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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

Schmegma said:
I hoped to get up early and do my 9 mile run before all the neighbors start mowing their lawns, etc, but it's 47 degrees (feels like 44) and raining right now. :bs:
I'd love to have weather like that. Low temp here was 73 at around 5am. Near 90 now at 10. :doh:
 
(marathon on Saturday)
Me too. :) Good luck! :shrug:
Glllllllllllllllllll!!!!Run fast and strong (both relative terms, of course!!) :lmao: (gatorade, of course)
50K Extreme Trail Run...and it went perfectly!! :) Started at 6:15...told the wife to start looking for me at around 4pm, likely...and finished at 3 minutes 'til...total of 9:42.A few hallmarks:Started the day with 100ozs of Gatorade/Protein powder mix in my CamelBak. That was gone before mile 20. Filled it back up there with straight Gatorade (at an aid table) and IT was gone as I finished. Aaaand I drank cups of gatorade and water at every rest stop - 5 or 6. I had a Gu at every stop and carried some, as well. Total GU take was around 10 probably. I also ate a Met-RX protein bar - 1/2 at a time...once about 3 hours in...the other half probably around 7 in. The run was entirely in the woods...with but 1 mile or so stretch on park pavement. The woods provided plenty of shade throughout...but was "woodsy" humid and very warm as the afternoon wore on. Trails, of course...are not flat! Each footfall is different - all race long! Up...down...even on the "flats", the trail isn't flat! Roots, washes, deadfalls, rocks, mud, leaves, no "trail" - simply overland through the woods,etc...this requires one to pay attention...to every step...and every up-coming step - choosing where you will "land" next! Your running vision is continually scanning the trail ahead (but not too far ahead!) up and back - charting your course. Your running awareness must be at peak...all race long. As soon as your mind begins to wander - down you go! Tripping, rolling, stumbling, twisting, crashing, etc - I've seen it all! :cry: Maximum running awareness leads to maximum running joy...IMO. Nothing but fun!!Had to hotel it the day before as the race start was too far away to leave home and go the morning of. This essentially means...no homefield advantages in sleeping, eating, etc. So be it. Slept on the floor of a cheap hotel just off the freeway. Ate and drank as best I could...belly was not so good by morning! Again...so be it!Wife kept up her chatter about..."50K, 50K, 50K...I can't believe it!! You're crazy! 50k!! Wow!! I'm thinking - "S-T-F-U hon"...but simply respond - "I'm fine..." "It's okay..." Wife and kids think I'm gonna die...but I simply know my capabilities...AND my limitations.Essentially on Marathon-like distances...I merely note internally that I'm going for a run, a long run...that'll take all day. Piece a cake.Only a few minutes before I started did I begin to fear! That quickly dissapated...and we were off! 44 of us would run the 50k...34 more would run 50 MILES! Ultimately...I would beat an old man and another guy...and several 50 milers would beat me! :cry: (This 76 yr old man apparently holds the Minnesota record for 65+ age group - in the 100k!!)The day started nice and cool and a little breezy...by noonish it was 80+ and no wind. Birds were singing all morning...but by afternoon, every f'n big f'n fly was conducting kamikaze exercises around my gourd!! Jeez that was annoying!! :D I run in a regular cotton T-shirt (old race T-shirts) with the sleeves ripped off. Always have. It was comfortable. Bandaid'ed up my nips...but at some point bandaids went their own way, I noted afterwards. One stuck to my belly...the other just plain gone!Had to shorten my stride length somewhere in the 4 or 5 hour range...as my groin muscles in both legs began to---what? I don't know?? They simply began to hurt...and I noted that only in shortening my stride did I not aggravate any worse. I still don't know...I'm fine today. But that was kind of a new thing during the race. Knees always become "tired" after a few hours...I just run with it. Shoulders and neck really began to tighten up after 7 or 8 hours...lots of stretching kept me fine. Likely the CamelBak and the "running stick" I carry contribute to that. Wife bought me a 5' long hickory staff last Fall for my birthday. I've carried on all trail runs since (including my "daily" trail runs). Probably a hair heavier than optimum, but...a stick is a necessity for me on a run in the woods. I have a couple of herniated discs in my lower back...and it simply is essential that I keep my center of gavity on a run..."centered"! Any sudden twisting or turning, sliding or losing balance - center of gravity shifting without notice, etc - would be disastrous! The stick helps with all of this. Helps going up hills and down...helps in creek crossings, running through mud and walking on logs, etc. Helps in simply stopping to rest for a moment...in that I can shift some weight off of my feet. Simply wouldn't run without anymore...anymore than without my Camelbak or my shoes!Also because of back concerns...I've learned to run "light"...as in light on my feet. Won't find me pounding down the trail...in big, looping strides anymore. My back simply wouldn't take the pounding. I run lightly...with a gliding gait...and upright...turning to shorter, shuffling steps as my muscles become more and more fatigued. Simply not as much pushing power any longer...The back...and what I must do to protect it are simply running constants. I don't mind, but I do know going into a race...that I will NOT be fast...and that I WILL be near the tail-end. :D MY "time" simply has no relevance to my sense of accomplishment...my personal "glory"...or as a measure of my performance.I passed nobody all day...except the old man about 10 minutes in. We chatted for a few minutes...gave each other a thumbs-up...then I never saw him again. He finished an hour or so behind me. Towards the latter part of my race day...I was passed by a number of 50-milers...all but 1 or 2...passing along their encouragements! Also in conjunction with these 2 races...were relay's with teams of 5 or 6 runners...running different sections of trail. Passed all day by these folks...mostly younger...and almost all offering encouragement to the Ultra-guy! Was very nice... :) ! At one point...around 6 hours or so...I could hear through the woods a buncha cheering every so often. This meant civilization again, for one (water, food...a smiling face...!) but also a gathering of runners cheering on their teamates as they emerged from the forest. Pretty cool, I thought - I'm gonna pretend their cheering for ME when I get there... :D When I left the woods...there they were - about 50 young people...runners all...and indeed...they WERE cheering for me!! :o Brought tears to my eyes! They'd formed a large group...on either side of the trail...in a clearing for the aid station...and they were cheering and clapping and giving to each runner as we approached the 20 mile marker. WoW!!! Simply an incredible boost!! Very, very generous - :)Finished fine...felt great! Tired - sure. Very tired...! Wifey was awaiting my finish...she'd volunteered to help all day long at the finish point. She'd seen me coming - recognizes my running "form" she says - (upright, steady...like the little engine that could - :D ) - anyway...she'd seen me coming even before the finish line call went out - "Runner cominnnng"! This brought everyone to their feet...all the runners that had finished...all the volunteers cooking, passing out goodies, etc...exhorting us across the last 100 yards or so of meadow...to finish up our running day!!You shoulda heard the roar when the old fella came in sight!! Simply amazing!!Very, very nice way to finish!!That's enough, I guess...I really could go on and on. I had an excellent day...a memorable run...and I've lived to run another day! :D These events are nothing but pure joy! Wonderful lessons in generosity and comraderie as a group - and personal exercises in a sort of spirituality and perseverance as an individual. I love every moment! :cry:
 
my 5k race..

part of the Mississauga Marathon weekend.. about 900 runners in the 5k.. I lined up about 15 feet off the start line.

Horn goes and Im running past everyone dodging bodies and cones along the way (should have started near the front!). The first kilometer was brutally fast I checked my watch at the 1km sign and I almost lunch my lunch 3:13! Well I know I'm not running a 16 minute 5k so its time to pull WAY back. I slowed a bit and got into a good rythym passed 2km at 7:01. 3km was through a widing forest path (paved) and up over a bridge to a loop by the lake. I passed a few people here and came up to the 3km sign at 11:47. I knew I was off pace to beat 20 mins but I decided to go for it anyway, my hammy was fine, I had no soreness and I felt great. As I was coming into the 1k loop at the base of the lake I saw the leader sprint on by towards the last k and the finish line.

At about 3.5 km in (I could see and hear the finish line as the winner was approaching, across the bay) My hammy just wasn't having it and it twitched on me. The pain wasn't bad, but the psychological impact was huge. I knew I ###### it up again and that I would be in pain later. Regardless I kept up at a good pace even passing a few people on the hill to the finish line. I ended up finishing in 21:24 good for 38 of 900 and 3/20 in my age class (20-24).

I was really sore about a half hour after the race but got it massaged and iced and I'm a bit better now. I'm not running today or tomorrow but hope to be back at on tuesday!

To everyone else who ran this weekend I enjoyed the reports!

 
50K Extreme Trail Run...and it went perfectly!!Started at 6:15...told the wife to start looking for me at around 4pm, likely...and finished at 3 minutes 'til...total of 9:42.A few hallmarks:Started the day with 100ozs of Gatorade/Protein powder mix in my CamelBak. That was gone before mile 20. Filled it back up there with straight Gatorade (at an aid table) and IT was gone as I finished. Aaaand I drank cups of gatorade and water at every rest stop - 5 or 6. I had a Gu at every stop and carried some, as well. Total GU take was around 10 probably. I also ate a Met-RX protein bar - 1/2 at a time...once about 3 hours in...the other half probably around 7 in. The run was entirely in the woods...with but 1 mile or so stretch on park pavement. The woods provided plenty of shade throughout...but was "woodsy" humid and very warm as the afternoon wore on. Trails, of course...are not flat! Each footfall is different - all race long! Up...down...even on the "flats", the trail isn't flat! Roots, washes, deadfalls, rocks, mud, leaves, no "trail" - simply overland through the woods,etc...this requires one to pay attention...to every step...and every up-coming step - choosing where you will "land" next! Your running vision is continually scanning the trail ahead (but not too far ahead!) up and back - charting your course. Your running awareness must be at peak...all race long. As soon as your mind begins to wander - down you go! Tripping, rolling, stumbling, twisting, crashing, etc - I've seen it all! Maximum running awareness leads to maximum running joy...IMO. Nothing but fun!!Had to hotel it the day before as the race start was too far away to leave home and go the morning of. This essentially means...no homefield advantages in sleeping, eating, etc. So be it. Slept on the floor of a cheap hotel just off the freeway. Ate and drank as best I could...belly was not so good by morning! Again...so be it!Wife kept up her chatter about..."50K, 50K, 50K...I can't believe it!! You're crazy! 50k!! Wow!! I'm thinking - "S-T-F-U hon"...but simply respond - "I'm fine..." "It's okay..." Wife and kids think I'm gonna die...but I simply know my capabilities...AND my limitations.Essentially on Marathon-like distances...I merely note internally that I'm going for a run, a long run...that'll take all day. Piece a cake.Only a few minutes before I started did I begin to fear! That quickly dissapated...and we were off! 44 of us would run the 50k...34 more would run 50 MILES! Ultimately...I would beat an old man and another guy...and several 50 milers would beat me! (This 76 yr old man apparently holds the Minnesota record for 65+ age group - in the 100k!!)The day started nice and cool and a little breezy...by noonish it was 80+ and no wind. Birds were singing all morning...but by afternoon, every f'n big f'n fly was conducting kamikaze exercises around my gourd!! Jeez that was annoying!! I run in a regular cotton T-shirt (old race T-shirts) with the sleeves ripped off. Always have. It was comfortable. Bandaid'ed up my nips...but at some point bandaids went their own way, I noted afterwards. One stuck to my belly...the other just plain gone!Had to shorten my stride length somewhere in the 4 or 5 hour range...as my groin muscles in both legs began to---what? I don't know?? They simply began to hurt...and I noted that only in shortening my stride did I not aggravate any worse. I still don't know...I'm fine today. But that was kind of a new thing during the race. Knees always become "tired" after a few hours...I just run with it. Shoulders and neck really began to tighten up after 7 or 8 hours...lots of stretching kept me fine. Likely the CamelBak and the "running stick" I carry contribute to that. Wife bought me a 5' long hickory staff last Fall for my birthday. I've carried on all trail runs since (including my "daily" trail runs). Probably a hair heavier than optimum, but...a stick is a necessity for me on a run in the woods. I have a couple of herniated discs in my lower back...and it simply is essential that I keep my center of gavity on a run..."centered"! Any sudden twisting or turning, sliding or losing balance - center of gravity shifting without notice, etc - would be disastrous! The stick helps with all of this. Helps going up hills and down...helps in creek crossings, running through mud and walking on logs, etc. Helps in simply stopping to rest for a moment...in that I can shift some weight off of my feet. Simply wouldn't run without anymore...anymore than without my Camelbak or my shoes!Also because of back concerns...I've learned to run "light"...as in light on my feet. Won't find me pounding down the trail...in big, looping strides anymore. My back simply wouldn't take the pounding. I run lightly...with a gliding gait...and upright...turning to shorter, shuffling steps as my muscles become more and more fatigued. Simply not as much pushing power any longer...The back...and what I must do to protect it are simply running constants. I don't mind, but I do know going into a race...that I will NOT be fast...and that I WILL be near the tail-end. :D MY "time" simply has no relevance to my sense of accomplishment...my personal "glory"...or as a measure of my performance.I passed nobody all day...except the old man about 10 minutes in. We chatted for a few minutes...gave each other a thumbs-up...then I never saw him again. He finished an hour or so behind me. Towards the latter part of my race day...I was passed by a number of 50-milers...all but 1 or 2...passing along their encouragements! Also in conjunction with these 2 races...were relay's with teams of 5 or 6 runners...running different sections of trail. Passed all day by these folks...mostly younger...and almost all offering encouragement to the Ultra-guy! Was very nice... :) ! At one point...around 6 hours or so...I could hear through the woods a buncha cheering every so often. This meant civilization again, for one (water, food...a smiling face...!) but also a gathering of runners cheering on their teamates as they emerged from the forest. Pretty cool, I thought - I'm gonna pretend their cheering for ME when I get there... :D When I left the woods...there they were - about 50 young people...runners all...and indeed...they WERE cheering for me!! :o Brought tears to my eyes! They'd formed a large group...on either side of the trail...in a clearing for the aid station...and they were cheering and clapping and giving to each runner as we approached the 20 mile marker. WoW!!! Simply an incredible boost!! Very, very generous - :)Finished fine...felt great! Tired - sure. Very tired...! Wifey was awaiting my finish...she'd volunteered to help all day long at the finish point. She'd seen me coming - recognizes my running "form" she says - (upright, steady...like the little engine that could ) - anyway...she'd seen me coming even before the finish line call went out - "Runner cominnnng"! This brought everyone to their feet...all the runners that had finished...all the volunteers cooking, passing out goodies, etc...exhorting us across the last 100 yards or so of meadow...to finish up our running day!!You shoulda heard the roar when the old fella came in sight!! Simply amazing!!Very, very nice way to finish!!That's enough, I guess...I really could go on and on. I had an excellent day...a memorable run...and I've lived to run another day! :D These events are nothing but pure joy! Wonderful lessons in generosity and comraderie as a group - and personal exercises in a sort of spirituality and perseverance as an individual. I love every moment! :shrug:
:shrug: ........... :goodposting: :bs: :bow: :bow:
 
I went out for 30 mins today (no bike yesterday :) ).

Felt TERRIBLE: heavy legs (no reason for them), labored/wheezing breathing (frigging allergies), and sweating like a pig.

Maybe after my 10 minute swim the other day, I should temper my IM dreams for a bit... bleh. At least the knee didn't hurt.

 
Poppa and Cowboys did a great job this weekend. I almost wish that I had a race this weekend to post about.

I did do 6.29 miles at 9:47m/m on Saturday, and

4.54 miles at 10:07 m/m on Sunday.

Monday and Wednesday are my treadmill days, I run for 45 minutes and usuallt get in about 4.6 miles on each day.

I am so glad I started running in December. I get a great sense of accomplishment whenever I finish any run. Of course most of my friends think I am nuts. My best friend is waiting to see if running or tennis gets me killed. :pickle: Heck, I have almost talked myself into trying to run a marathon in 2009.

Again, great job. Have a good week.

 
Schmegma said:
I hoped to get up early and do my 9 mile run before all the neighbors start mowing their lawns, etc, but it's 47 degrees (feels like 44) and raining right now. :thumbup: According to the forecast it's supposed to clear up around 3:00 and the temp should be up to a whopping 63 degrees by then, so I guess I'll have to find something else to do this morning. It is mother's day, so I guess I could do something nice for my wife.
The rain left town a little early, so I was on the road by 2:00 today for my 9 mile run. I lived through it, and managed to cut 2:18 off of my time from the same run last Sunday. However, I did try something different. Last Sunday I ran the entire time, and this week I decided to simulate what it would be like if I ran just a little faster between the water stations along the marathon route and then walked for 1 minute at each water station (6 breaks today should be close to the 9 breaks I will have for the half marathon). I also took 14 oz of Gatorade Endurance on my Fuel Belt today, which I didn't have last Sunday, and took a drink at each walk break. I only had one really bad mile, and that was the 5th mile (11:39). My left knee was nearly perfect today, but my right knee took over where that one left off, and the pain during the 5th mile was excruciating. I had thoughts of calling it a day, but pressed on, remembering that I lived through the same pain last weekend in the other knee and was able to finish without stopping. After about 1.3 miles of pain I was feeling much better and the pain was reduced to annoying, which I could live with. My fastest mile of the last 7 miles was actually mile 6, so once the knee pain subsides I'm pretty much good to go. I'm still slow, but my only goals are to start and finish the half marathon on the 27th, so I really don't care.
 
gruecd, it'd be neat if we (with Schmegma) could hook up in Madison ..maybe sometime the day before the race.
For sure. I'll let you know if we decide to come down. If I'm feeling well enough recovered from GB, I might even run the 6K. I've never even heard of a 6K race before (much less run one), so regardless of how I'd do, I'd have an instant PR! :clap: Eight easy miles last night at about 7:45 pace, another easy six miles this morning at closer to 8:00 pace. Off tomorrow, then shooting for 16 on Saturday. Planning to run them pretty easy, but if I feel good enough, I might try to run the last 2-3 miles at marathon pace (7:15) and see how it goes.
gruecd - are you coming to Madison on the 26th & 27th? If so, you, tri-man, my brother in law and I should try to coordinate a meeting for some chow and some beers after we pick up our race packets. My BIL will be arriving in town around 2:00, so I'm guessing we'll be picking up our packets after 3:00 sometime. Shoot me a PM, or just reply in this thread so we can make everyone else jealous! :shrug:
 
Schmegma said:
I hoped to get up early and do my 9 mile run before all the neighbors start mowing their lawns, etc, but it's 47 degrees (feels like 44) and raining right now. :shrug: According to the forecast it's supposed to clear up around 3:00 and the temp should be up to a whopping 63 degrees by then, so I guess I'll have to find something else to do this morning. It is mother's day, so I guess I could do something nice for my wife.
The rain left town a little early, so I was on the road by 2:00 today for my 9 mile run. I lived through it, and managed to cut 2:18 off of my time from the same run last Sunday. However, I did try something different. Last Sunday I ran the entire time, and this week I decided to simulate what it would be like if I ran just a little faster between the water stations along the marathon route and then walked for 1 minute at each water station (6 breaks today should be close to the 9 breaks I will have for the half marathon). I also took 14 oz of Gatorade Endurance on my Fuel Belt today, which I didn't have last Sunday, and took a drink at each walk break. I only had one really bad mile, and that was the 5th mile (11:39). My left knee was nearly perfect today, but my right knee took over where that one left off, and the pain during the 5th mile was excruciating. I had thoughts of calling it a day, but pressed on, remembering that I lived through the same pain last weekend in the other knee and was able to finish without stopping. After about 1.3 miles of pain I was feeling much better and the pain was reduced to annoying, which I could live with. My fastest mile of the last 7 miles was actually mile 6, so once the knee pain subsides I'm pretty much good to go. I'm still slow, but my only goals are to start and finish the half marathon on the 27th, so I really don't care.
Are you using any Ibuprofren or painrelievers before or during your workouts?
 
good runs, Darrin and Schmegma!

And Schmegma, thanks for posting the info on the Mad City marathon nutritional offerings. That's great! I should be able to forego the fuel belt if they've got the fluids, gels, and fruit on the course as they say (if you half-marathoners don't take all the good stuff before we get there!). Also, I'll be flexible on the 26th for hooking up. I can be at the Expo and package pick-up before 3:00. I'm staying just a bit south and east of the Expo and race area (the ever classic and inexpensive Roadway Inn), but of course we can eat anywhere. We might be able to pick a pasta place from this list of Madison's italian restaurants.

 
This morning I extended my long run from 5.5 miles to 6.29 (according to mapmyrun.com). My only goal was to make it a nice easy run and to keep a steady pace. I ran it in 1:01:32, for a 9:47 m/m pace. Right now I really feel good, but right after I was done my right calf was complaining a little. An hour or so after my run it stopped, so I am not really worried about it. My next 5K is not until July 1, then not until September. Central Florida summers seem to be filled with half marathons and marathons. I am also training for a 10k but that is not until next February. I am going to try and increase my long run by at least half a mile every month, but I will have to see how that goes. Overall I am happy about my progress to date. I hope everyone else is doing as well.Have a great weekend.
nice job!
 
Just got back from my 5K. Finished in 19:36, the same time as my PR from last fall, but on a much more hilly course. Placed 42nd out of a couple thousand participants and 14th in the 30-39 age group. Averaged 6:19 pace for the 3.1 miles, although my Garmin says that I ran 3.23 miles, which brings me down to 6:04. :yucky:

Just a couple of 4-milers and a couple of 6-milers on the schedule for next week, and then Green Bay next Sunday!
nice job on the 5k.
 
Bleah, what a :yucky: morning. First I slept through two snooze alarms before I realized it was Saturday and I should have gotten up on the first alarm to go run. :shock:I intended to do 2x5mi loops = 10mi, but ended up cutting it short and only doing 8mi. After the first loop, I just felt so bleah (it was too warm already, so I'll have to get up earlier next week) that I only got in another mile+ before it was time to walk. I walked most of the next mile (mostly uphill, then running the downhills), and then ran the last 1/2mi downhill to finish up the 8mi.What a sucky start to a lllloooooonnnngggg day (gotta come in to work today, trying to squeeze a few more hours into the week to finish a project).
8 miles would be a great day to me. funny how different people have different perspectives.
 
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IK... bummer about the cramp. Gotta say I've never heard of a hip cramp, but I'm very glad it wasn't something worse.Incredible work gutting your way through it- how many people probably would have just shut it down when the pain got too bad. This sounds like one of those races to flie away in the "experience" file. You fought though adversity and got it done. That's one more marathon for your legs and body to remember for the next time when you'll hopefully put it all together the way you want to. Other people have said it in here, and I'm going to try and remember it when I'm running my races his season at paces and times far below what I had gotten used to- finishing is the important thing, especially for something as long as a marthon.Great, inspiring work!
exactly what I was going to say. Congratulations on finishing in tough conditions. You finished a marathon. Say that a couple of times to yourself. 26 point ####### 2 miles. Great job!
 
Two weeks out from the SoldierField10 mile, so I decided to take the training wheels off and see what I can do... Ideally, I am hoping I can dial in a sub-80 for the race, so that's what I targeted today (41 front, 39 back). I finished with a 40:47 / 39:50 for a very near miss and a course PR by over a minute. My last mile was a 7:37, which is about what I can typically muster up to finish a 6 miler on a good day. The next two weeks will go pretty easy - nothing over 6 miles and nothing too fast. If my mile splits start with a "7" at the race, I will be very, very happy. You guys out there consistently running 7's amaze me, but it's the guys running the 9's and 10's who inspire me. :goodposting:
Nice times. sounds like you are really dialed in for the 10 miler. Who knows, I may try that one next year. And hopefully by then I am out of the inspiring catagory (won't be in the amazing catagory).
 
Poppa and Cowboys did a great job this weekend. I almost wish that I had a race this weekend to post about. I did do 6.29 miles at 9:47m/m on Saturday, and4.54 miles at 10:07 m/m on Sunday. Monday and Wednesday are my treadmill days, I run for 45 minutes and usuallt get in about 4.6 miles on each day. I am so glad I started running in December. I get a great sense of accomplishment whenever I finish any run. Of course most of my friends think I am nuts. My best friend is waiting to see if running or tennis gets me killed. :goodposting: Heck, I have almost talked myself into trying to run a marathon in 2009.Again, great job. Have a good week.
I am glad I didn't have a race to write about those were both AMAZING stories for different reasons and would be hard to measure up.Are you not training for anything right now? Just running for running? I am not sure I could do that. It is nice having the goal. I am trying to figure out my next goal.
 
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Cliffs Notes: I got a dehyrdation cramp around mile 20, so my marathon ended up sucking horribly, but I still finished.

...it's very disappointing to finish so slowly when I'm 100% confident that I could have turned in at least a 25 minute better time. But I got my shirt, I got my finisher's medal, and my wife PRed in the Half, so there will be many beers consumed in the Karamazov household today.
October 10, 2004: Chicago MarathonGoal time: 4:15

Finish time: 4:47:40

Got dehydrated, puked at mile 20, literally laid down at the side of the road for a minute at mile 23 because my head was spinning.

In other words: I understand. Congratulations on the finish. At the end of the day, that's what counts.

:thumbup: :banned:
:goodposting: Been there, done that! Dallas Marathon 2 years ago I cramped up like nobody's business around mile 18, and started puking around mile 23. I finished 45 minutes slower than my goal. In hindsight, it's one of my races that I am most proud of.

IK= Congrat's on doing it, and making some memories! Had it all gone honkey-dorey you wouldn't have the day embedded in your memory nearly as much. Chalk it up as an amazing goal reached regardless of your time. Welcome to the 26.2 club!!! Congrat's also to the Mrs. as well!

 
50K Extreme Trail Run...and it went perfectly!! :) ...Wife kept up her chatter about..."50K, 50K, 50K...I can't believe it!! You're crazy! 50k!! Wow!! I'm thinking - "S-T-F-U hon"...but simply respond - "I'm fine..." "It's okay..." Wife and kids think I'm gonna die...but I simply know my capabilities...AND my limitations.Essentially on Marathon-like distances...I merely note internally that I'm going for a run, a long run...that'll take all day. Piece a cake....I passed nobody all day...except the old man about 10 minutes in. We chatted for a few minutes...gave each other a thumbs-up...then I never saw him again. He finished an hour or so behind me. Towards the latter part of my race day...I was passed by a number of 50-milers...all but 1 or 2...passing along their encouragements! Also in conjunction with these 2 races...were relay's with teams of 5 or 6 runners...running different sections of trail. Passed all day by these folks...mostly younger...and almost all offering encouragement to the Ultra-guy! Was very nice... :) ! At one point...around 6 hours or so...I could hear through the woods a buncha cheering every so often. This meant civilization again, for one (water, food...a smiling face...!) but also a gathering of runners cheering on their teamates as they emerged from the forest. Pretty cool, I thought - I'm gonna pretend their cheering for ME when I get there... :thumbup: When I left the woods...there they were - about 50 young people...runners all...and indeed...they WERE cheering for me!! :o Brought tears to my eyes! They'd formed a large group...on either side of the trail...in a clearing for the aid station...and they were cheering and clapping and giving to each runner as we approached the 20 mile marker. WoW!!! Simply an incredible boost!! Very, very generous - :)Finished fine...felt great! Tired - sure. Very tired...! Wifey was awaiting my finish...she'd volunteered to help all day long at the finish point. She'd seen me coming - recognizes my running "form" she says - (upright, steady...like the little engine that could - :banned: ) - anyway...she'd seen me coming even before the finish line call went out - "Runner cominnnng"! This brought everyone to their feet...all the runners that had finished...all the volunteers cooking, passing out goodies, etc...exhorting us across the last 100 yards or so of meadow...to finish up our running day!!You shoulda heard the roar when the old fella came in sight!! Simply amazing!!Very, very nice way to finish!!
These were my favorite parts. I really need to print this out and put it somewhere. Perhaps on my snooze bar so when I try to hit it when I am suppposed to get up and run, it will inspire me. That is so cool. This thread rocks.P.S. That being said, I still agree with your wife. 50k is "crazy". :goodposting:
 
my 5k race.. At about 3.5 km in (I could see and hear the finish line as the winner was approaching, across the bay) My hammy just wasn't having it and it twitched on me. The pain wasn't bad, but the psychological impact was huge. I knew I ###### it up again and that I would be in pain later. Regardless I kept up at a good pace even passing a few people on the hill to the finish line. I ended up finishing in 21:24 good for 38 of 900 and 3/20 in my age class (20-24).
Nice job! Finishing 3rd among the 20 - 24 year olds on a bad wheel is great. You mention "psychological impact" and as I do longer and longer runs, I am realizing how much of this is in my head. Now I know why the term sports psychologist exists. There are times you think of just stopping and walking during a run or cutting it short and heading back and, really, every step is a chance to stop. You can just not take the next step and start walking. But, if you can get your head to make you take the next step, eventually you will meet your goal. Running is not that hard. I am starting to like it.
 
Things move fast here! What an amazing weekend for running FBG's!! Some comments as I try to catch up with the thread:

DolphinsPhan: GREAT 7-miler! [thread hijack = are you a Parrothead?]

Darinll40: I've noted that you are thinking about a marathon in 2009. It is more than possible if you keep at it! Regarding your calves = tight hammies are often the problem. I recommend that you make stretch 5 on this site part of a daily routine.

gruecd: Oustanding 5k. Breaking 20 minutes is quite an accomplishment.

Wraith5: Negative splits, virtually right on goal pace is awesome!

Poppa: :lmao: 50k is inspiring. Even more inspiring is the joy that you seem to have had in the process. Thanks a ton for sharing.

Cowboys#1: Great 5k. Be careful on that hammie. The stretch I recommended to Darinll40 above is also recommended for you.

El Floppo: Your getting closer to getting back into it!! The first workouts coming back are the hardest = you've already passed the toughest hurdles. I see another IM in your future!

Schmegma: Great to hear that your knee is better, and that you had a good 9 miler.

 
Ran 5.1 or so this morning. I think I was only supposed to do 4.5 according to the schedule but I had the time and wanted to run by a certain area which, it turns out, added another .6 miles to the run.

Was under 50 minutes so that was pretty interesting. My pace is all over the place from what I can tell as I keep catching myself running slow but always seem to end up at around 10:00 minute mile pace for the entire run. One more thing to add to my list of things to work on.

Even before reading all the people with their various hip and leg problems this weekend, I was going to write that I can feel something in my right hip at times. I think I need to video tape myself on a treadmill and check my form. Not a big deal at all and may just be my "inspiration" to do more stretching including hips, etc.

Also, thought I would throw out there, at what point do I need to start worrying about hydration during a run? I can easily plan to run by various drinking fountains if I need to. I just have not really done anything about this and don't want to screw anything up. I am not worried about dehydration as I was 1 mile and 10 minutes or so short of my goal without hydrating this morning. But, maybe I should be worried. I also am wondering if I should worry about "over-hydrating" (or having to make an unplanned pit stop) if I stop at the water stations along the 10k. Thoughts?

 
TOO CUTE!!! Those pics are sooooo awesome. I can't wait to show my daughter (now 18, and my primary race fan).

I love the tattoos on the arms. Your (three) girls all look great. And you've got nice calves. :lmao:

Thanks for sharing!

 
GStrot said:
Bleah, what a :D morning. First I slept through two snooze alarms before I realized it was Saturday and I should have gotten up on the first alarm to go run. :)I intended to do 2x5mi loops = 10mi, but ended up cutting it short and only doing 8mi. After the first loop, I just felt so bleah (it was too warm already, so I'll have to get up earlier next week) that I only got in another mile+ before it was time to walk. I walked most of the next mile (mostly uphill, then running the downhills), and then ran the last 1/2mi downhill to finish up the 8mi.What a sucky start to a lllloooooonnnngggg day (gotta come in to work today, trying to squeeze a few more hours into the week to finish a project).
8 miles would be a great day to me. funny how different people have different perspectives.
Normally it would be a great day for anyone who was planning to run only 8 miles. However, when you're planning to run more than 8, it's a bit of a downer. :lmao: It was also my first long run after Nashville, so who knows, I may not have been recovered sufficiently. :lmao: I also realized after the fact that I didn't do my usual Thursday run, so last week was pretty much a clusterbump. lolI'll aim to have a better week this week, as it's pretty much my last strenuous week before San Diego. 3-4mi each on Mon/Wed/Thu, with a hilly 6mi on Saturday (hopefully I'll get up before the rooster does lol). Then I'll just have two more weeks of easy 3-4s on M/W/Th/Sa and raceday will be here!
 
GStrot said:
You mention "psychological impact" and as I do longer and longer runs, I am realizing how much of this is in my head. Now I know why the term sports psychologist exists. There are times you think of just stopping and walking during a run or cutting it short and heading back and, really, every step is a chance to stop. You can just not take the next step and start walking. But, if you can get your head to make you take the next step, eventually you will meet your goal. Running is not that hard. I am starting to like it.
I'm reading the book Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller, which I just found at the library. I'll share some info from it as time goes on, but it does focus a lot on the mental aspects of running and racing - it's a big part. Miller talks about developing systems and mantras to use to get by those barriers.
 
Ran 5.1 or so this morning. I think I was only supposed to do 4.5 according to the schedule but I had the time and wanted to run by a certain area which, it turns out, added another .6 miles to the run. Was under 50 minutes so that was pretty interesting. My pace is all over the place from what I can tell as I keep catching myself running slow but always seem to end up at around 10:00 minute mile pace for the entire run. One more thing to add to my list of things to work on.Even before reading all the people with their various hip and leg problems this weekend, I was going to write that I can feel something in my right hip at times. I think I need to video tape myself on a treadmill and check my form. Not a big deal at all and may just be my "inspiration" to do more stretching including hips, etc.Also, thought I would throw out there, at what point do I need to start worrying about hydration during a run? I can easily plan to run by various drinking fountains if I need to. I just have not really done anything about this and don't want to screw anything up. I am not worried about dehydration as I was 1 mile and 10 minutes or so short of my goal without hydrating this morning. But, maybe I should be worried. I also am wondering if I should worry about "over-hydrating" (or having to make an unplanned pit stop) if I stop at the water stations along the 10k. Thoughts?
Hmmmm...Form: To check your form "outside" - where your races will be - learn to note yourself in storefront windows...mirrored bldgs, etc...or telephone pole shadows. You should be running fairly erect, ummmm...straight-up, so note how your running shadow correlates to stand-up objects - like a telephone pole or a street sign.Don't know what your ratio of running outside to running on a treadmill is...but the more outside - the better! Much more natural...and certainly much more "race-like" conditions. Can't help but think your hips and legs will thank you.Water: I've seen ratios of hydration to minutes before...seems like the body needs 4ozs for every 20 minutes. Something like that. As I noted in my Trail run post...I drank approximately 225-250 oz of liquid over the course of nearly 10 hours. I stopped to piss...maybe 4 or 5 times. Seems reasonable. Everyone's different. I drink alot while running...my long-time partner drinks hardly at all. Note your hydration levels on a daily basis...when you're not running...just going about your daily routine. What kind of temperatures are you running in? Is there generally a breeze? Shade available? Learn to "monitor" your sweat level while running. Do you routinely drink coffee, cokes, beers, etc - all natural de-hydrators (Is that a word?) In other words...all these factors and more...will go into your hydration needs equation for a run.If you "feel" thirsty on a run...that's long past the time when you should've been hydrating! :lmao:
 
GStrot said:
You mention "psychological impact" and as I do longer and longer runs, I am realizing how much of this is in my head. Now I know why the term sports psychologist exists. There are times you think of just stopping and walking during a run or cutting it short and heading back and, really, every step is a chance to stop. You can just not take the next step and start walking. But, if you can get your head to make you take the next step, eventually you will meet your goal. Running is not that hard. I am starting to like it.
I'm reading the book Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller, which I just found at the library. I'll share some info from it as time goes on, but it does focus a lot on the mental aspects of running and racing - it's a big part. Miller talks about developing systems and mantras to use to get by those barriers.
RFM - "Relentless Forward Motion"Noted that phrase years ago...attributed to a champion trail runner.

One of my children asked me after this weekend's run - "Did you ever want to quit...?"

Of course not. You just keep moving...

:rant:

 
GStrot said:
Poppa and Cowboys did a great job this weekend. I almost wish that I had a race this weekend to post about. I did do 6.29 miles at 9:47m/m on Saturday, and4.54 miles at 10:07 m/m on Sunday. Monday and Wednesday are my treadmill days, I run for 45 minutes and usuallt get in about 4.6 miles on each day. I am so glad I started running in December. I get a great sense of accomplishment whenever I finish any run. Of course most of my friends think I am nuts. My best friend is waiting to see if running or tennis gets me killed. :no: Heck, I have almost talked myself into trying to run a marathon in 2009.Again, great job. Have a good week.
I am glad I didn't have a race to write about those were both AMAZING stories for different reasons and would be hard to measure up.Are you not training for anything right now? Just running for running? I am not sure I could do that. It is nice having the goal. I am trying to figure out my next goal.
I guess I am training for the 5K on July 1, but I am running because I seem to enjoy it. It is hard to explain, mostly because I have zero history of enjoying any type of exercise. But that being said, if I can increase my mileage enough over the next 8 or 9 months I may try a half-marathon next year. I will have to wait and see how it goes.
 
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Tri-Man - I don't want to look back through the entire thread to find it, but I believe you are the one who advocated doing lunges to improve leg strength / conditioning. If not, I apologize in advance. If I'm correct...

:finger:

:D

I stuck to my plan and did a relatively easy 6 miles on Sunday, and while doing my cooldown (walking to the end of the block and back) I thought to myself, "Hey - maybe I should take that suggestion and do some lunges on the way home." SOOO... I did 3 sets of about 8 for each leg while I walked back home.

Today I can barely move because my legs and ### are so freaking sore!! I figured since I've run about 300 miles since Feb 1 and especially now that I've been biking for a couple of weeks I'd have no problem. WOW was I wrong.

:shock:

 
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Ran 5.1 or so this morning. I think I was only supposed to do 4.5 according to the schedule but I had the time and wanted to run by a certain area which, it turns out, added another .6 miles to the run. Was under 50 minutes so that was pretty interesting. My pace is all over the place from what I can tell as I keep catching myself running slow but always seem to end up at around 10:00 minute mile pace for the entire run. One more thing to add to my list of things to work on.Even before reading all the people with their various hip and leg problems this weekend, I was going to write that I can feel something in my right hip at times. I think I need to video tape myself on a treadmill and check my form. Not a big deal at all and may just be my "inspiration" to do more stretching including hips, etc.Also, thought I would throw out there, at what point do I need to start worrying about hydration during a run? I can easily plan to run by various drinking fountains if I need to. I just have not really done anything about this and don't want to screw anything up. I am not worried about dehydration as I was 1 mile and 10 minutes or so short of my goal without hydrating this morning. But, maybe I should be worried. I also am wondering if I should worry about "over-hydrating" (or having to make an unplanned pit stop) if I stop at the water stations along the 10k. Thoughts?
Hmmmm...Form: To check your form "outside" - where your races will be - learn to note yourself in storefront windows...mirrored bldgs, etc...or telephone pole shadows. You should be running fairly erect, ummmm...straight-up, so note how your running shadow correlates to stand-up objects - like a telephone pole or a street sign.Don't know what your ratio of running outside to running on a treadmill is...but the more outside - the better! Much more natural...and certainly much more "race-like" conditions. Can't help but think your hips and legs will thank you.Water: I've seen ratios of hydration to minutes before...seems like the body needs 4ozs for every 20 minutes. Something like that. As I noted in my Trail run post...I drank approximately 225-250 oz of liquid over the course of nearly 10 hours. I stopped to piss...maybe 4 or 5 times. Seems reasonable. Everyone's different. I drink alot while running...my long-time partner drinks hardly at all. Note your hydration levels on a daily basis...when you're not running...just going about your daily routine. What kind of temperatures are you running in? Is there generally a breeze? Shade available? Learn to "monitor" your sweat level while running. Do you routinely drink coffee, cokes, beers, etc - all natural de-hydrators (Is that a word?) In other words...all these factors and more...will go into your hydration needs equation for a run.If you "feel" thirsty on a run...that's long past the time when you should've been hydrating! :blackdot:
Hmmmm. This seems like a lot of work. Thanks.
 
Tri-Man - I don't want to look back through the entire thread to find it, but I believe you are the one who advocated doing lunges to improve leg strength / conditioning. If not, I apologize in advance. If I'm correct...

:finger:

:confused:

I stuck to my plan and did a relatively easy 6 miles on Sunday, and while doing my cooldown (walking to the end of the block and back) I thought to myself, "Hey - maybe I should take that suggestion and do some lunges on the way home." SOOO... I did 3 sets of about 8 for each leg while I walked back home.

Today I can barely move because my legs and ### are so freaking sore!! I figured since I've run about 300 miles since Feb 1 and especially now that I've been biking for a couple of weeks I'd have no problem. WOW was I wrong.

:confused:
Thank you ...thank you very much.:Elvisvoice:

Number one, I wouldn't personally recommend doing lunges right after your run (that'd be the time for Schmegma's "lounges"). And b), you've quickly discovered why these are beneficial. The lunges do a particularly good job of working the butt muscles. The fact that you are in pain demonstrates that you've worked muscles that have not been worked like that before! Do some again next week (on an off-day or later in a light-running day), and I'll bet they hurt much less. Soon, they won't really hurt at all because you'll be whupping your sorry butt into shape! :blackdot: I would argue that these work your legs and butt in a way that just running (or even biking) don't ...the elongated motion, the strength of the push-off, etc. I would argue that this will help to lengthen and improve your stride.

 
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RFM - "Relentless Forward Motion"Noted that phrase years ago...attributed to a champion trail runner.One of my children asked me after this weekend's run - "Did you ever want to quit...?"Of course not. You just keep moving... :blackdot:
Interesting. I would have said "Just about every step. But, I didn't and that is what I am proud of."
 
GStrot said:
Poppa and Cowboys did a great job this weekend. I almost wish that I had a race this weekend to post about. I did do 6.29 miles at 9:47m/m on Saturday, and4.54 miles at 10:07 m/m on Sunday. Monday and Wednesday are my treadmill days, I run for 45 minutes and usuallt get in about 4.6 miles on each day. I am so glad I started running in December. I get a great sense of accomplishment whenever I finish any run. Of course most of my friends think I am nuts. My best friend is waiting to see if running or tennis gets me killed. :blackdot: Heck, I have almost talked myself into trying to run a marathon in 2009.Again, great job. Have a good week.
I am glad I didn't have a race to write about those were both AMAZING stories for different reasons and would be hard to measure up.Are you not training for anything right now? Just running for running? I am not sure I could do that. It is nice having the goal. I am trying to figure out my next goal.
I guess I am training for the 5K on July 1, but I am running because I seem to enjoy it. It is hard to explain, mostly because I have zero history of enjoying any type of exercise. But that being said, if I can increase my mileage enough over the next 8 or 9 months I may try a half-marathon next year. I will have to wait and see how it goes.
Looking forward to cheering on your progress!
 
OK, for some reason, most of you seem trustworthy.

Does anyone have any opinion n Jeff Galloway Training?

http://active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=1415280

Would it be worth 159 bucks?
No.a) You've got us.

b) You can use the free, Hal Higdon training that you find on-line.

Really, a lot of it is just getting in your good, steady miles.
:confused:
I agree :confused: Also, Runner's World Online is a great resource.

 
Tri-Man - I don't want to look back through the entire thread to find it, but I believe you are the one who advocated doing lunges to improve leg strength / conditioning. If not, I apologize in advance. If I'm correct...

:finger:

:unsure:

I stuck to my plan and did a relatively easy 6 miles on Sunday, and while doing my cooldown (walking to the end of the block and back) I thought to myself, "Hey - maybe I should take that suggestion and do some lunges on the way home." SOOO... I did 3 sets of about 8 for each leg while I walked back home.

Today I can barely move because my legs and ### are so freaking sore!! I figured since I've run about 300 miles since Feb 1 and especially now that I've been biking for a couple of weeks I'd have no problem. WOW was I wrong.

:confused:
Thank you ...thank you very much.:Elvisvoice:

Number one, I wouldn't personally recommend doing lunges right after your run (that'd be the time for Schmegma's "lounges"). And b), you've quickly discovered why these are beneficial. The lunges do a particularly good job of working the butt muscles. The fact that you are in pain demonstrates that you've worked muscles that have not been worked like that before! Do some again next week (on an off-day or later in a light-running day), and I'll bet they hurt much less. Soon, they won't really hurt at all because you'll be whupping your sorry butt into shape! :confused: I would argue that these work your legs and butt in a way that just running (or even biking) don't ...the elongated motion, the strength of the push-off, etc. I would argue that this will help to lengthen and improve your stride.
I've also benefited from these. Thanks Tri-Man (I also wanted to give you the finger the day after I did my first sets). :confused:
 
Tri-Man - I don't want to look back through the entire thread to find it, but I believe you are the one who advocated doing lunges to improve leg strength / conditioning. If not, I apologize in advance. If I'm correct...

:finger:

:cry:

I stuck to my plan and did a relatively easy 6 miles on Sunday, and while doing my cooldown (walking to the end of the block and back) I thought to myself, "Hey - maybe I should take that suggestion and do some lunges on the way home." SOOO... I did 3 sets of about 8 for each leg while I walked back home.

Today I can barely move because my legs and ### are so freaking sore!! I figured since I've run about 300 miles since Feb 1 and especially now that I've been biking for a couple of weeks I'd have no problem. WOW was I wrong.

:bs:
Thank you ...thank you very much.:Elvisvoice:

Number one, I wouldn't personally recommend doing lunges right after your run (that'd be the time for Schmegma's "lounges"). And b), you've quickly discovered why these are beneficial. The lunges do a particularly good job of working the butt muscles. The fact that you are in pain demonstrates that you've worked muscles that have not been worked like that before! Do some again next week (on an off-day or later in a light-running day), and I'll bet they hurt much less. Soon, they won't really hurt at all because you'll be whupping your sorry butt into shape! :lmao: I would argue that these work your legs and butt in a way that just running (or even biking) don't ...the elongated motion, the strength of the push-off, etc. I would argue that this will help to lengthen and improve your stride.
I've also benefited from these. Thanks Tri-Man (I also wanted to give you the finger the day after I did my first sets). :thumbup:
Either you're a Trek fan like me, in which case thank you, or we need to work on your numbering schemes... :shrug: :bag: In all seriousness I was really surprised when I got up this morning and found out how sore I am. Very good suggestion from you (one of many) and I think incorporating lunges into my routine will pay off in my times.

... of course, now I'm absolutely terrified to see what happens if I get into a pool and swim...

 
I was absoloutly stir crazy at work today.. all I could think about what was going home and running. My hammy was okay.. I stretched very thoroughly (thanks for the link btw) and was off.. It was pretty windy today with overcast skies.. the first km loop has a big downhill and the wind was in my face for it.. I ran very well through 2.5km and was happy to check my watch and see 10:30.. If I could run a 21:xx on a fairly easy training run WATCH OUT! second half the wind was at my back but I had to climb that huge hill approaching the hill the rain started coming down.. didnt look like it was meant to be. My hamstring at this point was telling me to relax a bit.. but being the 23 year old stubborn ### I ignored it.. I pushed like a mofo and finished my 5k loop in 20:52!

Man that was honestly a much better feeling than I had when I pb'd and it was only 13 seconds off that time. I'm feeling good right now and massaged and stretched the hammy when I got home.

..Pigskin you have a beautiful family, great to see the kids active at such a young age. Congrats!

 

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