QB value when starting 2 QB's (1 Viewer)

[GreenNGold]

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I hope this is the right forum.

My question is, how much do the value of QB's go up when you start 2 QB's each week. For example, in my league, we start the following:

2 QB's

2 RB's

3 WR's (TE's are included with WR's)

Now I agree with almost every review I have read on this site, that there is a ton of depth at QB, but most of this advice is geared towards leagues that only start 1 QB per week. How much more important do QB's become compared to RB's when you start 2 QB's each week instead of 1?

TY in advance

 

[radballs]

Try downloading the Draft Dominator and then plug in your starting requirements and scoring rules and see how it shakes out.

 

[GreenNGold]

Thanks for the reply, I will try that -- Also, sorry all I just realized I should have posted in this in the Assisstant coach forum (I think).

 

[Post Corner]

Radbals -- I think he was hoping to get some real feedback based on experience rather than just turning a key on a program and accepting the results... Draft Dominator good, but not human.

At any rate, here is my two cents in an effort to help. QB value goes way up if have to start 2 QBs. Actually, it more or less evens out the value with RB (in general, but depends on number of teams in league). I remember reading a good article here WAY back in the day about develping a fantasy scoring system of equivalent value for the major offensive positions (i.e. WR value ~ QB value ~ RB value). It was an interesting read. The gist of it was for a 10 team league, 2 QB required for start along with 3 WR to even things out with 2 RB typical starting requirement (if I remember correctly). I can vouch that QB value does go up when required to start 2 of them...

 

[valhallan]

The key to 2 QB leagues is getting 2, preferably 3, guys whom you KNOW will start and produce all season. Guys like Brooks, Plummer, Delhomme, Brady, etc. Don't wait too long and get stuck with Charlie Frye or Jon Kitna as your QB2.

 

[Z-Dog]

In 2 QB leagues, the top echelon of RBs is still most valuable, but QBs compete with RBs the rest of the way. WRs are not as valuable. I'd say if you push your QBs up about 1 round you'll have a sense of the value.

 

[gotbling]

If your league gave 6 Pts per TD instead of 4 for QBs then the value of the QB is extremely high. Makes sense to grab Manning in the first round if that is the case. Just imagine a top QB like Manning will no doubt get you 25+ TDs for the season. How many RBs can you make the same case for outside of the top 3? Having 2 top QBs will go along way to winning your league's championship.

I saw a posting from Lone Ranger on starting 2 QBs. Search for his post.

 

[The Jerk]

Thanks for the reply, I will try that -- Also, sorry all I just realized I should have posted in this in the Assisstant coach forum (I think).

GreenNGold,Welcome!

This type of thread is perfectly fine in the Shark Pool. You're describing a generic scenario that applies to many people, not just yourself.

As far as the value of QBs in a start 2 QB league, the simple answer is that the value goes up compared to a standard (1 QB) league. As other posters have stated, this difference is more significant in a 6 point per passing TD league. Using the Draft Dominator will give you an idea of the relative value of positions. You can even change the league requirements and compare the difference between 1 QB and 2 QB leagues.

Finally, add your own input to the mix in terms of developing and implementing a draft strategy. If you have experience with these owners (as it appears), you can look at past drafts and spot some tendencies of individuals and the league as a whole. The league history can help frame your expectations as to how early a given QB will be drafted. Of course, tendencies change and projections differ, but you can still benefit by knowing what the other owners are more likely to do.

Good luck!

 

[valhallan]

Finally, add your own input to the mix in terms of developing and implementing a draft strategy. If you have experience with these owners (as it appears), you can look at past drafts and spot some tendencies of individuals and the league as a whole. The league history can help frame your expectations as to how early a given QB will be drafted. Of course, tendencies change and projections differ, but you can still benefit by knowing what the other owners are more likely to do.

Good advice. This is especially important in 2QB leagues because there tends to be a run on quarterbacks sometime in the 3rd or 4th round. Definitely keep a running list of each teams draft so you know when you can hold out and when you need to go ahead a grab someone.

 

[finnref]

In our league of 2 QB, 2Rb, 3WR, and 1 flex (Rb or WR) we give 6 pts for all TDs and 1pt per recept.

This increases the value of QB but RB is still the dominant pick in rounds one and two. the Qbs go heavily in rd 3 and 4. the Wr starts to come into play in 5 and 6 after the top five are gone in rd 1 and 2. On average 16 RB are drafted in the first two rounds. the top 10 Qb are gone by round 8.

It makes the drafts very interesting in the top 8 rounds. the later rounds are also competitive for the 3-4 Wr with the ppr. In addition we play two Defenses which adds more intrigue. Ten team league. Do not advise any more than 10.

If you add up these stats they may be a little off since I do not have my list in front of me. but I think you will get the idea.

 

[ookook]

Most owners will run on QBs early in a start 2 QB format.

In my experience, there is STILL great value to be had later in that position. There simply is not as much drop off between QB10 and QB20.

So wai tuntil the 6th to 9th round then take several.

That was you will have 3 RBs and 3 WRs already drafted.

 

[jbz]

that might not be an option if QBs start flying off the board early and a panic run starts. that happened in my 2 QB league the other year, it was ridiculous. I drafted one, Peyton Manning and then the rest started to fly. I ended up with no other QB and traded for one since I was stocking up on extra RBs/WRs when everyone else was grabbing QBs early. So the moral of the story is that it could all be based on how the draft is going. There's no set standard to follow, but I do agree with your thinking regarding value in the QB spot later on and no real drop off after the upper tier of QBs go.

 

[OddibeMcD]

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I hope this is the right forum.

My question is, how much do the value of QB's go up when you start 2 QB's each week. For example, in my league, we start the following:

2 QB's

2 RB's

3 WR's (TE's are included with WR's)

Now I agree with almost every review I have read on this site, that there is a ton of depth at QB, but most of this advice is geared towards leagues that only start 1 QB per week. How much more important do QB's become compared to RB's when you start 2 QB's each week instead of 1?

TY in advance

One unanswered problem is the size of your league. If it is an eight man league, QB's become only slightly more valuable. If it is a twelve man league, they shoot up astronomically until they are on pace with RB's. Simply put, only 32 guys will be slated to score fantasy points in one week and that's ignoring byes. People want backups and want a third starting QB. in my 12 man league people were taking their third QB by round seven. If you waited, you might get stuck with only one starting QB, a very large hole to be in. Personally, I like this format, but it makes having at least one solid QB a necessity.

 

[doomsdaydoc]

I have played in a 2 QB league for 10 seasons. You cannot wait for your first QB as the top 10-12 are gone by the end of the 3rd round. The next wave is gone by the end of the 5th round. After that you are left with the Rex Grossmans of the world

 

[GreenNGold]

that might not be an option if QBs start flying off the board early and a panic run starts. that happened in my 2 QB league the other year, it was ridiculous. I drafted one, Peyton Manning and then the rest started to fly. I ended up with no other QB and traded for one since I was stocking up on extra RBs/WRs when everyone else was grabbing QBs early. So the moral of the story is that it could all be based on how the draft is going. There's no set standard to follow, but I do agree with your thinking regarding value in the QB spot later on and no real drop off after the upper tier of QBs go.

Thank you for the replies. I am in a 10 man league. I was thinking that QB's should be rated higher than I had them, and according to most posts in this thread, it appears that is the case. I also agree that it depends greatly on how the draft is going -- if everyone else is taking RB's and WR's, I can definitely afford to wait for late round value.