QB Russell Wilson, NYG (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He has a unique ability of avoiding the big hit. He knows when to slide and when to get out of bounds. Its uncanny.

 

[The Commish]

None of this changes what I posted. Yeah, the Seattle pass blocking may suck, but there are worse O-lines out there and it's not even close. At least he has a running game he can rely on

Guy ranks #15 in rushing yards by himself. Be sure to use the run game as a mark against him.

This is 5 of those yards

You guys have reading comprehension problems

ETA: I need to be clear on something in this regard though. Are you suggesting having a 1200 yard back isn't a big deal to a QB's success?

Not at all. Are you suggesting that a QB who can run in his own right doesn't help a back?

I have no problem admitting that the threat of Lynch in the middle helps Wilson on the edge. Just like vice versa. My problem is when you use the abilities of one to minimize the abilities of the other.

Hoping you are using "you" here as "one" because I didn't do any of that. If you care to see my point, you should go back and read my comments. You've gone down a path and been very liberal with my words to get to the bold. I've not suggested anything....been very clear and black/white with my comments. You should take them at face value. No need to read anything more into them

ETA: I'm glad that this conversation is happening though. Just four years ago "running QBs" weren't thought of as Wilson is being thought of in this thread. These positions not only apply to him, but other QBs in this league that haven't gotten the credit they deserve, so I'm glad to see the sentiment changing.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He scrambles/runs smart. I haven't seen him really take a big hit. In addition to that he is a thick dude.....RG3 is built like a twig.

 

[Synthesizer]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

Wilson has a calm confidence that allows him to take the 5 or 10 yards and then look for the best way to safely end the play. When RG3 was running as a rookie, he was basically sprinting the whole time trying to make multiple guys miss at the same time. And as a result getting blown up regularly.

 

[Paulymaggs]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He scrambles/runs smart. I haven't seen him really take a big hit. In addition to that he is a thick dude.....RG3 is built like a twig.

Wilson has taken hits and stood back up because he is THICK. I believe he weighs in the 220's, and for a 5'10 guy, that is extreme thickness.

And yeah, Griffin is a twig.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He has a unique ability of avoiding the big hit. He knows when to slide and when to get out of bounds. Its uncanny.

Very true. Wilson is so smart, he could make a run down to inside the 5, and instead of chancing taking a major shot and scoring, he'd slide at the 4 knowing they'll score eventually anyway. Contrast that to another running QB like Cam Newton who throws his body around like he's impervious to pain. The one thing I think every time I watch Wilson play is what a great decision maker he is.

 

[Bayhawks]

I have Wilson ranked as my #3 dynasty QB behind Rodgers and Luck. The main reason is that they drafted two WRs last year (Richardson and Norwood) and also tried to trade Percy Harvin for Jordan Cameron and Julius Thomas. While the TE trades were obviously a pipe dream, it tells me that Seattle is serious about significantly upgrading their receiving threats. Richardson and Norwood haven't shown too much this year but it's harder to get a lot of playing time as a rookie WR when you are in a run-heavy offense with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. As long as Lynch is in Seattle and healthy, they will probably stay a run-first team. I'm 50/50 on whether Lynch will be back in 2015 but he's a free agent after that so the chances of him being around in 2016 are minuscule.

Wilson's passing numbers did decline this year but some of that can probably be attributed to losing Golden Tate and not replacing him with another experienced option. Matt Waldman had Norwood and Richardson rated as his #6 and #8 WRs last year so I think it's pretty reasonable to think that at least one of them will be ready for a starter role next year. Wilson isn't he passer that Rodgers and Luck are but he's still very good. I think in the next two years we'll see his passing attempts increase significantly. He'll likely run less but should still contribute on the ground. All that's really separating him from being elite right now are those "dud" games where he only has 15 pass attempts. Those should become fewer and farther between in the future, improving Wilson's floor on game-to-game basis.

That's a good point. Hadn't considered that. Good insight.

Are you a Seattle "homer?" Do you anything about how Norwood and Richardson (especially Richardson) have looked in practice? Is their lack of PT due to just being rookies, or is it because they havne't picked up the playbook, have bad habits, etc?

 

[Bayhawks]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He has a unique ability of avoiding the big hit. He knows when to slide and when to get out of bounds. Its uncanny.

Very true. Wilson is so smart, he could make a run down to inside the 5, and instead of chancing taking a major shot and scoring, he'd slide at the 4 knowing they'll score eventually anyway. Contrast that to another running QB like Cam Newton who throws his body around like he's impervious to pain. The one thing I think every time I watch Wilson play is what a great decision maker he is.

Is that always true, though? I remember one play last night when he has no shot at picking up the 1st, but instead of going down/out of bounds, he took a huge hit.

I hear a lot that he's a "smart runner," but even as a "smart" runner, he's potentially going to take some hits.

 

[bagger]

to wilson.

He should be a nice value play next year too.

 

[fred_1_15301]

to wilson.

He should be a nice value play next year too.

I think the cat is out of the bag. He will and should be drafted as a top 5 (maybe top 3?) fantasy QB.

 

[biju]

I have Wilson ranked as my #3 dynasty QB behind Rodgers and Luck. The main reason is that they drafted two WRs last year (Richardson and Norwood) and also tried to trade Percy Harvin for Jordan Cameron and Julius Thomas. While the TE trades were obviously a pipe dream, it tells me that Seattle is serious about significantly upgrading their receiving threats. Richardson and Norwood haven't shown too much this year but it's harder to get a lot of playing time as a rookie WR when you are in a run-heavy offense with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. As long as Lynch is in Seattle and healthy, they will probably stay a run-first team. I'm 50/50 on whether Lynch will be back in 2015 but he's a free agent after that so the chances of him being around in 2016 are minuscule.

Wilson's passing numbers did decline this year but some of that can probably be attributed to losing Golden Tate and not replacing him with another experienced option. Matt Waldman had Norwood and Richardson rated as his #6 and #8 WRs last year so I think it's pretty reasonable to think that at least one of them will be ready for a starter role next year. Wilson isn't he passer that Rodgers and Luck are but he's still very good. I think in the next two years we'll see his passing attempts increase significantly. He'll likely run less but should still contribute on the ground. All that's really separating him from being elite right now are those "dud" games where he only has 15 pass attempts. Those should become fewer and farther between in the future, improving Wilson's floor on game-to-game basis.

That's a good point. Hadn't considered that. Good insight.

Are you a Seattle "homer?" Do you anything about how Norwood and Richardson (especially Richardson) have looked in practice? Is their lack of PT due to just being rookies, or is it because they havne't picked up the playbook, have bad habits, etc?

I know this wasn't directed at me but I'll take a stab at it anyway...

My understanding is Richardson has really started to take off by showing excellent routes and great hands. I think for him he wasn't getting in games as much because of experience and not being used for special teams, but since Harvin was traded we've used him for kick returns which also got him gametime route experience (the Seahawks value ST highly and if you can't play them, you often don't get activated). I think everyone I've talked to is very optimistic.

For Norwood it's different. He was injured to start the year and again it was tough for him (once healthy) to crack the active list because of Harvin and our need to carry Bryan Walters (punt returns). When he's been active he's been ok at route running but excels at being the big body and making "contested" catches.

With Kearse out for at least week 17 I think we'll see both of them active with Richardson sliding into the #2 spot in 2 wide sets and then get Lockette/Norwood out wide and Richardson sliding inside for 3 and 4 wide sets.

I think 2015 we'll see a lot more of Richardson as he becomes more of the Desean Jackson of our passing game (although temper that notion with the number of times we throw the ball). I like Norwood but he'll need to beat our Kearse and Lockette next season to get real time. And I also semi-expect the Seahawks to draft a WR at some point in the draft...

 

[Tau837]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He has a unique ability of avoiding the big hit. He knows when to slide and when to get out of bounds. Its uncanny.

Very true. Wilson is so smart, he could make a run down to inside the 5, and instead of chancing taking a major shot and scoring, he'd slide at the 4 knowing they'll score eventually anyway. Contrast that to another running QB like Cam Newton who throws his body around like he's impervious to pain. The one thing I think every time I watch Wilson play is what a great decision maker he is.

Is that always true, though? I remember one play last night when he has no shot at picking up the 1st, but instead of going down/out of bounds, he took a huge hit.

I hear a lot that he's a "smart runner," but even as a "smart" runner, he's potentially going to take some hits.

I agree with the notion that Wilson is a smart runner. He seems to run under control. He gets out of bounds at times when guys like RG3 might cut back to the inside to try to gain more yards, but at the cost of taking a hit. If Wilson doesn't score or get out of bounds, he typically gets down and avoids big hits. He also has the best stiff arm I recall seeing from a QB.

Having said that, it is also true that he is going to take hits and is subject to injury because of it. In his first year playing at N.C. State, he got knocked out of one game with a concussion and another game with a sprained knee. The sprained knee came on a scramble near the opponent's goal line, and I think the concussion happened on a read option play.

Overall, he seems very durable, but I agree that it would be ideal for Seattle to improve the OL and targets enough that he can scale back the running.

 

[CapnJB]

Why can he survive being a running QB and RG3 cannot? I know he's more accurate and seems to be a very smart runner, but he is at risk with how much he runs.

He has a unique ability of avoiding the big hit. He knows when to slide and when to get out of bounds. Its uncanny.

Very true. Wilson is so smart, he could make a run down to inside the 5, and instead of chancing taking a major shot and scoring, he'd slide at the 4 knowing they'll score eventually anyway. Contrast that to another running QB like Cam Newton who throws his body around like he's impervious to pain. The one thing I think every time I watch Wilson play is what a great decision maker he is.

Is that always true, though? I remember one play last night when he has no shot at picking up the 1st, but instead of going down/out of bounds, he took a huge hit.

I hear a lot that he's a "smart runner," but even as a "smart" runner, he's potentially going to take some hits.

Which play are you referencing? I just went back and looked at the three runs that he had that didn't result in a first down (or TD) and didn't see any big hits. With 52 seconds left in the half he ran for 4 yards and slid. With 13:23 left in the 3rd he lost his footing and fell (defender landed on him) for no yards. And with 6:55 left in the half he ran for 2 yards to the left and was tackled as he went out of bounds. Didn't see anything I'd consider a huge hit. Not even close.

 

[CapnJB]

And just because I was bored (and have a DVR I can pull video from) I compiled a short video of all six of his runs against the Cards.

I could watch that last TD run a thousand times in a row.

 

[MaxThreshold]

And just because I was bored (and have a DVR I can pull video from) I compiled a short video of all six of his runs against the Cards.

I could watch that last TD run a thousand times in a row.

That last TD run sealed my Championship victory - and I snagged Wilson in the 10th round of our draft.

 

[Hooper31]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

 

[massraider]

Yeah, they should have named Wilson to the AFC squad.

 

[Hooper31]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.

I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.

I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

Yeah I'm not even going to argue that. I love me some Wilson and I would have no problem if he was selected over Ben. The problem that I have is that you seem to be rather nonchalantly dismissing Ben's season (considering he's been statistically better than Luck, Romo and Manning). Wilson should be in but it should not be at the expense of Ben.

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

 

[dollarbill13]

Yeah, they should have named Wilson to the AFC squad.

About that...

I have Wilson ranked as my #3 dynasty QB behind Rodgers and Luck. The main reason is that they drafted two WRs last year (Richardson and Norwood) and also tried to trade Percy Harvin for Jordan Cameron and Julius Thomas. While the TE trades were obviously a pipe dream, it tells me that Seattle is serious about significantly upgrading their receiving threats. Richardson and Norwood haven't shown too much this year but it's harder to get a lot of playing time as a rookie WR when you are in a run-heavy offense with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. As long as Lynch is in Seattle and healthy, they will probably stay a run-first team. I'm 50/50 on whether Lynch will be back in 2015 but he's a free agent after that so the chances of him being around in 2016 are minuscule.

Wilson's passing numbers did decline this year but some of that can probably be attributed to losing Golden Tate and not replacing him with another experienced option. Matt Waldman had Norwood and Richardson rated as his #6 and #8 WRs last year so I think it's pretty reasonable to think that at least one of them will be ready for a starter role next year. Wilson isn't he passer that Rodgers and Luck are but he's still very good. I think in the next two years we'll see his passing attempts increase significantly. He'll likely run less but should still contribute on the ground. All that's really separating him from being elite right now are those "dud" games where he only has 15 pass attempts. Those should become fewer and farther between in the future, improving Wilson's floor on game-to-game basis.

That's a good point. Hadn't considered that. Good insight.Are you a Seattle "homer?" Do you anything about how Norwood and Richardson (especially Richardson) have looked in practice? Is their lack of PT due to just being rookies, or is it because they havne't picked up the playbook, have bad habits, etc?

I know this wasn't directed at me but I'll take a stab at it anyway...

My understanding is Richardson has really started to take off by showing excellent routes and great hands. I think for him he wasn't getting in games as much because of experience and not being used for special teams, but since Harvin was traded we've used him for kick returns which also got him gametime route experience (the Seahawks value ST highly and if you can't play them, you often don't get activated). I think everyone I've talked to is very optimistic.

For Norwood it's different. He was injured to start the year and again it was tough for him (once healthy) to crack the active list because of Harvin and our need to carry Bryan Walters (punt returns). When he's been active he's been ok at route running but excels at being the big body and making "contested" catches.

With Kearse out for at least week 17 I think we'll see both of them active with Richardson sliding into the #2 spot in 2 wide sets and then get Lockette/Norwood out wide and Richardson sliding inside for 3 and 4 wide sets.

I think 2015 we'll see a lot more of Richardson as he becomes more of the Desean Jackson of our passing game (although temper that notion with the number of times we throw the ball). I like Norwood but he'll need to beat our Kearse and Lockette next season to get real time. And I also semi-expect the Seahawks to draft a WR at some point in the draft...

I'm not a Seattle fan but this is probably a fair assessment. I think it's important to keep in mind that many rookie WRs aren't immediate contributors, even in this draft class. I don't know whether Richardson or Norwood will be a star but I think just adding more polished receivers who can fill a role will help Wilson tremendously.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.

I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

Yeah I'm not even going to argue that. I love me some Wilson and I would have no problem if he was selected over Ben. The problem that I have is that you seem to be rather nonchalantly dismissing Ben's season (considering he's been statistically better than Luck, Romo and Manning). Wilson should be in but it should not be at the expense of Ben.

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Ease up there Francis. I thought Rapey McRapelsburger was funny. I'm definitely using that one.

 

[Hooper31]

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Somehow I doubt you're really willing judge someone so harshly over a couple of sentences on a message board.

 

[Neofight]

Come on, gentlemen: WWRD?

 

[fred_1_15301]

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Somehow I doubt you're really willing judge someone so harshly over a couple of sentences on a message board.

My guess is he'd had a few pops and it's not his best hour. Probably be reasonable tomorrow. It's happened to all of us at some point in time or another.

Look I don't really care. The last thing I've been accused of is being overly sensitive but perhaps I was in that post. Although it's curious that you felt the need to respond at all and insinuate that I was under the influence rather than just ignore it.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Somehow I doubt you're really willing judge someone so harshly over a couple of sentences on a message board.

Fair enough. Like I said, I was just surprised seeing that post coming from you. I still consider you to be both mature and knowledgeable but you really should look up Ben's stats. He's very much worthy of being in that game.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.

I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

Yeah I'm not even going to argue that. I love me some Wilson and I would have no problem if he was selected over Ben. The problem that I have is that you seem to be rather nonchalantly dismissing Ben's season (considering he's been statistically better than Luck, Romo and Manning). Wilson should be in but it should not be at the expense of Ben.

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Statistically, Romo has it all over Ben:

TD-INT:

Romo 32-8

Ben 30-8

YPA:

Romo 8.49

Ben 8.13

Passer rating:

Romo 114.4

Ben 103.8

QBR:

Romo 82.3

Ben 73.5

Ben has thrown for a lot more yards, but he has around 170 more attempts, so that is no surprise. However, Romo's superior YPA shows that he is more efficient when he does throw.

Ultimately, Ben should be happy he had those back-to-back 6-TD games, cause he was pretty average in all of the other games combined, but hey, they all count.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

Yeah I'm not even going to argue that. I love me some Wilson and I would have no problem if he was selected over Ben. The problem that I have is that you seem to be rather nonchalantly dismissing Ben's season (considering he's been statistically better than Luck, Romo and Manning). Wilson should be in but it should not be at the expense of Ben.

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Ease up there Francis. I thought Rapey McRapelsburger was funny. I'm definitely using that one.

Good for you?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Rapey McRapelsburger makes the probowl ahead of Wilson.

Blasphemy.

Wow surprised to see this type of post coming from you.

Running joke amongst friends. This probably isn't the best place to share it. No, I don't think Big Ben is really a guy that got away with rape.I think Wilson deserved the nod over Big Ben, but its easily justifiable for Rapey to be in the probowl.

Yeah I'm not even going to argue that. I love me some Wilson and I would have no problem if he was selected over Ben. The problem that I have is that you seem to be rather nonchalantly dismissing Ben's season (considering he's been statistically better than Luck, Romo and Manning). Wilson should be in but it should not be at the expense of Ben.

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Statistically, Romo has it all over Ben:

TD-INT:

Romo 32-8

Ben 30-8

YPA:

Romo 8.49

Ben 8.13

Passer rating:

Romo 114.4

Ben 103.8

QBR:

Romo 82.3

Ben 73.5

Ben has thrown for a lot more yards, but he has around 170 more attempts, so that is no surprise. However, Romo's superior YPA shows that he is more efficient when he does throw.

Ultimately, Ben should be happy he had those back-to-back 6-TD games, cause he was pretty average in all of the other games combined, but hey, they all count.

Yup Romo has been great this year and statistically he's been better than Ben. Agree that I should not have included him in that list but he has compiled those stats with significantly fewer passing attempts compared to Ben. That makes his TD numbers even more impressive but it also helps his completion %. Statistically I think both guys are worthy but I also feel that Wilson should be in the game. Doesn't really matter though--isn't the voting partially just a popularity contest?

 

[MattFancy]

Anybody with Wilson in keeper leagues? Trying to decide if he'll be worth keeping for an 8th next year.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I'm keeping him for $16 in a $250 cap league. I could keep him for a 6th in another league, but I would have to cut one of Cobb 5th, J Thomas 6th or Jeffery 7th.

 

[MattFancy]

I'm keeping him for $16 in a $250 cap league. I could keep him for a 6th in another league, but I would have to cut one of Cobb 5th, J Thomas 6th or Jeffery 7th.

We can keep up to 2 players and they cost us 2 rounds ahead of where we drafted them the following year. I took Wilson in the 10th, so he'd cost an 8th in 2015. I highly doubt he'll be there in the 8th next year, but I don't know how I feel about keeping him.

 

[Hooper31]

I always thought you were A) Mature and B) Knowledgeable. I guess I was wrong on both accounts

Somehow I doubt you're really willing judge someone so harshly over a couple of sentences on a message board.

Fair enough. Like I said, I was just surprised seeing that post coming from you. I still consider you to be both mature and knowledgeable but you really should look up Ben's stats. He's very much worthy of being in that game.

I don't disagree. Ben's season is easy to defend, but if Wilson was to be included someone else had to be removed. That guy is Ben for me. I don't dispute that I have a very biased opinion.

 

[Hooper31]

5'-11"...maybe. He will go the way of Troy Smith and Pat White, both thought of as potential NFL starters yet failed miserably. His best case scenario is backup and injury fill in like that Wallace bum who I saw that they likened him to during the draft. Fantaasy irrelevant. Smith http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569728 & http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=577975 among others White http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=466293 & http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=466116

Still an all time #### up of a post.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport believes Russell Wilson will become the NFL's highest-paid quarterback when the Seahawks sign him to a long-term extension this offseason.

2015 would be the final year of Wilson's rookie contract, but Seattle was always expected to lock up Wilson to an extension this offseason. The Seahawks have benefited from having one of the best quarterbacks in the league under contract for basically peanuts for the last three seasons. Wilson's salary meant Seattle could build an elite team around him without slipping into salary cap purgatory. That luxury will be gone after this season.

Source: NFL.com

Jan 10 - 1:55 PM

 

[SproutDaddy]

5'-11"...maybe. He will go the way of Troy Smith and Pat White, both thought of as potential NFL starters yet failed miserably. His best case scenario is backup and injury fill in like that Wallace bum who I saw that they likened him to during the draft. Fantaasy irrelevant. Smith http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569728 & http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=577975 among others White http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=466293 & http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=466116

Still an all time #### up of a post.

Didn't you know? If you're black QB there's no possible way you can be good.

 

[JetMaxx]

this guys is going to be one heck of player i saw some stuff about him walking in madison one time and you just knew he was going to be great and he was all year but unfortuntely his d was not the badgers o that he ran was national champion good but the d was only about top 25 maybe good which was the problem not him and monte the td machine ball or nick tuna toon sandwhich that is for sure so take it to the bank swc is behind him so he is a brohan and will tear it up my brothers from various other mothers

 

[fred_1_15301]

He's in tier 1 now with Rodgers, Brady, Manning and Brees. He probably was before this game but I didn't realize it. I guess we should probably add Luck as well.

 

[Buffaloes]

If I have to win 1 game today and can take any QB, I have a hard time taking anyone other than Rodgers over Wilson.

 

[Archer]

Only likeable player on a team full of showboating thugs. Including the coach.

 

[Super King]

Only likeable player on a team full of showboating thugs. Including the coach.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--qj5nOvBf--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/198af2kcuq5fwgif.jpg

 

[CapnJB]

Russell Wilson has won a playoff game each of his first 3 seasons.

(has that ever happened before?)

I think Flacco did it for his first five.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Only likeable player on a team full of showboating thugs. Including the coach.

But... He's too white, or something.

 

[Mario Kart]

He just wins.

 

[Hooper31]

He just wins.

F That. That's the sort of bull #### that people would say about Tebow when looking to justify his contributions. Wilson makes plays that contributes to wins. Seattle doesn't win in spite of him.

 

[Ghost Rider]

All things (coaching, surrounding talent, etc.) being equal, if I had to win one football game, today, I am taking Aaron Rodgers, but Russell Wilson would be 1b. The guy is absolute money.

 

[Stealthycat]

wouldn't it be great to see SEA get a top WR ? give Wilson the WR's Rodgers or Peyton has ..... even Brady has a nice group now and a monster TE ..... but Wilson has what?

 

[LordHusker]

He just wins.

F That. That's the sort of bull #### that people would say about Tebow when looking to justify his contributions. Wilson makes plays that contributes to wins. Seattle doesn't win in spite of him.

Settle down, Beavis!

All I know is that snagging him in the 7th round was key to me winning my fantasy title this year. He's not going to fall so far next year.

 

[Freelove]

He just wins.

F That. That's the sort of bull #### that people would say about Tebow when looking to justify his contributions. Wilson makes plays that contributes to wins. Seattle doesn't win in spite of him.

Jesus Christ, grow the #### up, learn to take a compliment, lay off the passive aggression, and recognize you don't have to be a d1ck with literally EVERY post you make.

 

[Stinger Ray]

He just wins.

F That. That's the sort of bull #### that people would say about Tebow when looking to justify his contributions. Wilson makes plays that contributes to wins. Seattle doesn't win in spite of him.

Calm down!! That wasn't a negative comment about Wilson. The guy is a winner and always has been on and off the field.