muscle this offseason, going from 210 to 225.
Mariota said he wants to be "sturdier." He's confident of maintaining his speed despite the added heft. Mariota suffered two MCL injuries as a rookie, and clearly believes he was too slight. Adding more weight adds more pressure to his joints, of course, but 225 pounds is far from crazy for a 6-foot-4 quarterback, even a running one. He was listed at 222 at the Combine. It shouldn't have an adverse effect on Mariota's play.

 
 
Source: Terry McCormick on Twitter 
May 24 - 1:46 PM




 


 
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