Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[gruecd]

Ooh, I put it in my signature, but I think I forgot to tell you guys. In keeping with my "trying something different" philosophy, I signed up for my first ever timed event, an 8-hour trail race on November 9. It's a 10K trail loop, and you just run as many miles as you can until time is up.

I have absolutely no idea what to expect, but I'm thinking that 50 miles would be a good, round number....

ETA: Here's a video of the trail. Looks pretty similar to Ice Age (about a "3").

 

[BassNBrew]

SFDuck, enjoy the taper. 50 miles on true trails? Now that's impressive. Some day I'd love to race crew or help pace one of your ultras out west.

Duck - Forgive my crappy memory, but this isn't your first 50, is it? I know when I did Ice Age in May, I said that I'd never do another 50-mile trail race like that, but I'll be damned if I don't already have December 15 marked on my calendar to register for next year's race...Speaking of which, taking off work this afternoon and heading down to the northern Kettle Moraine with a buddy of mine for ~18 miles on the IAT. 13 days to my 50K, and I can't wait.

Nope - He already had a very success 50 earlier in the year. This upcoming one will be on harder terrain.

 

[gruecd]

SFDuck, enjoy the taper. 50 miles on true trails? Now that's impressive. Some day I'd love to race crew or help pace one of your ultras out west.

Duck - Forgive my crappy memory, but this isn't your first 50, is it? I know when I did Ice Age in May, I said that I'd never do another 50-mile trail race like that, but I'll be damned if I don't already have December 15 marked on my calendar to register for next year's race...Speaking of which, taking off work this afternoon and heading down to the northern Kettle Moraine with a buddy of mine for ~18 miles on the IAT. 13 days to my 50K, and I can't wait.

Nope - He already had a very success 50 earlier in the year. This upcoming one will be on harder terrain.

OK, yeah, that's right.

Duck - I'm totally heading west sometime for an epic trail running weekend. Get your shoes ready.

 

[SFBayDuck]

SFDuck, enjoy the taper. 50 miles on true trails? Now that's impressive. Some day I'd love to race crew or help pace one of your ultras out west.

Duck - Forgive my crappy memory, but this isn't your first 50, is it? I know when I did Ice Age in May, I said that I'd never do another 50-mile trail race like that, but I'll be damned if I don't already have December 15 marked on my calendar to register for next year's race...Speaking of which, taking off work this afternoon and heading down to the northern Kettle Moraine with a buddy of mine for ~18 miles on the IAT. 13 days to my 50K, and I can't wait.

Nope - He already had a very success 50 earlier in the year. This upcoming one will be on harder terrain.

OK, yeah, that's right.

Duck - I'm totally heading west sometime for an epic trail running weekend. Get your shoes ready.

BnB is correct, I ran the American River 50 back in April in 10:30 to get my WS100 qualifying time for this December's lottery. And while that one was 26 miles of bike path, 23 miles of rolling trails and 3 miles of straight up hill, the Firetrails 50 coming up is about 95% trail with 7800' of ascent/descent. I showed my girlfriend/crew chief that elevation profile yesterday and her response was "And you won't go on a roller coaster?"

American River just opened up registration at midnight for the 2014 race. They've announced that they have changed the course dramatically, pretty much doing away with the bike path section it looks like (website isn't fully updated yet). My guess is that they knew they were at risk of losing their Western States qualifying status for being "too easy", so they made it tougher. States doesn't release the qualifying race list until some time in October, so I'm trying to get some intel to find out if it will indeed remain on the list. But I'll probably just sign up today anyway to be sure I get in, as I could always get a near full refund if I change my mind by January.

Grue, your run this afternoon sounds like a blast! And a timed event - that's a whole different mental animal. I haven't tried one yet, but you obviously lose the "if I move faster I can be done sooner" part of the motivation that sometimes keeps me going.

Looking forward to the day when some of you do make it out here for some time on the trails - as long as you wait for me at the trail intersections before taking off again! There are three of us putting in for WS100, right? Perhaps we'll beat the odds and someone will get in and have FBG crew/pacers along for the ride!

 

[gruecd]

There are three of us putting in for WS100, right? Perhaps we'll beat the odds and someone will get in and have FBG crew/pacers along for the ride!

Ugh. I wasn't really planning on entering the lottery. I honestly have ZERO desire to run that far (and in that heat)...

 

[Hang 10]

I just noticed that Grue added the fastest times tab to his race calender. It's time to start getting some times filled in there. Also, I added 8k into there since I've done so many of those lately.

 

[worrierking]

Wow, so much to catch up on. Mac, you are a beast! Congrats.

2Young, great job by Young2young!

SFDuck, enjoy the taper. 50 miles on true trails? Now that's impressive. Some day I'd love to race crew or help pace one of your ultras out west.

Duck - Forgive my crappy memory, but this isn't your first 50, is it? I know when I did Ice Age in May, I said that I'd never do another 50-mile trail race like that, but I'll be damned if I don't already have December 15 marked on my calendar to register for next year's race...

Speaking of which, taking off work this afternoon and heading down to the northern Kettle Moraine with a buddy of mine for ~18 miles on the IAT. 13 days to my 50K, and I can't wait.

It's like Brokeback Race Mountain: "I wish I could quit you." Our Summer of Speed is morphing into Fall Feats.

Sand - 100+ miles ..with several massive hills? Speaking of which, an incredible feat ...as if your 5K swims weren't enough!

worrierking, you up this coming weekend? How's the taper?

Tri, I am up on the 13th, so 13 days, thanks for asking. The taper is fine, just getting started really. I have slightly overtapered in the past, so I am still running pretty hard. I had a football trip to Iowa this weekend (My McNeese State Cowboys got hammered by Northern Iowa) and I ran a nice eight-miler in a State Park. Surprisingly, the trails were more technical than I was comfortable with, and not wanting to twist an ankle, I ended up running the roads. I enjoyed some hills for a change. Leave it to someone from coastal Louisiana to go to Iowa for hills.

Nice ride Sand!

 

[gruecd]

I just noticed that Grue added the fastest times tab to his race calender. It's time to start getting some times filled in there. Also, I added 8k into there since I've done so many of those lately.

Yeah, basically just go in there and enter your fastest time for each distance raced. If your time is faster than somebody who's already listed, just cut and paste them over to the right. If somebody falls out of the top 3, delete their entry.Pretty self-explanatory, but I did provide an example in red.

 

[MAC_32]

I just noticed that Grue added the fastest times tab to his race calender. It's time to start getting some times filled in there. Also, I added 8k into there since I've done so many of those lately.

Yeah, basically just go in there and enter your fastest time for each distance raced. If your time is faster than somebody who's already listed, just cut and paste them over to the right. If somebody falls out of the top 3, delete their entry.Pretty self-explanatory, but I did provide an example in red.

I'm not sure if I'm 3rd or 4th in 5K. I know Steve is faster, I think Koby is, and I'm not sure about Hang 10. I wrote it in 3rd for now.

 

[Ned]

Hang - Nice race. You've got too much untapped potential.

2Y2BB - Dude, he's killing it!! You must be one proud pop! Living the dream...

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

Koby - Nice speed, hombre. I agree with Steve. You're close to breaking 5 in race conditions if you pulled that off solo.

Steve - I agree with you on the pacing. I think they could be tightened up some. But damn dude... That's flyin' for still being 'out of shape'. My latest 5K PR went 6:11, 6:16, 6:20. Pretty much exactly what you've described.

Grue - that timed trail run sounds fun as hell. DO IT!

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My up/down training cycle continues. After rushing home from a weekend of camping, I squeezed in my 22 miler yesterday afternoon. Thrilled to get it in, but man that was a sufferfest. I gave serious consideration to calling my wife at mile 18 to come pick me up. Stubborness won out - finshed 22 @ 9:20/150. Miserable HR, but any time I finish a 20+ I'm happy.

That put me at 61 for the week and 232 for the month.

 

[Hang 10]

I just noticed that Grue added the fastest times tab to his race calender. It's time to start getting some times filled in there. Also, I added 8k into there since I've done so many of those lately.

Yeah, basically just go in there and enter your fastest time for each distance raced. If your time is faster than somebody who's already listed, just cut and paste them over to the right. If somebody falls out of the top 3, delete their entry.Pretty self-explanatory, but I did provide an example in red.

 

[Hang 10]

After the race Saturday, I followed it up Sunday with a 10 mile trail run and today a 2 mile little recovery run. Total for miles for Sept. is actually a PR for me (135 miles). I know that's like a week for most of you guys and maybe a weekend for BNB but to me that's progress. I'm kinda excited to see how these extra miles end up translating to my races in the next couple months.

 

[MAC_32]

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

When I turned the final corner, peaked over my shoulder, and no longer saw someone bearing down on me I actually didn't know what to feel. It has been so long since I've been in that spot I didn't know how to react. It did remind me of high school though. In any of the competitive races I was always 2nd...3rd...6th like I have been all summer, but the weekday track and cross country meets vs. just 2 other teams? I was usually good for a couple of W's per year.

I am actually happier about beating one of the best high school female cross country runners in the state than I am the other guy that closed the gap late. Didn't know it til this morning, but she actually caught him at the end coming across in 18:43

 

[Sand]

Speaking of the marathon record, here is a good article on why the sub 2 hour marathon is a long, long way away.

 

[beer 302]

I just noticed that Grue added the fastest times tab to his race calender. It's time to start getting some times filled in there. Also, I added 8k into there since I've done so many of those lately.

I think there is something wrong with the sheet. It won't let me enter any times and keeps telling me to "drop 20lbs fatass"

Ran a 27 minute 5k on the anti-gravity treadmill today. Fastest I've run since I've been hurt. Going to shoot for 25:XX on Wednesday. Now if I cna figure out how to drop 25% of my body weight, I'd be healed!

 

[SteveC702]

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

When I turned the final corner, peaked over my shoulder, and no longer saw someone bearing down on me I actually didn't know what to feel. It has been so long since I've been in that spot I didn't know how to react. It did remind me of high school though. In any of the competitive races I was always 2nd...3rd...6th like I have been all summer, but the weekday track and cross country meets vs. just 2 other teams? I was usually good for a couple of W's per year.

I am actually happier about beating one of the best high school female cross country runners in the state than I am the other guy that closed the gap late. Didn't know it til this morning, but she actually caught him at the end coming across in 18:43

Yeah I didn't mention this in my original race report but as I was catching my breath in the chute a very young looking runner flew through the line about 4-5 seconds behind me.

I looked up the results last night, turned out he was 14. I am guessing he was running a road race on a Saturday during XC season because he's a middle schooler?

Edit - I just did a search, he IS an 8th-grader.

 

[koby925]

An 8th grader running 17:20. Jeez

Reminds me of one of the races I did in PA when I was on my comeback. Race ended on a track and I was somewhere in the low 18s and all of the sudden a kid in basketball shorts and trainers creeps up on me. I may not be running as fast as the old days, I thought, but no way am I letting this little kid beat me. I tried to drop him putting in my sprint spurts and he wouldn't go away. At the end I figured I'd pull a muscle trying to outsprint him and probably fail, anyway, so let him go. I was not happy about that one. Fast forward to now and he ran 4:27 as a frosh and sub 16 in XC this year as a soph.

 

[SFBayDuck]

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

When I turned the final corner, peaked over my shoulder, and no longer saw someone bearing down on me I actually didn't know what to feel. It has been so long since I've been in that spot I didn't know how to react. It did remind me of high school though. In any of the competitive races I was always 2nd...3rd...6th like I have been all summer, but the weekday track and cross country meets vs. just 2 other teams? I was usually good for a couple of W's per year.

I am actually happier about beating one of the best high school female cross country runners in the state than I am the other guy that closed the gap late. Didn't know it til this morning, but she actually caught him at the end coming across in 18:43

Yeah I didn't mention this in my original race report but as I was catching my breath in the chute a very young looking runner flew through the line about 4-5 seconds behind me.

I looked up the results last night, turned out he was 14. I am guessing he was running a road race on a Saturday during XC season because he's a middle schooler?

Edit - I just did a search, he IS an 8th-grader.

Race stalking is taking a strange turn around here.....

 

[SteveC702]

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

When I turned the final corner, peaked over my shoulder, and no longer saw someone bearing down on me I actually didn't know what to feel. It has been so long since I've been in that spot I didn't know how to react. It did remind me of high school though. In any of the competitive races I was always 2nd...3rd...6th like I have been all summer, but the weekday track and cross country meets vs. just 2 other teams? I was usually good for a couple of W's per year.

I am actually happier about beating one of the best high school female cross country runners in the state than I am the other guy that closed the gap late. Didn't know it til this morning, but she actually caught him at the end coming across in 18:43

Yeah I didn't mention this in my original race report but as I was catching my breath in the chute a very young looking runner flew through the line about 4-5 seconds behind me.

I looked up the results last night, turned out he was 14. I am guessing he was running a road race on a Saturday during XC season because he's a middle schooler?

Edit - I just did a search, he IS an 8th-grader.

Race stalking is taking a strange turn around here.....

In my defense: I typed in his name and the first hit is an article about how he tore up the running scene around here last year.

 

[SFBayDuck]

MAC - Super cool on the #1 OA. That's gotta be an amazing feeling.

When I turned the final corner, peaked over my shoulder, and no longer saw someone bearing down on me I actually didn't know what to feel. It has been so long since I've been in that spot I didn't know how to react. It did remind me of high school though. In any of the competitive races I was always 2nd...3rd...6th like I have been all summer, but the weekday track and cross country meets vs. just 2 other teams? I was usually good for a couple of W's per year.

I am actually happier about beating one of the best high school female cross country runners in the state than I am the other guy that closed the gap late. Didn't know it til this morning, but she actually caught him at the end coming across in 18:43

Yeah I didn't mention this in my original race report but as I was catching my breath in the chute a very young looking runner flew through the line about 4-5 seconds behind me.

I looked up the results last night, turned out he was 14. I am guessing he was running a road race on a Saturday during XC season because he's a middle schooler?

Edit - I just did a search, he IS an 8th-grader.

Race stalking is taking a strange turn around here.....

In my defense: I typed in his name and the first hit is an article about how he tore up the running scene around here last year.

Ok.....I'll allow it.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

4+ weeks and still not 100% with the AT. I've been trying real hard not to whine about it in here though! I've officially given up on the half on the 14th. Right now, I'm just hoping to be able to run at all by the 14th.

It's been great reading about the success in here! Keeps motivating me through these f'in heel drops...

 

[Hang 10]

Track work Tuesday:

Fun one today... 4 x 1200 meters with a 400 meter RI

15 minute warmup

1 - 4:33 (2:19 RI)

2 - 4:34 (2:24 RI)

3 - 4:29 (2:19 RI)

4 - 4:29

The cool thing was that my legs actually felt great considering I just raced on Saturday.

Cautiously optimistic of my chances of breaking 40 minutes in the 10K this month.

 

[koby925]

Track work Tuesday:

Fun one today... 4 x 1200 meters with a 400 meter RI

15 minute warmup

1 - 4:33 (2:19 RI)

2 - 4:34 (2:24 RI)

3 - 4:29 (2:19 RI)

4 - 4:29

The cool thing was that my legs actually felt great considering I just raced on Saturday.

Cautiously optimistic of my chances of breaking 40 minutes in the 10K this month.

Nice workout. And congrats on the distance PR. You are certainly on the right path to sub 40.

 

[Hang 10]

Track work Tuesday:

Fun one today... 4 x 1200 meters with a 400 meter RI

15 minute warmup

1 - 4:33 (2:19 RI)

2 - 4:34 (2:24 RI)

3 - 4:29 (2:19 RI)

4 - 4:29

The cool thing was that my legs actually felt great considering I just raced on Saturday.

Cautiously optimistic of my chances of breaking 40 minutes in the 10K this month.

Nice workout. And congrats on the distance PR. You are certainly on the right path to sub 40.

Thanks. Yeah, I feel like I'm right on the door step but my margin for error race day is pretty slim. Weather is going to have to be optimal and this race being at the oceanfront this time of year can produce some serious headwinds.

Also, question for the group... Rank these accomplishments (goals)

18:59 - 5K

39:59 - 10K

1:29:59 - Half Marathon

TIA

 

[Sand]

Also, question for the group... Rank these accomplishments (goals)

18:59 - 5K

39:59 - 10K

1:29:59 - Half Marathon

TIA

5k - #######

10k - Complete #######.

HM - Insufferable #######.

 

[Ned]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

 

[Hang 10]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

I don't think they're mismatched because they're my goals.

I've ran a 5K in 19:11 and a 10K in 40:55 about a month a part, so I think those are both pretty comparable. Now, the half I've come nowhere close to but I think I could possibly make a run at it on the right day.

 

[FUBAR]

Also, question for the group... Rank these accomplishments (goals)
18:59 - 5K

39:59 - 10K

1:29:59 - Half Marathon

TIA

Well, I've done the first two. Never went sub-1:30 in a half though. So I'd say that takes it.

1:29:59 - Half Marathon

39:59 - 10K

18:59 - 5K

 

[FUBAR]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

think so? only falling ~20 seconds per mile while doubling distance is pretty impressive.

 

[Hang 10]

Also, question for the group... Rank these accomplishments (goals)

18:59 - 5K

39:59 - 10K

1:29:59 - Half Marathon

TIA

5k - #######

10k - Complete #######.

HM - Insufferable #######.

See, I think the 5K is probably the hardest too...that's pure hell.

 

[Hang 10]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

think so? only falling ~20 seconds per mile while doubling distance is pretty impressive.

That's basically the same difference between the 18:59 5K and 39:59 10K.

 

[FUBAR]

Ran 12.5 miles yesterday after taking the weekend off (wife was out of town, so had to watch the kids). maintained a pretty steady sub-8 despite more than half (roughly 7.5-8 miles) being on a sandy trail. 7:57 pace overall. Which is pretty much my goal for the last 1/3 of the HIM at the end of this month. Training pretty hard this week, a little easier next, then taper for two.

Sore as #### today though.

 

[gruecd]

See, I think the 5K is probably the hardest too...that's pure hell.

Having run my one sub-19-minute 5K, I will never run another one. They're the absolute worst.

 

[FUBAR]

See, I think the 5K is probably the hardest too...that's pure hell.

Having run my one sub-19-minute 5K, I will never run another one. They're the absolute worst.

It's all relative though. I know a lot of people that do a sub 12 2 miles and could knock out the last 1.1 in under 7. I know less people who run a sub 90 minute half. But, that's because we train for the 2 miler.

 

[Juxtatarot]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

I don't think they're mismatched because they're my goals.

I've ran a 5K in 19:11 and a 10K in 40:55 about a month a part, so I think those are both pretty comparable. Now, the half I've come nowhere close to but I think I could possibly make a run at it on the right day.

For me, they are roughly the same. If you keep this improvement up, you'll soon be passing my PRs (18:41, 39:12, 1:27:46).

 

[Hang 10]

They're kinda mismatched goals, IMO.... but the 39:59 would be the most impressive with the HM a close second. A sub 40:00 10K'er should have no problem breaking a 19:00 5K. I don't see why a sub 1:30 HM'er would have a problem breaking 19:00 in a 5K, but they're very different disciplines; so I'd be less shocked if that HM'er struggled at a 19:00 5K.

So....

10K

HM

5K

I don't think they're mismatched because they're my goals.

I've ran a 5K in 19:11 and a 10K in 40:55 about a month a part, so I think those are both pretty comparable. Now, the half I've come nowhere close to but I think I could possibly make a run at it on the right day.

For me, they are roughly the same. If you keep this improvement up, you'll soon be passing my PRs (18:41, 39:12, 1:27:46).

I don't know about that.

But dude, you are damn close on the race time predictor calculator.

Based on a 18:59 5K

1500 Meters
5:18
1 Mile
5:43
3K
11:03
5 Miles
31:26
10K
39:35
10 Miles
1:05:32
Half Marathon
1:27:20
Marathon
3:02:04

 

[koby925]

For most normal people, I think you may be right. I know a bunch of guys who run in the 1:25-1:28 range that teeter on the edge of sub 19 but are usually north of it. So for normal people, I'd say

5k

10k

Half

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

 

[Hang 10]

For most normal people, I think you may be right. I know a bunch of guys who run in the 1:25-1:28 range that teeter on the edge of sub 19 but are usually north of it. So for normal people, I'd say

5k

10k

Half

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

I think it's 6:26 but whose counting.

But again, the 5K you need to at 6:06. Maybe distances guys could adjust the training and make that happen but I guess that's kinda in a odd place. My training is a bit scattershot. I'm just trying to get faster with no "A" races scheduled. I'm sure I'd have a better chance at one of these goals if I picked one and focused but I'm hoping to just knock em down as I go.

 

[Juxtatarot]

10 Miles
1:05:32

Yikes! I have my first 10 miler October 20 and was hoping for sub 66:30. 65:32 is probably a pipe dream.

 

[MAC_32]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

 

[Hang 10]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

 

[MAC_32]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

If it's 0.2, we're cool.

If it's 1.2, not so much.

 

[Hang 10]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

If it's 0.2, we're cool.

If it's 1.2, not so much.

Well, I'm talking about .2 after the 6 activating the upchuck reflex.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

I always get that "I can see the finish line!" boost.

 

[koby925]

Not to psyche you guys (MAC, H10) out, but I found the 10k very tough...even at a good fitness level. By 2-2.5 miles where you can usually start to smell the finish line of a 5k, you still have 4 miles or just under to go. And it doesn't feel THAT much slower than a 5k. I think it's a funky distance. You can't get into a nice comfortably fast groove like the Half because it is faster than comfortable, but you also can't go too fast or those middle miles will eat you up. Othet than that, it's a piece of cake

 

[gruecd]

If you keep this improvement up, you'll soon be passing my PRs (18:41, 39:12, 1:27:46).

I never realized how similar our PRs are (18:36, 39:44, 1:27:01).

 

[Juxtatarot]

If you keep this improvement up, you'll soon be passing my PRs (18:41, 39:12, 1:27:46).

I never realized how similar our PRs are (18:36, 39:44, 1:27:01).

Oh, I've noticed. (And you've got me by about 5 minutes on the marathon.)

 

[Ned]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

The pain differences are not even in the same continent between the finish of a 10K and a marathon.

Koby is spot on about the feel to a 10K.

 

[Hang 10]

For me personally and for mid distance type guys, I'd say

10k

Half

5k

Running 6.2 miles at 6:28 pace or better is no joke. That seems the most difficult to me personally, especially if I am not at a good fitness level.

Can't comment on the half, but I agree about the 5K vs. 10K. Obviously, my first 10K race isn't for another 12 days, so this is new to me but I've ran that distance with a race mentality before and I gotta say it was pure hell relative to the 5K.

My body has adapted to the rigors of a 5K. It's a very uncomfortable few minutes to the finish, but having done it over and over again knowing what to expect mentally I have overcome that barrier. Usually, anyway. I yacked towards the end of last year's Thanksgiving 5K and I had that gas issue during the 4 miler this summer.

10K? Gonna be a totally different animal. I can visualize the 6:20-6:30 pace for the first 3-4 miles, but what's going to happen physically in the last third of the race? Is my heart rate going to be at similar levels as the last 1/2 mile of a 5K? Are my legs going to be screaming uncle? My body has adapted to running through pain for a few minutes, but > a mile? We'll see...

I've done 3 8K's this summer at a sub-40 pace and it typically doesn't start to suck until after 4 miles. I imagine that last .2 (like the marathon .2) is going to hurt like a mutha####er.

The pain differences are not even in the same continent between the finish of a 10K and a marathon.

I would think you'd have noticed by now that it's all relative to the individual. You run a sub-40 10K and then tell me how the last .2 miles feels.

 

[worrierking]

Again, you guys are speaking a different language than me. Let me chime in to say how much I hate the 10k. 5k and halfs, no problem.

My scheduled marathon is in 12 days and is run in a National Park. I just got this message from the RD:



Update - Government Shut-Down and the Towpath Marathon



By now, you may have heard that Congress has opted to shut our federal government down to what it refers to as "essential employees" only. A consequence of this decision is this: Our Towpath Marathon scheduled to be run on Sunday, October 13th MAY be impacted. I say MAY because the length of this shut-down is by definition unknown.



It is our intention to hold the Towpath Marathon and to do so on the appointed date - October 13th. We are working towards that goal. We will keep you abreast of any developments - either positive or negative. We are also exploring a rescheduled date this year if needed.



We thank you for your understanding of this predicament.

As if I didn't have enough #### to worry about before a marathon! Just in case this thing drags out and they change the date or cancel the race, I am looking at alternative races. I can only run on the weekend of the 12th/13th due to football commitments. Any of you Chicago guys ever run Prairie State in Libertyville? That might be doable if Towpath doesn't go.