Did an 8 mile tempo run averaging around 8:40s at lunch and I don't think I managed a single positive thought the whole run. I'm still waiting for the time when I get lost in thought and "come to" a few miles later. I can't imagine it ever happening to me. Nothing but "this sucks, I want to be done" thinking the whole way.
The good news is, despite that, I feel great now and am already at the point where I'm looking forward to Saturday's long run. I trick myself into thinking the next one won't suck. But it will, and I'll hate every minute of it. But then I'll "forget" how much I hated that one too, and do another one, and hate it....rinse....repeat....
Is this normal???
Sorry, Nigel. Like everybody else, I have bad long runs from time to time, but by and large I enjoy them. I don't know what kind of pace you're training for, but one option is just to slow down on your longer runs. IIRC though, I think you're doing that already so I don't have any good advice to share.
I'm a huge convert to the idea of running the vast majority of my runs at a pace that's truly comfortable. As a kid in high school, I was a chronic underachiever - as a student and runner - which I've come to realize was just another way of saying I was lazy. For cross country, I wouldn't train all summer, and I would slack off in practices as much as I could get away with. And then for the races, I would dig down deep and gut it out enough and rely on my untapped natural ability to usually be the 4th or 5th guy on our team. Running to me was defined as putting yourself through extreme agony for as long as you could stand it.When I started running last spring/summer, I ran each workout as hard as I possibly could. This time, I was determined not to slack off and to try to maximize by greatly diminished ability. As a result, I ended up sore all the time and looked forward to my runs with dread, not anticipation. But at some point, the light went on. I realized that running 90 percent of my runs more slowly meant that I would finish my runs feeling better than when I started. That I could train more often. And that on those occasions I did want to run fast, I would be able to run faster than I could if I had run all my previous workouts at maximum intensity. I realized the best runners don't put themselves through agony for as long as they can; they run as fast as they can without putting themselves through agony.
So I've gotten to the point where I run almost all my runs at a comfortable pace. In particular, my long runs sometimes feel ludicrously slow. But I don't even look at my watch during them, I just focus on running at a pace that feels like it's not tiring me at all, that will leave me feeling as full of energy at the end of the run as I feel at the beginning. Just for fun, I just checked my last 5 long runs for miles and pace:
14 miles - 9:30
15 - 9:37
11 - 9:21
17 - 9:19
18 - 9:12 for 14, then 4 at marathon goal pace to finish
When I started running again, there wasn't a workout where the thought of quitting before the end didn't cross my mind. Usually, I gritted my teeth and fought through to the end. Now, if the thought crosses my mind for a second that I might not be able to finish the workout, I take it as an immediate signal to slow down until I hit a pace comfortable enough that I know I'll be able to finish.
I guess all of this is a long-winded way of saying what Ivan said - if your runs are making you hate them, then maybe you're running too fast.