Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[RoarinSonoran]

My marathon for this Sunday was canceled.....

That Sucks!!!!!!! I recommend that you run the half, and keep going (= do a second lap). Odds are there will still be some support. At our local half marathon, about a dozen people turned it into a "marathon" by doing this. Why not?

When I did the Rockstar series in 2007, I started hanging out with a few other folks who were going for it as well. For one of them, Dave(??? he's a gruecd-type of freak; running race after race; you might have seen him before, he wears a red shiny-metallic-pompom-type of wig when he runs), a half wasn't enough. He wanted to run five FULLS to earn his Rockstar medals. So, when we got to Virginia Beach, he got to the course a couple of hours early, started from the finish line, ran the course backwards (they were setting up water stations during this time, so he had fluids and portopotties available), and finished at the starting line just in time to start the "real" race. He had to divert his course as he neared the starting line (they wanted the course cleared just before the start), but he got his full. I don't remember him doing this for San Jose, but I'd imagine he did. [ size=XXXL] [/size ]

I'm buried deeply in the STFD category, not having run at all in weeks. Losing my marathon targets for this month and next because of lack of funds due to being out a work has really taken the wind out of my sails. :( On the good news front, I found my Ipod and the charger to my Garmin the other day! However, no Garmin and no Ipod charger. Then it dawned on me, why the hell am I looking through boxes in storage for my Garmin when I had it with me for Fall50, which would have been AFTER things went to storage! It's likely somewhere in the apartment wherever my running shorts are, because I have no idea where they are either. On top of all this, my I-T is acting up! WTF!! I sit around all day job-hunting online, so how could I possibly aggravate the dang thing!! FML You whippersnappers won't get this, but for the old folks, CALGON, TAKE ME AWAY!!!

 

[El Floppo]

My marathon for this Sunday was canceled.....

That Sucks!!!!!!! I recommend that you run the half, and keep going (= do a second lap). Odds are there will still be some support. At our local half marathon, about a dozen people turned it into a "marathon" by doing this. Why not?

When I did the Rockstar series in 2007, I started hanging out with a few other folks who were going for it as well. For one of them, Dave(??? he's a gruecd-type of freak; running race after race; you might have seen him before, he wears a red shiny-metallic-pompom-type of wig when he runs), a half wasn't enough. He wanted to run five FULLS to earn his Rockstar medals. So, when we got to Virginia Beach, he got to the course a couple of hours early, started from the finish line, ran the course backwards (they were setting up water stations during this time, so he had fluids and portopotties available), and finished at the starting line just in time to start the "real" race. He had to divert his course as he neared the starting line (they wanted the course cleared just before the start), but he got his full. I don't remember him doing this for San Jose, but I'd imagine he did. [ size=XXXL] [/size ]

I'm buried deeply in the STFD category, not having run at all in weeks. Losing my marathon targets for this month and next because of lack of funds due to being out a work has really taken the wind out of my sails. :( On the good news front, I found my Ipod and the charger to my Garmin the other day! However, no Garmin and no Ipod charger. Then it dawned on me, why the hell am I looking through boxes in storage for my Garmin when I had it with me for Fall50, which would have been AFTER things went to storage! It's likely somewhere in the apartment wherever my running shorts are, because I have no idea where they are either. On top of all this, my I-T is acting up! WTF!! I sit around all day job-hunting online, so how could I possibly aggravate the dang thing!! FML You whippersnappers won't get this, but for the old folks, CALGON, TAKE ME AWAY!!!

I got it.

Sorry about the whole situation- we're sounding like we're in similar boats these days.

 

[Sand]

Three miles this afternoon to shake the legs out. Had to go shirtless for the last half-mile with the wind at my back! Have no idea what to expect at the Half tomorrow. Ran at a perceived "easy" effort this afternoon, and ended up averaging 7:38 pace, so who knows?? Last year 1:33:04 (7:06 pace) won the Clydesdale division. It's in my wheelhouse. But then again, I'm not optimally trained. Hmmm....

Drawing on the spectre of Wheelhouse is bad mojo, man.

 

[Sand]

Lent is over so the only running I did today was to get another beer.

I will run tomorrow

Drinking during the day does not mean you can't get a run in later. You do have to be careful as to not get a R.W.I., but drinking is not a viable excuse.

Sorry, prosopis, but I have to agree with the aptly-named Mr. Liquors. As I posted on Saturday, I was out drinking from basically 3 PM until 2 AM on Friday night/Saturday morning, got to bed around 3:30, and got up three hours later to run a half marathon. As Rob and Big would say, "Do work, son!"

Damn I have been hitting the YMCA. It has been so frigging windy here I was not running. I dont care what you guys say I am not running in 40 mph wind gusts and getting sandblasted. Anyway I hit the treadmills at the Y. Definatelly different then running outside. I am still getting used to it. Thursday I went to the desk there and asked if someone could show me how the circuit training things worked. Of course they find a hot young girl to show me. She is setting the weights up and is a "personal trainer". I have never done anything like that and I did not want to look bad in front of her so I did what I had to do. Now I can hardly walk.

I felt really old. I finally asked her how old she was and she was 22. I am old enough to be her father

I have another appt there on Tuesday to be set up on some kind of automatic circuit training stuff. I think they run you through it and then give you a number. You put the number in on subsequent visits and it remembers what your settings were prviously? I think?

I will find out Tuesday.

Also thimking about hitting the pool for more cardio. Anyone here have rec on a swimming website? I know how to swim but I doubt it is close to any kind of form. Proper or improper.

Check out
. Pretty decent vid - the trainer seems to know his stuff.He has other good videos on swimming (and all other things tri) as well.

 

[El Floppo]

A couple of very, very easy miles with a gb. Just trying to put a couple in so my longer run tomorrow won't be on fresh legs.

 

[Sand]

I thought I was destined for another trainer session due to the weather here, but the front coming in broke up right before it got to us and at 2 the sun blew a hole through the clouds. Woohoo! Grabbed my mountain bike and hit the park. Sadly it was flea market day there, so I did a lot of slow passing of people and dogs and such, but still got a good ride in. Rode 14 miles on the trails in 1:20 (10.5mph avg.). Not too fast, even for a MTB trail, but considering the number of times I slowed to a crawl due to pedestrians and some pretty big mud holes not too bad.

2996 feet of total climbing, as reported by my Garmin - average uphill grade 16.9%. Lots of climbing and pretty tough climbing, at that. My legs are toast. I need to work more on hill climbs as my HR spikes to max during those climbs. Sometime this year I will conquer that loop without resorting to my granny gear - sure as heck wasn't today, though. Also need to up the core work - I can certainly feel the effects in my back.

As a bonus my weight afterward was 177, a place I haven't been in 15 years.

All in all a good day.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Anyone listen to a radio station with perhaps a morning show that has a psychic on now and then? Maybe they can find my Garmin.

 

[Sand]

Anyone listen to a radio station with perhaps a morning show that has a psychic on now and then? Maybe they can find my Garmin.

That sucks. It is the best toy ever - data heaven.

 

[prosopis]

Lent is over so the only running I did today was to get another beer.

I will run tomorrow

Drinking during the day does not mean you can't get a run in later. You do have to be careful as to not get a R.W.I., but drinking is not a viable excuse.

Sorry, prosopis, but I have to agree with the aptly-named Mr. Liquors. As I posted on Saturday, I was out drinking from basically 3 PM until 2 AM on Friday night/Saturday morning, got to bed around 3:30, and got up three hours later to run a half marathon. As Rob and Big would say, "Do work, son!"

Damn I have been hitting the YMCA. It has been so frigging windy here I was not running. I dont care what you guys say I am not running in 40 mph wind gusts and getting sandblasted. Anyway I hit the treadmills at the Y. Definatelly different then running outside. I am still getting used to it. Thursday I went to the desk there and asked if someone could show me how the circuit training things worked. Of course they find a hot young girl to show me. She is setting the weights up and is a "personal trainer". I have never done anything like that and I did not want to look bad in front of her so I did what I had to do. Now I can hardly walk.

I felt really old. I finally asked her how old she was and she was 22. I am old enough to be her father

I have another appt there on Tuesday to be set up on some kind of automatic circuit training stuff. I think they run you through it and then give you a number. You put the number in on subsequent visits and it remembers what your settings were prviously? I think?

I will find out Tuesday.

Also thimking about hitting the pool for more cardio. Anyone here have rec on a swimming website? I know how to swim but I doubt it is close to any kind of form. Proper or improper.

Check out

Maybe I dont know how to swim Thanks for the link. That will help.

 

[tri-man 47]

I felt really old. I finally asked her how old she was and she was 22. I am old enough to be her father sugar-daddy.

Fixed.

Also thinking about hitting the pool for more cardio. Anyone here have rec on a swimming website? I know how to swim but I doubt it is close to any kind of form. Proper or improper.

Oh, several of us - OK, me, for sure - would be happy to provide some guidance. Sand has a serious background in swimming, so that's a great starting point. I'll PM you some thoughts so as not to incur you-know-who's wrath for another swim digression. ---------

Took Friday off, so between Friday and Saturday ...double my pleasure, double my fun?

Friday morning: hour swim

Friday afternoon: two hour bike (outdoors, finally)

Saturday morning hour swim

Saturday afternoon: one hour bike (after a few hours of yardwork)

Details: Friday swim was a mix of 20 laps alternating hard 25/easy 25, sandwiched between two strong 500 yard sets (first at 9:35; last at 9:55 - very solid times for me at less than 60 sec/lap). Saturday featured a straight 40 laps (2,000 yards) at 40:25, which was still nice after a very hard Friday. Friday bike was at the forest preserve I mentioned. It has a 7.7 mile loop, which is my best 'time trial' route. I did four loops (plus warm-up/cool down) and timed the first and third. They were easily 30 seconds faster than ever before (and a good minute+ better than most loops), which translates into a good 1/2-mile per hour. Saturday was pretty much slugging out some miles on tired legs.

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

 

[El Floppo]

Friday bike was at the forest preserve I mentioned. It has a 7.7 mile loop, which is my best 'time trial' route. I did four loops (plus warm-up/cool down) and timed the first and third. They were easily 30 seconds faster than ever before (and a good minute+ better than most loops), which translates into a good 1/2-mile per hour. Saturday was pretty much slugging out some miles on tired legs.

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

Nice! Especially so early in the season... fingers crossed for a great 1/2 IM time- you're doing that same 1/2 again, right?Even my wife mentioned dusting the bike off (it'll be more like "excavate" the bike out from the patio) so that Floppo Jr sees it and me in action. lol- I bought him the coolest little push-bike when he was born since I had no clue what the hell to do with a baby... he might just be ready for it this summer as a two year old (he's a late bloomer physically), and really would be good for him to see pops on his on own bike. Plus, all you guys talking about it is lighting the fire under my fat ### to get back in the saddle.

 

[El Floppo]

I did my own "distance" run on a little tired legs.

7m in 1:03. Did a loop into Brooklyn over the Williamsburgh Bridge and back over the Brooklyn Bridge that I hadn't done since the old marathon days (plus got the "hill" workout on the bridges)... made me feel like I was getting back into the swing of things.

 

[Otis]

i will be standing on the corner of Hickory Hill and Gross, fully nude, waving to the marathoners

 

[Sand]

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, if you will step this way is the perfect example of a non sequitur."

 

[SFBayDuck]

Damn that was a tough half marathon! 2:02:46, so about 5:00 slower than I ran the SF 1/2 last July. I think it was a combo of training for a full - my tempo runs were 9:30-10:00 miles - and the course itself, which was 1/2 road and 1/2 trail. Not so much that they were huge hills, but the second 1/2 was 6 miles on trail of rolling 100'+ elevation gains and losses, including a 170' gain at mile 7 that my heart rate never did recover from. When I did SF, I stayed under 160 bpm for most of the first 10 miles, while today I was above 170 pretty much from that hill on. At around mile 10 I got light headed and my legs started feeling tingly, that's the first time that's happened on a run. I slowed to a walk for about 30 seconds to get the HR back down, and then picked it back up again. Even managed an 8:43 mile from 12-13, which was my fastest mile split (helped that it was downhill, of course!).

I know one thing - I've never run harder for that long, that's for sure. So while a little bummed I didn't hit 2 hours, I'm pretty happy with the effort I put out today. I left it all on the course, that's for sure.

Looking back, I think I could have finished a full marathon today, as I would've kept my pace and HR down earlier on, probably even walking the hills, but it would've been a long, slow slog. I'll find one to register for in the next couple months, and am confident I'll be even better prepared that I was today. More hill work. More tempo/speed stuff. And more long runs.

 

[El Floppo]

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, if you will step this way is the perfect example of a non sequitur."

 

[El Floppo]

Damn that was a tough half marathon! 2:02:46, so about 5:00 slower than I ran the SF 1/2 last July. I think it was a combo of training for a full - my tempo runs were 9:30-10:00 miles - and the course itself, which was 1/2 road and 1/2 trail. Not so much that they were huge hills, but the second 1/2 was 6 miles on trail of rolling 100'+ elevation gains and losses, including a 170' gain at mile 7 that my heart rate never did recover from. When I did SF, I stayed under 160 bpm for most of the first 10 miles, while today I was above 170 pretty much from that hill on. At around mile 10 I got light headed and my legs started feeling tingly, that's the first time that's happened on a run. I slowed to a walk for about 30 seconds to get the HR back down, and then picked it back up again. Even managed an 8:43 mile from 12-13, which was my fastest mile split (helped that it was downhill, of course!).I know one thing - I've never run harder for that long, that's for sure. So while a little bummed I didn't hit 2 hours, I'm pretty happy with the effort I put out today. I left it all on the course, that's for sure.Looking back, I think I could have finished a full marathon today, as I would've kept my pace and HR down earlier on, probably even walking the hills, but it would've been a long, slow slog. I'll find one to register for in the next couple months, and am confident I'll be even better prepared that I was today. More hill work. More tempo/speed stuff. And more long runs.

Nice job! Those rolling hills sound tough... maybe a combo of pumping the HR going up, and going a little too fast on the downhill to recover? Whatever... still damn fine work, and another good race in the books for you.And don't beat yourself up on this- you're totally right... you were training for a marathon, not a 1/2, so the speedwork had to be different.But I'll second hills/speed/core for your upcoming training. Any ideas about the light-headed thing? Just an HR issue? Nutrition? Was your pre/during the race nutrition on point?

 

[El Floppo]

Just weighed myself for the first time in the latest comeback... sub two-bucks! 198 (and that included my post run sammy). I'm about 15lbs over my IM weight- but much lighter than I was expecting (figured I had another 10 on me, easy).

 

[SFBayDuck]

Nice job! Those rolling hills sound tough... maybe a combo of pumping the HR going up, and going a little too fast on the downhill to recover? Whatever... still damn fine work, and another good race in the books for you.And don't beat yourself up on this- you're totally right... you were training for a marathon, not a 1/2, so the speedwork had to be different.But I'll second hills/speed/core for your upcoming training. Any ideas about the light-headed thing? Just an HR issue? Nutrition? Was your pre/during the race nutrition on point?

I think it was primarily a HR thing, I was pushing 180 on the uphills in the last few miles. My nutrition was fine, same thing as I always do - breakfast and coffee 90 minutes before, GU 15 minutes before the race, one at 50 minutes, and one at 90 minutes. It could be dehydration related, though. I know I was hydrated going in, as I woke up to pee twice last night - and I never wake up to pee. But I decided not to carry my water bottle, which I always have on pretty much any run over 3-4 miles, figuring I'd rely on the aid stations. But it was pretty warm out (it'll be 80+ here in Marin today, and was probably 65-70 for the duration of the run), and that was the longest stretch between aid stations as it was 3-4 miles of trails without crossing the road. So maybe a combo of too hard, without enough H2O.

Just weighed myself for the first time in the latest comeback... sub two-bucks! 198 (and that included my post run sammy). I'm about 15lbs over my IM weight- but much lighter than I was expecting (figured I had another 10 on me, easy).

Nice! I weighed in at 194 this morning (I'm just under 6'), and I know I should be sub-185 for a full. Having maxed out at 228 five years ago (baby weight), and settling in at 215-218 for most of the last 10 years, I'm happy with my progress, but am still a fat guy running.

 

[El Floppo]

Nice job! Those rolling hills sound tough... maybe a combo of pumping the HR going up, and going a little too fast on the downhill to recover? Whatever... still damn fine work, and another good race in the books for you.And don't beat yourself up on this- you're totally right... you were training for a marathon, not a 1/2, so the speedwork had to be different.But I'll second hills/speed/core for your upcoming training. Any ideas about the light-headed thing? Just an HR issue? Nutrition? Was your pre/during the race nutrition on point?

I think it was primarily a HR thing, I was pushing 180 on the uphills in the last few miles. My nutrition was fine, same thing as I always do - breakfast and coffee 90 minutes before, GU 15 minutes before the race, one at 50 minutes, and one at 90 minutes. It could be dehydration related, though. I know I was hydrated going in, as I woke up to pee twice last night - and I never wake up to pee. But I decided not to carry my water bottle, which I always have on pretty much any run over 3-4 miles, figuring I'd rely on the aid stations. But it was pretty warm out (it'll be 80+ here in Marin today, and was probably 65-70 for the duration of the run), and that was the longest stretch between aid stations as it was 3-4 miles of trails without crossing the road. So maybe a combo of too hard, without enough H2O.

Just weighed myself for the first time in the latest comeback... sub two-bucks! 198 (and that included my post run sammy). I'm about 15lbs over my IM weight- but much lighter than I was expecting (figured I had another 10 on me, easy).

Nice! I weighed in at 194 this morning (I'm just under 6'), and I know I should be sub-185 for a full. Having maxed out at 228 five years ago (baby weight), and settling in at 215-218 for most of the last 10 years, I'm happy with my progress, but am still a fat guy running.

Baby-weight... lol... me too. I think I was pushing 210 before all of this (I also changed my diet so that it wasn't all caramel and whipped-cream)... oh- also right at 6' (+or- delta due to posture).Could the peeing have been nerves? I pee like an excited (200lb) 5yo girl on nights before and days of races.Hey- have you ever, or are you going to this year, done the Dipsea?

 

[SFBayDuck]

Baby-weight... lol... me too. I think I was pushing 210 before all of this (I also changed my diet so that it wasn't all caramel and whipped-cream)... oh- also right at 6' (+or- delta due to posture).Could the peeing have been nerves? I pee like an excited (200lb) 5yo girl on nights before and days of races.Hey- have you ever, or are you going to this year, done the Dipsea?

Baby weight sucked - my wife was sick for 7 months, couldn't even hold down ice chips (she had to get IV's regularly for dehydration), and yet she still had cravings. So I'd go buy a half dozen donuts or some random pint of ice cream, and she'd eat one bite and start throwing up. Couldn't let that food go to waste!I don't think it was nerves, I've never really had that problem. I really focused on hydrating the last couple of days, and was drinking G2 (low-cal Gatorade) and water all day yesterday, so I think I did pre-race right. But probably should've carried sports drink since I'm used to having that available.I would love to do the Dipsea sometime, but it's a really tough lottery system to get in. One of these days I'll go run the course just so I can say I've done that, and if I can get better on hills I may start trying to enter next year.

 

[Sand]

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, if you will step this way is the perfect example of a non sequitur."

Just a general commentary that there is no such thing as an easy 13 miles.(yeah, yeah, I know - HTFU).

 

[El Floppo]

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, if you will step this way is the perfect example of a non sequitur."

Just a general commentary that there is no such thing as an easy 13 miles.(yeah, yeah, I know - HTFU).

This is the FFA... they're all easy miles for us.But yeah- I agree and love that some of the guys superstars in this thread can see a 13 miler as "easy".

 

[El Floppo]

Baby-weight... lol... me too. I think I was pushing 210 before all of this (I also changed my diet so that it wasn't all caramel and whipped-cream)... oh- also right at 6' (+or- delta due to posture).Could the peeing have been nerves? I pee like an excited (200lb) 5yo girl on nights before and days of races.Hey- have you ever, or are you going to this year, done the Dipsea?

Baby weight sucked - my wife was sick for 7 months, couldn't even hold down ice chips (she had to get IV's regularly for dehydration), and yet she still had cravings. So I'd go buy a half dozen donuts or some random pint of ice cream, and she'd eat one bite and start throwing up. Couldn't let that food go to waste!I don't think it was nerves, I've never really had that problem. I really focused on hydrating the last couple of days, and was drinking G2 (low-cal Gatorade) and water all day yesterday, so I think I did pre-race right. But probably should've carried sports drink since I'm used to having that available.I would love to do the Dipsea sometime, but it's a really tough lottery system to get in. One of these days I'll go run the course just so I can say I've done that, and if I can get better on hills I may start trying to enter next year.

I just go to the Dipsea instead and get a Lumberjack every time I'm in town .... yeah... baby-weight

 

[gruecd]

Three miles this afternoon to shake the legs out. Had to go shirtless for the last half-mile with the wind at my back! Have no idea what to expect at the Half tomorrow. Ran at a perceived "easy" effort this afternoon, and ended up averaging 7:38 pace, so who knows?? Last year 1:33:04 (7:06 pace) won the Clydesdale division. It's in my wheelhouse. But then again, I'm not optimally trained. Hmmm....

I'm a bad person for deep-down hoping that our shared 1/2 PR stays between us ... as much as I wish you speed and happy running today.

Not to worry, GB, the PR is safe. Considering the lack of any real training lately, I really just wanted to take it easy the first half of the race and then go from there. And fortunately, it didn't work out that way. Ignored the game plan and started too fast, and while the first few miles (7:02, 7:19, 7:21, 7:23) felt pretty easy, I'm just not at the point right now where I can hold that kind of pace for 13 miles. It didn't help that it was 63° and sunny, either, and I'm just not acclimated to running in the heat yet. Anyway, I backed off the pace, gutted out the rest of the race, and finished in 1:39 (although I did manage to clock 7:36 for the last mile). Not bad, I guess, for two weeks post-injury.

I've got four more weeks to get ready for Green Bay, where I should definitely be able to go sub 1:35, and where I can hopefully challenge for a new PR (weather permitting). I'll take it easy for three weeks afterwards and then start an 18-week intense training program for Chicago on June 8.

 

[gruecd]

This is the FFA... they're all easy miles for us.

But yeah- I agree and love that some of the guys superstars in this thread can see a 13 miler as "easy".

You guys are funny.

 

[gruecd]

I know one thing - I've never run harder for that long, that's for sure. So while a little bummed I didn't hit 2 hours, I'm pretty happy with the effort I put out today. I left it all on the course, that's for sure.

That's all you can ask. Great race! By the way, anybody else gonna be glued to the Universal Sports website tomorrow morning to watch the live webcast of the Boston Marathon?? I doubt that Ryan Hall will beat Cheruiyot (who's trying to win his fifth Boston Marathon ), but I think Kara Goucher has a decent chance to win it for the women. Weather for the race looks perfect -- overcast skies and 49 degrees.

 

[El Floppo]

Three miles this afternoon to shake the legs out. Had to go shirtless for the last half-mile with the wind at my back! Have no idea what to expect at the Half tomorrow. Ran at a perceived "easy" effort this afternoon, and ended up averaging 7:38 pace, so who knows?? Last year 1:33:04 (7:06 pace) won the Clydesdale division. It's in my wheelhouse. But then again, I'm not optimally trained. Hmmm....

I'm a bad person for deep-down hoping that our shared 1/2 PR stays between us ... as much as I wish you speed and happy running today.

Not to worry, GB, the PR is safe. Considering the lack of any real training lately, I really just wanted to take it easy the first half of the race and then go from there. And fortunately, it didn't work out that way. Ignored the game plan and started too fast, and while the first few miles (7:02, 7:19, 7:21, 7:23) felt pretty easy, I'm just not at the point right now where I can hold that kind of pace for 13 miles. It didn't help that it was 63° and sunny, either, and I'm just not acclimated to running in the heat yet. Anyway, I backed off the pace, gutted out the rest of the race, and finished in 1:39 (although I did manage to clock 7:36 for the last mile). Not bad, I guess, for two weeks post-injury.

I've got four more weeks to get ready for Green Bay, where I should definitely be able to go sub 1:35, and where I can hopefully challenge for a new PR (weather permitting). I'll take it easy for three weeks afterwards and then start an 18-week intense training program for Chicago on June 8.

..... oh... I mean... better luck next time?Still sounds like a great race for you all things considered over the last month+. And isn't it funny- no matter how many times I've raced or told myself/people about pacing the first few miles, I dont think I've done a SINGLE race where I didn't go out too fast at the beginning (other than my IM where my foot hurt so much I think I was barely cracking 20min miles until the painkillers kicked in).

 

[gruecd]

Just got back from an easy 60-minute recovery run. Turned on the TV, and it occurred to me that God must've had the Miss USA contest in mind when He invested HDTV.

 

[mr. furley]

i will be standing on the corner of Hickory Hill and Gross, fully nude, waving to the marathoners

you and Righetti sign up!?

 

[gruecd]

i will be standing on the corner of Hickory Hill and Gross, fully nude, waving to the marathoners

you and Righetti sign up!?

Hey, Furley, only runners get to post in here!

 

[tri-man 47]

OK, sorry - an easy paced 13 miles. (Not sure that sounds much better.) It was actually a good run. Weather was low 50's with a steady, light rain throughout and some NE wind (which I got on the way back). I dressed too lightly, so I was pretty chilled out there, but I think the rain kept me focused. And I ran negative splits, taking off over 2 minutes on the return leg. That wraps up about nine hours of training this week (GB the empty nest).

SFDuck, gruecd - good efforts, guys! Every race takes on its own dynamics. We take what we can for the day, live and learn, and move on to the next challenge. Way to go!

 

[bentley]

Rode the bike today for about 45 minutes. Felt good. It was definitely better than Sunday's ride. It's kinda fun learning a whole new discipline.

 

[gruecd]

We take what we can for the day, live and learn, and move on to the next challenge. Way to go!

LOVE the quote. Great training week!!! Had a bright idea; there are still 55 spots available for the half marathon in Green Bay. You should come up and run!!!

 

[prosopis]

I felt really old. I finally asked her how old she was and she was 22. I am old enough to be her father sugar-daddy.

Fixed.

Also thinking about hitting the pool for more cardio. Anyone here have rec on a swimming website? I know how to swim but I doubt it is close to any kind of form. Proper or improper.

Oh, several of us - OK, me, for sure - would be happy to provide some guidance. Sand has a serious background in swimming, so that's a great starting point. I'll PM you some thoughts so as not to incur you-know-who's wrath for another swim digression. ---------

Took Friday off, so between Friday and Saturday ...double my pleasure, double my fun?

Friday morning: hour swim

Friday afternoon: two hour bike (outdoors, finally)

Saturday morning hour swim

Saturday afternoon: one hour bike (after a few hours of yardwork)

Details: Friday swim was a mix of 20 laps alternating hard 25/easy 25, sandwiched between two strong 500 yard sets (first at 9:35; last at 9:55 - very solid times for me at less than 60 sec/lap). Saturday featured a straight 40 laps (2,000 yards) at 40:25, which was still nice after a very hard Friday. Friday bike was at the forest preserve I mentioned. It has a 7.7 mile loop, which is my best 'time trial' route. I did four loops (plus warm-up/cool down) and timed the first and third. They were easily 30 seconds faster than ever before (and a good minute+ better than most loops), which translates into a good 1/2-mile per hour. Saturday was pretty much slugging out some miles on tired legs.

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

Waiting on the pm.I am in trouble! Married for twelve years and I just now get the "because you are drinking speech" from the wife.

WTF? I am who you thought I was. Twelve years in and I get this speech? I will fix the toilet Tuesady!!!

 

[prosopis]

I felt really old. I finally asked her how old she was and she was 22. I am old enough to be her father sugar-daddy.

Fixed.

Also thinking about hitting the pool for more cardio. Anyone here have rec on a swimming website? I know how to swim but I doubt it is close to any kind of form. Proper or improper.

Oh, several of us - OK, me, for sure - would be happy to provide some guidance. Sand has a serious background in swimming, so that's a great starting point. I'll PM you some thoughts so as not to incur you-know-who's wrath for another swim digression. ---------

Took Friday off, so between Friday and Saturday ...double my pleasure, double my fun?

Friday morning: hour swim

Friday afternoon: two hour bike (outdoors, finally)

Saturday morning hour swim

Saturday afternoon: one hour bike (after a few hours of yardwork)

Details: Friday swim was a mix of 20 laps alternating hard 25/easy 25, sandwiched between two strong 500 yard sets (first at 9:35; last at 9:55 - very solid times for me at less than 60 sec/lap). Saturday featured a straight 40 laps (2,000 yards) at 40:25, which was still nice after a very hard Friday. Friday bike was at the forest preserve I mentioned. It has a 7.7 mile loop, which is my best 'time trial' route. I did four loops (plus warm-up/cool down) and timed the first and third. They were easily 30 seconds faster than ever before (and a good minute+ better than most loops), which translates into a good 1/2-mile per hour. Saturday was pretty much slugging out some miles on tired legs.

Coming up today is an easy, distance run of, hopefully, about 13 miles.

Waiting on the pm.I am in trouble! Married for twelve years and I just now get the "because you are drinking speech" from the wife.

WTF? I am who you thought I was. Twelve years in and I get this speech? I will fix the toilet Tuesady!!!

I am pist!!!!!!!!I am gonna try to split her in half tonight and make her eyes roll up into the back of her head.

Game on !!!!!!

 

[gruecd]

I am pist!!!!!!!!I am gonna try to split her in half tonight and make her eyes roll up into the back of her head. Game on !!!!!!

OK.......

 

[tri-man 47]

proso'pist' - back off the throttle, and/or bottle, a bit there, scooter! lol Sounds like your wife is interrupting a good night. If you ease up your drinking, you shouldn't be doing it for her, you should be doing it for us ...your training buddies. I'll get you the PM. liquors and floppo know their swimming, too, and they seem to remember/find prior info and videos better than me, so they might offer advice also. But I still want to read a Sand 101 swim primer.

gruecd - ah, I've got a church commitment on the 17th, so I can't make Green Bay. Thanks for the offer.

floppo - I'm planning on a new 1/2-Ironman this year (not the one from '06 and '07). It's in Effingham, IL (central IL) on June 21, which allows my daughter to join me before she heads to Australia in early July for a semester abroad. It's a very small race - maybe 300-400 people, which I like. I am hoping to take 10-15 minutes off of my previous times (sub 6:00).

 

[gruecd]

Yep, I'm definitely getting nothing done at work today. I've got the computer set to Universal Sports to watch Boston, and I'm also set up to track five of my friends on the marathon website.

Kara Goucher is off and running!

 

[tri-man 47]

Yep, I'm definitely getting nothing done at work today. I've got the computer set to Universal Sports to watch Boston, and I'm also set up to track five of my friends on the marathon website.

I want to follow a friend as well. Do you do that via Universal Sports or the BAA website?

 

[gruecd]

Sheesh, Ryan Hall's stride looks absolutely effortless out there.

 

[gruecd]

Yep, I'm definitely getting nothing done at work today. I've got the computer set to Universal Sports to watch Boston, and I'm also set up to track five of my friends on the marathon website.

I want to follow a friend as well. Do you do that via Universal Sports or the BAA website?

The BAA website.

 

[Sand]

Sheesh, Ryan Hall's stride looks absolutely effortless out there.

Ran the second mile in 4:34. That's inhuman.

 

[gruecd]

Sheesh, Ryan Hall's stride looks absolutely effortless out there.

Ran the second mile in 4:34. That's inhuman.

Like the commentator said, that's a good time for a D-3 runner for one mile.

 

[Keggers]

i will be standing on the corner of Hickory Hill and Gross, fully nude, waving to the marathoners

I just threw up a little bit....How about the 1/2 marathoners...will you be waving at us too?

 

[Keggers]

Three miles this afternoon to shake the legs out. Had to go shirtless for the last half-mile with the wind at my back! Have no idea what to expect at the Half tomorrow. Ran at a perceived "easy" effort this afternoon, and ended up averaging 7:38 pace, so who knows?? Last year 1:33:04 (7:06 pace) won the Clydesdale division. It's in my wheelhouse. But then again, I'm not optimally trained. Hmmm....

I'm a bad person for deep-down hoping that our shared 1/2 PR stays between us ... as much as I wish you speed and happy running today.

Not to worry, GB, the PR is safe. Considering the lack of any real training lately, I really just wanted to take it easy the first half of the race and then go from there. And fortunately, it didn't work out that way. Ignored the game plan and started too fast, and while the first few miles (7:02, 7:19, 7:21, 7:23) felt pretty easy, I'm just not at the point right now where I can hold that kind of pace for 13 miles. It didn't help that it was 63° and sunny, either, and I'm just not acclimated to running in the heat yet. Anyway, I backed off the pace, gutted out the rest of the race, and finished in 1:39 (although I did manage to clock 7:36 for the last mile). Not bad, I guess, for two weeks post-injury.

I've got four more weeks to get ready for Green Bay, where I should definitely be able to go sub 1:35, and where I can hopefully challenge for a new PR (weather permitting). I'll take it easy for three weeks afterwards and then start an 18-week intense training program for Chicago on June 8.

Good job! The weather was amazing! So who in here is doing the Cellcom Green Bay Marathon/1/2 marathon? Me and Gruecd...naked Furley doing the cheerleading...anyone else?

 

[gruecd]

OK, I'm getting goosebumps hearing all the cheering and thinking back to last year. Damn. I can't wait to get back there. Makes me wanna go do a hard workout right now!

 

[El Floppo]

Forgot to lube the nips for yesterday's run... :tendermercies:

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Ran the second mile in 4:34. That's inhuman.

26.2 of those = 1:59:44That's my ultimate goal, to run the first ever sub-2hour marathon. Of course, I'll need to learn how to run twice as fast first.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

i will be standing on the corner of Hickory Hill and Gross, fully nude, waving to the marathoners

I just threw up a little bit....How about the 1/2 marathoners...will you be waving at us too?

He'll be half-nude in that case.