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QB Match Ups to Exploit/Avoid week 8 (1 Viewer)

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Detroit at Chicago

Jon Kitna: Last time the two teams faced each other Kitna went for 247/2TD, but most of it was in the 4th quarter and Chicago was missing both starting CB at the time. The Bears have not been pathetic against the pass, they have been torn up on the ground. With Kevin Jones coming back, it would appear Detroit will try to run the ball at least some to take the pressure of the passing game. Kitna has been a mixed bag this season but there is no real reason he can’t duplicate what he did the 1st time around. I am concerned that as the running game gets better that it will ease the numbers of Kitna a little bit. Flip side to that would be that the running game should make the passing game more effective.

Brian Griese: A great start this week. 10 TD vs 3 Int are the Linos pass defense over the last 4 games. Griese put up almost 300 yds and 2 TD despite his 3 interceptions in his 1st full under Center a few weeks ago against these Lions. Griese is avg 300 yds and 2 TD a week since he took over. He has tossed 6 interceptions along the way as well. Nice solid start this week. Also the Bears cannot run the ball so they need griese to win the games for them.

Indy at Carolina

Peyton Manning: He has 2 pretty nice starts this year and 4 other games where he is just sort of average. 250/TD, or maybe 250/2TD…nothing that is single handedly winning games for owners. Carolina has not given up a passing TD since week 3…that will change this weekend.

David Carr/Vinny Testaverde: Neither is a good play against the Indy cover 2 system they run. They are 1st in the league allowing only 160 a game…people will point to the fact they can be run against…fine but teams are not beating themrunning the football so eventually they get tired of that and take to the air when they fall behind…Indy has a sound passing defense because of their great DL play which can get pressure on the QB. VInny will have no where to run and neither will David Carr. I expect about 4-5 sacks from the Colts “D” in this contest.

Cleveland at St Louis

Derek Anderson: I talked about it last week when Hass was being toggled around as a bench player for the week and I said he would find success and he did with almost 200 yds and 2 TD in that contest. Anderson will find success as well. St Louis was tattooed by Delhomme in week 1 and Romo…they were OK against the likes of Warner/Leinart where matt went down, Alex Smith, Kyle Boller…I like Anderson and the suddenly potent passing game of Cleveland much better than the rest of those guys right now. Anderson has been wasted bench points so many weeks and with 6 teams on bye weeks this weekend, he has to be a play for some of you.

Marc Bulger: The match up looks good but he still cannot get anything going. Seattle is not that great against the pass and he floundered. Probably still nursing injuries but that’s not my problem nor should it be yours. He has caused so many losses for owners this season, how can you trust him to deliver this week against the Browns?

Oakland at Tennessee

CulPepper/McCown: Word is that if McCown is healthy he is starting. I don’t like either this week as the Titans until the 4th quarter of last week have been pretty lights out all the way around on defense. Credit Jeff Fisher for once again showing why he is one of the best player evaluation coaches in the National Football League…boy he would have looked nice in a Miami Dolphins shirt when he was thought gone a year or two ago. Guy simply knows how to evaluate talent and get the most out of his defenses. Oh yeah…bench DC and McCown this weekend.

Vince Young: Supposed to be starting. I am cautiously optimistic that he can do well this weekend. Might want to leave him on the bench another week as the QB position has not been lighting it up on Oakland as of late. Rivers didn’t have a TD, Huard was OK last week, Miami was basically shut down by Oakland…Young is a very iffy play this week. 3 TD vs 8 Int over the past 5 games for Oakland.

Philly at Minnesota

Donovan McNabb: 5 of the 7 games for the Vikes defense the opposing QB has had 1 or ZERO TD in the game. Everyone likes to rip apart their secondary as being so bad…Favre and Griese had big days…Griese was playing form behind. Romo was OK last week but didn’t tear them apart. McNabb has struggled most of the season. This is not the green light that some want to believe it is.

TJax/K.Holcomb: Either of them is a waste in your starting line up. Doesn’t matter what the match up is, sorry.

Pittsburgh at Cincinnati

Big Ben: Coming off a terrific game last week, all signs would point to him having a nice day this weekend. With all the bye weeks, he is almost a must start in most leagues. I think 250/2 TD is well within his grasp this week against the Bengals who let Chad flippin Pennington torch them for 3 scores last week.

Carson Palmer: Should always be in your line up. I can only think of a handful of Qb or potential plays this week that would make me bench him. Pittsburgh secondary has been tough as nails but they let Cutler do a lot of damage to them last week.

New York Giants at Miami Dolphins…World Bowl in London

Eli Manning: Should be able to systematically crucify the Miami secondary this weekend. I expect him to have if not his best, close to his best performance of the season. Only downside is Zach Thomas likely will not be making the trip and that means the running lanes will be open all day for Jacobs, Ward, and anyone else they want to throw at Miami. This is a great match up for Manning.

Cleo Lemon: Can’t wait to see who he can get killed on interception returns this weekend. We don’t have a starter left hardly that we had week 1…owning a Miami Dolphin is scary business right now. Miami will wish they never got on the plane by about halftime in this one.

Buffalo at NY Jets

Trent Edwards: He has played OK but I don’t think Losman should have been pushed to the bench so fast. The match up is nice but are you really going to roll this rookie out this week? You would have to be really desperate in a start 1 QB league to do this but I guess I can see how some might. He’s as big a risk to lay an egg as he is to post 200/2 TD which is about the best you could hope for.

Chad Pennington: Does get the nod for yet another week. The Bills give up almost 300 yards and 2 TD a week thru the air so Pennington should fare well this week.

Houston at San Diego

Sage Rosenfels: I am assuming Schaub will sit this one out. I know Sage had a nice 4th quarter last week but I wouldn’t count on a repeat performance against the suddenly strong looking San Diego Chargers.

Phillip Rivers: I do like the match up and the addition of Chambers for him. I expect his numbers to go up the rest of the way. I would play him without hesitation this week however the Chargers have been in the middle of these wildfires…I understand they are paid professionals but they are human too and many of them know folks that have lost their homes…it does have an impact on the mind. Hoping they win one for the folks in San Diego this weekend.

Jax at Tampa Bay

Quinn Gray: No Way!

Jeff Garcia: This will not be easy for Garcia and company. Jax only allows about 215 yards a game and 4 TD total on the season. This is not a good match up for Garcia however I expect him to be working off a short field set up by the Bucs defense as they tear Quinn apart.

Washington at New England

Jason Campbell: He will have some opps to put points up on Sunday. I expect NE to have a much harder time than they have had all season moving the ball. To this point they have looked like an NFL team taking on middle to upper class high school football teams…just hasn’t been pretty. Wouldn’t be my 1st choice at Qb this week but I expect the Skins to be in the game so I expect Campbell to produce somewhat.

Tom Brady: Still will have good numbers this weekend but not the usually 300/5TD performances we have grown accustomed to seeing as of late. Some of you will try to earn your MBA in FF this weekend and bench Brady for a better match up…don’t be one of those people.

New Orleans at San Fran

Drew Brees: Avg 225/2TD the past 2 weeks. He should be alright this weekend. San Fran is not terrible against the pass but they are not world beaters as of late either. Brees should at least score this weekend.

Alex Smith/Trent Dilfer: Bench either or both of these guys. Match up looks inviting but the Qb situation here dictates you not playing them right now.

Green Bay at Denver

Brett Favre: I don’t expect big numbers form him in Mile High this weekend. Big Ben was nice last week but I think Champ Bailey was injured in that game and he may or may not play this weekend. Favre has cooled off a bit the past few weeks too. 1 TD vs 4 Int the past 2 weeks…not good.

Jay Cutler: Had a great game last week but the 5-6 weeks before that were pretty average at best. I don’t trust him enough to start him blindly every week. Other than Rivers they have pretty much kept most Qb down this year. Cutler will ne middle of the pack this week.

Good luck this weekend...chime in and post your thoughts about the match ups this week.

 
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Great piece here and very useful. I am forced to go with McNabb this week....tried to trade for Anderson but owner wouldn't bite.

 
I've had Anderson on my bench all season, with Hassle on bye Im trotting him out there.

Andersons matchup appears to be golden, but for some reason Im leary

 
1- :thumbup: on this format.....(didn't like the other format as much)

2- Philly passing to struggle: Thanks.....that was very helpful regarding the Minn defense. Convincing argument not to gamble on Philly if you have other options.

3- Garcia probably having several short fields to work with: good call.....I see a lot of Garcia opportunity, but Matt Bryant might be the biggest beneficiary.

 
1- :lmao: on this format.....(didn't like the other format as much)2- Philly passing to struggle: Thanks.....that was very helpful regarding the Minn defense. Convincing argument not to gamble on Philly if you have other options.3- Garcia probably having several short fields to work with: good call.....I see a lot of Garcia opportunity, but Matt Bryant might be the biggest beneficiary.
Thanks Nemesis, really appreciate what you highlighted. All the subscribers can get good match up bad match up from FBG, but I think you have to look at the overall picture a little bit too. What kind of filed position might you anticipate...if you give an NFL Qb enough opps from the 50 yard line or into enemy territory, eventually they are going to score.
 
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1- :lmao: on this format.....(didn't like the other format as much)2- Philly passing to struggle: Thanks.....that was very helpful regarding the Minn defense. Convincing argument not to gamble on Philly if you have other options.3- Garcia probably having several short fields to work with: good call.....I see a lot of Garcia opportunity, but Matt Bryant might be the biggest beneficiary.
:lmao: and Ditto for points 1 and 2. :shrug: I had a toss up with Big Ben and McNabb and b/c of the matchups, I am planning on letting Ben take the helm of my FF team this week.
 
1- :thumbup: on this format.....(didn't like the other format as much)2- Philly passing to struggle: Thanks.....that was very helpful regarding the Minn defense. Convincing argument not to gamble on Philly if you have other options.3- Garcia probably having several short fields to work with: good call.....I see a lot of Garcia opportunity, but Matt Bryant might be the biggest beneficiary.
:eek: and Ditto for points 1 and 2. :thumbup: I had a toss up with Big Ben and McNabb and b/c of the matchups, I am planning on letting Ben take the helm of my FF team this week.
I like this format too...I might bring back the other some weeks to change it up a bit but this is easier and faster to digest and get to the bantering back and forth where we can go deeper as we need to and the match up warrants it.
 
I'm stuck with Kitna. No way I go Campbell against NE. Just have to hope the Detroit Yo-Yo is on its way back up.

 
1- :lmao: on this format.....(didn't like the other format as much)

2- Philly passing to struggle: Thanks.....that was very helpful regarding the Minn defense. Convincing argument not to gamble on Philly if you have other options.

3- Garcia probably having several short fields to work with: good call.....I see a lot of Garcia opportunity, but Matt Bryant might be the biggest beneficiary.
:goodposting: and Ditto for points 1 and 2. :lmao: I had a toss up with Big Ben and McNabb and b/c of the matchups, I am planning on letting Ben take the helm of my FF team this week.
I like this format too...I might bring back the other some weeks to change it up a bit but this is easier and faster to digest and get to the bantering back and forth where we can go deeper as we need to and the match up warrants it.
Why don't you just combine the two formats?Cleveland:

Week 1: Big Ben 12/23, 161, 4TD

Week 2: Palmer 33/50, 401, 6TD/2INT

Week 3: McPepp 14/26, 226, TD

Week 4: McNair 34/53, 307, TD/INT

Week 5: Brady 22/38, 265, 3 TD

Week 6: Cleo Lemon, Pass: 24 - 43 - 256 - 2 TD / 2 INT

Week 7: Bye

Week 8: Marc Bulger: The match up looks good but he still cannot get anything going. Seattle is not that great against the pass and he floundered. Probably still nursing injuries but that’s not my problem nor should it be yours. He has caused so many losses for owners this season, how can you trust him to deliver this week against the Browns?

 
jurrassic said:
Ben over Griese this week. I love Ben's matchup but I am worried Pitt might get back to the running game.
I too am concerned about Pitt going to the running game, especially if their D is holding up to Cinc's offensive assault.I just hope Im not over thinking it.
 
Hey MOP, the real question is: who do you like better this week, Palmer or Griese.

I just can't bring myself to bench Palmer, but I so desperately want to do so because I think Griese is going to have a field day on Sunday. Thoughts?

 
Hey MOP similar problem to Silver & Black, I have Palmer but also have Eli Manning. Should I bench Palmer for Eli this week? Thanks

 
Hey MOP similar problem to Silver & Black, I have Palmer but also have Eli Manning. Should I bench Palmer for Eli this week? Thanks
Tell me what you like about each Qb and then I will help you out...we can't make this a full blown WDIS thread or the board police start having coniption fits of the third kind.
 
Well denver did find a way to pass on the steelers on monday, and in my opinion Cinci's WR's are alot better than denver's. And they should be throwing alot since steeler's run D is pretty stout. But in Eli's case the miami dolphins just got lit up by the patriots. I'm not saying that the pats and giants are on the same level offensively but Plax, Shockey, and even toomer should get open often.

Thanks

 
Well denver did find a way to pass on the steelers on monday, and in my opinion Cinci's WR's are alot better than denver's. And they should be throwing alot since steeler's run D is pretty stout. But in Eli's case the miami dolphins just got lit up by the patriots. I'm not saying that the pats and giants are on the same level offensively but Plax, Shockey, and even toomer should get open often. Thanks
Miami has allowed something like 12 TD to 3 Int on the season...they are terrible and opposing Qbs have a 110 passer rating on them...I think Eli should light them up for about 250/3TD on Sunday, the Giants should be able to do anything they want to Miami this weekend.
 
Finally some tasty matchups for my QBs.

Big Ben: Cincy is horrible against the pass and the run. I, like some of the other folks in this tread, is worried that the running game will be firing on all cylinders, and that the Steelers will run the ball constantly to keep the Cincy offense off the field, leading to a low mistake, but low production day from Big Ben...

Derek Anderson, my other QB, however, also has a great matchup. DA has been producing no matter who he's played this season, chugging the ball all over the field.

This is a really hard decision, who do you think is the better bet MOP? I think Big Ben is safer in the sense that he won't kill your team, and even though big Ben is ranked higher everywhere I've seen, I still think DA might put up the better stats sunday...

 
Finally some tasty matchups for my QBs. Big Ben: Cincy is horrible against the pass and the run. I, like some of the other folks in this tread, is worried that the running game will be firing on all cylinders, and that the Steelers will run the ball constantly to keep the Cincy offense off the field, leading to a low mistake, but low production day from Big Ben...Derek Anderson, my other QB, however, also has a great matchup. DA has been producing no matter who he's played this season, chugging the ball all over the field. This is a really hard decision, who do you think is the better bet MOP? I think Big Ben is safer in the sense that he won't kill your team, and even though big Ben is ranked higher everywhere I've seen, I still think DA might put up the better stats sunday...
Both of those guys have tasty matchups for the rest of the season, and usually opposite of each other.
 
I know The Rams have`nt given us much reason to believe they could do well in this weeks game but considering the opponent and the fact that Bulger has ALL his weapons on the field plus they are at home , i cant imagine on pride alone the rams could`nt win this game in a shootout....i say Bulger does VERY well fantasy wise this week.

 
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I know The Rams have`nt given us much reason to believe they could do well in this weeks game but considering the opponent and the fact that Bulger has ALL his weapons on the field plus they are at home , i cant imagine on pride alone the rams could`nt win this game in a shootout....i say Bulger does VERY well fantasy wise this week.
I would love to say the same thing, but I think pride for the Rams is already out of the window. And he has all of his weapons but his offensive line, which is really offensive right now.
 
Miami has allowed something like 12 TD to 3 Int on the season...they are terrible and opposing Qbs have a 110 passer rating on them...I think Eli should light them up for about 250/3TD on Sunday, the Giants should be able to do anything they want to Miami this weekend.

thanks alot, i'll start Eli with confidence this week :goodposting:

 
I know The Rams have`nt given us much reason to believe they could do well in this weeks game but considering the opponent and the fact that Bulger has ALL his weapons on the field plus they are at home , i cant imagine on pride alone the rams could`nt win this game in a shootout....i say Bulger does VERY well fantasy wise this week.
I would love to say the same thing, but I think pride for the Rams is already out of the window. And he has all of his weapons but his offensive line, which is really offensive right now.
If they are`nt playing for pride then would`nt they be sitting the stars who are dinged up...call it a day and start thinking about next year ? I know they pay these guys to play but it`s also an investment the owners have in the guys like S.J and Bulger. If the Rams were playing the Steelers this weekend i would agree that they are toast..but it`s the brown`s bro`.....the Rams are still a profesional football team and they are men with PRIDE.
 
QBS are so unpredictable this year. So many inconsistent QBs thats its hard to know who to start, and unless you're getting Brady or Peyton, it is even diificult to know who to target in a trade. Somone like Campbell looks great in week 6, and then he looks awful the next week. Cutler has been throwing up bad games the past few weeks, but then against Pitt Def has a great game. These are my QBs and I've been suffering by trying to ride the hothand.

 
I'm excited about the Eli Manning matchup this week. Only fear is that New York gets so ahead quickly that they just run it down Miami's throats and kill the clock which they should do with ease. Hopefully the first few td's are passing ones, not rushing ones, because Eli might not be throwing it up much later in the game.

The best scenario is Miami does put up some pts to at least get a semi shootout going...

 
I'm excited about the Eli Manning matchup this week. Only fear is that New York gets so ahead quickly that they just run it down Miami's throats and kill the clock which they should do with ease. Hopefully the first few td's are passing ones, not rushing ones, because Eli might not be throwing it up much later in the game. The best scenario is Miami does put up some pts to at least get a semi shootout going...
:goodposting: I don't think it's necessarily a great matchup for the reason you stated. Giants up by 3 touchdowns at half and basically pound Miami with Jacobs and Ward in the second half. The Niners game was supposed to be a good matchup for Eli too and he minimal yards passing in the 2nd half. I'm starting Griese over him even though most cheatsheets have Eli ranked much higher this week.
 
Great stuff MOP as usual. Love this every week.

I too am faced with the decision of Eli vs Palmer.

Until today I was with no doubt starting Eli. Then it hit me like others have posted, how many times do teams with great passing matchups only fizzle because they get ahead a few scores early and kill the clock.

The question you have to ask yourself is are the Dolphins good enough to be competitive vs. the Giants?

And are the Bengals good enough to pass and pass well against the Steelers?

I'll look at Miami v Giants first:

The Dolphins are not the worst team in the league imo, that is the Rams.

Since Lemon took over at QB. The Phins have posted about 30 points per game.

The D has given up less than 30 points only once.

The Giants have been pretty stingy with points since week 3. They have only given up over 20 points once. (To the Jets)

The Giants have also scored (not all offense) over 30 points 4 times this year.

However, Manning has only passed for over 300 2 times with 4 multiple TD games. (Also less than 200 in 3 games)

Ward is banged up. Jacobs is still returning from injury.

There is a chance this game is a blow out.

Now the Bengals v Pittsburgh

Palmer has thrown over 300 yds 3 times this year once for 400. Never once less than 200. He has only 3 multi TD games.

Against the Steelers over last 3 years Palmer has averaged 204.5 yds and 2 TDs.

The Steelers D is 3rd overall in passing yds allowed despite last week with 174.8 yds / game.

They have only allowed 78 points which is 1st in the league.

Kenny Watson has given the Bengals ground game a boost, but the Steelers are 3rd against the run.

This game will, imo, remain competitive or the Bengals will be coming from behind.

Now to answer my original questions:

Are the Dolphins good enough to be competitive vs. the Giants?

Yes with Cleo Lemon, most definitely.

Are the Bengals good enough to pass and pass well against the Steelers?

Yes. It can be done and Palmer is probably the man to do it.

So now what to do?

If Palmer meets his average vs. the Steelers he'll at minimum post 18 points. Not bad, not great.

If Manning posts his average for the year, 218 yds and 1.9 TDs he'll get you 18-19 points.

My conclusion:

Manning, at minimum gets you 18-19 points vs. regular teams. This week is not a regular team. With the running game a little banged up Manning will throw more in this game. The Dolphins will make a game of it just like they kept the Pats scoring. Manning's floor is 18 and ceiling is 30.

Palmer, at best will get you the 18 points I talked about. At worst his floor is probably 12 and ceiling is probably 20.

Take Eli this week.

Opinions?

 
The issue for the dolphins is that I don't believe they have any real offensive threats with the loss of Brown and Chambers. And add in the Giant's fast D I don't see Cleo Lemon being able to scramble like he usually does for the occasional TD. Unlike the steelers and Bengals game I think Palmer will score more points in my opinion because I don't believe Coughlin will put Manning back in if the game is a blowout. Also add in the fact that Zach Thomas is questionable to play I think Giants will just run the ball after they take a sizable lead. So i'm leaning more towards Palmer for now.

 
GAME PLAN: Coughlin never gives away any of his upcoming game plan, but a few of the players on offense have indicated that passing the ball might be their first option since the Dolphins secondary is not only banged up (safety Renaldo Hill is out for the season) but wasn't playing well when healthy.

But the Miami defense is ranked 31st (next to last) in the NFL against the rush, and the Giants have been running the ball with ever-increasing success. They are 10th in the NFL in that category.

Giants QB Eli Manning and WR Plaxico Burress vs. Dolphins secondary, notably former Giant CB Will Allen. Burress has caught eight TD passes and has 35 grabs for 550 yards. Then, Manning will try to connect with TE Jeremy Shockey vs. Miami SS Jason Allen and LBs Joey Porter and Zach Thomas; if Shockey (28-332) draws double coverage, Burress and flanker Amani Toomer will be more likely to isolate on a single defender.

:popcorn:

 
Finally some tasty matchups for my QBs. Big Ben: Cincy is horrible against the pass and the run. I, like some of the other folks in this tread, is worried that the running game will be firing on all cylinders, and that the Steelers will run the ball constantly to keep the Cincy offense off the field, leading to a low mistake, but low production day from Big Ben...Derek Anderson, my other QB, however, also has a great matchup. DA has been producing no matter who he's played this season, chugging the ball all over the field. This is a really hard decision, who do you think is the better bet MOP? I think Big Ben is safer in the sense that he won't kill your team, and even though big Ben is ranked higher everywhere I've seen, I still think DA might put up the better stats sunday...
Hi Arnold, I like Derek Anderson slightly more. In fact it is almost assumed he will have to throw some for them to win the game...Cleveland could be 4-3 after Sunday.
 
I'm excited about the Eli Manning matchup this week. Only fear is that New York gets so ahead quickly that they just run it down Miami's throats and kill the clock which they should do with ease. Hopefully the first few td's are passing ones, not rushing ones, because Eli might not be throwing it up much later in the game. The best scenario is Miami does put up some pts to at least get a semi shootout going...
:mellow: I don't think it's necessarily a great matchup for the reason you stated. Giants up by 3 touchdowns at half and basically pound Miami with Jacobs and Ward in the second half. The Niners game was supposed to be a good matchup for Eli too and he minimal yards passing in the 2nd half. I'm starting Griese over him even though most cheatsheets have Eli ranked much higher this week.
Is this the same guy as Jim Otto the original?I think Eli was just a normal play last weekend mostly because the Niners have not been getting torched in their secondary with the play of Nate Clements. I still think Eli is a very strong start this week. Shockey, Toomer, and Plax are licking their chops to put up a Randy Moss/Wes Welker performance on Miami.
 
Great stuff MOP as usual. Love this every week.I too am faced with the decision of Eli vs Palmer.Until today I was with no doubt starting Eli. Then it hit me like others have posted, how many times do teams with great passing matchups only fizzle because they get ahead a few scores early and kill the clock.The question you have to ask yourself is are the Dolphins good enough to be competitive vs. the Giants?And are the Bengals good enough to pass and pass well against the Steelers?I'll look at Miami v Giants first:The Dolphins are not the worst team in the league imo, that is the Rams.Since Lemon took over at QB. The Phins have posted about 30 points per game.The D has given up less than 30 points only once.The Giants have been pretty stingy with points since week 3. They have only given up over 20 points once. (To the Jets)The Giants have also scored (not all offense) over 30 points 4 times this year.However, Manning has only passed for over 300 2 times with 4 multiple TD games. (Also less than 200 in 3 games)Ward is banged up. Jacobs is still returning from injury.There is a chance this game is a blow out.Now the Bengals v PittsburghPalmer has thrown over 300 yds 3 times this year once for 400. Never once less than 200. He has only 3 multi TD games.Against the Steelers over last 3 years Palmer has averaged 204.5 yds and 2 TDs.The Steelers D is 3rd overall in passing yds allowed despite last week with 174.8 yds / game.They have only allowed 78 points which is 1st in the league.Kenny Watson has given the Bengals ground game a boost, but the Steelers are 3rd against the run.This game will, imo, remain competitive or the Bengals will be coming from behind.Now to answer my original questions:Are the Dolphins good enough to be competitive vs. the Giants?Yes with Cleo Lemon, most definitely.Are the Bengals good enough to pass and pass well against the Steelers?Yes. It can be done and Palmer is probably the man to do it.So now what to do?If Palmer meets his average vs. the Steelers he'll at minimum post 18 points. Not bad, not great.If Manning posts his average for the year, 218 yds and 1.9 TDs he'll get you 18-19 points.My conclusion: Manning, at minimum gets you 18-19 points vs. regular teams. This week is not a regular team. With the running game a little banged up Manning will throw more in this game. The Dolphins will make a game of it just like they kept the Pats scoring. Manning's floor is 18 and ceiling is 30. Palmer, at best will get you the 18 points I talked about. At worst his floor is probably 12 and ceiling is probably 20.Take Eli this week. Opinions?
:mellow: :goodposting:
 
I'm excited about the Eli Manning matchup this week. Only fear is that New York gets so ahead quickly that they just run it down Miami's throats and kill the clock which they should do with ease. Hopefully the first few td's are passing ones, not rushing ones, because Eli might not be throwing it up much later in the game. The best scenario is Miami does put up some pts to at least get a semi shootout going...
:football: I don't think it's necessarily a great matchup for the reason you stated. Giants up by 3 touchdowns at half and basically pound Miami with Jacobs and Ward in the second half. The Niners game was supposed to be a good matchup for Eli too and he minimal yards passing in the 2nd half. I'm starting Griese over him even though most cheatsheets have Eli ranked much higher this week.
Is this the same guy as Jim Otto the original?I think Eli was just a normal play last weekend mostly because the Niners have not been getting torched in their secondary with the play of Nate Clements. I still think Eli is a very strong start this week. Shockey, Toomer, and Plax are licking their chops to put up a Randy Moss/Wes Welker performance on Miami.
Well, the real Jim Otto died recently. The original Jim Otto to post on this site and myself overlapped and I haven't seen him post in a couple or few years. I was once Jim 0tt0 (using zeros not o's) Shick or one of his cronies changed my name to Jim Otto#2 without telling me.... I don't like it much, but I'm stuck with it.
 
Houston at San Diego

Sage Rosenfels: I am assuming Schaub will sit this one out. I know Sage had a nice 4th quarter last week but I wouldn’t count on a repeat performance against the suddenly strong looking San Diego Chargers.

Phillip Rivers: I do like the match up and the addition of Chambers for him. I expect his numbers to go up the rest of the way. I would play him without hesitation this week however the Chargers have been in the middle of these wildfires…I understand they are paid professionals but they are human too and many of them know folks that have lost their homes…it does have an impact on the mind. Hoping they win one for the folks in San Diego this weekend.
MOP,Thoughts on if Matt Schaub does play instead of RosenFels? I think anyone facing the SD Defense after a bye week is in for a rough day (my only other option though is Trent Edwards!)

Texans QB Matt Schaub had a full day of practice Friday after a hip injury limited him Wednesday and Thursday. The injury forced him out of the game Week 7 against the Titans. The Texans officially list him as probable for Week 8 at San Diego, but head coach Gary Kubiak said otherwise. "I felt good about what he did today," Kubiak told NFL.com. "As far as going and playing, I’m still going to say it’s a game-time decision because I want to see him do some more for me tomorrow, but he did do his normal work today." If Schaub can't play, Sage Rosenfels would get the start.

(Updated 10/26/2007).
 
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Houston at San Diego

Sage Rosenfels: I am assuming Schaub will sit this one out. I know Sage had a nice 4th quarter last week but I wouldn’t count on a repeat performance against the suddenly strong looking San Diego Chargers.

Phillip Rivers: I do like the match up and the addition of Chambers for him. I expect his numbers to go up the rest of the way. I would play him without hesitation this week however the Chargers have been in the middle of these wildfires…I understand they are paid professionals but they are human too and many of them know folks that have lost their homes…it does have an impact on the mind. Hoping they win one for the folks in San Diego this weekend.
MOP,Thoughts on if Matt Schaub does play instead of RosenFels? I think anyone facing the SD Defense after a bye week is in for a rough day (my only other option though is Trent Edwards!)

Texans QB Matt Schaub had a full day of practice Friday after a hip injury limited him Wednesday and Thursday. The injury forced him out of the game Week 7 against the Titans. The Texans officially list him as probable for Week 8 at San Diego, but head coach Gary Kubiak said otherwise. "I felt good about what he did today," Kubiak told NFL.com. "As far as going and playing, I’m still going to say it’s a game-time decision because I want to see him do some more for me tomorrow, but he did do his normal work today." If Schaub can't play, Sage Rosenfels would get the start.

(Updated 10/26/2007).
It's going to be atougher match uo for them especially down both starting WR...I would not expect a great day but I might start S=either over Trent Edwards who has little upside as a rookie...sorry.
 

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