QB Trey Lance, LAC (4 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

I stand by my prior take: the job is Purdy’s to lose at this point.

He has a ready to roll capability that we haven’t seen from Lance. A feel for the fake that’s rare, and a ton of moxie to make big plays off script.

That said, we may have seen Purdy’s ceiling. That’s not an insult - he’s a winning QB, especially on a team that has a ton of YAC weapons.

Lance may well prove to be a better athlete, better runner, and have a bigger arm. His ability to process is a question mark, and until we know that he can read defenses, he’s still a black box uUside for days and potentially higher ceiling than Purdy with a Hurts comp…but we just don’t know yet.

Depending on how long Purdy is out, we may yet find out since Lance is expected to be fine for OTAs & training camp.

Health-wise, it might well be Lance under center for the start of 2023.

Once Purdy comes back, if Lance isn’t absolutely balling out, it will be 13 under center again.

And then who knows what Lance’s future holds.

Why does Lance have to be balling out if they're winning? If Lance is playing at a competent level why would he be replaced? I would still think as with any other inexperienced QB that there's going to be a leaning curve. If Shanahan did that then you might as well trade him.

The point is that Lance shows competence & Purdy comes back, the job is Purdy’s.

If Lance balls out, he will likely keep the job.

I’m not sure why this is a question - Purdy has already demonstrated a high level of play. Lance would have to exceed that to take the job.

I don’t get this. Purdy did well and won but he didn’t “ball out” and it wasn’t against good defenses. He made a few nice plays against Dallas but (IMO) didn’t perform at such a high level to be named the franchise guy, for sure.

If Lance is winning and playing at a comparable level, do you really think Shannahan will bench the guy who’s winning?

It might not be fair, but with Lance’s potential, I have no doubt he’d remain the starter if he’s winning and competent. (Which is the level purdy performed)

HSG has been a Lance hater for some time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

HSG has been a Lance hater for some time.

That is not at all true. Not remotely. I am actually of the opinion that he could have upside that Purdy can’t dream of.

But right now we don’t know what he is, and Purdy proved he has some of the it factor that makes for a good starting QB.

 

[Boston]

The real question this offseason is...who has more hate...Hot Sauce for Lance or JohnnyU for Richardson?

 

[-OZ-]

HSG has been a Lance hater for some time.

That is it at all true. Not remotely. I am actually of the opinion that he could have upside that Purdy can’t dream of.

But right now we don’t know what he is, and Purdy proved he has some of the it factor that makes for a good starting QB.

Sure. If Purdy were healthy to start the season it seems he’d be more likely to start.
But in the situation described, Lance has played at least a few games, won and played at least competently, we have as much an idea of what Lance is capable of.

I still hope (Probably against reality) Lance finds himself in Nashville without the titans selling the farm for him. But that’s probably not happening.

 

[-OZ-]

I stand by my prior take: the job is Purdy’s to lose at this point.

He has a ready to roll capability that we haven’t seen from Lance. A feel for the fake that’s rare, and a ton of moxie to make big plays off script.

That said, we may have seen Purdy’s ceiling. That’s not an insult - he’s a winning QB, especially on a team that has a ton of YAC weapons.

Lance may well prove to be a better athlete, better runner, and have a bigger arm. His ability to process is a question mark, and until we know that he can read defenses, he’s still a black box uUside for days and potentially higher ceiling than Purdy with a Hurts comp…but we just don’t know yet.

Depending on how long Purdy is out, we may yet find out since Lance is expected to be fine for OTAs & training camp.

Health-wise, it might well be Lance under center for the start of 2023.

Once Purdy comes back, if Lance isn’t absolutely balling out, it will be 13 under center again.

And then who knows what Lance’s future holds.

Why does Lance have to be balling out if they're winning? If Lance is playing at a competent level why would he be replaced? I would still think as with any other inexperienced QB that there's going to be a leaning curve. If Shanahan did that then you might as well trade him.

The point is that Lance shows competence & Purdy comes back, the job is Purdy’s.

If Lance balls out, he will likely keep the job.

I’m not sure why this is a question - Purdy has already demonstrated a high level of play. Lance would have to exceed that to take the job.

I don’t get this. Purdy did well and won but he didn’t “ball out” and it wasn’t against good defenses. He made a few nice plays against Dallas but (IMO) didn’t perform at such a high level to be named the franchise guy, for sure.

If Lance is winning and playing at a comparable level, do you really think Shannahan will bench the guy who’s winning?

It might not be fair, but with Lance’s potential, I have no doubt he’d remain the starter if he’s winning and competent. (Which is the level purdy performed)

It’s a gut feeling. Purdy brings intangibles that Lance apparently did not. Purdy has a good pocket clock, good instincts for when to go off script, and an uncanny knack for knowing where his WRs will be when he does.

As such, Lance would have to display more than just a similar level of competence with the on schedule throws - he would also need to display that “it” factor that Purdy has in order to keep the job, IMO.

All this is assuming Purdy isn’t ready for the regular season.

there’s more to the position than doing the bare minimum. Purdy has qualities to his play that are seemingly rare in the NFL.

I’m not entirely sure they’re things that can be coached up. Right now we don’t know if Lance has those qualities. If he starts and doesn’t display them, then I’d think it’s fair to suggest that Purdy will get the job back when he’s ready.

I think we’re defining competence differently. Bare minimum is what I expect from backups like Chad Henne, minshaw, Jacoby biscuit, Heinicke level maybe Riddler. Competence while winning is Daniel Jones level or better. IMO of course.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think we’re defining competence differently. Bare minimum is what I expect from backups like Chad Henne, minshaw, Jacoby biscuit, Heinicke level maybe Riddler. Competence while winning is Daniel Jones level or better. IMO of course.

Yes, good observation - I was using the term as in “basic ability to manage an NFL offense” - not more.

So to me, Lance would have to be far more than this to usurp Purdy, who’s displayed above average pocket awareness and ability to read defenses & get the ball out on schedule.

Lance may well be capable of all of those things and more. If he proves that on the field, there’s a chance Purdy gets Wally Pip’d.

Right now we just don’t know what Lance is.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The real question this offseason is...who has more hate...Hot Sauce for Lance or JohnnyU for Richardson?

Easily JohnnyU for Richardson, because I have zero hate for Lance.

Having just dealt Purdy while keeping Lance yesterday, I’m heavily rooting for the latter.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

we have as much an idea of what Lance is capable of.

I disagree that we know what Lance is capable of.

 

[-OZ-]

we have as much an idea of what Lance is capable of.

I disagree that we know what Lance is capable of.

You don’t think we’d have a fair idea if he’s started and won a few games in 2023? That’s my working presumption here.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

we have as much an idea of what Lance is capable of.

I disagree that we know what Lance is capable of.

You don’t think we’d have a fair idea if he’s started and won a few games in 2023? That’s my working presumption here.

Oh, future tense - yes, we’re in agreement there. IF he starts a few games, and is a large factor in winning them, then yes - hopefully we’ll know.

 

[-OZ-]

we have as much an idea of what Lance is capable of.

I disagree that we know what Lance is capable of.

You don’t think we’d have a fair idea if he’s started and won a few games in 2023? That’s my working presumption here.

Oh, future tense - yes, we’re in agreement there. IF he starts a few games, and is a large factor in winning them, then yes - hopefully we’ll know.

 

[zaner75]

I see the 49ers as in a no-lose situation here. Shanahan knows what he has in Purdy. Lance will get reps throughout the off-season to prove that he can perform at a level above Purdy, which he has the physical tools to do. That was the premise in trading up for him, his upside was beyond what Garoppolo could offer. Purdy is a better version of Garoppolo but he had arm limitations before his injury. Lance represents the best-case scenario for the 49ers while Purdy provides the floor, providing everything goes well with his surgery and rehab.

 

[spurs44]

I stand by my prior take: the job is Purdy’s to lose at this point.

He has a ready to roll capability that we haven’t seen from Lance. A feel for the fake that’s rare, and a ton of moxie to make big plays off script.

That said, we may have seen Purdy’s ceiling. That’s not an insult - he’s a winning QB, especially on a team that has a ton of YAC weapons.

Lance may well prove to be a better athlete, better runner, and have a bigger arm. His ability to process is a question mark, and until we know that he can read defenses, he’s still a black box uUside for days and potentially higher ceiling than Purdy with a Hurts comp…but we just don’t know yet.

Depending on how long Purdy is out, we may yet find out since Lance is expected to be fine for OTAs & training camp.

Health-wise, it might well be Lance under center for the start of 2023.

Once Purdy comes back, if Lance isn’t absolutely balling out, it will be 13 under center again.

And then who knows what Lance’s future holds.

Why does Lance have to be balling out if they're winning? If Lance is playing at a competent level why would he be replaced? I would still think as with any other inexperienced QB that there's going to be a leaning curve. If Shanahan did that then you might as well trade him.

The point is that Lance shows competence & Purdy comes back, the job is Purdy’s.

If Lance balls out, he will likely keep the job.

I’m not sure why this is a question - Purdy has already demonstrated a high level of play. Lance would have to exceed that to take the job.

I don’t get this. Purdy did well and won but he didn’t “ball out” and it wasn’t against good defenses. He made a few nice plays against Dallas but (IMO) didn’t perform at such a high level to be named the franchise guy, for sure.

If Lance is winning and playing at a comparable level, do you really think Shannahan will bench the guy who’s winning?

It might not be fair, but with Lance’s potential, I have no doubt he’d remain the starter if he’s winning and competent. (Which is the level purdy performed)

It’s a gut feeling. Purdy brings intangibles that Lance apparently did not. Purdy has a good pocket clock, good instincts for when to go off script, and an uncanny knack for knowing where his WRs will be when he does.

As such, Lance would have to display more than just a similar level of competence with the on schedule throws - he would also need to display that “it” factor that Purdy has in order to keep the job, IMO.

All this is assuming Purdy isn’t ready for the regular season.

there’s more to the position than doing the bare minimum. Purdy has qualities to his play that are seemingly rare in the NFL.

I’m not entirely sure they’re things that can be coached up. Right now we don’t know if Lance has those qualities. If he starts and doesn’t display them, then I’d think it’s fair to suggest that Purdy will get the job back when he’s ready.

I saw some of those td passes. I know of a few where the receiver and Kettle on one were wide open. Just saying that I think Purdy played well but I still hold that Lance has more intangibles than Purdy. Mainly his legs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I saw some of those td passes. I know of a few where the receiver and Kettle on one were wide open. Just saying that I think Purdy played well but I still hold that Lance has more intangibles than Purdy. Mainly his legs.

Reasonably certain that’s why Lance cost 3x 1sts and Purdy was Mr. irrelevant.

So far it’s not really going according to plan though.

 

[thecatch]

I stand by my prior take: the job is Purdy’s to lose at this point.

He has a ready to roll capability that we haven’t seen from Lance. A feel for the fake that’s rare, and a ton of moxie to make big plays off script.

That said, we may have seen Purdy’s ceiling. That’s not an insult - he’s a winning QB, especially on a team that has a ton of YAC weapons.

Lance may well prove to be a better athlete, better runner, and have a bigger arm. His ability to process is a question mark, and until we know that he can read defenses, he’s still a black box uUside for days and potentially higher ceiling than Purdy with a Hurts comp…but we just don’t know yet.

Depending on how long Purdy is out, we may yet find out since Lance is expected to be fine for OTAs & training camp.

Health-wise, it might well be Lance under center for the start of 2023.

Once Purdy comes back, if Lance isn’t absolutely balling out, it will be 13 under center again.

And then who knows what Lance’s future holds.

Why does Lance have to be balling out if they're winning? If Lance is playing at a competent level why would he be replaced? I would still think as with any other inexperienced QB that there's going to be a leaning curve. If Shanahan did that then you might as well trade him.

The point is that Lance shows competence & Purdy comes back, the job is Purdy’s.

If Lance balls out, he will likely keep the job.

I’m not sure why this is a question - Purdy has already demonstrated a high level of play. Lance would have to exceed that to take the job.

I don’t get this. Purdy did well and won but he didn’t “ball out” and it wasn’t against good defenses. He made a few nice plays against Dallas but (IMO) didn’t perform at such a high level to be named the franchise guy, for sure.

If Lance is winning and playing at a comparable level, do you really think Shannahan will bench the guy who’s winning?

It might not be fair, but with Lance’s potential, I have no doubt he’d remain the starter if he’s winning and competent. (Which is the level purdy performed)

It’s a gut feeling. Purdy brings intangibles that Lance apparently did not. Purdy has a good pocket clock, good instincts for when to go off script, and an uncanny knack for knowing where his WRs will be when he does.

As such, Lance would have to display more than just a similar level of competence with the on schedule throws - he would also need to display that “it” factor that Purdy has in order to keep the job, IMO.

All this is assuming Purdy isn’t ready for the regular season.

there’s more to the position than doing the bare minimum. Purdy has qualities to his play that are seemingly rare in the NFL.

I’m not entirely sure they’re things that can be coached up. Right now we don’t know if Lance has those qualities. If he starts and doesn’t display them, then I’d think it’s fair to suggest that Purdy will get the job back when he’s ready.

I saw some of those td passes. I know of a few where the receiver and Kettle on one were wide open. Just saying that I think Purdy played well but I still hold that Lance has more intangibles than Purdy. Mainly his legs.

Foot speed isn’t an intangible. And frankly he’s not a particularly talented runner at the NFL level - he’s more Geno Smith than Josh Allen in that respect. If he makes it, it is going to be as a passer who can buy time with his legs, not as a guy who is going to run it 10 times a game.

 

[Wingnut]

According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, Lance was “not as skilled a runner” as San Francisco’s coaching staff expected after drafting him. Furthermore, there are still questions regarding whether or not he can improve as a passer given he’s not a natural thrower.

Link

Also

https://youtu.be/JPG46ombFzE

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, Lance was “not as skilled a runner” as San Francisco’s coaching staff expected after drafting him. Furthermore, there are still questions regarding whether or not he can improve as a passer given he’s not a natural thrower.

Link

Also

https://youtu.be/JPG46ombFzE

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I stand by my prior take: the job is Purdy’s to lose at this point.

He has a ready to roll capability that we haven’t seen from Lance. A feel for the fake that’s rare, and a ton of moxie to make big plays off script.

That said, we may have seen Purdy’s ceiling. That’s not an insult - he’s a winning QB, especially on a team that has a ton of YAC weapons.

Lance may well prove to be a better athlete, better runner, and have a bigger arm. His ability to process is a question mark, and until we know that he can read defenses, he’s still a black box uUside for days and potentially higher ceiling than Purdy with a Hurts comp…but we just don’t know yet.

Depending on how long Purdy is out, we may yet find out since Lance is expected to be fine for OTAs & training camp.

Health-wise, it might well be Lance under center for the start of 2023.

Once Purdy comes back, if Lance isn’t absolutely balling out, it will be 13 under center again.

And then who knows what Lance’s future holds.

Why does Lance have to be balling out if they're winning? If Lance is playing at a competent level why would he be replaced? I would still think as with any other inexperienced QB that there's going to be a leaning curve. If Shanahan did that then you might as well trade him.

The point is that Lance shows competence & Purdy comes back, the job is Purdy’s.

If Lance balls out, he will likely keep the job.

I’m not sure why this is a question - Purdy has already demonstrated a high level of play. Lance would have to exceed that to take the job.

I don’t get this. Purdy did well and won but he didn’t “ball out” and it wasn’t against good defenses. He made a few nice plays against Dallas but (IMO) didn’t perform at such a high level to be named the franchise guy, for sure.

If Lance is winning and playing at a comparable level, do you really think Shannahan will bench the guy who’s winning?

It might not be fair, but with Lance’s potential, I have no doubt he’d remain the starter if he’s winning and competent. (Which is the level purdy performed)

It’s a gut feeling. Purdy brings intangibles that Lance apparently did not. Purdy has a good pocket clock, good instincts for when to go off script, and an uncanny knack for knowing where his WRs will be when he does.

As such, Lance would have to display more than just a similar level of competence with the on schedule throws - he would also need to display that “it” factor that Purdy has in order to keep the job, IMO.

All this is assuming Purdy isn’t ready for the regular season.

there’s more to the position than doing the bare minimum. Purdy has qualities to his play that are seemingly rare in the NFL.

I’m not entirely sure they’re things that can be coached up. Right now we don’t know if Lance has those qualities. If he starts and doesn’t display them, then I’d think it’s fair to suggest that Purdy will get the job back when he’s ready.

I saw some of those td passes. I know of a few where the receiver and Kettle on one were wide open. Just saying that I think Purdy played well but I still hold that Lance has more intangibles than Purdy. Mainly his legs.

Yeah, maybe. But Lance had a gift for missing Kittle wide open….

 

[spurs44]

According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, Lance was “not as skilled a runner” as San Francisco’s coaching staff expected after drafting him. Furthermore, there are still questions regarding whether or not he can improve as a passer given he’s not a natural thrower.

Link

Also

https://youtu.be/JPG46ombFzE

Huh? All of a sudden he's not as skilled a runner as the coaching staff thought he would be? This according to a sports writter. That seems pretty odd . All I know is to me he looks like he could be the next Jalen Hurts. There were plenty of doubters about him.

 

[Wingnut]

According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, Lance was “not as skilled a runner” as San Francisco’s coaching staff expected after drafting him. Furthermore, there are still questions regarding whether or not he can improve as a passer given he’s not a natural thrower.

Link

Also

https://youtu.be/JPG46ombFzE

Huh? All of a sudden he's not as skilled a runner as the coaching staff thought he would be? This according to a sports writter. That seems pretty odd . All I know is to me he looks like he could be the next Jalen Hurts. There were plenty of doubters about him.

More from Albert Breer:

Link

To call 2023 a "critical year" for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Trey Lance seems like one of the most obvious statements one could make. The third-year quarterback has started just four games since the Niners made him the No. 3 overall pick in 2021. Lance entered this past season as the starter, but a Week 2 ankle injury changed the trajectory of his career.

Later in the season, rookie Brock Purdy emerged as a bona fide star, going 7-0 as a starter before suffering a torn ligament in his throwing arm in the NFC Championship Game.

Purdy faces a six-month recovery, possibly longer depending on the outcome of his February 22 surgery. That leaves Lance with an opportunity to prove himself once again. According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, it may be crucial for the 22-year-old quarterback to do so.

"I think, really, as much as anything else, this is a critical year for Trey because [the 49ers have] got to make a decision on a fifth-year option after this year," Breer told 95.7 The Game's Damon Bruce and Ray Ratto on Friday. "And what history tells us is if you get past that point, you get past year three, and the fifth-year option hasn't been picked up, an extension hasn't been done, generally, those guys are on their last legs with the teams that they're with.

"So I think this is a critical year because of where he is in his contract. And I think this is a critical year in that if he doesn't deliver, and if Brock doesn't deliver, then they have to look at other options outside the organization because of how good their roster is.

"So I would say there's plenty of pressure on Trey, similar to the pressure, I think, that was on [QB] Tua [Tagovailoa] last year, going into the year where the Dolphins really loaded up around them and did a lot of things to accommodate to try to get answers on him. The difference is Trey is going to have to fight to get on the field, too. And I'd say, right now, he's going to have to fight his way past Brock Purdy, not the other way around."

Breer also believes that had Tom Brady been an option this offseason, the 49ers would have at least discussed the possibility. The team's roster is too stacked to risk any uncertainty at quarterback. That's what they have with Purdy, who will be coming off major surgery, and Lance, who still lacks experience.

Breer also expanded on his comments in this week's feature for Sports Illustrated, writing that Lance is "not as skilled a runner as the Niners had hoped."

"I think there's more that goes into being a great runner at that position than just speed, like how elusive is he?" Breer said. "Does he avoid contact when he needs to avoid contact? There's a lot of different things that go into being a really good runner from that position."

Breer calls having a quarterback capable of running a "catch-22." While it adds a different dynamic to the position, it also exposes a player to more hits than a typical pocket passer. The writer believes Lance's athleticism was a big reason why head coach Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers preferred him over Mac Jones in the 2021 NFL Draft.

"Mac Jones could run Shanahan's offense," Breer explained. "Trey Lance could help them grow Shanahan's offense and change it and evolve it. And I think that part of it is what he can be athletically, what he can do athletically to threaten the defense.

"I just think that there are some things like that you hope he can work on and get better at."

 

[spurs44]

According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, Lance was “not as skilled a runner” as San Francisco’s coaching staff expected after drafting him. Furthermore, there are still questions regarding whether or not he can improve as a passer given he’s not a natural thrower.

Link

Also

https://youtu.be/JPG46ombFzE

Huh? All of a sudden he's not as skilled a runner as the coaching staff thought he would be? This according to a sports writter. That seems pretty odd . All I know is to me he looks like he could be the next Jalen Hurts. There were plenty of doubters about him.

More from Albert Breer:

Link

To call 2023 a "critical year" for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Trey Lance seems like one of the most obvious statements one could make. The third-year quarterback has started just four games since the Niners made him the No. 3 overall pick in 2021. Lance entered this past season as the starter, but a Week 2 ankle injury changed the trajectory of his career.

Later in the season, rookie Brock Purdy emerged as a bona fide star, going 7-0 as a starter before suffering a torn ligament in his throwing arm in the NFC Championship Game.

Purdy faces a six-month recovery, possibly longer depending on the outcome of his February 22 surgery. That leaves Lance with an opportunity to prove himself once again. According to Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated, it may be crucial for the 22-year-old quarterback to do so.

"I think, really, as much as anything else, this is a critical year for Trey because [the 49ers have] got to make a decision on a fifth-year option after this year," Breer told 95.7 The Game's Damon Bruce and Ray Ratto on Friday. "And what history tells us is if you get past that point, you get past year three, and the fifth-year option hasn't been picked up, an extension hasn't been done, generally, those guys are on their last legs with the teams that they're with.

"So I think this is a critical year because of where he is in his contract. And I think this is a critical year in that if he doesn't deliver, and if Brock doesn't deliver, then they have to look at other options outside the organization because of how good their roster is.

"So I would say there's plenty of pressure on Trey, similar to the pressure, I think, that was on [QB] Tua [Tagovailoa] last year, going into the year where the Dolphins really loaded up around them and did a lot of things to accommodate to try to get answers on him. The difference is Trey is going to have to fight to get on the field, too. And I'd say, right now, he's going to have to fight his way past Brock Purdy, not the other way around."

Breer also believes that had Tom Brady been an option this offseason, the 49ers would have at least discussed the possibility. The team's roster is too stacked to risk any uncertainty at quarterback. That's what they have with Purdy, who will be coming off major surgery, and Lance, who still lacks experience.

Breer also expanded on his comments in this week's feature for Sports Illustrated, writing that Lance is "not as skilled a runner as the Niners had hoped."

"I think there's more that goes into being a great runner at that position than just speed, like how elusive is he?" Breer said. "Does he avoid contact when he needs to avoid contact? There's a lot of different things that go into being a really good runner from that position."

Breer calls having a quarterback capable of running a "catch-22." While it adds a different dynamic to the position, it also exposes a player to more hits than a typical pocket passer. The writer believes Lance's athleticism was a big reason why head coach Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers preferred him over Mac Jones in the 2021 NFL Draft.

"Mac Jones could run Shanahan's offense," Breer explained. "Trey Lance could help them grow Shanahan's offense and change it and evolve it. And I think that part of it is what he can be athletically, what he can do athletically to threaten the defense.

"I just think that there are some things like that you hope he can work on and get better at."

Thanks for the info. I think this encapsulates what a lot of people are thinking. I hope he does it. Going to be a interesting offseason.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

. All I know is to me he looks like he could be the next Jalen Hurts.

Based on what? We’ve seen absolutely nothing out of Lance, literally.

 

[spurs44]

. All I know is to me he looks like he could be the next Jalen Hurts.

Based on what? We’ve seen absolutely nothing out of Lance, literally.

His physical stature is similar to Hurts. Big strong gifted athlete. Strong arm and running ability. We'll see. At some point he will get another opportunity.

 

[Faust]

Why Simms believes Lance will be 49ers' QB1 for 2023 season

 

[Faust]

Trey Lance (ankle surgeries) is expected to be full-go for 49ers OTAs in May.​

Lance recently resumed taking full dropbacks in his rehab. “I get reports obviously, but my eyes tell me a lot,” GM John Lynch said. “And I’m watching Trey out there taking drops. I don’t see a limp. Not to say he’s 100 percent, but he’s really recovering well and doing a really nice job.” Although Lance has already had a setback or two, he seems likely to be the 49ers' Week 1 starter with Brock Purdy yet to even go under the knife on what is expected to be at least a six-month recovery from elbow surgery. It could end up taking more than a year. Lance will be one of this offseason's most fascinating best ball cases.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Feb 28, 2023, 8:06 PM ET

 

[Faust]

Greg Cosell provides 1 trait Trey Lance has to show to be a successful NFL quarterback

 

[Kiddnets]

Its MArch 3 and Purdy still has too much swelling to even have the surgery yet. Im pretty confident at this point that Lance is the starter. Now if he keeps it all year is another question but he'll have a legit chance.

 

[Wingnut]

Its MArch 3 and Purdy still has too much swelling to even have the surgery yet. Im pretty confident at this point that Lance is the starter. Now if he keeps it all year is another question but he'll have a legit chance.

Well, Lance IS the starter going into 2023, but nothing has changed with Purdy, he is scheduled to meet with the doctor this week and determine if they can do the surgery. This was the plan since they canceled the original procedure on Feb 21st.

 

[Wingnut]

49ers QB Brock Purdy is expected to undergo elbow surgery next week

It appears the swelling in the Purdy’s elbow has gone down enough to undergo surgery.

www.ninersnation.com

 

[spurs44]

49ers QB Brock Purdy is expected to undergo elbow surgery next week

It appears the swelling in the Purdy’s elbow has gone down enough to undergo surgery.

www.ninersnation.com

" More traditionally a baseball injury, quarterbacks have struggled to return to form after undergoing UCL reconstruction surgery. However, the 49ers hope Purdy can buck those trends. "
Uh, this seems a little concerning to me.

 

[Wingnut]

49ers QB Brock Purdy is expected to undergo elbow surgery next week

It appears the swelling in the Purdy’s elbow has gone down enough to undergo surgery.

www.ninersnation.com

" More traditionally a baseball injury, quarterbacks have struggled to return to form after undergoing UCL reconstruction surgery. However, the 49ers hope Purdy can buck those trends. "
Uh, this seems a little concerning to me.

Brock is getting an internal brace, not reconstruction. At least that's the plan going in.

Other than Jake Delhomme (TJ surgery) snd Nick Mullens (internal brace), I dont know of any other QBs who have had UCL surgeries, so I'm not sure who that article is referring.

From another article:

Baseball pitchers, including the eponymous Tommy John himself, have typically needed the surgery because they use that ligament to get torque on their pitches, repeatedly thrown at high velocity. Jake Delhomme, formerly of the Panthers, is the only NFL quarterback known to have had Tommy John surgery, and he had a record of elbow pain and injuries.

Any post-surgery risks?

Though the recovery time following a repair isn’t extensive, there are some concerns to watch for once Purdy returns. Will Purdy feel a little rushed in order to avoid contact on his surgically repaired elbow? Will any lingering soreness impact his play? Will he compensate for any soreness, leaving him vulnerable to injury?

Those are all risks to consider, but the odds that he will have recurring issues with his elbow are low, Pandya says.

“For a repair, because he won’t be stressing it, there’s a low likelihood he would have recurring issues,” he said. “(It’s a) better quality tissue — he’s not throwing 100 mph fastballs, so all things are in his favor.”

While an MLB pitcher is activating his UCL on almost every pitch, the quarterback does not use that part of his elbow when throwing. So chances that Purdy would aggravate the ligament injury are slim.

“The throwing motion is a little different (than a pitcher): You aren’t straining the UCL as much,” Pandya said. “The football is bigger and (there’s) less torque across the elbow. You see muscle issues around the elbow with quarterbacks, but you don’t see the ligament take a hit.”

 

[JohnnyU]

I really hope he shows something this year.

 

[spurs44]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

 

[Wingnut]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

I think JohnnyU meant Lance.

 

[JohnnyU]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

I think JohnnyU meant Lance.

Of course, it’s a Lance thread.

 

[spurs44]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

I think JohnnyU meant Lance.

Of course, it’s a Lance thread.

Sorry, not paying attention. I thought I was on the Purdy thread.

 

[zamboni]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

I think JohnnyU meant Lance.

I think he meant Faust.

As if…

 

[JohnnyU]

I really hope he shows something this year.

He scored an elite ranking on the the cognizant test they give at the combine which explains I think why he is not easily razed in the pocket. He makes reads very quickly.

I think JohnnyU meant Lance.

I think he meant Faust.

As if…

?

 

[Faust]

49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan said Trey Lance has a "chance" to "regain" the team's starting job with Brock Purdy recovering from elbow surgery. ​

Shanahan's comment strongly implied that Lance only has a shot at starting in 2023 because Purdy is recovering from elbow surgery that could require rehab lasting into the first month of the regular season. Niners general manager John Lynch said Monday that Purdy "has earned the right" to be the team's starter following his impressive run at the end of last season, ending in a first quarter elbow injury against the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. The 49ers trading Lance during the NFL Draft isn't completely out of the question. They could roll with Sam Darnold as a fill-in starter while Purdy finishes his recovery. Rotoworld's Patrick Daugherty and Denny Carter talked about Lance's 2023 prospects on the latest Rotoworld Football Show.
RELATED:

• Brock Purdy

SOURCE: David Lombardi on Twitter
Mar 28, 2023 at 11:00 AM ET

 

[Faust]

49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan said Trey Lance and Sam Darnold will split first-team reps this offseason. ​

The zoomers might say Lance is "down bad," set to share first-team snaps with Darnold while Brock Prudy recovers from offseason elbow surgery. Purdy could miss the early portion of the regular season, leaving Darnold or Lance as the Niners starting quarterback until Purdy is ready for action. Shanahan and general manager John Lynch have made no secret that Purdy will be the team's QB1 when he's ready. That leaves Lance as a potential trade candidate for a QB-hungry team this offseason.
RELATED:

• Sam Darnold
• , Brock Purdy

SOURCE: David Lombardi on Twitter
Mar 28, 2023 at 11:28 AM ET

 

[greenmountaingoat]

This is like a bad reality TV show. The Shanahanette. It's been a long time since I watched one of those shows but feels a lot like it's the rose ceremony here. ****ing Christ. Having a share of Lance in dynasty is one of the world's most annoying experiences. Sell low? Hardly. Ceiling still pretty high but he's trending toward roster clogger status in 1QB.

 

[jtd13]

Shanahan and general manager John Lynch have made no secret that Purdy will be the team's QB1 when he's ready. ​

Classic Rotoworld-ism right there. How are they so bad at simply conveying information?

 

[spurs44]

Shanahan and general manager John Lynch have made no secret that Purdy will be the team's QB1 when he's ready. ​

Classic Rotoworld-ism right there. How are they so bad at simply conveying information?

I have Lance for now and would love if he was traded.

 

[zamboni]

Over the offseason, I've seen a few folks speculating the Titans as a potential partner, connecting the dots with Ran Carthon as the new Titans GM coming over from the Niners.

It does make some sense given that the Titans don't seem to be long for Tannehill and didn't sign anyone in the offseason.

 

[Faust]

Niners CEO Jed York 'wouldn't change anything' about drafting QB Trey Lance: 'It's not his fault'

 

[-OZ-]

This is like a bad reality TV show. The Shanahanette. It's been a long time since I watched one of those shows but feels a lot like it's the rose ceremony here. ****ing Christ. Having a share of Lance in dynasty is one of the world's most annoying experiences. Sell low? Hardly. Ceiling still pretty high but he's trending toward roster clogger status in 1QB.

It really kicks hard in SF when I drafted him over Jamar chase.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Shanahan and general manager John Lynch have made no secret that Purdy will be the team's QB1 when he's ready. ​

Classic Rotoworld-ism right there. How are they so bad at simply conveying information?

I have Lance for now and would love if he was traded.

Same.

 

[Lehigh98]

This is like a bad reality TV show. The Shanahanette. It's been a long time since I watched one of those shows but feels a lot like it's the rose ceremony here. ****ing Christ. Having a share of Lance in dynasty is one of the world's most annoying experiences. Sell low? Hardly. Ceiling still pretty high but he's trending toward roster clogger status in 1QB.

It really kicks hard in SF when I drafted him over Jamar chase.

Warning: Off-topic commiserating...
Started my first dynasty league two seasons ago and took two firsts in the dispersal and traded those to move up to 1.03 for a QB.
Draft went TLaw, then Chase and I had a coin flip between Lance and Fields.
The 1.04 wanted to trade up so I traded back for the extra pick and to let him choose for me.
He took Pitts.
I agonized for a while and then took Lance, Fields went next at 1.05 after a huge trade up that I probably would have taken instead:
Team A gave: 1.05 (Fields)
Team B gave: 1.11 + all their rookie picks the following year (1st, 2nd, 3rd)

 

[joey]

I roster Lance in a short bench, Keep only 13 league, and considering just keeping Goff at this point and using one of my 3 2nd round picks I’ve accumulated to draft one of the rookie QBs and get off this stupid ride.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I roster Lance in a short bench, Keep only 13 league, and considering just keeping Goff at this point and using one of my 3 2nd round picks I’ve accumulated to draft one of the rookie QBs and get off this stupid ride.

1 QB I assume?