Rah Rah! Seahawks! (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

I ran across this randomly and had to post it:

Agent Smith: It seems that you've been living two lives. One life, you're Peter Clay Carroll, head coach for the Seattle Seahawks of the NFL. You have a coaches identification card, get paid a hefty bonus and contract, and you... help your special teams coordinator come up with "cool plays"...... The other life is lived in female soccer, where you go by the coaching alias "Pia Sundhage" you are the head coach of the U.S.A women's soccer team and are influential in virtually every aspect of Hope Solo's career. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

 

[Short Corner]

And that shows that who controlled it? What is the definition of control by the NFL rules? I'm guessing you have no idea. Go ahead and get it wrong and then I'll post what the rulebook states as I already have the data. You're in way over your head here--it might be best to say you're no longer interested in arguing this with a "homer Seahawks" and save some face.

yeah, i've seen you hawks homers are twisting yourself into pretzels over the last couple of days trying to make it fit. You don't have to post because it's clear you're trying to shoe-horn a square into a round hole.

This post is a device to get out of the pickle you've put yourself in. If you don't know the rules, don't care to educate yourself, and don't want me to post them because it will prove you wrong then I'm not sure even proving you wrong is going to do anything. But be clear: you don't understand the rules which is why you're trying to stop right here and you know it.

Sorry, pal. Keep twisting. But if you feel you need to twist yourself one more time to try and justify that "something isn't right" feeling you got (because you know that the call was wrong), go ahead. I'm all eyes.

You can't sneak out of this now by trying to change the subject--you know you can't come up with an argument with actual NFL rules. Instead you're using gifs that aren't relevant and pictures with zero context, kind of the same thing you're telling me didn't work for you. So?

Oh, please.

It's the wrong visual evidence *per the rules*. Keep trying to weasel out--this one didn't work either.

/beginbeeyotchslapYou're the one that's trying to sneak away from the truth. Is this your smokescreen'routine to avoid it? To call everyone else a "weasel"? Sorry, but you can't.

/endbeeyotchslap

Guess you didn't know the rules after all. Are you going to run now?

Seattle Seahawks 2*-1

Learn how to code son.

 

[Hooper31]

For Christ's sake, get a ####### room. Worse than a bunch of scorned women.

 

[mad sweeney]

I thought he looked ridiculous after the Monday night. Take the win and be quiet about it. Everyone saw how the game ended.

Exactly. They only won the game with MASSIVE help from the refs. Better to shut up than prance around like you really earned it.

And if they'd lost there'd be massive complaints about the help the Packers got. He's allowed to be happy about not being the team that got screwed last in a poorly refer game.

 

[mad sweeney]

I thought he looked ridiculous after the Monday night. Take the win and be quiet about it. Everyone saw how the game ended.

Exactly. They only won the game with MASSIVE help from the refs. Better to shut up than prance around like you really earned it.

They did earn it. You wouldn't be in position to win a game on the last play if it wasn't earned. You clearly didn't see the game.

You're clearly talking out of you a## again. They shouldn't have even been close to the end zone in the first place. But discounting that, the final play was clearly a gift from a ref who must have had money on the Seahawks. The only thing they earned was the scorn of non-Hawks homers like yourself. they didn't earn that win at all.

And what exactly should the Seahawks do to make this right in your mind? Donate the win to charity?Directing scorn at the team is completely irrational.

Clearly you're not familiar with Mr Max.

 

[mad sweeney]

I thought he looked ridiculous after the Monday night. Take the win and be quiet about it. Everyone saw how the game ended.

Exactly. They only won the game with MASSIVE help from the refs. Better to shut up than prance around like you really earned it.

Everyone keeps saying GB clearly should have won. But the people saying this don't say a damn thing about the rest of the calls during the game except for that one. They cite that somehow that call is way more important because it decided the game, but if the score is 7-6 that play doesn't decide the game at all.You can talk about hypotheticals all you want, but the entire game wasn't clean. I wish someone would post a GIF of all the holds that weren't called in the second half. There's a reason Green Bay suddenly didn't get sacked in the second half.

Hmmm....phantom holding calls just like the phantom touchdown reception by Tate in the end zone? Sorry, but your reasoning for why there were no sacks in the 2nd half is nonsense.

Did you actually watch the game? I did, and I've re-watched it. You have no idea what you're talking about. And tell me why it was a phantom touchdown. I'll start by saying that Tate clearly had a PI not called on him, but it's already been said multiple times that those aren't really called since everyone is jostling for position. So let's hear your version of it, because there's enough disputable evidence to make it at worst iffy, and at best flat out wrong.

I'll do you one better. Show me where Tate has control and/or possession: This. Can't wait to here the argument FOR a guy who's head is being sit on by a player with the ball clutched to his chest.

For one, that's well after both of them got the body parts on the ground necessary to constitute a catch. That picture is completely irrelevant for who came down with the ball. Pick one that's relevant b

 

[mad sweeney]

I'm suspicious of people who don't like Pete Carroll.

Oh no... the coach is enthusiastic!!!

not sure what he did wrong to deserve hate. All he is is positive and a nice guy.

he is willing to compromise integrity.So he comes across as a phony.

Ok, I'll bite. Where did he compromise integrity?

The integrity of the game was compromised Monday night. Have you been in a cave?

How did Carroll compromise it?

 

[MaxThreshold]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

 

[ImTheScientist]

For Christ's sake, get a ####### room. Worse than a bunch of scorned women.

 

[biju]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

 

[ImTheScientist]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

Yeah, and neither do Seattle's butthurt fans.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

Yeah, and neither do Seattle's butthurt fans.

why would we cry? 2-1...

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

Yeah, and neither do Seattle's butthurt fans.

why would we cry? 2-1...

That's the same question I'm asking.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

Yeah, and neither do Seattle's butthurt fans.

why would we cry? 2-1...

That's the same question I'm asking.

You forget the "?" at the end of your post then....guess I didn't take it as a question. To answer your question hawk fans are loving this. Back to back weeks in the headlines....back to back wins against good teams.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

If I were you I'd be more concerned with how the Packers are going to keep Rodgers upright without being able to hold. The replacement refs certainly can't help you anymore on that one...

Yup....and now Rodgers has nothing to cry about.

Yeah, and neither do Seattle's butthurt fans.

why would we cry? 2-1...

That's the same question I'm asking.

You forget the "?" at the end of your post then....guess I didn't take it as a question. To answer your question hawk fans are loving this. Back to back weeks in the headlines....back to back wins against good teams.

All I read is hawk fans playing victim this week and getting extremely defensive.

 

[everydayj]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

Troll much? Did you watch the first half of that game?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

Troll much? Did you watch the first half of that game?

I didn't get to watch much of the first half but believe those who state that Seattle's D dominated. The stats back that up. The Packers owned the 2nd half. And that final Seattle drive was a joke.

 

[everydayj]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

Troll much? Did you watch the first half of that game?

I didn't get to watch much of the first half but believe those who state that Seattle's D dominated. The stats back that up. The Packers owned the 2nd half. And that final Seattle drive was a joke.

There's no doubt about everything that you said there. I just think that it's ill informed to say that the replacement refs were the one that helped them win that game without looking at the entire picture. Yes, was the last place QUITE questionable? Yes, but the rest of the officiating throughout the entire game was dubious, at best. The refs were in part responsible for putting points on the board for the Packers AND the Seahawks with their phantom penalty calls, the absence of multitudes of holding calls, and such. It was a horribly, horribly officated game for both teams.

 

[Raider Nation]

Rah Rah!

Tied for 1st place.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Rah Rah!

Tied for 1st place.

 

[proninja]

Looks like a deal has been reached with the real refs. Seahawks are in trouble now - won't have replacement refs to help them out anymore. Uh-Oh. Now they have to win games on their own.

You're like a regular Nostradamus.

 

[Buffaloes]

2012 Seattle Seahawks: 1W 2L

NFL’s rulebook, casebook confirm call was incorrect

Thats funny because nfl.com has them listed at 2W 1Lhttp://www.nfl.com/standings

Rah Rah or whatever you want to call it. Carroll has done a good job with this team, imo.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The Seahawks winning record is a mirage. They aren't very good. Nuttin but a bunch of pretenders.

Why?

 

[Raider Nation]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

 

[Hooper31]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

 

[Raider Nation]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

I love the guy whether it was intentional or not.

 

[mad sweeney]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

His ACs or the OC needed to tell him then and remind him. No reason to a) be that unsportsmanlike to a non-division opponent and b) even more important - save it for when it's needed.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

Carroll: "I don't care what the score is, or when it occurs in the 4th quarter, but under any and all circumstances you are to run a fake punt in that quarter, UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY CALL IT OFF!"Yeah. Right.

 

[Abspara]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Thats what makes Pete Carrol great

 

[Hooper31]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

Carroll: "I don't care what the score is, or when it occurs in the 4th quarter, but under any and all circumstances you are to run a fake punt in that quarter, UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY CALL IT OFF!"Yeah. Right.

LINK

On their way to victory, they successfully executed a fake punt up 47-17 in the fourth quarter. Michael Robinson’s 29-yard run set up a Steven Hauschka field goal and opened the door to criticism of Pete Carroll for running it up on a clearly beaten foe. Carroll was asked about the call after the game and said that he felt bad about it, explaining after the game that the play was in the playbook if the team got a particular look from the Bills and that he should have called it off given the situation.

“I feel bad about this. It was an automatic for us,” Carroll said, via Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times. “We looked for it every time we were going to punt, and it was just there. I should have stopped it in the sense that it looked bad.”

Odd that nobody is complaining except for some fans.

 

[mad sweeney]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

Carroll: "I don't care what the score is, or when it occurs in the 4th quarter, but under any and all circumstances you are to run a fake punt in that quarter, UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY CALL IT OFF!"Yeah. Right.

LINK

On their way to victory, they successfully executed a fake punt up 47-17 in the fourth quarter. Michael Robinson’s 29-yard run set up a Steven Hauschka field goal and opened the door to criticism of Pete Carroll for running it up on a clearly beaten foe. Carroll was asked about the call after the game and said that he felt bad about it, explaining after the game that the play was in the playbook if the team got a particular look from the Bills and that he should have called it off given the situation.

“I feel bad about this. It was an automatic for us,” Carroll said, via Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times. “We looked for it every time we were going to punt, and it was just there. I should have stopped it in the sense that it looked bad.”

Odd that nobody is complaining except for some fans.

I'm complaining. Several people in the chain of command should've put an end to this if for no other reason than to preserve the surprise for when it was actually needed.

 

[Hooper31]

I'm complaining. Several people in the chain of command should've put an end to this if for no other reason than to preserve the surprise for when it was actually needed.

Yeah, but you're always mad. And you do make a fair point.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Runs a fake punt up by 30 in the 4th.

Just listened to the post game. They had that in the game plan all week and it was an automatic that he failed to call off. It wasn't an apology or anything, but he made it clear that he regretted it.

Carroll: "I don't care what the score is, or when it occurs in the 4th quarter, but under any and all circumstances you are to run a fake punt in that quarter, UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY CALL IT OFF!"Yeah. Right.

LINK

On their way to victory, they successfully executed a fake punt up 47-17 in the fourth quarter. Michael Robinson’s 29-yard run set up a Steven Hauschka field goal and opened the door to criticism of Pete Carroll for running it up on a clearly beaten foe. Carroll was asked about the call after the game and said that he felt bad about it, explaining after the game that the play was in the playbook if the team got a particular look from the Bills and that he should have called it off given the situation.

“I feel bad about this. It was an automatic for us,” Carroll said, via Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times. “We looked for it every time we were going to punt, and it was just there. I should have stopped it in the sense that it looked bad.”

Odd that nobody is complaining except for some fans.

FWIW, adding a link of Carroll trying to hamfistedly explain away his Shenanigan does not make it any less of a Shenanigan.

 

[Hooper31]

FWIW, adding a link of Carroll trying to hamfistedly explain away his Shenanigan does not make it any less of a Shenanigan.

I get that your team got smashed today, and that fake punt seemed really stupid at the time. I agree. If I had the chance to consider that play there's no way I call that. For the record, are you just outright calling Carroll a liar? If so, I can't help but think you had your mind made up about him as a person well before that play happened. Of all the Seahawks coaches I've had the opportunity to watch closely over the past 30 years of serious NFL fandom (Knox, Flores, Erickson, Holmgren, Mora, and Carroll), Carroll seems the most genuine and honestly just a good dude. I'm convinced that whatever reputation he earned while at USC (and I think its mostly bad) has been undeserved.

 

[Raider Nation]

FWIW, adding a link of Carroll trying to hamfistedly explain away his Shenanigan does not make it any less of a Shenanigan.

I get that your team got smashed today

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

FWIW, adding a link of Carroll trying to hamfistedly explain away his Shenanigan does not make it any less of a Shenanigan.

I get that your team got smashed today, and that fake punt seemed really stupid at the time. I agree. If I had the chance to consider that play there's no way I call that. For the record, are you just outright calling Carroll a liar? If so, I can't help but think you had your mind made up about him as a person well before that play happened. Of all the Seahawks coaches I've had the opportunity to watch closely over the past 30 years of serious NFL fandom (Knox, Flores, Erickson, Holmgren, Mora, and Carroll), Carroll seems the most genuine and honestly just a good dude. I'm convinced that whatever reputation he earned while at USC (and I think its mostly bad) has been undeserved.

Neither a Seahawk nor a Bill fan at all. And yes, I think Carroll is full of it. I don't know Carroll any more than you do. To me, watching him constantly leap all over the field acting like a drunk cheerleader rather than having the decorum of a head coach, makes me suspect he is just the kind of guy who would run up the score and rub a team's face in it, then try to pass it off as the kind of play that was supposedly "automatic" in the game plan.

 

[Hooper31]

Neither a Seahawk nor a Bill fan at all. And yes, I think Carroll is full of it. I don't know Carroll any more than you do. To me, watching him constantly leap all over the field acting like a drunk cheerleader rather than having the decorum of a head coach, makes me suspect he is just the kind of guy who would run up the score and rub a team's face in it, then try to pass it off as the kind of play that was supposedly "automatic" in the game plan.

Fair enough, but it sounds like I do know Carroll a lot better than you do. I've watched every press conference before and after games since he's been here in Seattle. If I'm understanding you correctly you probably haven't watched any of them. I've found Carroll to be a very honest guy, especially in awkward situations. He's been very forthright in calling himself out and admitting mistakes in post game press conferences.

 

[mad sweeney]

FWIW, adding a link of Carroll trying to hamfistedly explain away his Shenanigan does not make it any less of a Shenanigan.

I get that your team got smashed today, and that fake punt seemed really stupid at the time. I agree. If I had the chance to consider that play there's no way I call that. For the record, are you just outright calling Carroll a liar? If so, I can't help but think you had your mind made up about him as a person well before that play happened. Of all the Seahawks coaches I've had the opportunity to watch closely over the past 30 years of serious NFL fandom (Knox, Flores, Erickson, Holmgren, Mora, and Carroll), Carroll seems the most genuine and honestly just a good dude. I'm convinced that whatever reputation he earned while at USC (and I think its mostly bad) has been undeserved.

I'm not saying you're wrong Hooper, but I don't totally buy Carroll's explanation myself. I'm a USC fan (more just because I live here and they usually play good ball whcih is all I care about in college football) and I don't get all the hate for Pete, especially the cheating part since the Bush thing had nothing to do with the school. I just think that like all coaches they're going to obfuscate and prevaricate and try to influence public opinion like almost everyone these days seems to do. His explanation seems far fetched, especially coming after similar claims last week. Maybe he's covering for players on the field that changed it, maybe he's telling the truth, but I don't think questioning him on this is indicative of an agenda.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Neither a Seahawk nor a Bill fan at all. And yes, I think Carroll is full of it. I don't know Carroll any more than you do. To me, watching him constantly leap all over the field acting like a drunk cheerleader rather than having the decorum of a head coach, makes me suspect he is just the kind of guy who would run up the score and rub a team's face in it, then try to pass it off as the kind of play that was supposedly "automatic" in the game plan.

Fair enough, but it sounds like I do know Carroll a lot better than you do. I've watched every press conference before and after games since he's been here in Seattle. If I'm understanding you correctly you probably haven't watched any of them. I've found Carroll to be a very honest guy, especially in awkward situations. He's been very forthright in calling himself out and admitting mistakes in post game press conferences.

Won't argue who "knows" Carroll better, it's not an argument anyone can credibly make given that it is based on subjective interpretation on our observations.But FWIW, been living in Seattle for the past 7 years, so I've seen my share of pressers and wrap up interviews on Q13's Gameday, quotes and features in the local papers and blogs, etc. etc. We're just interpreting the same footage in different ways and ascribing our own views on Carroll's mien. I will certainly acknowledge that just as I have every right to think he's a bit of a showboating doosh, you have every right to think he's a humble workaday everyman.

 

[Hooper31]

Maybe he's covering for players on the field that changed it, maybe he's telling the truth, but I don't think questioning him on this is indicative of an agenda.

Is it that much of a stretch to think they they practiced and planned to run a fake this week? Carroll said they saw an opportunity in the film and decided to plan for it. Making matter worse they knew DeHaven well as he was the special teams coach last year in Seattle. I don't understand why it seems far-fetched that they planned for this all week long.

 

[Hooper31]

We're just interpreting the same footage in different ways and ascribing our own views on Carroll's mien. I will certainly acknowledge that just as I have every right to think he's a bit of a showboating doosh, you have every right to think he's a humble workaday everyman.

 

[mad sweeney]

Maybe he's covering for players on the field that changed it, maybe he's telling the truth, but I don't think questioning him on this is indicative of an agenda.

Is it that much of a stretch to think they they practiced and planned to run a fake this week? Carroll said they saw an opportunity in the film and decided to plan for it. Making matter worse they knew DeHaven well as he was the special teams coach last year in Seattle. I don't understand why it seems far-fetched that they planned for this all week long.

I didn't say it's far fetched, just that I don't buy it necessarily. It may very well be true, but I don't see how all the people involved thought it was a good thing to run at that point in a blowout and just because Carroll said so doesn't make it true. Obviously they practiced it.

 

[Raider Nation]

RAH RAH!

 

[Hooper31]

RAH RAH!

Sure. Why not?