Question for Commishes in leagues with IR (1 Viewer)

[GroveDiesel]

s-What kind of players would you normally allow on your IR? How does your league website handle it?

I commish a casual league with a few guys that are more serious and complain about everything. We don't have any actual written rules, I basically just setup the website the way our rules are and we go with that. We have had an IR spot for years that is set so that only players that are listed as Out, on IR or on PUP can be on that spot. I just realized today that Fleaflicker is allowing two of the more serious guys to put Vincent Jackson and Santonio Holmes on IR. Does anyone actually allow teams to put a suspended player on IR? Anyone else have a website allowing this?

I'm pretty irritated about it, but don't really have the ability to do anything about it at this point I don't think since I've previously said that how the website processes things is how we'll go with them for the year.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I don't think any of my leagues would allow an owner to stash a suspended player on IR.

Did these guys draft Jackson and Holmes, or did they just now pick them up and them immediately put them on IR? If it's the latter, I'd probably have no problem reversing the transaction and making it clear that the IR is not intended for suspended players. If they drafted them with the intention of stashing them there until their suspensions are over, however, I think you have to let it go.

 

[the Jag Zone]

s-What kind of players would you normally allow on your IR? How does your league website handle it?I commish a casual league with a few guys that are more serious and complain about everything. We don't have any actual written rules, I basically just setup the website the way our rules are and we go with that. We have had an IR spot for years that is set so that only players that are listed as Out, on IR or on PUP can be on that spot. I just realized today that Fleaflicker is allowing two of the more serious guys to put Vincent Jackson and Santonio Holmes on IR. Does anyone actually allow teams to put a suspended player on IR? Anyone else have a website allowing this?I'm pretty irritated about it, but don't really have the ability to do anything about it at this point I don't think since I've previously said that how the website processes things is how we'll go with them for the year.

not a chance.. if a player is Suspended then in no way shape or form does that player warrant being permitted on an IR list..also.. I'm in numerous Leagues (all of which are actually on MFL) ..and in each of those leagues any player put on IR "must be listed on IR by MFL" ..I prefer this because it clearly defines going in when the IR function can be used.. and grant you.. I know MFL has had times when they are a li'l slow on the draw getting players who need to be listed on IR marked as such.. still this clearly prevents any question as to where a league stands in that situation..

 

[Hoosier16]

Our league only allows those players on the NFL's IR to be put on the league IR. No PUP, suspended, or players listed as out. It simplifies things significantly.

 

[Shutout]

The simplest thing that works in our leagues, is pretty cut and dried, and leaves no room for people trying to argue or circumvent the system is simply to adopt the same rules as the NFL: Only a player that is lost to injury for the remainder of the season is eligible for IR. If he's on PUP, then the owner has to decide if its worth holding a roster slot. If he is suspended, same thing. Good enough for fairness in the NFL, good enough for you: no muss, no fuss.

We definitely do not allow owners to pick up players that are suspended or Already on IR and roster them and place them on the league IR. In fact, we have an additional rule that states if a player is a free agent and is on NFL IR, no team may pick them up and place them on IR. You can pick them up and let them eat a roster slot if you want but can't have a freebie.

 

[SSOG]

I use Fleaflicker and have the league set to only allow players on NFL IR onto fantasy IR... but for some reason, the software still allows owners to stash players who are on the PUP list. Someone stashed Sidney Rice earlier this season, not realizing it was against the rules since the software allowed it. I noticed it in the transaction log and posted a message informing the owner that only players on IR were allowed to be stashed on IR, no matter what Fleaflicker allowed. The owner removed Sidney from our IR, and everyone went on with their lives.

 

[Godsbrother]

s-What kind of players would you normally allow on your IR? How does your league website handle it?

I commish a casual league with a few guys that are more serious and complain about everything. We don't have any actual written rules, I basically just setup the website the way our rules are and we go with that. We have had an IR spot for years that is set so that only players that are listed as Out, on IR or on PUP can be on that spot. I just realized today that Fleaflicker is allowing two of the more serious guys to put Vincent Jackson and Santonio Holmes on IR. Does anyone actually allow teams to put a suspended player on IR? Anyone else have a website allowing this?

I'm pretty irritated about it, but don't really have the ability to do anything about it at this point I don't think since I've previously said that how the website processes things is how we'll go with them for the year.

Do suspended players count on an NFL team's 53-man roster?ETA: If not then I don't see why you would be penalizing a fantasy team by making them keep a suspended player on their active roster.

 

[two_dollars]

No, they are taking advantage of the system. I wouldn't allow it. We have very strict IR rules.

 

[Pickle Rody]

My main league (and pretty much all others I'm in that allow any kind of IR) stipulates that the player must be officially listed on IR by his respective NFL team to qualify for IR status in fantasy. No Suspended, Out or PUP designations allowed. We also have very strict rules regarding the players status once he is placed on IR in fantasy. Basically he must remain there all season long and he cannot be dropped to make room for another player. We do allow 3 IR slots though, so the only way a team can get in trouble is if he loses a ton of talent to IR, which rarely happens to one individual team. We do not restrict teams from picking up free agents that are already on NFL-IR and then stashing them on their fantasy-IR. If they want to waste a valuable IR slot on a fringe-type player, more power to them. They just run the risk of not having that slot available later when a stud goes down. Disclaimer: my main league is a keeper league so IR slots are not taken lightly.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I don't think any of my leagues would allow an owner to stash a suspended player on IR. Did these guys draft Jackson and Holmes, or did they just now pick them up and them immediately put them on IR? If it's the latter, I'd probably have no problem reversing the transaction and making it clear that the IR is not intended for suspended players. If they drafted them with the intention of stashing them there until their suspensions are over, however, I think you have to let it go.

Both of them were drafted and then put on IR. I don't know that they were aware that they would even be able to put them on IR though. If I had realized it an caught it before Week 1, I think I could have done something without complaint. If I try now, I'm guessing I'll have about 300 emails flying back and forth this week with 3 owners arguing back and forth. Clearly I should just get rid of the IR spot going forward. I just liked it because I hate the damage that injuries do to teams and how many times good players get dropped for a fill-in due to injury. But it's obviously creating more problems than it solves. Ugh. Stupid Fleaflicker.

 

[Todem]

In our Dyansty leagues only a guy who is really on IR can go on and there are 2 or IR slots I believe.

That's it. Black and white. No gray area. Not on IR....not eligble.

 

[guderian]

Our league only allows those players on the NFL's IR to be put on the league IR. No PUP, suspended, or players listed as out. It simplifies things significantly.

Ditto.

 

[Trig2U]

s-What kind of players would you normally allow on your IR? How does your league website handle it?

I commish a casual league with a few guys that are more serious and complain about everything. We don't have any actual written rules, I basically just setup the website the way our rules are and we go with that. We have had an IR spot for years that is set so that only players that are listed as Out, on IR or on PUP can be on that spot. I just realized today that Fleaflicker is allowing two of the more serious guys to put Vincent Jackson and Santonio Holmes on IR. Does anyone actually allow teams to put a suspended player on IR? Anyone else have a website allowing this?

I'm pretty irritated about it, but don't really have the ability to do anything about it at this point I don't think since I've previously said that how the website processes things is how we'll go with them for the year.

Do suspended players count on an NFL team's 53-man roster?ETA: If not then I don't see why you would be penalizing a fantasy team by making them keep a suspended player on their active roster.

I can see the logic in keeping IR limited to players who are PUP in the NFL. Keeps it simple. But also simple is what we do in my league, which is to charge a fairly substantial fee for IR and simply let owners put any player they want there.

Because logical and straightforward as it may be to limit IR to players who are done for the year, it's also a relatively strict measure, one that doesn't really address most of the injury situations that fantasy owners face in a given week.

In fantasy PUP is a fairly rare injury situation, and more likely you're trying to see if Player A's high ankle sprain is going to keep him out of action again this week, or if Player B is cleared to play after that concussion.

And NFL teams have much larger rosters than the typical fantasy team, so using that model for a fantasy league isn't that accurate. The fact is that NFL teams play cutesy with the injured list all the time, and fantasy football doesn't have that luxury. When you only have 4 WR's on your roster and one of them is "Questionable" or week to week with a sprained whoozit, it really limits your ability to manage your line-ups.

We tried various other systems, and eventually arrived at "screw it, let owners stash a couple of extra guys on IR for whatever reason". make it fairly expensive and you'll find that it doesn't get abused all that much. Call it the Practice Squad if you prefer, but it keeps things very simple and it puts a few dollars in the pot.

 

[Christo]

Our league only allows those players on the NFL's IR to be put on the league IR. No PUP, suspended, or players listed as out. It simplifies things significantly.

 

[Truman]

MFL lists guys who are inactive as out. Does anyone have a league which allows these guys to go on IR? Our league just introduced IR and it can be used for everyone listed as out - including inactives.

Once the week is over you cannot submit a lineup thru MFL if you have these guys still on IR, but if you do nothing it just uses the previous weeks lineup by default, so you can get away with stashing guys on it like a taxi squad. The other option is just to wait until inactives come out next week and repeat the process.

Any other leagues out there at all that allow something so ridiculous? IR should be for guys who are done for the season.

 

[VaCatFan]

The leagues that I'm in, you can't use the IR unless the players are out for the year. Makes it clean and easy. With 20 man rosters and 14 teams, most teams have enough space to stash a player or 2.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Our league rules specifically say that only players that are OUT or on IR can be put on IR. Suspended players and free agents can not.

We use MyFantasyLeague.com for stats and they have an Injured Reserve setup on the commisioner tab.

One of the options is "Can a player be deactivated when he is listed as "Suspended"?"

 

[Donsmith753]

I use MFL and only players actually on IR can be placed there, they introduced the differentiation between IR and SSPD this offseason.

 

[Sinn Fein]

We have an IR - but only players on NFL's IR are eligible.

We have had discussions about suspended players - but we treat those just as we would a guy who misses a few games for injury - tough luck.

 

[wadegarrett]

have two IR spots in our league reserved for players who are on IR, are out, or are doubtful as of Friday's injury report...no suspended players

 

[hadji]

We allow players that are listed as doubtful, out, or IR to be placed on IR. Players on PUP are listed as out so obviously they are eligible for IR. Each team has 3 IR slots. This year, MFL started a new status of (S) for suspended players. Since this was new for this year we are allowing players in suspended status to be placed on IR for this year only with the understanding that next year suspended players will not be eligible for IR. If a player is listed as questionable or probable at game time or actually plays and the owner still has that player on their IR, they are assessed a 20 point penalty for that week.

 

[GoRaiders]

We allow players that are not active to be on the IR. Could be suspension, could be hurt and Sunday AM they are inactive for the game, thus we allow that player to be put on IR until he becomes active once again. Allows owners to pick up a player off the wire to replace the hurt guy. It depends on how deep your bench is. A deep bench would probably justify IR being more rigid. A small bench, IR slot can probably be looser like mine.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I commish a casual league with a few guys that are more serious and complain about everything. We don't have any actual written rules

I think i found your problem.